we're coming on the air with the final countdown in the biggest deal election day of the year so far. pennsylvania now in the last hours of voting in primaries, including a race that could determine the balance of power

in the senate. all these candidates talking with voters and somebody not even on the ballot loom over one race. what will today's election tell us about donald trump's influence and the future of both parties? also this thundershower you have president biden back at the white house after speaking in buffalo, where he said democracy's in danger after that deadly racist attack. and he's calling out people who spread and profit off the so-called great replaisment theory. we've got a context check on where that theory came from, and we're live in buffalo and on the hill with congress setting up a showdown over domestic terrorism. this just coming in from michigan on the state's abortion law there and what would happen in roe vs. wade is overturned. we're going to tell you what it says and what happens next from here. i'm hallie jackson from washington. i want to bring in our team who's following that election in pennsylvania, because voters are voting. senior political editor mark murray, staff writer for the philadelphia enquirer julia

caruso, and vaughn hilliard. vaughn, you are on the ground. what's it like? what are you seeing? >> reporter: we chose your hometown because arguably in the election it's going to tell us a lot. that is why when we were asking voters here about kathy barnette it would give us insight into just how potent and just how much she'd be able to make inroads in these types of suburbs here. when we're going to be looking at the election results tonight, david mccormick and mehmet oz, they were the two republican who were the longtime front-runners over the last few months in the suburbs, the more affluent, well-off suburbs were areas where they were relying on their vote share. suddenly you have kathy barnette come into the equation and become the key player here. that is why when we were talking to voters over the last hours, my question to them was, did you ultimately cast your ballot for kathy barnette? the number of folks we talk to

consistently telling us they did it, picked oz or mccormick, and i want to let you hear, because donald trump is the other player in all of this, and you'll hear from some of the folks the extent to which he was an influential player in who they voted for. >> did trump's endorsement mean anything? >> a little bit, a little bit, but that wasn't any overall decision making. >> i think it did. >> i guess it would probably be the sole purpose of why i went with him. >> i love donald trump. but i mean, he doesn't rule my life. you know, i have my own mind, make up my own mind. >> i'm not a trumper. i mean, i like trump, i voted for him, but i'm not a trumper. >> reporter: if mehmet oz pulls off this win, donald trump will be very much a key part of, that hallie. but the other component here that we heard from folks is the fact that they have been aware of who he is. some folks a decade, almost two decades, from his tv show here. but again, that question, is

when you're looking out in the rural parts, would kathy barnette make up some of the ground she may not be able to siphon off? can she pull off a greater share in the rural areas to ultimately contend here? this race? >> julia, you look at kathy barnette, doug mastriano, leading gubernatorial candidates, both far right candidates, does this in some ways represent to you any kind of a sea change in the way we should bying this about pennsylvania primary politics? in a state where typically folks that have been successful straddled the middle more? >> yeah, i think it very well may. i think what happens with kathy barnette is going to be part of that. we have been talking a lot about her surge, but what happens here on election day will be very telling. and you know, i don't think you can ignore that in both races you have a lot of -- you have several candidates. and when you have, you know,

three or four leading candidates in a state without a runoff, a candidate who has a really loyal kind of maga base can prevail. >> mark, you heard vaughn talking about dr. oz, right? name recognition, if you will, around the state. the endorsement from former president donald trump. vaughn, it was interesting to hear some of the voters talked to about what the power of the trump endorsement means to them. mark, how do you read and it, what other data do you have coming in today about how this is going? i will say, there's still a lot of vote left out there, right, as of when the polls opened this morning. >> absolutely, hallie. pennsylvania traditionally is not an early vote state, in fact it's almost all day of, particularly on the republican side, so there was an opportunity over the last couple of weeks for an mehmet oz or dave mccormick to bank in votes.

this is all going to be about late breakers. as for oz and the trump endorsement, this data shows this is still donald trump's republican party. 56% of republican voter said trump should remain the leader of the republican party. we also crunched the numbers looking at the ads. 1 in 3 of all pennsylvania republican senate ads ended up mentioning trump and his name, so all the candidates are jockeying for his support. but if oz does end up losing it would mean oz was an imperfect vessel that trump bet on, of all these candidates who are trying to run with maga credentials. he bet on the wrong person, and more often than not, trump bet on the right person. the republican party is what it is, but i wouldn't read too much into it if oz end up losing. this means the republican party

isn't trump's party, because the data tells us it is. >> i wonder how it's a test of the traditional campaign infrastructure, and by that i mean spending big money on ads. oz and david mccormick spent ten of millions of dollars on ad guys. kathy barnette spent a fraction of that. on the traditional advertising, voter lists, the traditional things candidates do, you have seen all three campaigns and their ground game. talk to me about that piece of it. >> right, there's a lot of former trump hands who are helping mehmet oz's campaign, and jeff rowe, the mastermind of ted cruz's political operations is a part of this mccormick campaign here. these folks understood the million of dollars that it would require to not only knock doors, make phone calls, but there's these likely voter contact lists that are months in the making here. ultimately in these final days,

as mark said, this state overwhelmingly votes the day of. they are using those resources to contact those very voters and get them out to the poles. kathy barnette, that operation didn't exist. yes, she worked hard the last 13 months going from county gop events to churches herself. but i was talking about a national adviser that came in literally four days ago, hallie, and said none of that was in place. there was no phone contact list to reach out to. so they have some volunteers who are trying to get out through neighborhoods at the same time that doesn't exist. but if kathy barnette pulls it off, it will speak to, hallie, and the west virginia we'll be having tomorrow is just how strong the gop group is that through social media alone they were able to turn out the vote for kathy barnette. >> let's not forget the stakes of this race here, particularly about the senate race on the republican side, but also the democratic side. julia, as you well know, as all

three of you know, this is a race that could determine the balance of power in the senate. it is one of, if not the most closely watched race. on the democratic side, jewel i can't recollect talk to me a little bit about that dynamic here. john fetterman, the lieutenant governor who has a substantial and commanding lead in polling is not on the campaign trail because of health problems. he had a stroke a couple of days ago. he was in the hospital. he's not going to be at his election night event. his wife will be there in his stead. they have been campaigning as a duo. you have seen her on the trail as much as him. tell me what you're hearing. with somebody like conor lamb as the more establishment democrat type. >> in an already wild pennsylvania primary, that was a shock to hear this weekend. most of what i'm hearing is because of fetterman has come into this with such a commanding lead and this is happening so close to the primary, it's

probably unlikely to change the equation too much for him. i mean, polling can be wrong, but he hasn't been up 10 or 20 points. he's been up 30 or 40 points in some polls. so most people think it won't be a major factor, but it's certainly -- i was out talking to voters today. his wife gisele cast her vote in brad dock and was talking to all of us. i talked to some voters. i think there's certainly some concern, but a lot of people made up their minds about him a long time ago. he was the first one to get in this race, and i didn't hear a lot on the campaign trail either from voters who were too concerned. >> nbc news, mark, has some new analysis out. when we look at the -- that is spike, and part of the reason why -- 61% of respondents saying they're very interested in what's happening now, versus 47%

in january. part of that is increasing interest as we go closer to the november midterms but part of it does seem to be the leaked draft opinion on roe vs. wade suggesting a majority of justices were ready to overturn the landmark ruling on abortion rights in this country. tell us about it. >> our poll shows us democrats were energized be they abortion draft ruling and that enthusiasm and interest in the midterm elections spiked by double digits from our march survey to may. now democrats are still trailing republicans overall when it comes to enthusiasm. but if at democrats are really going to be able to limit any losses this midterm season, they really have to start firing up democrats. and it seem at the early stage, they are doing it. hallie -- >> i got to -- >> go ahead. >> i don't mean to interrupt you. we do have some breaking news, a

development in the race. john fetorman. he according to his campaign is about to have a pacemaker implanted. he is somebody who is in the hospital for a stroke. his campaign is now saying -- this is obviously very late in the campaign in the primary situation that evolved, unexpectedly. his campaign says he will understood go a standard procedure to implant a pacemake we are a defibrillator to address the cause of the stroke. the understood lying cause was afib, atrial fibrillation, and that pacemaker should help on this front. we just talked about him. front-runner in a key race who is now going to be on the day of -- we don't know if it's happening today, tomorrow, or what, but we're learning he will

get a pacemaker implanted. vaughn, let me go to you and then julie on this. >> the timing for this is never right. the stroke took place on friday, and the campaign did not make the pub look aware until sunday afternoon. of course there was much happening, and he was in the hospital at that time, and we got word from his wife this morning who went to vote for him he'd be there several more days. john fetterman, in talking to voters, several of whom told me they were still voting for fetterman, despite the health scare, he's become a known entity in pennsylvania, especially about eastern. there's that pittsburgh and philadelphia divide. fetorman has been able to introduce himself as lieutenant governor to folks across the state. folks telling us despite the health scare they would vote for him. but they want and need, according to the voters, a candidate who can win in the general election.

it's republican pat toomey who is retiring, and while republicans see a lot of opportunities to knock democrats out of the senate, the democrat party see this as an opportunity to get a seat and that is why having fetorman healthy is so imperative in the months ahead. >> julia, to you. >> yeah, i think that's absolutely right. if he does prevail tonight, it become a general election question, and one of the things that a lot of voters said about him is they do find him most electable, tough, authentic, you know, and we'll see what more we learn about his health at this point. it was a little slow coming out of his campaign to hear exactly what was going on. sound likes we're getting more information as we speak, so it will -- we'll see what happens. >> yep, and again, the campaign saying this -- timingwise, they say he's about to have this procedure to have a pacemaker. . it is not clear if they mean in

the next couple minutes or hours or next day or so. one would imagine this is something the lieutenant governor's wife at the campaign tonight is likely to reference, is likely to mention. hoping her husband recovers successfully, of course. vaughn hilliard, mark murray, julia caruso, thanks so much. we've got a lot more primary coverage on the show, not just pennsylvania but north carolina where we're lye in this controversial republican's district rm the gop voters going stick with madison cawthorn? first, president biden's speech in buffalo. what he's saying about the conspiracy theory and people who helped spread it. plus, when kids can get in line for a covid booster. one last hurd toll go. hurd tol. that's why we strive for zero. you see, to some it means nothing. but to us, it means everything. here, take a look.

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president biden back at the white house now after visiting buffalo today, of course the

city where that deadly racist attack happened over the weekend, with this president calling out racism and supremacy in thinks speech. talking about the great replacement theory, the alleged theory in the online shooter's manifesto. >> i believe anybody who recommends replacement is to blame, not for this particular crime, but for no purpose except profit and/or political benefit, and it's wrong. it's just simply wrong. >> where exactly did this racist theory come from that's at the center of the deaths of these ten people? the racist conspiracy now known as the great replacement has its roots in france, popularized by a popular writer, renaud camus. he pushes lies about nonwhite immigrants wanting to make

europeans extinct, basically a core tenet of white supremacist ideologies. and as the forum explains it's got main elements, including elements of invasion by people of color, lies about vote we are replacement and anti-semitism. it's been referenced a lot, like at charlottesville, and these lies have influenced people who have taken hundred of lives. 77 in norway from a far right terrorist, or 51 dead in new zealand at two mosques. 11 dead at a synagogue in pittsburgh. 23 dead at a walmart in el paso. just this weekend in bouf low, ten dead, killed because they were black. i want to bring in marua barrett and ashley vitale. the skug over this racist conspiracy theory has become a political issue. you had senator chuck schumer blasting, you know, some of the main -- ishtd say, some of the conservative media, tucker

calson, for alluding to this on his program. the senator saying he's declining the offer that came from fox and carlson to debate him, as mitch mcconnell, i think, is not specifically answering questions posed to him by at least one member of our team on this, too. >> reporter: that's exactly right, member of our team and other news outlets posed the question to mcconnell as the responsibility he has as the top republican in the senate and leader of the party. he dolked the question several times, including when he was askinged by my colleague garrett headache. here's what he said in response to that question. listen. >> these actions we've seen and hate-filled attacks represent the views of a hate-filled minority. we can't allow them to destroy america, the real america. we can't allow them to destroy the soul of a nation.

>> reporter: look, of course, that wasn't senator mitch mcconnell. that was joe biden. but mcconnell did not engage with the premise of that question when he was asked about it, and he was asked several times after that. i think the important thing here when you talk about the politics on the hill, hallie, is mcconnell was one of those who gauges the temperature in his caucus for a fight ahead on something like this. when you look at the structures, many members up in tough re-election battles this fall. everything here seems to center around the midterms. even in moments like this when it shouldn't be politics at all, when you talk about taking on tucker carlson, that's not new to chuck schumer either. during the 2020 democratic primary, there was a back and forth between those who wanted to be president at that point about if going on fox was even the right thing to do. i remember senator elizabeth warren saying she wouldn't do town halls there because she was calling the network a hate for

profit racket. going on that network legitimatizes it, so that is something democrats can contend with, but for republicans that's clearly not where the appetite is. >> you have had some say of course they are against this racist theory. senator till lot sin called it garbage. that has been some pushback, including liz cheney. but maura we played that sound bite from president biden, it was not mitch mcconnell, it was president biden. but it was a piece, again orbing of this very emotional speech he delivered at a location that was so critical and is still so critical to so many people in this mostly black community in buffalo. >> reporter: that's right, hallie, it definitely was a somber morning as the mayor just described it in a press conference after meeting with president biden. but president biden was impassioned during this speech. as you remember, the rallies in charlottesville was one of the

reasons he decided to get into the race in 2020. he reminded people of that today, calling the attack on saturday a murderous, racist rampage and calling it straight forward terrorism. so, this is something that he acknowledged, something that can be done, work that can be done, focused on getting assault weapons off the streets. you and i know, hallie, gun legislation has not made its way through congress, and it's doubtful it will. but he also wanted to focus on the fact that hate and online extremism is so rampant on the internet, and not just in corners of social media or efforts like 4 chan, reddit. but it has infiltrated more popular sites. that's something biden and local leaders feel resolve around in pushing for change. but they're working to connect the dots after what happened here in buffalo. >> alex, before i let you go, there's this domestic terror bill that democrats are trying to quickly get passed.

cory bush has just come out and said she would support that. it is notable that that is the kind of bill democrats are looking to get pine now, and not something as it relates to gun reform, something democrats have not been successful in doing previously. >> because it speak to the tone and tenor of what's possible. yes, the democrats have the majorities in the house and senate, but not enough of majorities to move forward on things like gun violence prevention bills, and that's why you're seeing the house take up as swiftly as they can this domestic terror task force bill that would do things like bolster security for hbcus when we've seen increased threat levels at those locations. congresswoman cory bush saying that to me, it comes after she and others of the progressive squad negotiated for certain civil rights and civil liberties within this bill. she told us first she was going to be on board for this, and it means now it's most likely going to be all democrats voting for

this domestic terror bill. there might be one or two people holding out, but democratic leadership really want democrats to be unified behind this, showing that they are reacting not just to something that's in the news right now, but has been in the news over the course aft last several months and frankly years. we expect that to come to a vote tomorrow, too, hallie. >> alley vitale, live on capitol hill, m ark ura barrett live in buffalo, thanks to you both. now to breaking news out of michigan, where a judge just issued an injunction about state's abortion law. michigan is one of the states with a so-called trigger law that would basically make abortion illegal if the supreme court were to overreturn roe vs. wade. that is obviously in the spotlight now given the leaked opinion suggesting the justices are set to do that weeks from now. bottom line, is this a victory for abortion rights advocates here? it's certainly not the last word yet, but it is a step from this judge. >> it is. by its very essence, an

injunction is only a temporary measure, but in looking at this particular law, the judges or court concludes that they have a likely hood of success. as you talk about trigger laws, there are many states that if roe vs. wade is overturned automatically the laws hanging around on the books dormant will be reanimated like the walking dead and become living anti- -- or abortion criminal laws, criminalizing abortion. and so now courts are going to have to look at whether or not those violate their independent state constitutions. it is the case that individual states can offer more protection than the federal constitution in some areas. the federal constitution is often just a floor, a minimum standard. but as the court points out in this opinion, the michigan supreme court may eventually revisit this issue and decide that there is greater protection under the michigan supreme court.

in this case it's because of a right to bodily integrity, which didn't exist in the michigan law until relatively recently. so this is going to be an issue that will come up nationwide if the supreme court overturns roe. >> i was going to ask -- do you anticipate in other states? i would think if and when the supreme court does do as the presumption is they likely will do based on the document to overturn roe. >> yes, this is going to be an issue in many other states, and something folks should consider not only is there currently a federal constitution, but there may be additional protections at the state level because state constitutions often give more protection than the federal constitution does some that may be a secondary line of defense for those advocates of the right to have an abortion that the individual state's constitution may protect that right, that

privacy, or in the case of the state of michigan, the right to bodily integrity. >> danny, thank you for that breakdown. appreciate it. coming up, still ahead on the show, a rare and difficult look inside a children's hospital in ukraine. plus, what we know about the navy secretary's visit today to a warship linked to a string of recent suicides. that's coming up. es that's coming up eyes on the ball baby. digital tools so impressive, you just can't stop. what would you like the power to do? life... doesn't stop for diabetes. be ready for every moment, with glucerna. it's the number one doctor recommended brand that is scientifically designed to help manage your blood sugar. live every moment. glucerna.

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digital tools so impressive, you just can't stop. what would you like the power to do? let's get you a look at some of the other top stories we're following. the suspect at a mass shooting at a california church was charged with murder today. one of ten charges. it's coming as we learn the victim who was kill in the that attack died while trying to disarm the suspect. he's now being called a hero by officials. the fbi's also launching a hate crimes investigation into a shoot at a dallas hair salon last week. police announcing the arrest of the suspect in that attack who hurt three korean women. the suspect's girlfriend saying he had panic attacks and delusions after an accident with an asian driver. the secretary of the u.s. navy is visiting the "uss washington" after multiple

suicides, including three in the last month. courtney, i think we just heard from pentagon spokesperson john kirby. tell us what he said, bring us up to speed on this. >> reporter: we just got a little more information about this visit. carlos del toro visited but also went with the chief of naval operations. the two knave leaders went to the ship today and conducted a number of small group meetings. some were with the enlisted sailors. they met with the chiefs and then met with the leadership of that ship and the people who are assigned to helping the sailors through this difficult time. so chaplains and the people who are involved in their welfare. but as you mentioned, we heard a little about this from pentagon spokesperson john kirby and about the issue of suicide the

pentagon has been trying to tackle for some time now. >> it's very clear that the navy's taken the conditions seriously and the concerns of the sailors seriously. they're beginning to move -- like i said, most of them are off the ship now, and they're making available to them mental health counselling and support. >> reporter: so, in addition to the fact that as john kirby mentioned there, several hundred of the sailors have been moved ashore -- because the ship is in port right now. it's undergoing maintenance. this may not be apparent to viewers but that could be a difficult time for the sailor. they sign up for the navy in many cases so they can work on ships and be at sea where they're exercising their skills, where they are learning, growing. when you're sitting in port in this case for years, it can be a difficult time for sailors, and that's what navy leaders are pointing to. because of the multiple suicides

that have now occurred among people assigned to the ship, the navy surge in the some capabilities, including additional help with those people who may be contemplating pseudoor may need help. i mentioned the chaplains. there's also additional welfare officers involved, and there's a special suicide task forc that is now helping the sailors. >> we should note, if you or anyone you know is struggling there is help at the national suicide prevention lifeline. the number is on your screen. 1800-273-talk. you can also text strength to 741741. to ukraine where the steel plant in mariupol is apparently now under russian control. the ukrainian deputy prime minster announcing a planned prisoner swap with russia in the future. more than 50 ukrainian soldiers were evacuated from that plant

yesterday. we don't know how many are still there at this point. as we see how this has affected, how this war continues to impact ukrainian families. look at this video from a rare glimpse inside a children's hospital. this is veronica. this is her birthday. what you're seeing right here. she's learning how to reuse her hand after an attack in donetsk hurt her, took her parents and her family, leaving her with damage to her right side, leaving her with brain injury. doctors telling our correspondent they're seeing a dramatic increase in the number of injuries coming in, with some, including the youngest having to wait days and days. that wait, that prolonged delay led to infeks, led to amputations, too. i want to bring in our correspondent matt bradley who was in kharkiv. we've seen what it's like about ground for youngest victims.

there's also what's happening on the battlefield itself, the ukrainians losing some semblance of control in mariupol. can you give us an update on what it's like on the ground at this moment? >> reporter: we don't really know is the fact of the matter. we've heard from the ukrainians there are some soldiers still holed up underneath the azovstal steel works. this as an evacuation effort keeps going. the ukrainians are using interesting language. they're not saying their guys are surrendering. they're saying they have been ordered to stop fighting. soldiers, irregulars working for the national guard called the azov brigade. this is a right wing group that's been incorporated back in 2014, 2017, that period of time, into the ukrainian military, into the national guard. and they are now one of the most

stalwart defender of mariupol, as they did back in 2014, the last time the russians invaded. so, the russians are going to be using this as a propaganda boom. they are going to be able to say they've defeated this right wing sort of nazi group, and at the same time the ukrainians are going to see them as heroes, because they've just endured ceaseless shelling for so many months. but for both sides, this is going to be something they're going to be touting to their people, saying they've won. but for the russians this is critical because it means they control a stretch of land from the eastern donbas region, occupied by prorussian separatists since 2014 all the way to crimea, a peninsula that was annexed by russia also back in 2014. so this is a critical moment. but it really is more symbolic than anything else. hallie? >> matt bradley with an

important update with what's happening on the ground. now the conversation turn to the diplomatic front. sweden and finland jointly submit their application to join nato. something putin doesn't want to see. matt bradley, live in ukraine. appreciate it. coming up on the show, the new legal fight against republicans in wisconsin for allegedly trying to keep donald trump in power after he lost in 2020. plus, what's in a new multimillion dollars bill to help get baby formula back on the shelves. we've got more on that. and handicapping its chances it actually passes coming up. rer about keeping a healthy body. what goes on it. usually. and in it. mostly. here to meet those high standards is the walgreens health and wellness brand. over 2000 high quality products. rigorously tested by us. real world tested by you. and delivered to your door in as little as one hour.

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let me bring in garrett haake who's there with more. garrett, this has become a critical not just policy, but political issue, and a human/parent issue for many in this country and lawmakers, too. it is perhaps no surprise lawmakerss are looking to do something. tell us more about what the money is going to do, the time line through the house, and obviously it's going to have to get through the senate, too. >> reporter: does feel like the biggest deal on the hill this week. at the conference i was just at, i heard lots of that. republicans hammering the biden administration, trying to make this another issue in their lap. spends $28 million. none of it buys formula, acquires formula. it allows the fda to staff up, increase their oversight, including formula that the united states will be import in the short-term, and then to

improve oversight inspections, safety protocols and so forth over the formula that the u.s. government certainly hopes domestic producers will be able to ramp up production of now that there does seem to be agreement on this abbott plant. the house is expected to act an on this by thursday. the time line for the senate is later, perhaps as early as next week, but again, emergency funding in congressional terms does not mean this money turns around and goeses and puts bottles of formula directly on shelves. it clears away bureaucratic red tape and lets the fda work quicker to implement the solutions already being done holistically across the government. >> there's the important piece of prevention, from having this happen down the road. there's sense from some of the democrats the money could help on this front? >> reporter: that's right, and this could be an issue later in the week when we're going to see hearings about this. because there's a lot of questions about when fda knew

about problems, what fell through the cracks when you have one plant go offline and create the cascaing problems. a little bit of preventive money when it comes to inspections and so forth could make a big difference preventing the next crisis. >> garrett haake live on the hill, thank you. we have been talking a lot about election day, voters voting in primaries across the country, five of them. but we're also getting news on a lawsuit from the last election and seems to be the first lawsuit against republicans in a state president biden won. we're talking about wisconsin, where today two democratic electors are suing republican who is sent in fake a lebl electoral college votes for donald trump despite of course the former president lost that state by more than 20,000 votes. you'll remember that then president trump at the time pushed his vice president pence to -- we all know the former vice president did not do that. the democratic electors, the

real ones say the so-called fake electors plot was part of a broader conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election. nbc's pete williams is here with more on this. pete, if these republicans were not ultimately successful in having the results challenged, talk about the argument from the people who filed this suit and its significant. >> reporter: they say first of all they want a court to order that this was wrong and nobody should be able to do this again. what they say is because donald trump did not win the popular vote -- as you know, when you go to the polls and check biden or trump, you're not actually voting for joe biden or donald trump, you're voting for a slate of electors who will then meet in december and cast the actual vote in the electoral college, which is cast in early january. what they say is because biden won the election they had no right to gather, to cast their votes to sign this certificate and send it into the archives.

that all of that violated state law and was misleading. then they say this, they say all the people did this in the various states, the seven states where republicans did this, despite that biden won the to l foundation for pence and congress to count their ballots on january 6th, 2021, and to reject those cast by the real electors who had won the popular vote. so that's why they want the judge to rule here that this was wrong and to prohibit anybody from trying this again. now, i should say that the republican electors say they did this as sort of fallback, that in case there were successful election challenges, then these votes could then be counted if it was determined that biden actually didn't win the popular vote in wisconsin, so that's been their defense. there, by the way, was a complaint about this to the washington -- or the wisconsin state election commission, and the washington state department

of justice said, you know, it would have been better if they clarified exactly what they were doing, that they were doing this as a fallback, but it doesn't appear to be illegal. that's what a memo from the state justice department said. >> thank you for that. back to this election day, this year of course on primary day in north carolina with a lot of people looking at madison cawthorn. now, once a rising star in the gop before there were a whole bunch of controversies that turned some establishment republicans and at least some of the north carolina electorate against him. i'm talking about, for example, sexual harassment allegations, driving citations, scandalous leaked photos calling ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy a thug, getting stopped at the airport twice for trying to bring a gun, a firearm through security. one of the state's most powerful republicans is among those. senator thom tillis saying he's throwing his support behind one of cawthorn's opponents, state senator chuck edwards. cawthorn has kept the endorsement of former president

donald trump who won that state, of course, north carolina in the 2020 election. i want to bring in nbc news correspondent antonia hylton who is in fletcher, north carolina, for us. right before we came on the air, as we were on the air, i think, we heard from the other senator from north carolina, and i'm looking at my phone to read this quote here, richard burr, who told reporters that if cawthorn loses, it's a good move, right? this gives you a sense of how bitter this has become between more establishment republicans and congressman cawthorn and those who support him. >> reporter: that's right. in many ways congressman cawthorn has alienated himself not just from his colleagues in washington, d.c., but from well-established and well-liked republicans here in his home state, and so, you know, all eyes are really on the congressman right now, and that's when i talked to democrats and republicans here, many of whom i've met today have been sort of waffling in their support. still, former president trump's endorsement of cawthorn has continued to support his desire for people to give him a second chance is having an effect on

some voters here, but i had a long conversation with a republican here who was kind of wrestling with the idea of voting for the 26-year-old, worried that he's not really fit to serve. take a listen to some of what he shared with me. >> i think he's young. i think he's got potential. i think he's made some bad mistakes, but we're all human, and we all make mistakes, and i think he'd do north carolina good. >> what's giving you pause specifically? >> some silly things that he's done, you know, the speeding tickets, the knife at the school board, things like that, you know. you're in a leadership position, you have to stand up, and you have to set by an example. >> reporter: hallie, many of my conversations today kind of match a recent republican poll that showed that his unfavorable rating among gop primary voters went from 29% in march to 44% in

april. this gentleman you just met there told us that he ultimately did end up voting for congressman cawthorn, that he kind of went with his gut. to give you a sense, some of the words we've heard today have been immature, not ready. people have been considering state senator chuck edwards who you mentioned a moment ago. so what i would say is if i were congressman cawthorn, i would be grateful that the threshold today is 30% and not 50% in order to avoid a runoff. >> antonia hylton live for us in north carolina, watching that race. we'll be looking for more of our special coverage later tonight on that election. news now on the covid pandemic, a big decision expected this week when we expect the cdc to give the final green light for kids ages 5 to 11 to get pfizer's booster shot. earlier today, the fda approved that extra dose. they say there's data that protection from that initial vaccine for kids goes down over time. it's coming at a moment when the country is seeing more cases right now, cases up 57% over the past couple of weeks, and as big

cities like new york are now encouraging people to remask up given cases are going back up. joining us now is dr. vin gupta, a global health expert and msnbc medical contributor. thank you for being on the show. it's always good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> with cases going up in different parts of the country, when the boosters are available for kids 5 to 11 and we think when -- we should say if or when, although it seems like a matter of time, what is your recommendation to parents particularly when you look at the fairly low percentage of kids in that age group, about a third who have been fully vaccinated at this point. >> recommendations are that these vaccines, hallie are safe and effective. we know that there are no side effects like myocarditis coming from any of these vaccines in the pediatric age population. the dose is lower than the dose in adults. these are very well-tolerated vaccines, and critically, no child that received the vaccines in these trials ended up in the hospital. i'm actually in an icu right

now. no children who received any of these vaccines in these studies ended up in a pediatric icu or a pediatric hospital. that's important because that's the purpose of a vaccine against a contagious respiratory virus, no hospitalizations. >> how should parents be thinking about the timing here? should they be going now, for example, in the summer? should they be waiting to get the booster closer to fall when experts have anticipated there may be yet another spike? >> i'd get it right when it's available. >> okay. >> however, and it's key here, i'm speaking to the 70% of parents out there who have decided to not get their children between the ages of 5 and 11 vaccinated, it's critical to recognize that children were hospitalized at six times the rate during the omicron wave than they were during prior waves of covid-19 and at the rate of hospitalization from omicron is in some cases five to ten times higher than what we would see in a normal cold and flu season. this is something -- the ways in which this virus has changed, become more contagious, it is

sparing children from the hospital. get the vaccine for children ages 5 to 1 to keep them out of the hospital. as we talk about this and the need for boosters, it's important to recognize that the purpose of vaccinations are to keep you out of the hospital. the numbers that get cited often are about preventing a positive test. that is not the goal here. it's to keep you out of the hospital. >> dr. vin gupta, thank you so much. good to see you. today back here on capitol hill for the first time in decades, house members are getting a public hearing with key military leaders to talk about ufos. check out your screen. this is some declassified video from a hearing released just today. intelligence officials telling congress they don't know what this stuff is, what these unidentified aerial phenomena are, what they are, where they came from. here's the deputy director of naval intelligence talking about a couple of close calls. listen. >> there have been no collisions between any u.s. assets and one of these uaps, correct? >> we haven't not had a collision.

we've had at least 11 near misses though. >> and have we attempted to communicate with those objects? >> no. >> i want to bring in now nbc news correspondent gadi schwartz. you are in washington today. it's a treat to have you here on this coast. you're here because you are as obsessed as i think the rest of us are on this uap phenomena, right? what was really interesting about this hearing today is for the most part, it wasn't treated like a big joke. you know, propagated by people in tinfoil hats. this was members of congress and members of the military taking this phenomena seriously. >> and i think you found the moment of surprise that you just played, and that was when you heard somebody from the pentagon say we've had 11 near misses. so 11 near misses when you're talking about uaps, these are things that are floating or flying in the sky that we can't explain. in this particular case that you're seeing right there, the pentagon released two videos today. this video they released almost as a debunking to some videos that we've seen of what looked like triangular aircraft

circling or swarming navy ships off the coast of california. they said that that actually appears to be some unmanned aerial vehicle, so basically drones that they think that those are. that's video that we've seen a few years ago, but there's another, if we can show it, from inside of a cockpit of an f-18 where a fighter pilot goes zooming by one of these things. it's shot with his cell phone, his iphone, and you see it for just a couple of frames, and that's something that was up in the sky with these fighter pilots, and it looks like a near miss. we're not sure if that was particularly a near miss in the other video that was shown during the briefing, but it comes very close to that plane, and so when you're dealing with uaps, there's this whole safety issue, and some of the aviators that we've talked to have said, look, there is a national security concern here. if we're going up into the sky and we could run into one of these things and they could

cause catastrophic failure to our planes, we should also know about it. so in one regard this is a national defense question. in the other regard, if it's something else, some other technology, people want to know who or what is flying these things, hallie. >> gadi schwartz, we look forward to seeing more of your reporting tonight. appreciate it. "deadline white house" starts right now. ♪♪ hi, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york. president joe biden today out with a call for all americans to reject the racist ideology that has time and time again led to deadly and delaware stating violence in communities all across the united states. afternoon meeting with the families of the victims of the mass shooting in buffalo that took place four days ago, visiting the memorial near the site of the shooting, president biden give a speech in which he commemorated each of the ten victims, and then he said this. >> white