morgan chesky, thank you. i'm jose diaz-balart. thank you for the privilege of your time. katy tur is up with more news right now. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. it's 11:00 a.m. eastern, and 8:00 a.m. pacific. and right now in pennsylvania they're still counting votes. last night's primary came with some surprises and one big cliff-hanger. the most closely watched contest on the republican side. the primary for that open senate seat, is still too close to call. trump endorsed tv doctor mehmet oz and businessman david mccormick you see them here are neck and neck. on the other side, democrats are rallying behind lieutenant governor john fetterman not seen

here because he's recovering from a stroke. that's his wife gisele. earlier, they laid out the stake of the race on "morning joe." >> i don't think it's night and day, it's going to make a difference between codifying roe v. wade or looking to raise the minimum wage and addressing climate issues. it's really two different sides of the coin. >> in the governor's race, republican leadership is reeling, worrying about the general election now that state senator doug mastriano won the gop nomination for governor. he rose to prominence by denying the 2020 election results, big ally of donald trump. and was in washington on january 6th. some are probably worried because of all of that he's unelectable in a general against the dem-nominee ad josh shapiro. and in a blow, madison cawthorn will not be returning to congress, losing a race that

many said was his to lose. steve kornacki has that on the big board. and sweden and finland just jointly submitted their applications to join nato. how it reshuffles ahead. and mind the deal, u.s. sock agrees to way the women as much as men. a big deal decision. let us start, though, with what is. happening in the primaries across the country. all of the results from tuesday night. nbc's steve kornacki is standing by at the big board. also with us is tim miller, writer at-large at the bulwark, and an msnbc political analyst. we'll get updates from pennsylvania and north carolina with reporters on the ground. steve, let us start with you. break down what we saw. >> yeah. and what we're still seeing here, katy, as you see here, this is a cliff-hanger, 2459 votes, that's the margin for

mehmet oz for david mccormick, to winner against john fetterman. that's 0.2 of 1% margin. actually we got a few more votes tick in there. you can see, 2463, that's the margin of oz over mccorporal mccormick. just to take you through, from allegheny county, this is pittsburgh-to-pittsburgh area. this is david mccormick home county. there's about 30 precincts that have not reported out of election day vote. the vote that was cast there on election can day yesterday. mccormick has been leading oz by six points in allegheny county. so when those votes are counted it seems likely that mccormick will make up some ground on oz, not enough to erase 2400 votes but enough to cut into it a little bit. by the way, we're getting indications from allegheny county those votes will be counted. it may take a while, not today,

may not be tomorrow, maybe the end of the week when they're able to get the votes. there's a batch of votes, 6,000, or 7,000 in allegheny county that are likely to be favorable to mccormick, that's part of the mix there. we also know there's outstanding votes in delaware county. outside of philadelphia. this is one of those big high-population areas. there's ten precincts in delaware county have yet to put out their vote from yesterday pum can see mccormick is leading delaware county. it's very narrow. oz is doing quite well as as well. maybe mccormick can make up ground in delaware as well. those are two big sources of outstanding election day votes. that's one piece of the puzzle. it's the smaller piece of the puzzle. the bigger piece of the puzzle is outstanding vote by mail ballots. and we think right now that there are about 32,000 of those. 32,000, uncounted vote by mail ballots. now, what's happened here is, it

kind of varies throughout the state here. in some counties, they've just collected the ballots as they've come in for the last few weeks. and they said we're not even going to start opening them, start processing them until day, until the day after the election. in other counties, they processed a bunch of them yesterday, people brought in mail-in ballots on election day and they now have those to count today. there's a mishmash how old the ballots are. some of them are several weeks old. some, several hours old. there's about 32,000 of them. the key to understanding the mail-in ballots, mccormick, in the mail-in ballots counted so far has been leading oz by nine points. this is part of a pattern we've seen in republican primaries so far this year. the trump-backed candidate, mehmet oz, the trump-aligned candidates typically do worse with the mail-in ballots than the same-day vote.

so, again, you got 30,000 mail-in ballots. those that have been counted, mccormick has been leading oz by nine points. if that were to hold. that pattern were to continue across the 32,000 or so votes. there could definitely be enough for mccormick to overtake oz and actually move into first place. that's a big if. it's possible. as i said a lot of these are ballots that people dropped off at the polls yesterday. maybe late arriving mail ballots like that are more favorable to oz. saul or the of variables here. but a pool of votes this big does give mccormick an opportunity to leapfrog oz and get in first place. the other thing to keep in mind, no matter who lands in first, whether oz holds off mccormick or mccormick is able to catch him. there's a recount threshold. anything over half a point triggers a recount. there's at two points. seems plausible we're going to

end up in recount territory no matter how this shakes out. >> really exciting and interesting. steve kornacki, thank you very much. let's bring in dasha burns, outside of philly, bryn mawr county. dasha, i thought the number of voters you that spoke to didn't like dr. oz, but were pulled over in the last minute because of the endorsement of donald trump? >> reporter: yeah, katy, look, there's a reason why everyone is watching the state, right? first it could decide the balance of power in the senate. but it's a microcosm of the conversation we're having nationally about where the republican party is headed about trump's influence. i've said it before, i'll say it again this is perhaps trump's biggest test yet. you can look at what's happening in two different ways, right? on the one hand, two-thirds of american primary voters did vote for a candidate that trump did not endorse.

mccormick and barnette. but for months, i've been talking to you about this, i've been hearing this resistance from voters, mostly undecided voters who said to me this guy from out of state, he's a talk show host. i don't know why he's running. i had a very interesting call with a gentleman named bruce fine just before i got on the air this morning pipe texted him asking him what he did. he told me not what i expected to do. i called him right away and said what happens. he was leaning towards bartos, but in the end, he walked in the voting booth at 7:30 p.m. and ended up voting for oz. he told me there must be some reminder that trump endorsed him. this is the behavior of voters, voting behavior is idiosyncratic. and at the end of the day, are the folks going to say there's too much noise out there, i'm just going to go with trump's pick.

on the other hand, katy, i also talked to another gentleman interested in bartos. he told me he wasn't undecided. and surprise, last minute, he actually voted for mccormick. here we are. i don't think any of us are surprised that we don't have an answer here yet. this is always going to be very tight. but some of these stories indicate where voters are right now. it's just so fascinating to hear the final last minute decisions that people are making here today. >> i mean, it's really interesting they don't trust donald trump implicitly so when he makes the endorsement they're going to go to his chosen candidate. but they trust him enough in the last stretch, right before they cast that ballot, okay, fine, i'll allow him to pull me over the edge. >> tim, what do you think of all of this? >> look, i think you can mission the forest for the trees here. what will we learned last night in pennsylvania is that this is still very much donald trump's party, right? even if oz doesn't win at the

edge, look at the other two candidates he's running against, kathy barnette gain the momentum, and i think took from oz at the very end because she gave a more authentic maga trumpy, she called it ultra-maga vibe that attracted her to the trump voters that i think had reasonable doubts that oz was genuine about his conservative beliefs. meanwhile, david mccormick who was, more of an old school kind of center-right moderate republican completely changed for the campaign. he leaked his announcement to breitbart and was going to run as maga can the conservative that trump had. it's not as if the race was between trump and never-trumpers, it was three different flavors of trump. i don't think it's surprising because voters had trouble

navigating that. doug mastriano, i think this is the most important result of what happened is going to be the nominee for the republicans for a swing state that could be critical in 2024. he went to the mall january 6. he's an avowed insurrectionist. he said he wanted pennsylvania to overturn the duly elected joe biden in their state and instead, gave an alternate state of electors. this is extremely dangerous. whether oz or mccormick, they'll be running on the ticket with a man who got half of the vote on a very conserative primary. he said in the intro, some republicans are hurting from this. i think there are republicans who actually tell their reporter friends that they're worried about it because it's not nice to say i'm an insurrectionist. there was not an active campaign to stop mastriano. i think everybody has come to

terms with some level of trumpism and frankly some level of insurrectionism being okay. and that's on the ballot in pennsylvania. >> interesting if he does win he'd be able to appoint the state election officials which would be very consequential in 2024, if he runs or does not win that state or whoever the chosen candidate is. i wonder do you think he's electable, though, in pennsylvania? do you think mehmet oz or david mccormick are people that can convince a pennsylvania electorate that donald trump is -- and the election fraud and all of the policies that come with him are the way to go? especially when you're hinging so much on suburban women in that state? >> that's a good question and josh shapiro who won the democrat nomination is center/left, mainstream can appeal to suburban voters. here's the problem, though, the economy does not turn around

between now and november. you just look at past elections. past wave elections during bad economic times. accidental senators, accidental governors, get swept in all the time. people that wouldn't have been able to win in other environments, but they get swept in because, you know, there is this energy and this voter turnout coming that's, you know, wants to go against the incumbent president. and the incumbent party. pennsylvania voted more republican than the country did in each of the last two elections. obviously, trump won it in '16, biden narrowly in 2020. look, i think that mastriano obviously has deep issues reaching some of these swing voters. but sometimes, a wave is so great that it's too big to overcome. and i think it's very risky for democrats to assume someone as dangerous as this is not electable. it feels to be -- i've got a little ptsd from 2016 when people said trump wasn't electable, you know. >> that's what i was thinking

when people were having the conversations about mastriano it felt very much like 2016, trump can't win. look what happened. let's go to antonia henderson in north carolina. you're following an interesting surprise. madison cawthorn was not able to keep his seat. what i'm surprised about, not that he wasn't able to keep it, but just how close it was in loss. >> reporter: well, the warning signs were all there, katy. and the knives have been out for him tour weeks both from republican colleagues in washington. and folks here in north carolina. who for the most part have really circled around state senator chuck edwards who ended up beating him by that small window. look, i spent the day in a republican county talking to voters right outside of precinct, actively debating to continue to support cawthorn. they were using words like

immature. not sure he's ready to lead. chuck edwards, on the other side was coming through, having conversations with voters there, telling me she had spoken to republicans that were so disgusted by congressman cawthorn's behavior -- take a listen to my conversation with jasmine beach herrera who is going to be the democrat running against chuck edwards now. >> and voters are also sick and tired of the divisive and extremist policies that he traffics in and looking for common ground and moving forward together. that's what i bring to the table. and that's the kind of campaign that we're running. >> reporter: it was really interesting, katy, as i was talking to republicans right there in the same spot where i spoke to beach-ferrara, some of them telling me i'm going to go with my gut and vote for cawthorn but told me republicans they knew locally were very much on the fence. it looks for some of those election voters, they ended up

breaking for volkswagen like state senator chuck edwards. who is aligned closely with madison cawthorn but plans to be less embarrassing, katy. >> antonia, thank you. tim miller, thank you. what a 21-year-old russian soldier told a war crimes court about krilling an unarmed ukrainian civilian. there he is. plus, quote, white supremacy is a poison. president biden condemns the shooter in buffalo. and one survivor said she had seen the suspect before. >> he said to me, you're out of place here. you look like you belong in the suburbs. i could marry massive gunshots, you could hear them getting closer and closer. them getting closer and closer.

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quote, a historic moment, nato secretary-general heralded the official application submissions from sweden and finland to join nato. now that they have applied, the leaders from both those countries are going to head to washington to meet with president biden tomorrow. in ukraine, a russian soldier told a war crimes court he is guilty. officials say the 21-year-old shot a civilian in the head. he now faces up to life in prison. russian officials say they have not gotten any information on the trial. joining me now is nbc's matt bradley who is in kharkiv. and elizabeth shackle a fellow

on the chicago department of affairs and former diplomat with the u.s. state department. >> so, matt, talk to me about the guilty plea and the first of its crime war crimes trial in ukraine. >> reporter: yeah. well, we've been hearing about that. this is really interesting because, of course, this is a russian soldier who is being accused in a criminal court. not in a military court. so, in a way it really looks like it's a gesture by the ukrainians to show that they are in fact trying to be as humane as possible, with those who they have captured here. and it is unusual, most of the russians about to be accused of war crimes and we're seeing a lot of investigators, flown into the country, dozens of them about to investigate war crime. a lot of them have returned to russia or behind enemy lines. this is really a very unusual case. and it's one that will set are the tone going forward for war crime investigations across the country. katy, i want to mention another question of war crimes and this is on the russian side.

here in the east, we've seen in mariupol there's as many as 1,000 azov brigade fighters who have left that azovstal plant. most moved into russian custody into the donetsk region. into the donetsk oblass. to decree that azov groups that have ties to neo-nazis that they in fact a terrorist organization. this would mean this surrender that we've seen from the azov plant that it might not be so conditional, we might actually see some soldiers who have surrendered being accused of war crimes in russian courts. this would be threatening of course, because this would mean they wouldn't enjoy the same legal course that it looks like this 21-year-old russian is enjoying here in ukraine. and it would be a violation, it seems of what the ukrainians

have agreed on with the russians. katy. >> matt bradley, matt, thank you very much. elizabeth, let's talk about finland and sweden joining nato. we've seen this coming. we've had some initial conversations about it. what do you make of russia so far shrugging it off? >> well, i think right now, putin is probably trying to downplay it because it's such a massive strategic failure on his part. for someone to claim he was invading ukraine to push back against further nato expansion and to have that invasion cause that very expansion, 840 miles, i think at this stage, he sees it as a fait accompli and doesn't want to make it look like a fellow as it is for him. >> what are those two leaders of the countries going to talk to president biden at the white house? >> i imagine, they're going to be talking about the support that the united states can offer in the interim period. right now, it's unclear how long it's going to take for nato to

bring in finland and sweden. it's out in the public now. you've had nato supported very clearly. most of the countries have supported it clearly. and finland and sweden have made an application for it. this can be considered a very tender time because they're not in the article by protection, and they have indicated that interest. so, i think you're going to hear -- we're going to hear news about how the united states is going to help facilitate and fast-track that process which may well bring in the question of turkey and what the u.s. can do to ensure that turkey gets offer the position of opposition right now. >> what concerns you about what matt bradley was just reporting about the troops in the azovstal steel plant that are now under russian control? >> a lot of concern there. i mean, initially, of course, there's the concern of safety of those taken over but also it's a matter what did they negotiate between the russians and ukrainians to make that happen? we had heard indications of a rapid prison exchange.

you've got to think of long term in possibly resolution overall conflict. if you can't build any level of trust between the two sides it's going to make it harder than it is right now to make assurances to the ukrainians to make any concessions in order to reach it. so it's a small example of it but as the ukrainian government is looking at what they might be willing to give you got to consider what the phase would be of any ukrainians left behind in territory the russians might take. so i think it's raising the bar even farther for obstacles for resolution. elizabeth shackelford, thank you very much. and the house has a new plan to spend millions to help produce manufacturing of baby formula. so when exactly will the shelves get restocked? that's next. shelves get restocked? that's next. yeah. yeah we're getting outdoorsy. save on outdoorsy

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formula shortage. the two kids, both in tennessee, were admitted because the families could not find the specific formula they needed. one has since been discharged. first lady jill biden is addressing the crisis in a new psa she and the surgeon general said the biden administration is pushing to get more formula on the shelves. and the house is moving closer to a vote on an emergency spending bill to help increase supply. but how soon will be the shelves be restocked? nbc correspondent ali vitali joins me now, ali, how soon will the shelves get restocked? does congress have an answer? >> reporter: well, congress' answer at this point, katy, is two-fold. on the one hand, they're trying to expand how many providers can put form flew the w.i.c. program, which is the women, infant and children prom that many use to buy formula for their babies. then on the other side, they're putting $28 million towards the

effort in the emergency funding bill. both of those things are likely to come to a vote tomorrow in the house of representatives. in terms of that $28 million, you're seeing it on the screen what the breakdown there is this is according to rosa deloire ra. this is what she broke down, $1.5 million in infant formula, supply chain investment. and staffing, specifically looking at staff that can help bring more companies online who are fda approved and inspected. so, really, the way to think about this money is it's all going to the food and drug administration. it's sort of that middle ground between the conveyor belts that are actually making the formula and when it hits the shelves for parents. this is meant to ease that middle period of regulation and inspection. so they can both get the supply chain up to snuff and bulk up on supply itself and also that supply is safe. that's of critical concern. >> ali vitali, thank you very much.

we would be remiss, ali, if we didn't tell everybody about this, your book "electable: why america hasn't put a woman in the white house." it's now available on preorder. >> thank you so much. >> i'm very, very proud of you i cannot wait to read the book. >> reporter: thank you. and the house judiciary committee is on hour two of a hearing what it is calling the ongoing crisis abortion rights. after the leaked supreme court draft opinion indicated that roe v. wade could be soon overturned. elizabeth warren is spearheading the act to protected the privacy of women who get abortions. she and others calling on location data firms to provide information on information of the collection of cell phone data tied to abortion clinics, folks are worried about this.

meanwhile on tuesdays a judge suspended the state's decades old old ban. let's bring a professor of the university law school and msnbc legal analyst. barbara, explain to us this ruling. >> well, planned parenthood of michigan filed a lawsuit against michigan's abortion law. it's referred to by some people as a zombie law. these were laws rendered moot when roe v. wade was decided. but with the leaked opinion that appears to be in jeopardy. these statutes like the one in michigan are coming back from the dead like a zombie. so this statute would make it a felony to perform an abortion on a woman unless to save the life of the woman. and it violates the law of the michigan constitution and a judge yesterday agreed and issued an injunction saying the plaintiffs have a likelihood on

the success of the merritt and will stem that success on the law until the full case can be heard. >> so when will the full case be heard? >> it will proceed in a matter of months. one of the things that the judge in this case did that is different than what the supreme court did it suspended the enforcement of the statute in the meantime. it creates all of this uncertainty for doctors who perform abortions and people who become pregnant and need to make a quick decision about what they're going to do. until there's a decision on the case after lengthy litigation, this law does not go into effect and there is a right to abortion in the state of michigan. >> governor gretchen whitmer has already said she doesn't plan to enforce this law. i'm wondering can the ruling apply to other states who have the zombie laws on the books? >> no, not the ruling per se because it only applies to

michigan and interprets michigan's constitution but i do think it gives a playbook to other states on how they might proceed to look at their constitutions and see whether they have similar provisions. in michigan's constitution, this argument was based on the due process clause that says there's a due process right to bodily integrity. there's case law interpreting that in a favorable way that the judge relied on in this case. to the extent that planned parenthood is planning a nationwide strategy. certainly what planned parenthood in michigan could be a strategy for some other states. >> barbara, i'm wondering your reaction to the news that axios just reported that the threats to the supreme court, the justices have been on the rise. even before this abortion draft opinion came out. what do you make of this? >> i think people in public office across the board are receiving a great number of threats. we see this among judges not just with the supreme court but lower courts.

you may recall there was a shooting at the home of a new jersey judge whose son was killed. we've seen it with election workers and others. i think people would be unleashed to not only give verbal threats but to threaten physical violence. and i think it's something that we really need to get a handle on. it is a damage to democracy when instead of following the rule of law, we're allowing people to engage in vigilante justice. >> yeah. >> so, whether you like the decision or not, i think violence against the decisionmaker is not the answer. >> and the reporting on the report said it was across the etiological spectrum. it wasn't confined to one side or the other. barbara mcquade, thank you very much. if you out there have wondered if that stuffy nose is a cold, flu, allergies or covid, i'm one of those people. a new test could help us find out. the fda has authorized a first nonprescription test that can detect covid, influenza amb and

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>> good to see you. i think one major point to be made is that congress leaks a lot more than doj does. we know more about the investigation in congress than we do about what's going on at doj. this is the largest investigation in fbi history. there's nearly 800 people charged so far. they have 2,000 cases still left to go through, people who haven't been charged who entered the capitol or assaulted members of law enforcement outside. this is a massive investigation. they are asking congress for resources. i think here the key point is that this could be a code for doj. if they were to slog it out and fight through the courts and try to get access to this information, that could go on for a very long time. what they can do for this process is say, congress, give us these transcripts. we will look into that. they can match it up and compare it to what they learned through their investigation. maybe turn up somebody lying to congress and charge them criminally with that. there's a lot that can be used -- that they can do with these charges.

as we saw in the mueller investigation, congress can spring open the door and little bit more doj and explore areas that might not be able to go into a grand jury inquiry because there's not that direct connection to obvious criminal conduct. the congressional investigation can open the door for doj going backwards. >> they are doing a lot of investigations into people inside the capitol, who stormed the capitol on january 6. there's a lot of trials going on for people who did that. i don't want to get ahead of anybody. i don't want to speculate. i don't think there's good for anything. i wonder if they want these transcripts and they can bring criminal charges, i wonder, if you were somebody who sat for one of the interviews, who maybe has a more high profile name, a lawmaker, or somebody in the donald trump white house, would you feel nervous? >> you would. anything you lied about to congress is something you could

be charged with. doj has methods which they can obtain communication. we have seen that. the way that they have gone about getting cell phone data, showing where people are located. the way they used facial recognition in some cases. there's a lot of information doj can obtain. they can go to google to show where your phone was on that day or get your messages if they are unencrypted. there's a lot of ways they could match that up with what the individuals told congress. i think there's this interplay, tension but also interplay between the doj investigation and the congress investigation. we see during sentences, doj were -- the judges credited people who testified before the committee. that's been a benefit for defendants who have actually gone to the committee and testified. that's been something that their defense attorneys have brought up and gave that as credit. there's a lot of interplay between this investigation and it will be interesting to see

how -- if these transcripts come through that could advance this further. >> ryan, thank you very much. that's going to do it for me for this 11:00 a.m. hour. i will be back in this seat at 2:00 p.m. eastern. before that, "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good day, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. following a wild primary night with results still coming in from a pennsylvania race that could determine which party controls the senate. right now, trump-backed doctor and talk show host dr. oz is running head to head with david mccccormick. the winner will face john fetterman who beat connor lamb for the democratic nomination. fetterman is still recovering from a stroke he had last week. results in the governor race will pit