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convinced this kind of crisis can be avoided again down the road. senator kirsten gillibrand live on capitol hill. in just a minute. also this hour, new details in pennsylvania, one candidate pulling in big money since election day. while the count continues on the gop senate race. and new reporting from team nbc on the fallout on that. look at this, more on wall street, the dow pretty flat. the economy is headed towards the "r" word -- recession. here in the next hour, the head of the economic council live from the white house. i'm hallie jackson in washington. we'll start in washington with the latest over the crisis on infant formula. let's bring in kristen welker and sala kapur.
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sala, let me start with you, about the recall that has led to the shortage talk about the response from lawmakers because some of them did not seem satisfied with the answers he gave. >> reporter: no, some certainly weren't, halle, the commissioner in the hot seat with the growing response about the infant formula crisis. a number of lawmakers on the panel asked various questions. democrats asked why the fda didn't act sooner on a whistle-blower complaint regarding issues with a particular michigan plant that was shut down that produces baby formula, that abbott laboratories and has contributed to issues with supply here. there was a rather testy exchange between congresswoman rosa deloire who controls the fda purse strings about the imports of infant formula with robert calla. i want to play that. >> we will not let infant formula enter the u.s. that is not safe.
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>> but these folks do not have to abide by your recommendation. it is a guidance. >> we have the authority to either let the product in or not. we have control over there. >> you in fact do not have the tangible evidence from these facilities that in fact their product is safe to be imported, that baby formula is safe. >> reporter: now, one of the things democrats are suggesting, hallie, is more funding for fda staff to tackle the issues to inspect with greater ease, some republicans on that committee including andy harris of maryland suggested money is not the problem that maybe the fda needs strong leadership. at least in an abstract sense to be able to tackle the issues better. >> kristen, let me go to you, there's been word of creating a baby formula czar, where does
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that stand? >> the josh lederman pressed on that very issue, will president biden appoint a baby formula czar. and the official didn't rule it out but effectively didn't say that is the focus right now. they said we don't have anything to preview on that today. that their focus is on ramping up production. as you know president biden announcing yesterday that he's invoking the defense production act, that wartime essentially move that will allow the administration to direct suppliers to fast track the ingredients, hallie, the ski ingredients needed to make formula, to get the ingredients to manufacture to get more formula on the shelves for parents. then, of course, they're also directing dod to get planes to get that formula back to the u.s. from other countries. what you heard robert caliph talking about to ensure that the formula brought here from overseas will be safe. hallie, that's the top question,
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that's what i've been pressing administration officials on now, since this was announced. how can they guarantee it's safe. they insist that the fda will not allow formula into the country if they have not signed off on the standards of that formula, hallie. >> welker, you talked about the operation formula, it is clear, it seems that the white house understands the political implications of a crisis like this obviously working incredibly quickly to get something done here. tell me what you're hearing from folks behind the scenes? >> reporter: well, i'm told that those flights, the goal, is to try to have them start taking off within days if possible. we'll have to see if that time line holds, hallie. i know you and i will be staying on top of that. but there is so much urgency to this. to getting this done. effectively, what's going to happen, these would be planes that would be contracted by the defense department. and the idea is to have them go to other countries where they have identified formula. as one administration official
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said it's about finding airfields and landing there that are close to the factory or the manufacturing facility. and then the formula gets loaded on to the aircraft and brought back to the u.s. so, again, the key here is the speed and trying to get this formula back on shelves. as quickly as possible. you talk about the pressure, hallie. we cannot overstate the enormity of the pressure that this president is feeling right now. we are, of course, in a critical midterm election year. you're dealing with the health of babies. and as we've been reporting, there have been more babies that have actually been hospitalized because of this formula shortage. so there could not be more pressure on this president and on this administration to take action. you add to that the anxieties that americans are feeling over inflation. high gas prices and it's really bubbling up. and adding to the urgency to really try to get something done. again, what is the time line? now robert callif will start to
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get back to normal perhaps within the next several weeks, we'll see if that happens. >> kristen welker, thank you so much. sahil sahil, let me get to you, breaking news in, a new subpoena here -- a new request, i should say, for a member of congress as the january 6th select committee is looking to speak to him about the situations that related to the days before january 6. tours, groups coming into the capitol. they're seeking more information about this, right? fill us in. >> reporter: that's right, hallie. the january 6 committee has sent a letter to congressman bari lowdermilk, from georgia, asking for his voluntary cooperation, this is different than the five members subpoenaed. this is simply a letter for voluntary cooperation. and specifically, the committee
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is asking him, for information, based on evidence that they say they've discovered about a tour that he led through parts of the capitol on january 5th, 2021. that was, of course, the day before that attack. i'm reading this letter right now. it just came in moments ago. but they note in the week following january 6th, members notified members on the outside group of the complex on january 5, and the suspicion some of the people who tried to attack the capital, successfully broke in and attacked the capital were trying to get a tour inside the capitol to plan the attack. this is a voluntary request. they're not making direct allegations of wrongdoing to congressman lowdermilk. they are saying please come and talk to us. we believe you have evidence, hallie. >> i want to highlight this piece here, the january 6th committee, liz cheney and other
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members on that committee, say members of congress including the republicans in the house administration of which congressman lowdermilk is a member claims you reviewed footage from the days before january 6 and determined there were no large tour groups or with maga hats on that directly convicts that denial. the select committee is basically saying to the congressman, we have evidence what you said what the committee members said what the republican committee members said is not true. do we know anything more about what that evidence might be? >> reporter: it's not entirely clear, hallie, but that would explain why this request is coming in so late. just about brun month before the committee expects to begin public hearings. members of congress, a number of them have denied suggestions of wrongdoing. denied wrongdoing that they were connected with groups involving the january 6 attack. this indicates that the january 6 committee has good reason to believe that congressman lowdermilk has information in his possession. or at least was aware of certain
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things that are relevant to the investigate, if not, more pert tently knows people who are trying to get a tour of the capitol trying to plan the attack on the capitol on january 6. >> i don't know the answers to this, sahil, if i'm putting you on the spot, forgive me, do we know if lowdermilk has spoken publicly about the tour he took the day before the riot? >> reporter: i cannot tell you, hallie. >> this is not a subpoena, i should say not yet. we don't know if that is something that the select committee will pursue with this particular congressman. they have subpoenaed other members. where does that stand with the other five republicans on the screen, kevin mccarthy, jim jordan and others? >> reporter: right. we don't know if this particular request is going to result in a subpoena. we do know republicans, by and large, those five on the screen there have been rather defiant toward this committee. house minority leader kevin
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mccarthy has given no indication that he was going to cooperate with this subpoena. i recently asked him are you worried about the precedent it sets, what if you're speaker next year and you try to issue subpoenas as part of an investigation, and people you subpoena don't cooperate with that? he ignored the question. he did not answer. there is significant precedent being set by this january 6 committee in terms of subpoenaing members of congress. particularly a leader of one of the two caucuses but it would also set a different precedent going forward, hallie. >> do you anticipate this topic, the idea of tours in the capitol and the days before the january 6th insurrection is something that will come up at the public hearings that the committee plans to hold in a matter of weeks? >> reporter: i think it's very likely, hallie -- i think security footage, a lot of evidence has come to light as part of the doj prosecution of cases involving january 6, that's been highly relevant.
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more and more has become knowledge. and evidence posted on social media profiles all of it i think, is of interest to the january 6 committee. some of the members on that committee has been hyping up the investigations that they're going to blow the roof off this house, as jamie raskin, one of the members of that committee said. they said it will be a big, big deal. we'll wait to find out. >> sahil kapur, i'd like you to stand by capitol hill. we have democratic senate member senator kirsten gillibrand. thank you for being with us. thank you for patience as we develop some developing news on the network. >> thanks, hallie. >> i'll start there with a new request from a republican member of congress as it relates to a discussion, more information, on tours prior to the january 6th insurrection? >> well, i certainly share the
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house committee's concern that if members of congress were giving tours to insurrectionists so they'd know how to break into the capitol, easily, that is a serious problem. so, i'm grateful that they're pursuing all the facts. >> what is your hope for the public hearings that are set to start in a matter of weeks. we talked about this with my colleague sahil kapur a moment ago. there is likely an attempt to lay out to the american people, a narrative, a story line, of what specifically happened. what do you want to see? >> look, what we have seen is the radicalization and the growing extremism, anti-semitism, white supremacists, neo-nazis, and this group, the insurrectionists on january 6 tried to take down the united states capitol and tries to subvert our electoral counts process. so it is an outrage this happened in america. and it is the responsibility of this house committee and oversight to get to the bottom of it and give facts and
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evidence to the american people. but i have broader concerns with how the radicalization of america is affecting all aspects of american life. you saw what just happened in buffalo where an 18-year-old was so radicalized that had so much hate in his heart that he drove over 200 miles to shoot black people in a grocery store. where you saw a dad buying a cake just for his 3-year-old boy. you saw a grandma stopping by to visit her husband in assisted living facility. this is a community that was torn apart by a murderous gunman who got these ideations through social media and platforms that aren't regulated. so, we need to have a reckoning with the american public and have a conversation about how the extremism in america has grown. and we have to name out white supremacists and supremacy as domestic extremist terrorists and how to have common sense oversight over these internet
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sites and internet framework so we can actually put people back in charge of their data and their privacy. that these companies have been able to monetize people's personal data to create algorithms that target the most vulnerable. to make them more extreme. whether convincing young girls to be bulimics or other disorders or convincing shooters like the gunman in buffalo, to kill black people because of false ideology and radicalism. and so, i think this committee in-house is essential. we have to get to the bottom of mom people were so hatefully radicalized to harm our democracy and to try to overtake the u.s. capitol. >> let me ask you to a follow-up, i want to get to baby formula but you brought up the shooting in your home state, the racist attack in buffalo. you mentioned the impact and role of social media companies if you will.
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we know new york governor kathy hochul has tried a plan to monitor the threats online, et cetera. do you see an appetite on the federal level, similar to the state level in new york to do something as it relates to social media companies and this type of horrific attack? >> well, at least three things we need to do. first we need a regulatory body. i have legislation called the data protection agency. and it would actually do these tough decisionmaking about how do you put people's privacy back in their hands. how do you define privacy. and how do you define harm that is caused by using your private data against you with these algorithms and with these search engines that are literally diving individuals who are vulnerable down rabbit holes that make them more extreme. they've monetized the way the internet does searches. you need a regulatory body. you need to pass that. second, we need common sense
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reform. it's outrage that an 18-year-old was not red flags and able to buy a gun legally. he should have had a note in his file that a background check would have made it impossible. and second, no person who is not in the military should be able to buy a military-style weapon that allowed this shooter to kill ten people in one minute. not only did police arrive on the scene in one minute but there was a security guard, a former police officer onsite to try to stop him. that's still not enough. these weapons are weapons of war designed to kill people quickly. these are the kinds of things we need to move forward legislatively. last, i sit on the intel committee. we need to give the fbi and security operation and homeland security more tools to go after white supremacists and extremists as domestic extremist terrorists. we now need to name it and give
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more resources to prevent attacks from this in the future. >> senator, i know you have a hard-out coming up with the schedule i have to get to the baby formula issue, something that you're passionate consuming much of washington. you introduced a new bill called the emergency formula act. this is on top of the house passing two bills last night to try and help this whole thing. your bill would allow imports from eu and canada come in. are you introducing this legislation, senator, because you don't think the white house's actions go far enough? >> well, i think the fda has failed from the beginning. first of all, this started with a whistle-blower in october. >> right. >> it took the fda until february to shut down abbott nutrition with the safety that results in the death and illness of infants. that's problem one. problem two, we need and the president has said, we will now
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use the defense production act to get these producers. these producers motivated by greed. and unwillingness to protect children first. and so he is now using the defense production act which can put government orders ahead of other orders. they can mandate an increase in production and they can get more food, particularly, baby formula on the shelves to meet this need. so he has started to do that which is something i called on two weeks ago. and then last, we have legislation now to change the women, infants nutrition program, so that mothers who are getting support for the baby formula can get access to more brands and also get access to more quantity. and then last, the bill you just mentioned, that would allow us to import more. there are allies that have the same safety standards as america. the eu, the uk, japan, other countries. let that -- those tariffs be reduced or eliminated. bring that supply in now.
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these are the immediate things we can do because unfortunately corporate greed is all too alive and well in america. and that's what started this problem in the first place. >> before i let you go, talk about this, the way the federal contracts or w.i.c. have been awarded basically they control all the formula for that program. that's part of the reason why this shortage is happening. does this mean it should change the way congressman dates making baby formula, is that something you want to see? >> it's something we certainly could investigate. i know the four companies have said, oh, no, we can't produce more because it's too expensive. not good enough. if america's children are at risk, they need to do more and that's what the product is going to do with the defense production act. >> senator, thank you for your time. thank you for your reaction for a lot of headlines happening. >> thank you. coming up more on that request from the january 6 committee from the republican member of congress as also today, just this afternoon, the
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oklahoma state legislature has passed a bill banning nearly all abortions from concession. one of the most restrictive laws in the country once signed into law. vice president harris is meeting there now. we'll take you live to pennsylvania where votes are still being counted up on more on what nbc news is just reporting on some of the fallout, coming up. t, coming up
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to pennsylvania now with new nbc news reporting out of that state. new reaction from republican leadership in p.a., worried that former president trump's endorsement choices can back fire both in this senate race and his own chances of running in 2024. we still don't know the results of that gop primary vote. probably a recount. mehmet oz backed by donald trump of course barely ahead. listen, basically a tie, a difference of 1200 votes against david mccormick who is endorsed
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by the like of former secretary of state mike pompeii mow and ted cruz. who ever wins this primary is going to end up facing john fetterman, the current lieutenant governor, $1.6 million in a day. i want to bring in nbc news correspondent dasha burns and alan, politico reporter. you've got a piece out on the word, the word cockamamy has come up, explain that, why? >> just the entire election process in p.a. with this primary was pretty unhinged from start to finish. you go back to the fall, the senate primary begins with trump's back pick sean parnell having to drop out of the race after he lost a custody battle with his estranged wife. she accused him of domestic violence. he denied those claims but then
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you've got dr. oz and david mccormick each vying for the endorsement. he ends up tapping oz. oz, a shocking endorsement because of his liberal views on everything from abortion to transgender rights, so on and so on. so, you've got the race here in the closing days and trump decides the hedge his bet by making endorsement in the gubernatorial race by making an endorsement, he endorses doug mastriano, probably the farthest right candidate in that race, someone that republicans were concerned about for different reasons than dr. oz. you've got republicans now in pennsylvania looking at the battlefield looking towards november, we've got a situation on the senate side that hasn't played out. on the governor side, mastriano, who they're concerned way tool divisive to win in november. >> and frustration on the part of republicans you're talking
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to? >> absolutely, some of them see trump coming in the last few days to give mastriano an endorsement, really after he's built a lead in the primary. they think he could have been better off endorsing someone like a lou barletta who with trump's backing would have been able to overtake mastriano. but barletta's backers and tom marino, specifically, they were stunned at the way trump handled the mastriano endorsement. apparently did not give barletta a call beforehand. this is one of the first people who came out in congress to endorse him in the first run. and marino made the comment that because of endorsement of mastriano, oz was adversely affected. they viewed that endorsements mastriano as an endorsement of barletta, too. and some of those ended up
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voting for dave mccormick. if you look at the counties that barletta is from, mccormick ended up pulling those out. it's way too close to call. >> and what you're hearing, dasha, from top u.s. officials in p.a.? >> yeah, down to the wire is right, hallie. what we're seeing is kind of deja vu, looking back at 2020, we had a similar conversation here a couple days after the election. we still don't have an outcome, incredibly close and the former president is trying to sow some doubt in this process. one thing that the secretary of state said the damage that this misinformation does to the democratic process. election workers like the folks behind me here, many of them after 2020, because of attacks they received in the wake of contentious reaction to that race. today, here's what they're doing and here's why, just to be clear, we still don't have a
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clear result yet. all day, we've been watching these workers try to open niece mail-in ballots. they're just about through all of them here in delaware county. they've been slicing envelopes open. they've been flattening, prepping them for get scanned. we're talking about an incredibly manual and tedious thorough process, hallie. just, for example, these lovely ladies behind me are doing transcription of ballots. some of these ballots got damaged. some of them got damaged going through the envelope opener, they're transcribing, essentially opening those ballots done by hands to making sure the count counts. >> reporter: the difficult thing about pennsylvania one of the things about mail-in ballots here is an unique state that does not allow election workers to such absentee ballots until the morning of election day. that's the first time they can start preparing them and start
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opening the envelopes. so we're waiting. dasha burns, allen smith, thank you to you both for that. we're going to talk about georgia's primary election on tuesday. turning to one-on-one with secretary of state brad raffensperger what it's like running the election and running his own campaign. that's later. standing by, leaders of finland and sweden as they push to join nato. we're talking about that in a minute. >> finland and sweden make nato stronger. not just because of their capacity, but their strong, strong democracies. pretty partr about keeping a healthy body. what goes on it. usually. and in it. mostly. here to meet those high standards is the walgreens health and wellness brand. over 2000 high quality products. rigorously tested by us. real world tested by you.
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the red cross says it's registered hundreds of ukrainian fighters who left that besieged steel plant with russian forces to interrogate the forces with what they call war crimes against civilians. this is coming as ukrainian are seeking war crimes against russia. joining me now mike memoli and nbc news correspondent erin mclaughlin. mike, i'll start with you, president biden is on his way to where you are. this critical trip to asia, while the focus in many ways for the president, right, split between what's happening with russia and ukraine and now finland and sweden. i know that the white house officials will always say things like we can walk and chew gum at the same time but this is a vivid example of that on the world stage. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, i think in both cases what the president, what his administration is aiming to highlight with this trip is the power of our alliances. first, you see that at the white house today. this is a process in terms of nato's membership accepting
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finland and sweden. that's really on a fast track as these things go this is a process that can often take years but as the president is saying today, finland and sweden more than meet the qualifications for qualifications. sending that charter on to congress for authorization. there's a second hurdle, turkey, you heard finland's president acknowledging that turkey has reservations accepting them into the alliance but he pledged that finland would be willing to support turkey's sovereignty and safety as required under article 5 of this. the president also calibrating his message to russia, that he's trying to make sure that they understand this is not meant to be antagonistic. let's listen to part of what the president had to say there. >> we're going to work together to remain vigilant, against the threats to our shared security and to deter and confront any aggression. let me be clear, new members joining nato is not a threat to any nation. it never has been.
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>> reporter: and now, as it relates to what -- the senate vote that would have to come up to accept sweden and finland into the alliance a good guide, potentially that vote in the senate on that latest ukraine assistance package. 11 republican votes against it. two-thirds of the senate needs to get this through. it's also interesting to look at what the president is announcing today through the state department before they even sign this new assistance package into law, another $100 million in howitzer equipment as well as radar equipment being sent to ukraine to help put it in their hands quickly to continue to support their defensive efforts. >> erin, you are on the ground there in ukraine. you spent the morning, i think in a village that's been decimated just outside of kharkiv. tell us about. >> reporter: that's right, hallie, let me first give you a sense of what's happening right now, i'm in the city of kharkiv which is the second largest city in ukraine, within the last 15
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minutes or so, we've heard a series of booms coming really in all directions far off in the distance. now ukrainian military officials say they have managed to push the russians back out of artillery firing range here in the area surrounding kharkiv, but that does not preclude potential missiles. so out of abundance of caution we have dimmed the lights at our live location. i put on protective gear just in case. because as we have seen, russian military activity, seemingly indiscriminate, not just here in kharkiv, but other areas cup as kyiv and devastated parts of mariupol. we were an hour outside of the city earlier today and we saw evidence of that, according to war crime prosecutors that had moved in and were going house to house, collecting evidence in this bombed out village at 11:00 at night. they say russian planes flew over the village early in march
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and dropped seven bombs on this tiny little village. this tiny little stretch of houses, ruining people's lives and livelihoods, killing three civil civilians, as well as one military personnel. now, they believe that the original target in this particular air strike was the local school. they believe that someone had tipped off the russians that ukrainian border guard were hiding in a basement of the school. and they dropped these bombs nearby. but managed to pretty much strike everything except the school. now, the prosecutor told me he believed this is a potential war crime. they're moving forward with this case. whether that be here in ukraine or some sort of international criminal court, going forward. but this is an example of just the dogged approach of ukrainian officials to pursue these potential war crimes, all across the country. they say they have some 11,000 investigations ongoing right now, hallie. >> erin mclaughlin, in ukraine,
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mike memoli in south korea. 11:30 p.m. where you are, erin, 4:30 a.m. where you are, mike. thank you for majoritying. joining me in oklahoma, legislators have passed an abortion bill to ban all abortions except to save the life of a pregnant woman. the bill is a step further in what we've seen in states across the country in restricting abortion after another abortion ban in the state in six weeks took effect earlier this month. oklahoma is now becoming another ground zero, if you will, for both anti-abortion and abortion access advocates. just in the last hour, you're looking at vice president kamala harris meeting virtually with abortion providers at the white house. here's what she said about the new bill in oklahoma, watch. >> it's outrageous and just the latest in the series of extreme loss around the country. several of the medical professionals joining us today are seeing the impact of these laws that are designed to punish
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and control women. >> for more on this i want to bring in nbc's josh lederman. josh, what was the white house hoping to see from the meeting. >> reporter: well, the goal of the meeting, hallie, was to keep focus on the issue of abortion rights as we await the supreme court decision if that what matches what was in the leaked draft would overturn roe versus wade. the vice president meeting virtually today with abortion providers specifically from states that have passed some of the most extreme abortion restrictions. states like oklahoma. like texas. missouri, kansas, as well as states that have passed those trigger laws that would essentially outlaw abortion the minute that roe v. wade is overturned, if it is overturned by the supreme court. the vice president using this meeting today as an opportunity to make an argument that we've heard from other white house officials. namely, that it may not stop with abortion rights. the vice president saying that
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in the u.s. is going to start taking rights away from people that have been granted, the next things to go could be things like contraception or same-sex marriage. the vice president saying in that meeting today that the strength of our country has always been that we move forward in the expansion of rights. and if this happens, it will be an extreme step backwards. but the reality is, hallie, there's not that much the white house can actually do about this issue. aside from continuing to call for congress to codify roe versus wade into law. something we've already seen is not going to happen. there's not going to be the votes for that. we awe that a vote that the vice president in her role as president of the senate resided over. but the one thing that the white house can do is try to keep this issue front and center for the american people as we get closer to the elections, as poll after poll show, that most americans do support keeping roe v. wade in place. hallie. >> josh lederman, thank you for that. coming up on the show that
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brad raffensperger. a significant tie between brad raffensperger and jody hice who president trump is backing. talk to me about what you're hearing from voters and what the election says more broadly? >> reporter: you know what's interesting, hallie, brad raffensperger's race is about the 2020 election to be clear, he does not want it to be about that. during the interview, he says he believes people have moved on from the election. we're talking about brad raffensperger the incumbent secretary of state. and jodie hice, and hice truly has made 2020 the central issue in the campaign. so, you know, if you look at the position that brad raffensperger is in now, it's an unique one,
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not only is he fighting for his political rights he's getting ready to oversee and knock down lies about the previous election. he told us in campaign stops around the state he has to essentially debunk lie after lie that they're parroting to do something that's advantageous to him and also have faith in georgia's election. take a look. >> are you in a place in this election where you are essentially forced to fight against former president donald trump? >> i'm leaning into the truth and the goodness of my fellow georgians and i think that will get me across the finish line. so raffensperger is in an uphill climb and there's a recent online poll, hallie, from am hearst that voters do not believe that president biden was legitimately elected and when you look at 2020 being the
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central issue in this campaign, plus the poll numbers and when you look ahead to tuesday and how tight this race is shaping up. >> blayne, and turning to the markets since the start of the pandemic. look at the close of the trading day. the dow down something like 230 points and everything is slightly in the red after that huge drop yesterday. what's with all of this instability, right? why is the market freaking out like this? concerns that things are tumbling into a bear market and that a recession, potentially could come along with it. i want to bring in from the white house brian dyess. great to have you back on the show. thanks for being with us. >> a snapshot of the markets is not a snapshot of the economy. these are two different things and what is your forecast long term for where we're headed? >> well, you're right.
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when we look at economic circumstances we look more broadly across the economy. the most striking feature of our economy today is its resilience and we've been through a lot and facing a lot and global challenges and the implications of the war in russia and ukraine and through all of this, we've seen a resilient american consumer and resilient business investment and a strong and resilient labor market and these are unique strengths that the american economy has and we are better positioned than anybody in the country to deal with the challenges in front of us and inflation is a serious challenge as the president said is its top economic priority and we're better to navigate through the challenges ahead. >> i hear what you're saying and i'm looking at, for example, pieces that are out in "the washington post" that, quote, recession risks are uncomfortably high and the head of goldman sachs, the ceo of wells fargo says there was no question, that's a quote that
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we're headed toward a downturn. these are people whose business, right? is to look at where the economy is headed and to make predictions about it. what do these guys see that the white house doesn't see? well, i'll leave those to the prediction business and what we see today is resilience in the american economy and we see real priorities of policies and steps we can take today to help to increase the likelihood that we make progress and that's our focus. we're less focused on predicting and more focused on building strength and resilience in this economy. so taking practical steps to make things more affordable to families at this moment where they are seeing uncertainty, that will help and helping to continue to reduce the federal deficit as we've seen historic record progress so far this year, that will help, as well. i can tell you, the most progress we make on those
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measures, the stronger and more resilient it will be. >> let's talk about something that a lot of folks are phil feeling the pinch on which is gas and drivers are seeing $4 or high are. you've been on the show to talk about opening, for example, the strategic oil reserves in the end of march and what the white house was trying to do to bring prices down. here we are now, middle of may. do you have more up your sleeve to help bring prices down at the pump? or at this point, do you believe that the opus is squarely on these oil companies? >> absolutely. it's a challenging situation and too many americans are headed to the pump and seeing prices that are too high. it's important to understand what's happening in the market. when putin invaded ukraine, russian oil came off the market and that reduction in supply drove oil prices up. unfortunately, it brought russian refinery capacity and turning oil into gas and diesel
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and other products off the market and we're seeing the reduction in refinery supply, as well in those prices. so our focus has and continues to be to take every step that we can to blunt the impact of those prices. as you said, we have taken historic steps to release reserves. there's no question that that has helped to blunt the increase and we are working with oil-producing countries around the world and this is a topic when the president is in asia this week and we will keep working on every angle that we can. in this case, the war in ukraine is having a concrete impact, but we're not going to stop just because this is challenging. we'll keep working and keep partnering with nations to figure it out. >> there's the crisis over infant formula, as you well know, and those bills getting passed in the house just last night. there are experts and we had senator kristin gillibrand on
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the show that points out there are four companies that are largely responsible for baby formula in this country. does the way that we look at that structure need to change? in other words, should the government as a whole be the way the system works in order to prevent something like this from happening again? >> i think this is an example of a problem that we had more broadly across the economy which is excessive concentration in the market and not only produces more risk for consumers and it produces real supply chain vulnerabilities and when it goes down we have the cascading supply chain expect that's what we've seen with this infant formula and we have tough questions to ask about how do we bring more competition into this market and more non-incumbents that can compete for a lower price and better service and more resilient service, as well. those are important questions we'll have to take on.
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in the very immediate turn we are focused on the steps to take to get more product out to the people that need it and it's why he directed the department of defense to use cargo airline, to move formula that is safe and outside the country into the u.s. as quickly as possible. so we're focused on these immediate action steps because we have an immediate challenge in front of us and absolutely, we have bigger issues to address about the market going forward. >> how immediate is the time line? when should families be getting access to formula? in a week? in a month. >> production is ramped considerably and the defense production act will make sure that the manufacturers, there's nothing standing in the way to get production going and now we have to work to get the product on to shelves where consumers need it and that will take a little bit of time, but we are on it and i anticipate that some of the product that is overseas will be coming in more quickly
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because of the operation 5 formula in the next week as well. >> brian deese, thank you for being on. >> more on the breaking january 6th news. the select committee asking for info from a member of congress, georgia republican barry lattermilk. this goes back a period of time right before the insurrection happened. i think tours were not aloud allowed at that point in time and groups had gotten access to the hallways and council member laudermilk said republicans didn't do that and pointed the finger at democrats and now the select committee said we have reason to believe that you yourself gave a tour the night before. >> yeah. that about sums it up, hallie.
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this is a case where the committee has found additional evidence where laudermilk fls giving tours. the capitol at the time was entirely closed due to pandemic precautions and i was working up here at the time and there was a skeleton crew of reporters and staff. very little going on up lear, but there were some of these scattered tours. this was not unclone that there were lawmakers that were on occasion even during that time period bringing people from their home activity rikts and home states and what the committee says here, we've been asking about these tours. loudermilk is on the administration of the house and they had said basically there's no such thing here and no evidence of that and nothing to worry about and we have enough evidence that there was a least one tour that you were involved in and we want to bring you in. there should be video evidence. most of the hallways including the one i'm standing in now should have video surveillance. the committee has a lot of the
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goods here, but they'll want to know who loudermilk was with and perhaps if there were other folks involved. the whole point is whether or not the folks who might have involved in the insurrection had inside information about the hallways, the tunnels and getting around in the capitol complex works. >> garrett haake, thanks, garrett. "deadline white house" with nicole wallace starts right now. ♪♪ ♪ hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. that alleged reconnaissance mission ahead of the january 6th insurrection, it's back in focus today in breaking news from the select committee. a brand-new letter from the committee just dropping in the last hour to republican congressman barry loudermilk of georgia which includes this accusation. we believe you have information regarding a tour you led through parts of the capitol complex on january 5, 2021. the committee
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