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legitimacy of the last election. and then finally they cast bids to join nato and fight against russian aggression. ! hello there, welcome to "meet the press daily. the last 24 hours have seen a full court press from the white house. his allies on a kitchen table issue that is suddenly a huge problem. the shortage of baby formula. that kitchen table is getting crowded for issues of concern. gas prices, inflation, recession, all concerns as well. the white house invoked the defense production act to compel suppliers to up resources for formula manufacturers. they're trying to air lift formula into the counry from overseas. there is plenty of action on can
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capitol hill as well. they passed $28 million in emergency funding to boost formula supply. that's on the way to the senate. other lawmakers are pitching solutions as well. you think we need a strategic formula reserve, right? they are moving now but this problem has been bubbling for months on a contamination issue shutting down a key plan for formula back in february. robert califf testified this morning that he hopes the plant will be back online in two weeks. practically speaking relief is still weeks or months away giving these comments from the surgeon general earlier today. >> is it next week? is it next month? when will they be able to walk into the walmart or cvs and see formula on the shelf? >> we anticipate willy that people will see increasing amounts of formula on the shelf
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because of multiple paths. bringing product in from abroad. >> so several weeks, okay. >> folks, it is always a welcome sign to see washington move with ug si to show it is awear of a problem but the problems right now are filing up, inflation, gas prices, the economy, the border, and more and pardon the pun, but the administration's formula in responding to all of those at times has been more reactive than proactive. we have josh and allie joining us. we went from a white house joining us realizing this could be a passive pr problem to let's throw everything at this. and it does raise the question why this issue and not on some of these other issues. let's focus on baby formula. what flipped the switch? >> certainly the white house saw
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the growing pressure, particularly from democrats in congress who were saying that what the federal government did so far was unsufficient. the white house is racing to show they're taking whatever dramatic steps they can muster even if a lot of this is, you know, the supply chain that is outside of the control of the building behind me. so these two major steps announced last night, one invoking the defense production act that is aimed at the ingredients that go into baby formula. and the biden administration wants to make sure if you're seeing a soil product, or a milk byproduct, to a lot of different buyers, that they get their hands on the ingredients first before other products that may not be as critical. also new details in the last few minutes about this air lift that the u.s. government is going to
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do from other countries. administration officials telling us that basically the u.s. government is going to take over the air transportation component of this and that is all. basically the manufacturers will identify okay, here is a factory over seas where we have extra supply. the u.s. will then commission an airplane to land at a near by airport, pick up that formula, fly it to where ever in the u.s. the manufacturer says it should go, and then there will be an fda inspection on the ground to the united states. so there is a lot of steps there between that announcement and getting some of that formula on to shelves. so it could be a few more weeks. >> what is the explanation for -- they knew in february that a plant had to shunt down to where we are today. >> they have owned this, is someone not sounding the alarm loud enough? what is the west wing's
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explanation for the lack of urgency until now. >>. >> thaw feel like they have to announce as soon as it was clear there was a problem at that plant in michigan if is broader than just did a particular agency drop the ball. this is the way our supply chain works in the u.s. for baby formula. you have four manufacturers, it is heavily regulated and when you have an issue there is a domino effect that can throw off of the rest of the supply chain. i asked officials a few minutes ago about this call from senators murray and casey for there to be some type of a baby formula czar. the white house not ruling out the possibility they could do that but their message is that we have taken significant action already including in the last several months and they feel like they do not need to appoint a new point person. >> i talked to some folks that
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think that the white house should had an inflation czar. a supply chain czar. and that person should have been in place and if it was baby formula would have fallen under that umbrella. there has been some hesitance on how forward facing they want to be, correct? >> yes, they don't want to own the issue when in fact it is broader than what the white house can specifically do. but they also do not want to appear before the american public to be flat footed five months before election day on an issue that is so central to the basic health and nutrition of families all over the country. >> josh letterman, thank you. on capitol hill, you have a lot of democrats worried about their majority and the november midterms and they want some change. at the end of the day it was a government failure. i'm not saying that, but how the
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industry is regulated, what was allowed to happen, is there ideas on how to keep this from happening again? >> yeah, one of the things we saw voted last night solves the current problem. as the more places come online, potentially foreign but also domestic, for sending this formula into the country, the fda has more people and more staffing capability to actually regulate, make sure it is safe, and ship it off to the shelves. the other thing voted on is making it so other manufacturers could go through the wicks
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program. yes there are only four period of timers in this space that dominate the market, but by diversifying the number of manufacturers, and a lot of blame is being placed at the fees of the fda. you have the agency here saying no specifics like why it was so long to regulate that plant in michigan, the abbott nutrition plant at the center of the controversy, but at the same time he was grilled by legislatures because the fda at the center of this problem when you consider what the government's response was. i think the other piece of it was that democrats have not been shy at putting the blame at the feet of the government and thusly the biden administration. senator patty murray says she
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gives everyone an f on this. >> i give everyone an f on the entire spectrum of this from the company itself, the fda oversight, nobody focused on this like they needed to and it needs to have someone at the white house who is coordinating all of these responses to get this product back on the market so they have the assurety not just that they can buy it but it is safe when they buy it. >> we scooped that letter who you saw there demand a czar for this. but at the same time as they try to make this the centerpiece of midterm messamessaging, the whi house will have to respond at some point. >> alley on capitol hill, thank you. we want to play part of today's
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hearing on the formula shortage. this is where house appropriations committee chair asked the fda administrator about a whistle-blower complaint that led to the february recall. >> most concerning charge is the integrity of the organization was compromised. once that is compromised, the question is how can you trust any systems in place. >> yes, and who ever looked at that report felt there was no need to respond. that is a dir election of duty. congresswoman, you seem to be getting at what a lot of us are
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trying to get at. this feels like government bureaucracy that failed here. we have good intentions, but all of a sudden it is we have somehow gotten into bed with the industry to create the possibility of this crisis. is that what we're victims of here? >> it is not a political issue, first wonderful to be with you today, chuck. the issue here is one of supply and of safety. you have a manufacturer, abbott nutrition in mitigating circumstances who knowingly put on the market a contaminated product, an infant formula they knew was contaminated. the reports, they falsiied reports. they did not test properly. they gave false information when
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the fda did audits. so you an industry where the four major manufacturers have almost 90% of the markets. when you move with abbot with a recall, you take that off of the shelves and what you have is a shortage. so fast forward to that whistle-blower that sent a update in october. they do not interview the whistle-blower until december. in january fda goes back in and find tratss of contamination and in february there is a recall. the fda dragged it's feet and
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didn't do what he was supposed to do. he had a manufacturer who, when you have at least two infants, chuck, who have died. today they can't find a supply, and if there is something they're concerned, our job is move to quickly on all fronts. they want to get the product on the shelves, but let me just say one thing about the product. i'm very clear with where i think we need to be. we have seven countries that provide infant formula who manufacture it. they are fda approved. those are the countries we should be going to and not just randomly, randomly, accepting applications. people do not have to have the
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fda approve. and let me say the $28 million, that money is mostly for the fda in terms of the inspection team. they only have nine people looking at all of the infant formula submissions. but there is a bigger issue in fda and that is the issue of leadership. it is a structure problem and they need to do something about having a person there, not a czar, sorry, i'm not for a czar, but i want the fda a regulatory agency to have someone overseas for food safety. >> i don't want to go down the rabbit hole of how long it took to get an fda commissioner. don't forget. you went through that whole timeline and what i'm thinking in my head is wait we went through this trouble to get a fda head. i want to set that aside.
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and you know i asked this yesterday. we have a strategic oil reserve. in 2015, we had a strategic raisin preserve. i'm not making that up. we should have had a strategic formula reserve. is that something we're going to make sure, if we have this con sol dated market, are we going to make the government purchase enough to create a reserve. >> two or three points, chuck. one for years and i have been working on food safety for many, many years. what we need in my view is a single food safety agency, that's not the case with the fda. separated out from the drugs. >> yeah, senator durbin and i
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introduced that a long time ago. i'm going to introduction legislation, tight n that up with the strategic stockpile, and look at how we can add food to that issue. we're also going to be clear in terms of the defense production act. i'm worried that we will get into the fall and the ingredients issue may become an issue. we're told in terms of the defense production act that we're going to have to amend it. but the under lying piece of this, chuck, is that we cannot have a consolidated industry. you can't have a sole source contracting because when something like this happens we're in a crisis.
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>> i was just going to say, it's not like this is a surprise. we had it at the start of covid, and we had it when johnson and johnson had vaccine ingredient issues. a plant went down and then it set that back. it seems like we have yes, a supply chain, but how we allow it'd to be used, the just in time aspect of this, is that correct? >> i think that is right. i think we have allowed industry, we don't produce infant formula at the federal level, but we have an education that is the regulatory authority and they have to lay out the requirements that that manufacturer has to follow in order to be able to enter into commerce in the united states. that has to be the clarity around that issue that is fundamental to what we're talking about today, but immediately, chuck, we're
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moving, we have to move, we want that supply on the shelves so parents are not up all night worrying about whether or not they're doing that job as a parent and making sure their child is safe. >> i think the only thing we have to worry about now is hoarding. congresswoman, if folks take away just one thing from our conversation, i hope that it is folks looking more into your bill on separating food and drug from that agency and creating that. makes a lot of sense considering what we have been watching. thank you for your time. >> thank you so much, good to be with you, chuck. up next the big senate rice in pennsylvania. we're in double overtime it appears because we're going to be going to a recount. how well the gop handled these close results including the leading republican, these days, mr. donald trump. >> later, after months of focusing, president biden shifting to asia and tensions with china.
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welcome back, the results of this primary vote is too close to call. we are still only at 98 pakistan -- 98% of the vote if it is likely that this lead will continue to spring. most ballots are mail in and we know david mccormick over performed. trump called on his candidate to declare victory yesterday and
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deal with the consequences later. so how they deal with this close of a vote and a potential recount. a redo in 2020 end up being in trump's interest. something that i think a lot of washington republicans are quite nervous about. dasha burns is joining us now. what are you learning? >> i'm feeling total 2020 deja vu here. we still don't know the results largely due to mail in ballots. so let me walk you through what
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is happening now. we have mail ins and day of votes to count still largely due to issues with memory sticks. these four scanners are from delaware county where memory sticks malfunctioned and they're scanning them again. behind them, these folks, they are counting the mail in ballots. they have to put the envelopes through these slicers twice. there is a envelope that getting mailed in and a secrecy sleeve. then they unfold them, they're preparing them to get scanned. . they are making sure they're
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done. this is how it works. manual, tedious, and nothing wrong with the process but it takes some time. this is a few places where the workers cannot touch them until 7:00 a.m. on election day in is why it is taking a little time here. the acting secretary of state here in minnesota just held a press briefing today and she talks about the challenges that election workers are facing. here is what she said. it is especially disturbing that they come from those with a sworn duty to perform our democratic process. the november election in pennsylvania like every election since was free, fair, and secure. it can harm our democracy and
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voter confidence in the election process. >> that was our senate testimony from today. this entire process is likely going to have to happen again because there is very likely going to be a recount and it could get ugly. they are not going to go down without a fight. >> that was a ter roughic and transparent report. if folks are wondering why they are not handled until election day, the republicans refused to change the law to allow the them to open the envelopes before election day. pennsylvania didn't want to do that, cay joss what we have farce the count is concerned. thank you. >> still to come, a redistricting fight in new york has they turn some of the
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pit politicians against each other all other the place. potentially it could embroil sean patrick maloney. he is being -- he is urging his colleague to run in a different district leaving congressman richie torres of a district he represents that won desightively in 2020. outrageous. joining me now, a new york state reporter, this is what i want to understand. how likely is this that a judge drew, basically after rejecting the constitutionality of the state pass map, how likely is this map going to be set in stone? well, judging by the congressional members actions,
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it seems pretty likely that maybe not this exact map but something very close to it. you saw a special map there by a judge appointed expert by the name of jonathan on monday. he pout out hispreliminary map. that did get a lot of input. so so you can members and candidates just declaring very quickly what district they want to run in even though, as you said, it's not final. >> walk me through what is of the state legislatures map, what specifically, which part of the redraw did this judge feel violated the spirit of what
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reapportionment should look like? >> so the judge that is overseeing the redrawing of the map here is patrick mccallaster. the lowest level state court in new york. he is a republican, he ruled on two things. one that the state legislature's maps that were drawn entirely were gerrymandered. they had a process for drawing lines this year that was put into place and it essentially delegated that to a commission that had an equal number of democrats and republicans. they could not come to an agreement, the republicans wanted one thing, the democrats wanted another, they sent one set, they were supposed to send
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a second set and they never did send another set of maps so the democratic legislature drew the maps on their own, and mccallaster, the mid level appeals court, all run by democrats ruled that was unconstitutional, did not follow the process, on top of the maps being democratically gerrymandered. >> you did a terrific job laying that out. you should do tutorials on this. how likely is it a two-year map only? >> i mean it could not be a possibility of being in place by this year. then there is a challenge on a voting rights act. the members of the black community that are angry that this map cracks apart some black
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neighborhoods. so there is a possibility that you could see a lawsuit after the map is finalized. that a federal lawsuit that challenges the state-court drawn maps, and maybe you see those tossed out and you see special elections. and they're going through with the state assembly and ta is a real possibility. >> well, i wondered that. i know north carolina and strekz -- texas have had to do new maps mid decade. i guess it's good for political consultants, perhaps bad for constituents. >> up next, president biden hosts the leaders of finland this week as they cast their bids to join nato. what it means in the fight of russian aggression. n aggression miss allen over there isn't checking lesson plans.
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welcome back, the senate just approved additional $40 million for said. the house welcomed the leaders of sweden and finland to the white house. today there is no question that nato is seeded and effective. it is still an indispenable alliance. it is about a revived nato with tools, resources, clarity, and conviction.
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nato's alliance is one of choice. it is a victory for democracy in action. >> whatever you think of president bidebiden, this is a legacy moment for him, the fact that he got finland and sweden to want to join nato will be quite the marker left on his administration. look, someone told me a story that the second that russia did this a lot of people thought that the price they could pay is sweden. how big of a change would this
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be snp. they decided very explicitly not to do this believing that after the cold war when they had abandoned their posture of neutrality, they would become good members of the union. all of this changed at 5:00 a.m. on the 24th of february where vladimir putin decided to invade ukraine and overnight these two countries with the military capabilities, the last two
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tries that are not members, it doubles the amount of russian border s to nato in well tell swoop. >> there is still one stumbling block, do you think that turkey is looking for a deal or doing russia's bidding? >> they are always looks out for their own interests. they have never been shy about expressing those interests. it is perfectly happy to be the lone outstanding voice when it comes to organizations that work on consensus and they have legitimate conditions for what they're saying. there are questions about past behaviors.
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also a willingness to work out differences with turkey in the coming days and weeks. turkey will get what they want, and nato will get what they need which is finland and sweden as members. >> it seems now if you. >> ukraine is not using that, that possibility aside, how do you not let ukraine in if they wanted >> yeah, i'm not sure how you say no, if ewe not a member of nato you may be attacked. that is the lesson that finland and sweden learned.
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presumably a lesson of sweden and saying okay, the time has come for us to be members of nato and for them to say yeah, that's probably the right thing to do. >> ten years ago you could have an annual conference. we answered that question about nato's relevancy. >> is there something of an alliance that should be modelled or put together or maybe it is a nato expansion, too, that thinks about confronting a more aggressive china. >> nato started the process of having discussions at the very least of what it's role might be to address china. for one reason, because china is already in europe. not militarily. there are times when the military forces have been in the
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baltic sea and the mediterranean. and there is in that space just from a transatlantic focus, for economic and technological and other reasons as well. don't think that nato will be the primary instrument to confront china, certainly not in asia, but it has to be and will be a partner for the activities they're having. the country that's have been strong supporters of nato. now for ukraine, similar to the expectations for the europeans when it comes to security in the endo-pacific. >> it won't be a surprise to me. that nato thing worked well on russian aggression, maybe we need to think about something when it comes to chinese aggression. anyway, former ambassador, thank
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so that is harder than trying to weave people together. g to weave people together. we need more partners in asia the way we had more partners facility help to ukraine. when you look at that region, right, we had the quad, and that is built out, a relationship with south korea that has some limitations because of the limits of what the troops can do. who are the other key platters that the president needs, that may be in play between us and china strategically. >> i think here is the important
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point, they are basically, each of the countries, are plugging into the united states. they are getting a lot of attention in that together so that australia is working with japan on a military basis so that what you're seeing a collective security set of relationships. not just bilateral but the u.s. you a lot of militaries and countries that work together. what the quad is is the beginning of a type of architecture or platform.
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>> let me bring up something here, philippines and indonesia, are they securing alliances? >> the change in the philippines which is an ally of the united states is the direction of their own politics. the reality in indonesia, and in countries in general, they like to be neutral. they like to keep their heads down. they don't want to get in the middle between the united states and china and they have enormous dependence on china in commercial area. what thea united states tries do with indonesia and the philippines and the other asian countries is frankly to get them to work together. china likes to go around and
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bully each of those countries individually. if we can gettr them to work collectively on issue like maritime borders where china claims the entire south china see, they'll be in the position not to be bullied and we would like to see the philippines maintain their democracy so there's a value piece to that as well. >> maybe it was a way of letting the north koreans know if you do this, we're not going to pay attention though have prioritized their program. they have been escalading the missile test.
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it's a humid catastrophe in waiting because the population is mall nourished. they're exploiting those missile tests. it's a lockdown. you have the government trying to offer assistance. you try to figure out a way to get the humanitarian crisis but dealing with the security crisis of without a lot of answers here. >> humanitarian crisis but you're dealing with the security crisis of another missile tell. it's a problem and challenge without a lot of good solutions. >> ben rhodes, good to get your perspective on this. thank you all for being with us this hour. our streaming show "meet the press reports", we dug into the tensions in the asian pacific region. catch that and all of our episodes are available on demand on peacock. and we'll be back with msnbc
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