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happen? where in god's name is our backbone to the courage to deal with this and stand up to the lobbyists? it's time to turn this pain into action. for every parent, for every citizen in this country, we have to make it clear to every elected official in this country, it's time to act. >> president biden reacting after yet another mass school shooting in america. good morning and welcome to a special edition of "way too early" on this wednesday, may 25th. thanks for joining us a little early today. i'm jonathan lemire. we're going to start with the latest developments in this tragic story out of texas. at least 19 children and 2 teachers are dead after yesterday's shooting at an elementary school. the attack about 80 miles west of san antonio is now the second deadliest school shooting in the history of the united states. the texas department of public
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safety says there are more victims both children and adults who are in hospitals this morning. investigators believe the 18-year-old suspect shot his grandmother at her home then fled, crashing his truck in a ditch near robb elementary school just before noon central time. the grandmother is in critical condition. investigators say the suspect who may have been wearing some sort of body armor then entered the school and shot any students or staff who were in front of him. according to dps, a school resource officer and two police officers from the city fired at the suspect but had to get back up from a tactical team which ultimately shot and killed the gunman. dps says he was armed with, quote, some type of long rifle. a texas state senator says he was told by the texas rangers that the gunman bought two
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assault-style rifles from a store in evalde county on his 18th birthday, which was just over one week ago. nbc news has not independently confirmed that detail. we're beginning to learn the names of some of the victims. a family members tells our sister station in dallas that fourth grader uziyah garcia, age 9. one of the two teachers killed has also been identified by a family member as eva mireles. she was a teacher for 17 years, most recently to fourth graders. a short biography notes she loves running, hiking and biking. mireles was married and was a mother. killed trying to protect her students. president biden was on air force one returning home from his trip to asia when the massacre
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happened. the white house tweeted this photo as he spoke with texas governor greg abbott to offer assistance. and then last night, an emotional president, sad and angry delivered these remarks. >> i hoped when i became president i would not have to do this again. another massacre. uvalde, texas. an elementary school, beautiful, innocent, second, third, fourth graders. and how many scores of little children who witnessed what happened see their friends die as if they're in a battlefield, for god sake.
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they'll loathe it the rest of their lives. there's a lot we don't know yet. there's a lot we do know. the parents who will never see their child again. never have them jump in bed and cuddle with them. parents who will never be the same. to lose a child is like having a piece of your soul ripped away. there's a hallowness in your chest you feel like you're being sucked into it and never going to be able to get out. suffocating. it's never quite the same. it's a feeling shared by the siblings and the grandparents and the family members and the community that's left behind. as a nation, we have to ask, when in god's name are we going
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to stand up to the gun lobby? when in god's name will we do what we know in our gut needs to be done? this is 3,448 days, ten years since i stood up at a high school in connecticut, grade school in connecticut, where another gunman massacred 26 people, including 20 first graders at sandy hook elementary school. since then, there have been over 900 incidents of gunfires reported on school grounds. marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. santa fe high school in texas. oxford high school in michigan. the list goes on and on. the list grows. when it includes mass shootings like movie theaters, houses of worship as we saw just ten days
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at a grocery store in buffalo, new york. i am sick and tired of it. we have to act. and don't tell me we can't have an impact on this carnage. i spent my career as a senator and vice president working to pass common sense gun laws. we can't and won't prevent every tragedy but we know they work and have positive impact. when we passed the assault weapons ban, mass shootings went down. when the law expired, it tripled. the idea an 18-year-old kid can walk into a gun store and buy two assault weapons is just wrong. what in god's name do you need assault weapon for except to kill someone? deer aren't running through the forest with kevlar vests on, for
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god's sake. it's just sick. and the gun manufacturers spent two decades aggressively marketing assault weapons which make them the most and largest profit. for god sake, have the courage to stand up to the industry. time for those who obstruct or delay or block the common sense gun laws. we need to let you know that we will not forget. we can do so much more. we have to do more. our prayer tonight is those parents lying in bed, trying to figure out will i be able to sleep again? what do i say to my other children? what happens tomorrow? may god bless the loss of
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innocent life on this sad day. and may the lord be near the brokenhearted and save those crushed in spirit. because they're going to need a lot of help and a lot of our prayers. god love you. >> president biden lost his own young children to a car accident, buried another one as an adult. he speaks as movingly as any public figure about grief and did that yesterday. but we also saw a flash of real anger, channelling a nation's anger, about yet another shooting. and as you heard him say, we're only about ten days after a massacre in buffalo. ten people there gunned down while shopping for groceries at a supermarket. yesterday, more children at a school. and in the wake of yesterday's school shooting, texas governor greg abbott, senator ted cruz, and former president donald
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trump are all set to speak at a national rifle association conference in houston. the nra event is scheduled to begin this friday and will run through the weekend. houston is 287 miles from the school where this massacre occurred. senator john cornyn will not be attending the nra convention, but not because of the school shooting that happened in his state. a spokesman says he withdrew from the event because of an unexpected schedule change. governor abbott and senator cruz haven't responded to questions about whether they'll still attend, but senator cruz was asked about gun reform yesterday. here is what he had to say. >> there's no doubt we need to do more to keep children in schools safe. we know from past experience that the most effective tool for keeping kids safe is armed law enforcement on the campus. you know, inevitably when there's a murder of this kind, you see politicians trying to
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politicize it. you see democrats and a lot of folks in the media whose immediate solution is to try to restrict constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens. it doesn't work. it's not effective. it doesn't prevent crime. >> more of the same from senator cruz. should be noted his suggestion to keep schools safe was to put an armed guard there. there was an armed guard at that buffalo supermarket. that guard was shot down and killed. unable to stop the gunman. cruz's senate colleague chris murphy of connecticut took to the floor yesterday and pleaded with his republican colleagues to take action against gun violence. >> what are we doing? what are we doing? just days after a shooter walked into a grocery store to gun down african-american patrons, we have another sandy hook on our hands. what are we doing?
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even more mass shootings than days in the year. our kids are living in fear. every single time they set foot in a classroom because they think they're going to be next. what are we doing? this isn't inevitable. these kids weren't unlucky. this only happens in this country. and nowhere else. nowhere else do little kids go to school thinking that they might be shot that day. nowhere else do parents have to talk to their kids why they were locked in a bathroom and be quiet for five minutes in case a bad man entered their building. nowhere else but the united states of america. and it is a choice. it is our choice to let it continue. >> senator murphy mentioned
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sandy hook elementary school in his home state of connecticut. he's probably the most passionate voice on this issue. he will be a guest on "morning joe" later this morning. still ahead, we're going to have much more on this texas school shooting, including the new effort by senate democrats to take action on gun violence. plus, a few other headlines. the fbi uncovers isis plot to assassinate former president george w. bush. those stories and much more when "way too early" comes right back. more when "way too early" comes right back
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with a 2 -year price guarantee. call today. this is the scene from the white house yesterday as the american flag was lowered to half-staff as a mark of respect for the victims of yesterday's school shooting. it was the same scene at federal buildings, military installations and embassies around the world. our coverage of this horrific
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massacre continues in just a few moments here on an expanded edition of "way too early." we'll also look at some other stories today. the fbi says it has stopped an alleged plot to assassinate former president george w. bush. the agency says an isis operative told an undercover informant he wanted to smuggle four people from iraq to the u.s. through the mexican border in order to carry out the attack. at one point the man even traveled to dallas to surveil the former president's home. according to forbes, which first reported the news, the fbi uncovered the plot by working with two confidential informants and reviewing the alleged plotter's whatsapp messages. officials say the operative entered the u.s. legally in september of 2020 then applied for political asylum while trying to marry an american woman to secure his immigration status. documents revealed the investigation initially began as
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an immigration or visa fraud case and then evolved into something alleged will more sinister. federal prosecutors are asking the man be detained without bond with a hearing set for friday. in a statement, a spokesperson for the former president writes this, president bush has all the confidence in the world in the united states secret service and our law enforcement and intelligence communities. turning now to the war in ukraine. there are new concerns that russia's on going invasion could spark a global food crisis. local officials say russian ships have blockaded ukrainian ports in the black sea, cutting off exports of grain and other agricultural products to world markets. a new u.s. intelligence report, which was obtained by "the washington post," reveals the russian navy now effectively controls all traffic in the northern third of the black sea. making it unsafe for commercial
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shipping. a u.s. official told the post, quote, the impact of russia's actions cannot be understated as ukraine's sea born exports are vital to the global food security. this as new satellite images, you're looking at some here, released yesterday by u.s. technology firm maxar appear to show russian ships loading ukrainian grain at the port in crimea. ukrainian officials previously alleged that these ships carry thousands of tons of stolen grain and sell it in black markets. ukraine provides about 10% of the global wheat export, of which approximately 95% is exported through black sea ports. just a few moments ago, speaking of ukraine, ukrainian president zelenskyy offered his condolences to the united states for the school shooting in texas. just think about that. president whose country is being
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assaulted by russia. there's a war. and yet he's sending his condolences here because of a school shooting. still ahead on "way too early," golden state warriors' head coach steve kerr has a message for lawmakers. do something about gun violence. we'll show you his emotional remarks during a pregame news conference. we'll be right back. we'll be right back.
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welcome back to an expanded "way too early." just five months into the year there have already been more than 200 mass shootings in the united states. the gun violence archive, a nonprofit organization has counted at least 213 similar attacks defined as one in which four or more people were killed or injured. prior to yesterday's attack, the deadliest shooting of the year came just 11 days ago when ten people were killed at a supermarket in buffalo. of those 213 mass shootings, at
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least 27 of them happened in schools. about 400 miles north of robb elementary school, the latest scene of unthinkable violence in the nation's school, american airlines arena in dallas, where golden state warrior's head coach steve kerr spoke to reporters before last night's matchup against the mavericks, but he didn't want to talk about basketball. instead, kerr used his pre-game news conference to criticize congressional leaders for their inaction on gun violence. >> nothing happened with our team in the last six hours. we're going to start the same way tonight. any basketball questions don't matter. sints we left shoot around, 14 shirn were killed 400 miles from here. and a teacher. and in the last ten days we've had elderly black people killed
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in a supermarket in buffalo. we've had asian church goers killed in southern california. and now we have children murdered at school. when are we going to do something! i'm tired. i'm so tired of getting up here and offering condolences to the devastated families that are out there. i'm so tired of the -- excuse -- i'm sorry. i'm tired of the moments of silence. enough. there's 50 senators right now who refuse to vote on hr8, background check rule that the house passed a couple years ago. it's been sitting there for two years. and there's a reason they won't vote on it, to hold on to power. so i ask you, mitch mcconnell, ask all of you senators who refuse to do anything about the violence and school shootings and supermarket shootings, i ask
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you, are you going to put your own desire for power ahead of the lives of our children and our elderly and our church goers? because that's what it looks like. it's what we do every week. so, i'm fed up. i've had enough. we're going to play the game tonight. but i want every person here, every person listening to this to think about your own child or grandchild or mother or father or sister or brother, how would you feel if this happened to you today? we can't get numb to this. we can't sit here and just read about it and go, well, a moment of silence. yeah, go dubs. come on, mavs. let's go. that's what we're going to go to. we're going to go play a basketball game and 50 senators in washington are going to hold us hostage. do you realize that 90% of americans regardless of political party want background
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check, universal background check. 90% of us. we are being held hostage by 50 senators in washington who refuse to even put it to a vote despite what we, the american people, want. they won't vote on it because they want to hold on to their own power. it's pathetic. i've had enough. >> steve kerr talking about matters far more important than basketball yesterday in that emotional news conference. we should note, his own father, a professor, was killed by a gunman in beirut in 1984. as you're seeing the masks and warriors did hold a moment of silence for the victims of yesterday's shooting ahead of last night's tipoff in game four of the western conference finals, a game played, as kerr said, about 400 miles from the shooting scene. the mavs would win over golden state. still ahead on "way too early," we're going to break down some of yesterday's
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legislation that would strengthen criminal background checks for gun purchases. according to "the new york times," the pair of bills would expand criminal background checks to would be gun buyers on the internet and at gun shows as well as lengthen the waiting period for gun buyers flagged by the instant background check system to allow more time for the fbi to investigate. the revived measures were passed in the house in 2019 and again last year, but each time were met with republican opposition on the senate floor. joining us now, cofounder of punch bowl news shake sherman, an msnbc political contributor. jake, thanks for getting up so early with us today. let's talk about the possibility of any sort of gun legislation being passed in the senate. we heard, of course, ted cruz voicing the republican party line earlier in the show, saying that, you know, he thought this tragedy was being politicized and no need for any sort of gun
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reform legislation. then we had senator joe manchin, a democrat speaking yesterday saying he wants congress to pass common sense gun reform but won't support eliminating the filibuster to do it. so what are some of the proposals that congress could look at? and are any republicans at all signaling willingness for anything? >> this is a really complicated question, john. and thanks for having me. so let's just take this from the top. number one, i don't think the filibuster will be eliminated for gun control laws. i just think it's not going to happen. i think manchin and sinema are not going to support it. so then you get into not a binary choice, but you get into -- there's a fork in the road here, right? chuck schumer is -- has -- what he has done is he has moved those background check laws
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toward the legislative calendar. i know that sounds horrible, and it's not tv friendly, but what he's doing is moving to set up motion -- cloture votes on motion to proceed. so he's starting debate. that will require 60 votes. it's not clear that's going to happen, but there's a temptation always by schumer specifically to force republicans to take tough votes on things like this or things he considers tough votes. that's one strategy. that is a political strategy. that's tempting for schumer and that's tempting for a lot of different lawmakers. there's another track, these aren't mutually exclusive. there's another track where he actually tries to find a deal. i don't know that there's a deal to be had and anybody who tells you at this point sitting here less than 24 hours after the shooting that they know what's going to happen is just lying to you. i was up will late on capitol hill last night and i don't know
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what's going to happen. but i do think to answer your original question, john, i think there could be some sort of -- some sort of -- i don't know, the best chance, the lowest common denominator is background checks and red flag laws. those are two proposals have in the past garnered bipartisan support. john thune, i spoke to him last night, he said it's difficult to find a solution. i'm trying to look for the quote now in our morning edition on the back of my screen here, but he said, basically trying to find a solution to a problem that is difficult, that really no one knows in his view -- i'm not sure a lot of people would agree with this -- that no one knows what the common thread is. so, john, we are -- this is a familiar cycle. you know, we have a tragedy.
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21 kids were murdered. and congress doesn't have the answers, and it's embarrassing. >> jake, certainly some of the things you mentioned including strengthening background check laws enjoy broad public support. but yet nothing seems to get done. i'm reminded of one of the truest political observations of recent years when someone noted that in the wake of sandy hook when 20 plus elementary school students were killed, if that wasn't the moment that gun control legislation would happen, maybe it never would. that's being tested again now. jake, while we have you, i also want you to weigh in on some of yesterday's primary elections. perhaps the strongest statement of former president trump's hold over the republican party several of his big primary targets have won their races in georgia. some questions about his influence. governor brian kemp ran away with the election, defeating trump-backed david perdue by more than 50 points.
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kemp gave his victory speech at the college football hall of fame in atlanta. >> abrams will take georgia in a completely different direction. folks, you can see the choice on the ballot this november is crystal clear. stacey abrams far left campaign for governor in 2022 is only a warmup for her presidential run in 2024. >> and kemp wasn't the only trump target to win yesterday. secretary of state brad raffensperger, there he is, won his primary election against trump-endorsed congressman jody hice. the race for the senate in that state is also set. former football star herschel walker and senator raphael warnock both easily won their races and will square off in the general election this november. and democrats are getting to work quickly. new web video released by the democratic party of georgia highlights the controversies surrounding walker.
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take a look. >> herschel walker. >> the candidate is drumming up controversy. >> a big name senate candidate doing damage control. >> walker violated the law by spending money as a political candidate before declaring his candidacy. >> records showed mr. walker's own company benefitted from ppp loans despite ridiculing businesses for taking the payout. >> cancelled following backlash from this. a swastika made up of vaccine syringes. >> science said man came from -- if that is true, why are there still apes? >> meanwhile, in the house, congressman marjorie taylor greene faced a court battle to be allowed to run for re-election, she also won last night. and alabama's republican senate primary is headed for runoff. katie brit, a form r top aide to retiring senator richard shelby will face congressman mo brooks after neither candidate clinched 50% support in yesterday's race.
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businessman and former army helicopter pilot mike durant, polling third, conceded last night. the runoff between brit and brooks will take place on june 21st. let's recall that trump endorsed brooks and took it back. jake, we saw that several of trump's key targets came up with wins any way in georgia last night. what should we read into this about his hold on his party? >> not even wins, john. brian kemp won just completely trounced david perdue. brad raffensperger cleared a runoff narrowly, but that's still a massive victory for those two men in this race. what should we read? we should read that donald trump lost georgia and he is not -- his sway is not what it once was. herschel walker, i think this is the most interesting thing, i've been hearing from democrats and frankly some republicans, a lot of republicans for a while, they are worried herschel walker is
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not ready for primetime. you can see that from some of the ads. the democrats are trying to push that message on the air waves. my friend manu raju was at the party for herschel walker last night and asked him about gun laws and whether they should change in the wake of the horrible shooting in texas. walker's response was, what i would like to do is see everything and stuff. there's clearly walker has to do on policy and things like that because that is not an answer that would fly in any race, even for low-level office when it comes to -- in the wake of a massive tragedy. so, walker has some work to do. warnock is a very, very polished, very well practiced candidate. he has shown that on capitol hill. i speak to him all the time on the capitol hill. so, trump just -- he came up short. a lot of people will say he picked the wrong candidates, john. but in a state that's formerly
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deep red for the president to endorse two people who lost is quite embarrassing for him. >> yeah. his vengeance tour unsuccessful there in georgia. you're right about herschel walker, not ready for primetime, it would appear. jake, quickly on alabama, mo brooks, trump pulled his endorsement and he's heading to the runoff any way and will get the support of the third place finisher mike durant. he stands a pretty good shot of winning here. what do you think? >> that's a good question. he's not going to take all of the support from durant quite clearly, i don't think. katie brit will be the resilient or the beneficiary of a lot of largess from the business community and i would imagine at this point that the senate republican super pac will get involved on behalf of katie britt to ensure that mo brooks is not the senate republican candidate for the senate. he is someone that has a lot of
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dislike towards mitch mcconnell. i don't think mcconnell's allies -- they're going to do everything they can to make sure he's not the nominee. katie britt former chief of staff -- >> certainly the continuing divide between mcconnell candidates and trump candidates something to watch in the months ahead. we should never overlook the fact that mo brooks spoke at the rally on january 6th in the hours before rioters stormed the capitol. jake sherman, we really appreciate all your insight and getting up with us this morning. thank you, my friend. still ahead, we'll have more reaction to the mass shooting in texas. we're going to play for you the emotional speech from vice president kamala harris. plus, what lawmakers on capitol hill are saying about possible action on gun reform measures. "way too early" will be right back. asures "way too early" will be right back
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every time a tragedy like this happens, our hearts break. and our broken hearts are nothing compared to the broken hearts of those families. and yet it keeps happening. so, i think we all know and have said many times with each other, enough snuff. enough is enough. as a nation, we have to have the courage to take action and understand the nexus between what makes for reasonable and sensible public policy to ensure something like this never happens again. >> that was vice president kamala harris giving an impassioned speech on the horrific school shooting in texas, begging for unity and
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action. joining us now white house correspondent for politico and co-author of the play book eugene daniels. he is also an msnbc contributor. thank you for getting up extra early with us today to talk about this. and last two weeks the biden administration has faced two major, horrific mass shootings. this elementary school tragedy in texas and supermarket shooting in buffalo. we heard from the president, emotional, sad, angry, pushing for congress to do something. but is there any chance something will get done? >> yeah. you could hear it from vice president harris and president biden's voice last night that there's this immense frustration in this administration and they are simply mirroring the frustration and anger that you're seeing around the country because this is almost a uniquely american problem. and so the people that i talk
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to, you talk to in the white house and on capitol hill, they see the same thing play out over and over and over again and other administrations and literally just last week, ten days ago in this country. they know and the administration knows it's a multifacetted problem. everyone agrees on that, but so is healthcare and taxes and foreign policy, and somehow we as a country work and figure out solutions for those issues. so this white house will do what we saw other administrations do. we saw president biden get motional, as raw as we have seen him, i think, on these issues. shaken, angry. he demanded action. senator chris murphy from connecticut takes the floor and begs his colleagues again to restart conversations around gun safety legislation. so, is something going to get done?
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it's hard to say. you know, i think the conventional wisdom is if we didn't see anything after newtown, you know what i mean, for those of us that were adults at the time, feels eerlly similar. they know that gun legislation through congress has continued to be something that this country is unable to do. and so the executive order is that they've continued to look at around gun safety legislation or around gun safety in this country continues this frustration from gun safety advocates that hasn't happened faster. but that conversation, those arguments and discussion around the country and most importantly in the white house on those executive orders are continuing. >> yeah. and we heard from senator manchin saying he wouldn't want
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to scrap the filibuster to pass gun orders. they passed some already. they signed some already. it's unclear what the next wave would be. we also should note the president's pick for atf director hasn't been confirmed yet. his first withdrawn, his second awaiting hearings from the senate. eugene, speak to us in a big picture way. this seems like another issue for democrats where they are frustrated and can't, despite having control of the white house and congress, very narrowly, can't get something across the finish line because of republican resistance, whether it is voting rights, whether it is climate change or now on guns. speak to their level of frustration. >> i can't imagine a more frustrated group of -- members of congress that we have seen in recent years than democrats right now who americans see them as the party in power. you have all the power.
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why can't you do something when you talk to voters. that's the question they ask and democratic strategists ask and know they're being looked at to do. so the frustration with republicans and the lack of coming across the aisle on any of these issues continues. and especially on the issues that shake all americans. it doesn't matter. you're going to continue to see democrats push for something, but they also are very -- they know exactly -- they can run this play in their sleep. i think that's where they are right now. >> politico's eugene daniels, thank you for your insight and getting up with us this morning. we really appreciate it. still ahead in this hour one of "way too early" today, some of the other stories making headlines this morning, including the status of the second overseas shipment of desperately-needed baby formula is due to land in washington, d.c. today. we'll be right back. d.c. today we'll be right back.
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a second shipment of baby formula is due to land at dulles international airport just outside washington, d.c. today. the flight, which left from ramstein air base in germany, is operated by fedex delivering more than 100,000 pounds of formula. roughly 1 million 8 ounce bottles. once the plane arrives, fedex will transport the formula to a nestle dribs center near allentown, pennsylvania. first lady jill biden and visk murphy will greet the plane when it lands at dull es. yesterday the federal trade commission launched an inquiry into the formula shortage with the agency releasing a statement that reads in part this -- the inquiry seeks information about the nature and prevalence of any deceptive, fraudulent or otherwise unfair business practices aimed at taking advantage of families during this shortage. it also aims to shed light on the factories that have led to
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concentration in the infant formula market and the fragility of the supply chains for these crucial products. president biden is set to sign a long-awaited executive order to reform policing practices today. the order will create a national registry of officers fired for misconduct and encourage state and local police to tighten restrictions on choke holds and so-called no knock warrants. it will also restrict the transfer of military equipment to law enforcement agencies. the signing comes on the second anniversary of the death of george floyd, who died after he was pinned to the ground by a minneapolis police officer. according to a senior administration official, the families of floyd, brianna taylor and elijah mclane are all expected to be in attendance at the white house for the signing. the biden administration began crafting the action last year after police reform legislation
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such as the george floyd justice in policing act failed to garner bipartisan support. up next, "way too early" will continue. and we'll have the latest from the tragic news from texas. at least 19 students and 2 teachers killed in yet another mass shooting. several victims remain in the hospital. we'll get an update. in in the hospital we'll get an update. restful sleep per night. save $1,000 on the sleep number 360 special edition smart bed, queen now only $1,999. and free home delivery when you add a base. ends monday
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what struck me was these kinds of mass shootings rarely happen anywhere else in the world. why? they have mental health problems. they have domestic disputes in other countries. they have people who are lost. but these kinds of mass shootings never happen with the kind of frequency they happen in america. why? why are we willing to live with this carnage? why do we keep letting this happen? where in god's name is our backbone to
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