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that are nice rather than mean @arimelber. or @arimelber.com. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. good evening, everyone. there are a ton of political headlines today starting with the big multistate campaign news from overnight. pennsylvania lieutenant governor john fetterman handily won. news he received while recovering from a stroke he suffered last week. idaho governor brad little fended off his trumpy lieutenant governor who twice attempted to grab power while he was out of state. charles booker could become kentucky's first black united states senator. he will be running against rand paul this november. and former north carolina supreme court chief justice
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cheribesaley won. madison cawthorn taken down by his party not for bringing guns on planes or calling ukraine evil or making hitler's home part of his vacation bucket list or alleged misconduct, no, no, but rather for snitching on the alleged republican cocaine orgies. we begin in pennsylvania with a reminder of how elections work. now, you see there are many different ways to vote. there is early voting and voting on election day and filling out mail-y ballots. anyone can vote by mail in pennsylvania but they cannot be counted until election day. that's why in 2020 it took a few days past election day for joe biden to be declared the winner. and the lead can change as you count more and later tallied votes. nothing nefarious about that.
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and yet donald trump and republicans used that perfectly normal process and its completely routine delays to cry voter fraud and stolen election which led to trump's lawyer rudy giuliani winding up holding that embarrassing press conference at four seasons landscaping and thanks to the big lie about a stolen election which lots of republican voters believe there was an insurrection at the united states capitol and you know the rest. flash forward to today and the republican senate primary is currently too close to call in pennsylvania. the establishment candidate hedge funder david mccormick was ahead last night but by midnight the trump endorsed candidate dr. mehmet oz pulled ahead as more votes were counted. if dr. oz winds up winning, he likely will be able to thank those very same mail-in ballots that republicans spent the last year and a half having a meltdown over. as if on cue trump took to his failing social media network to
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say dr. oz should declare himself a winner now despite the fact that counting more votes might help oz. but while the situation is deeply ironic and easy to mock, last night's election also highlighted the incredibly serious stakes of this year's midterms. take a look at the winner of the pennsylvania republican gubernatorial primary. doug mastriano. back in 2020 he was the ringleader of that aforementioned effort to steal the vote in pennsylvania holding unauthorized vote audits and hearings on fake election fraud and evening floating the idea that the state legislature could just nullify the vote. he was even subpoenaed by the january 6th committee after attending the insurrection. if he's elected governor he would appoint the secretary of state who oversees elections and he has said that that person would force everyone in the state to reregister to vote to stay on the rolls which in case you didn't realize is literal voter suppression. he's not even hiding that he
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intends to steal the election if elected. here is video of him celebrating with election desertion proponent ivan rakeland last night. >> the next governor of paenls, folks, colonel retired doug mastriano, also senator, the future governor. what do you want to tell us tonight as you're about to clinch victory? >> we're going to send a message to the united states of america that things are changing in pennsylvania, it's going to be fantastic. >> 20 electoral votes as well. >> oh, yeah. >> yeah. there it is. right in plain sight, a plan to put pennsylvania's 20 electoral college votes in republican hands in 2024 regardless of how pennsylvanians vote. joining me now, the democratic strategist and msnbc political analyst and tim from the bulwark and author of the up coming --
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tim miller, "why we did it: a travel log from the republican road to hell." literally, tim, i apologize my fellow coloradan. my bad, i'll let you go first. look, the thing is that, you know, i got to let you comment on the delicious irony of the fact that the exact same process that republicans called the steal in 2020 is the same process now that is going to elect these republican primary candidates and it's the same reason for the delay. can they possibly declare this a steal? let's say dr. oz doesn't win because there were no blacks except the lady who lost, this is a very, very non-philly electorate. it used to be that in the 1990s philadelphia and the big four suburban counties passed a third -- used to cast a third of gop primary votes, tuesday was just above a fifth. that's ron brownstein reporting.
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it ain't philly. it's just the absentee ballots. your thoughts? >> i am wise so i took that as a compliment, joy. it's okay. >> true. >> look, here's the thing, i think you get to the bottom of this, we can mock this. we make fun of it. be like, oh, remember how everybody said, i went to bed and donald trump was winning and then i woke up and joe biden was winning and nothing good happens after 9:00 so must have been a cheat and the same thing happened last night, people went to bed, dave mccormick was winning, woke up dr. oz is winning right now but you don't hear the same trump chose oz, right, so he's doing a halfhearted steal effort and saying oz should declare victory but you don't hear him making the same arguments because it was all a ruse from the start, all a fantasy from the start and they all know it. here's the thing that's uniquely dangerous about trump. we'll get to mastriano, there is some anti-democratic just energy that is going through the entire republican party, no doubt.
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there's something about trump that's unique and that is he's shameless. he has a shameless superpower far beyond all these other mere mortals and his willingness to carry on this ruse, this obvious ruse for years and convince millions it's true. not many regular politicians can do that. it's hard to see dave mccormick creating a cult following if he loses this. he will go back to his wine chalet, to his hedge fund buddies if he loses because he's a relatively normal human. without trump in the mix, without the ability to demagogue what's happening in philly, without being able to demagogue about how george soros got involved or wiley foreigners, the whole steal thing won't happen this time which just reveals how much of just a ridiculous scam it was and continues to be from the 2020 election. >> right, because, you know,
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also juanita, they never declared the steal when they themselves the members of congress who believe in the so-called conspiracy theory, you know, that there was a steal, they didn't think their own elections were stolen. they somehow feel like the dead venezuelan dictator excised just trump's votes and they left their votes so i got elected legitimately but something wrong with -- it never made sense but let's talk about shameless because if you want to talk about shameless, this guy mastriano, he equals trump in shamelessness, he's just not famous. there is a lengthy piece in "the new yorker" that was -- i posted it under scaring is caring because this guy unlike trump who i doubt is really a christian. i doubt he's refer read four words in the bible but he appeals to a certain kind of conservative christian, i put an asterisk because it's a branch of christianity that is a far right evangelical christian
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nationalism, mastriano per "the new yorker" participated in a series of marches in which conservative christians among a hodgepodge of qanon followers and white nationalists gathered to pray that god would keep trump in office and participants dressed in colonial knickers to evoke the american revolution or animals to evoke the israelites and jack told me they blew rams' horns that were blown to bring down the sinful city of jericho believing they could literally overturn the elections results. attempting to use incantation, prayer, anything. they thought literally there is some sort of demonic force allowing democrats to win. that's who would be the governor of pennsylvania if he were to win. your thoughts? >> look, i watch bits and pieces of his acceptance speech last night and sprinkled without were the scriptures and appeals to christians and it was just a
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meandering speech in which he talked and hit on every attack that comes from the evangelical right, attacks on trans kids and lgbtq people and anything that appeals to them and i think if there's any moment for him to expand his message beyond the 2020 election, it will be now and he's going to lean in on these wars that we have seen from the evangelical right not only on censureship of black history and crt but also of, again, lgbt people and kids as well as abortion. i appreciate josh shapiro tapping into it already. he released an ad five days ago outlining all of the threats that mastriano presents. he emphasized of course, knows the ins and outs of pennsylvania legislature who filed a resolution to throw out the 2020 presidential votes and insert fake electors and actively participate in the coup attempt and also the one who authors anti-abortion bills and will come after our basic rights based on what he defines as his
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christian religion as a guide and so there's no stopping that and i fear it's going to continue to be a uniting entity as the article mentioned, not only of religious folks but qanon believers and anybody who wants to tap into that energy and that's what he has on trump. like you said, joy, that's how he's probably going to be able to expand his base to some degree because we know that the 2020 lies do have a limiting factor there. a limiting factor that we know is not going to reach broad appeal across pennsylvania but when he taps into the religion factor, that is something that is going to be expansive in the general election. >> and now i'm going to get you right here, tim, because you are the guy who tried to write a plan for republicans at one point to try to expand their base to include more people of color, to broaden it beyond being a very ultra white party. but now they've gone in completely the opposite direction. i read a thomas edsall piece on
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"the new york times." it said that 20% to 25% of americans can be classified as believing in some form of replacement theory in some version, some element of the idea that white americans are under existential threat because black and brown people are attempting to replace them in a conspiracy whether or not they believe that this part of the conspiracy that jewish people are behind so that means that we have a national security threat tied to this election. are democrats approaching this because there's a lot of democrats who are gleeful mastriano is the nominee. should they be or should they be worried? >> yeah, i think they should be a little worried. i think that josh shapiro has run a really good primary so far for folks who haven't been watching him as a central left. uniting kind of democrat and i think he kind of appealed to the kinds of folks that i was talking to back when i totally
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failed to expand the republican party in the suburbs and people of color and talking about kind of almost republican principles appealing to individual freedoms and how mastriano wants to do a top down government christian nationalist and insert into their lives and shapiro's message has been good. i didn't love that they did ads promoting mastriano because they thought he would be the weakest candidate. i think the threat here is so severe and i just think democrats need to understand that pennsylvania, this is not like, you know, having a crazy governor in idaho, okay. pennsylvania could be the critical state in the next election. and having somebody that's already said they would overturn the results, that's very dangerous and so democrats got to be able to speak to those suburban swing voters to win the race. >> the guy he was with, ivan, up for lieutenant colonel in the army reserve is the guy who was pushing the pence card theory that pence really could overturn the election. this was -- let's talk about madison cawthorn. i feel like i should sing "in
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the arms of angels." i won't subject anyone to that. his party drove him the hell out. showing they can do it. here's some of his voters that were asked what are his accomplishments? take a look. >> i want to know about the achievements. i was with my wife when she spoke directly to him and they looked at each other and you can tell he's very sincere in what he's standing for. >> he sends an email to me and he tells me the bills that he's presenting. >> he's got desire. he's only been in congress for less than two years, you know, it takes longer than that to get your feet wet and to be able to accomplish meaningful things. you got to build up seniority. >> juanita, i'll let you take this one. democrats prepared to deal with an electorate full of people like that who despite everything were willing to vote for madison
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cawthorn again? he barely lost. >> vote for him again. he barely lost and i think also recognizing that democrats are dealing with a republican party that found his comments about their drug activity, their sex activities to be the red line. like you said, joy, their red line wasn't about child sex trafficking investigations, it wasn't about active threats to the lives of the president or other members of congress, right? like this is what did them in. i look at someone like madison cawthorn who did prioritize celebrity over any substantive action and voters say that was enough for them but clearly wasn't enough for him to get over the finish line. i don't expect him to go far but i don't expect him to be engaged with the republican party in the future. >> i wonder what tim very quickly -- about to go. i invited him on the show. our show reached out to him. i think he should name napes. they came for him. he should come for them. any sources in the party that can get me to get madison cawthorn on the show. >> don't get me in trouble, joy.
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i'm not going there but i think he's only 26 so this is a guy who could have a second life. i'm not surprised he's not naming names. >> he'll have a spotify podcast in four days. i just want him to name the names. i'll subscribe too it if he name the names. i want to know who is doing the cocaine orgies. thank you very much. still ahead on "the reidout." another setback for putin as sweden and finland officially apply for nato membership. will putin follow through on his threats to retaliate and later -- >> we have to not only talk about how we're going to end the hate but who is responsible for generating it. >> who is responsible? well, it's no great mystery, mr. president. we've been talking about it. much more on that later. vice news uncovers new information about the officers who killed breonna taylor and raises more questions about that botched no-knock raid. "the reidout" continues after this. raid. "the reidout" continues after this
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response to russia's aggression in ukraine. the alines is ready to seize this historic moment. that process is stalled for now, however, over objections from just one of nato's 30 members, turkey, but today president biden suggested turkish concerns could be overcome. if that's the case the two nordic countries' membership could be finalized within months significantly expanding nato's border with russia and underscoring the russian dictator's blunder. the leaders of the two countries are headed to meet president biden tomorrow. joining me michael mcfaul. thank you for beak here. let's talk about the turkish objection. their objections were about the pkk which is the kurdistan workers party which they consider to be a terrorist organization and they believe they're being harbored by countries like sweden. especially sweden and want export bans on some of their arms sales to turkey lifted.
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do you see those things getting resolved quickly enough to get these two countries into nato? >> i do. i think erdogan is just trying to use his leverage while he has it but he's the outlier. no other country objected. i think it will be very difficult for him to say it's not in the security interest of nato to have these two countries join, finland and sweden and so i suspect this is a negotiating tactic that eventually will be resolved. >> it just really does speak to the huge error that putin made, you know, his beef was against nato being too close to his borders and being too big and too threatening. now there will be two more members of it and i wonder how that, you think, resonates inside of the kremlin. >> well, you're absolutely right. in fact, i would go all the way back to 2014, the first time he invaded ukraine. that's when he breathed new life into nato. nato was not in good shape
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before 2014 and then it had rough years in the trump era and now with this second invasion, not only has he brought two members in, i mean, you know, stalin didn't bring these countries in, they weren't afraid of stalin, they're afraid of putin. think about that for a minute but secondly the alliance as a whole is way more unified, has a sense of purpose in ways that it didn't before this invasion so if the objective was to weaken nato, he's done exactly the opposite. >> yeah, he didn't get the president that he wanted in the united states that would have pulled them out of nato. >> that's for sure. >> for sure. so there is a russian soldier who is on trial now, i believe he's pleaded guilty to allegedly shooting a 62-year-old man in the head through a car window. he faces up to life in prison. the ukrainian government is looking into 10, 700 war crimes involving 600 suspects. what does it do inside the minds of putin and his cronies to have
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one of their soldiers plead guilty to war crimes? >> well, i forgot to answer your first question about the kremlin and nato because i think these two things are intertwined. i think they're going to look at the nato expansion thing and blowing it off formally, lavrov said no big deal but informally i think they're raising doubt about this strategy within his inner circle and most certainly in the second and third tier circles people that i talked to nobody thinks this war is a good -- has been a good idea for russia's security or economic interests and now layer on to that this notion, this notion, this accusation now proven with a conviction already today where -- a plea, that he pleaded guilty, i should be careful, raises the specter that russian soldiers are going to have real trouble in getting out of ukraine if they're captured and convicted. the ukrainians are playing this very seriously. they've got the documentation. they brought in international experts to do it and i think
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they're dead serious about trying to convict these criminals. there are rules of war and the russians from the ukrainian position have violated them. >> i mean, speaking of violating, this tragic story of this steel plant in mariupol where now russia has essentially kidnapped the fighters inside of that plant defending their country and are now essentially trying to call them terrorists. what do you think happens to these men? >> i don't know, joy. it's a scary moment. nobody wants to be captured by the russians and then accused of being terrorists. they're trying to play this quid pro quo game what aboutism comparing different methods of fighting that are different but trying to say they're the same and you need to remember that in russia propaganda if you watch russian television, they've been saying that this is the center of naziism, mariupol and these fighters so it plays into that
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propaganda and i want to underscore completely falsified propaganda narrative but that i think even makes it harder for there to be, for instance, a soldier swap that i think the ukrainians would be interested in doing. >> yeah, and i will note even on russian state tv one of their military analysts admitted the whole world is against us so that maybe is a crack in the propaganda that's being seen by russians. >> i'm glad you underscored that. that interview and i'm going to tweet it out so that people can see it, that was shocking and maybe the sign that there are some cracks. >> yeah, let us hope so. ambassador michael mcfaul, always a pleasure. thank you very much. cheers. still ahead, suddenly everybody is talking about the great replacement theory but this racist trope has been baked into the american experience for a very, very long time. everything old is new again after the break. s new again after the break.
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common. that disdain for the other goes way back. it's even been chronicled in american literature. back in 1925, f. scott fitzgerald's classic novel "the great gatsby" was published. in it the antagonist tom buchanan does his own version of the great replacement theory bemoaning the migrants coming to replace real americans, so concerned he recommends his friends check out a book based on a real-life 1920s novel that warned immigration would alter the composition and destroy the country. civilization's going to pieces. i've gotten to be a terrible pessimist about things. have you read "the rise of the colored empires" by this man goddard. it's a fine book. the idea is if we don't look out the white race will be utterly submerged. it's all scientific stuff that's been proved. "the great gatsby" cam out a year after the immigration act of 1924 mandated quotas for less
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desirable immigrants from eastern europe and excluded asian and north african migrants altogether. the senator who sponsored it wrote in "the new york times" the last waugh passed with the goal of making a more homogeneous nation closely knit by common purpose. the 1920s, the jazz age came smack in the middle of one 6 america's most violent anti-black anti-immigrant period, of moms like america first and the kkk ran rampant. and that 1924 immigration act, it gained new fans during the trump era including stephen miller, trump's ideas man. everything old is new again. in 2017 modern day nazis took to the streets in charlottesville chanting, jews will not replace us. their brazen deadly rally is what spurred joe biden to run for president against donald trump calling it a battle for the soul of the nation. president biden referenced charlottesville again as he comforted those families in
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buffalo and later in the afternoon while attending an event to celebration asian american native hawaiian and pacific islander month, those who also saw upticks in hate crimes he called out to the great replacement theory and those who peddle it. >> we have to not only talk about how we're going to end the hate but who is responsible for generating it? who is responsible for generating it? look, i've said many times, hate can have no safe harbor in america and every person deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. but, you know, you have folks on television stations talking about the replacement theory. scaring the living hell out of people who don't have a whole lot of emotionalable taken advantage of on the internet and other means about how we'll be overtaken. >> biden is alone in calling out
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those pushing replacement theory for political gain and profit. chuck schumer joined in the call to take that racist fearmongering off our social and cable media and schumer named names calling on rupert murdoch to get his house in order that includes tucker carlson whose nightly hate fest writes the script for republican politicians and all too many republican voters. >> anchors like tucker carlson and, in fact, all maga republicans and all voices of influence across the political spectrum should not just condemn racial violence, not just announce write supremacist views like replacement theory but further refuse to give these false and racist conspiracy theories a platform whatsoever. >> well, stay tuned after the break to find out what majority leader schumer is trying to do about fox news. back in a sec. back in a sec.
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if you got a parent or grumpy uncle captured by fox news it's quite addictive for those into it. the most watched cable news network in america. it's highly successful and it's also a daily smorgasbord of white grievance hysteria and factual inaccuracies. it's done by design. the murdoch family led by rupert
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murdoch profit handsomely off it which explains why his eldest son lachlan personal rejected the anti-defamation league's request to fire tucker carlson. the primetime great replacement promoter is their biggest cash cow and should shock no one that only three days after the deranged great replacement murdered ten people and after a daylight pause to figure out what the network's collective response would be, tucker went right back to defending it. >> the democratic party has decided that rather than convince you, people who are born here that their policies are helping you and making the country better and stronger, they will change the electorate. >> yesterday majority leader chuck schumer sent a letter to the fox corporation demanding that the murdoch empire immediately cease the reckless amplification of the so-called great replacement theory on your
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network's broadcast. naturally that didn't happen. with me now, adviser to the dnc and d triple c. my friend and colleague lawrence o'donnell said why waste so much time on the people in the makeup at fox when the real problem is the boss, you know, let me play you what former australian prime minister malcolm turnbull had to say about someone he knows well and that's rupert murdoch. >> what they have created is a market for crazy. they've become unhinged from the facts that is now basically they've worked out that you can just make stuff up. murdoch has to take responsibility for what he has done. bottom line is, they enjoy the power. >> it's not just fox news. define american, our friend san antonio vargas talked about this great replacement network that studies have shown exist. "the new york post" is in there,
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fox news, prager university, fair, but two of those things are part of the murdoch empire. your thoughts? >> well, what fox news and what rupert murdoch has done is take this absurdity of replacement theory, wrapped in their own hypocrisy and beta o'rourked it in lunacy and have this outsized sense of entitlement they feed off from their audience which creates this story line of delusional grievances that has resulted in violence that foments violence that nurtures violence. we saw it on january 6th. we've seen it in buffalo. fox news is basically the recruiting tool now, the propaganda recruiting tool for the domestic terrorist cell that is today's republican party. when you traffic in these extreme viewpoints and you campaign on the central premise that democracy should be thrown out, that people that are black, brown, minorities, immigrants, poor should be treated as others
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that are less than the rest of us, when you traffic in that and violence happens you have blood on your hands. you are a part of that and that is the legacy of rupert murdoch, not just in america but in the world. >> the thing is, back in the day before when you were a republican and you used to advise that other great replacement advocate steve bannon, he was pushing camp of the saints which is literally great replacement theory that europe will be overrun by muslims and muslims are -- an existential threat to white people. that kind of thing has now become standard. that was like a fringe tome. it is now standard on fox news every night to the point where the associated press did a poll with norc and they released a study called immigration attitude, among those ranked high in con spirit ra torial thinking 42% said they are trying to replace native born americans and they're losing influence to immigrants 8% of
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low conspiracy thinkers and the belief in replacement theory is much higher among viewers of oann, newsmax and fox. so there is no -- there is statistical proof that they their viewers are the ones most likely to believe this stuff. >> well, and this is what happens when an entire political party cedes their public square to this toxic brand of idiocy and racism. this is the end result of that. and that's why i say, you know, a lot of this has been normalized right before our eyes. i go back to remember when donald trump referred to immigrants from s-hole countries and how in the republican world that was met with laughter as a joke, shrugging their shoulders, it's just how he talks, no big deal. but really what that was was a smoke signal to their audience to their voters to their base that it's okay to talk like that to think like that, that brown people are indeed drug dealers and rapists coming from the border to invade all of us.
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we have watched this normalization in slow motion happen before our eyes for the last five years and now it is culminating with violence and mayhem and it's just the beginning, joy. it is only going to get worse as long as the republican party and their leadership double down on it. >> absolutely. it's a national security threat. it's not just that they're trying to ban books and history, they're pushing a dangerous conspiracy theory that breeds violence and rupert murdoch won't do a damn thing about it because he's making money off it. we'll see what happens with this letter schumer sent. probably nothing. next year marks two years since the killing of george floyd. today thomas lane, one of the former police officers charged in connection with floyd's death pled guilty to a state charge of aiding and abetting second degree manslaughter. the state and lane's attorney recommend a sentence of three years. lane had been convicted in a federal trial in february of violating floyd's civil rights.
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he has not yet been sentenced in that case. new reporting about the night police killed breonna taylor. part of a blockbuster expose on the louisville police department by vice news. the correspondent who is breaking that story joins me tonight. we'll be right back. tonight. we'll be right back. ♪ we could walk forever ♪ ( ♪♪ ) ♪ walking on ♪ ♪ walking on the moon ♪ ♪ some ♪
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since breonna taylor was shot and killed in her louisville
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home after a botched police -- broke down her front door after midnight. the 26-year-old emergency room technician, who wasn't even the target of the raid by shot five times. to this day, none of the officers have been held accountable for killing an innocent unarmed woman in her own home where she's supposed to be safe. the only charges ever brought were against one officer accused of endangering a neighboring white couple, when shots were fired into their apartment, even then he was cleared. no charges were ever filed regarding her black neighbor's. in a -- vice news has uncovered new information about a host of illegal activities, allegedly perpetrated by louisville police officers, including sexual assaults, and pocketing cash from police seizures, including taking money from breonna taylor's home after they killed her. >> when you say crooked people what do you mean? >> keeping drugs, keeping money, and things they seized off of the defendants. they would tell me --
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for them going to do, it everybody gets money is split evenly. most i've ever seen him get was $12, 000, they split most of the money amongst themselves. >> so they only reported some of the $5,000. >> i don't know if any of it got reported. >> vice correspondent roberto ferguson joins us now, how widespread was this? this sounds like a theft ring. >> i mean, based on our reporting, i'd say that it was very widespread within the narcotics unit. we've spoken to about two dozen people whose homes have been rated, who say that more money was taken and police reported, we've identified several different instances, and through this reporting it's our understanding that this isn't a matter of like one or two bad apples, people who were doing this, former narcotics, officers current narcotics officers in the department. it is more of something like a dozen narcotics officers, whether we're doing this or must have known about this,
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because people that they were working with were executing warrants, seizing money, and then reporting less, in many of these cases, then was taken from their homes. >> were any of the officers that were involved in killing breonna taylor doing this? >> what we know is that the informer that you saw in this clip, who is describing what happened in a separate raid, the day after breonna taylor's raid says that they were told by a member of fred hankison's former unit, who is famously part of this raid. the $15,000 was found in that apartment that night. they say they don't know what happened to it, but we spoke to kenneth walker, breonna taylor's boyfriend who is at the apartment that night. he says he was aware of $1,000 at the apartment that went missing after the raid. and on top of that, the day afterward, in a jail phone call, breonna taylor's ex marcus
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glover, who's at the center of this investigation that led to these rays. said that he'd given breonna about $15,000 this is $18,000 plus another $6,000. i think it's important to point out that there were three separate investigations into what happened that night, to buy lapd and won by the attorney generals office. despite -- jail call recording, where the money was mentioned, there never seems to have been an attempt to figure out if there is money there, and if so who took it. >> and daniel cameron, who is ostensibly the leader that investigation was supposed to get to the truth. he is now running for governor, that's interesting. but let's talk about these other allegations that include sexual misconduct, or essentially extorting six out of defendants? >> the pattern that we found, and that we've seen through, we've come through hundreds of
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internal documents, most of them which the public hasn't previously seen, interviews of officers, we've spoken to victims, is using the power the police officer has to hold charges over someone's head, for instance after they've arrested a woman, to solicit sex from them. whether that's, any sort of any sort of sexual activity, and these women, some of whom we've spoken to have expressed how effective a police officer can be in wielding that power, because they have immense control over whether a charges, brought weather a citation is handed in, and even what happens in the courtroom afterward. >> is there any evidence that the departments, internal affairs, or daniel cameron, who is again running for governor, is trying to investigate any of this? >> the police department has fielded many complaints against police officers, and i don't
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think it's fair to say that they haven't tried to investigate. what's our reporting, we believe has shown, to investigate these complaints especially when the initial complaints come in. they haven't brought officers in for interviews, they've waited to request -- they've allowed some of these back actors to continue happening unchecked, and in some cases victimize more women. >> did you find evidence in your reporting, that other officers who might know what comes down to a crime ring or theft ring in the apartment have felt intimidated or too afraid to come forward. i would say with great certainty that there's a lot of pressure internally not to speak to the press. i'd say that many of our sources are current and former lapd officers.
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i know that this afternoon after the press started coming out, an email was sent to the entire department by the public information officer, reminding everyone that is against policy to speak to the media, and that all requests should go through them. so absolutely, there's a lot of pressure to not speak to people outside. there are people that really wants to, internally. but i think that part of this is a system problem, a big part of this is a system problem. >> and let me ask you this, because we know the police departments around the country have chosen to settle, and use taxpayer money -- unarmed people. have there been attempts in these cases to settle with people who've had their money stolen, to cover it up that way? >> well, in a local system, they're pleading illegals are very common, this is true around the country. it's true and sexual assault cases, involving police
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officers, it's true in someone's home is rated. and the plea deals and up, i think, allowing for pretty lenient sentencing of officers, and for things not to be found out by the public. >> great reporting, roberto friedman, you can see more of his terrific reporting on this two part investigation to tonight and tomorrow -- all in with chris hayes starts now. tonight on all in.haye the danger for american democracy that hasn't fully sunk in yet. >> and he freedom loving americans in the house tonight? >> tonight, the threat the republican nominee for governor in pennsylvania could pose, and why democrats may be underestimating his chances of winning. then, as madison cawthorn exits congress, and doctor oz clanks to home, how trumpism, not trump, is winning elections. plus, congressman jamie raskin on the escalation of the

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