♪♪ >> good morning. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern. 7:00 a.m. pacific. 9:00 here in uvalde, texas. 96 hours after the shooting that claimed the lives of 21 people, including 19 children and two teachers, outrage about what exactly happened here at robb elementary school? we're starting to learn the horrifying detailed what happened inside the classroom. the classroom where the shooter holed up, killing the victims,

wounding several more. 11-year-old survivor says she's terrified of men after what she went through. she didn't want to speak on camera. we're going to play for you what the child explained what happened that day. we're going to tell you, it's going to be hard to hear. it's real, it's important. >> the 11-year-old miah was in the 4th grade classroom that was in the room, she said they were watching lilo and stitch. the end of the school year. they finished lessons and one of the teachers got an email there was a shooter in the building, and went to the door and he was right there, and they made eye contact -- >> the shooter made eye contact with the teacher? >> and he then shot out the window of the door, and it

started so fast. he backed the teacher in the classroom, and he made eye contact with the teacher again. looked her right in the eye, and said, good night, and shot her and killed her. he went through the door to the adjoining classroom, and mia would hear screams. she heard a lot more gun fire. >> then she said she heard music. she thinks the gunman put it on. she started blasting sad music, and she said, what it sounded like i want people to die music. so she had a friend next to her. that she was pretty sure was already dead and was laying on the ground bleeding out, and she put her hands in her friend's blood and smeared it all over her body. she wanted to look like sheep was dead. she was squared the gunman was

going to come back in the classroom and she wanted to be able to play dead. >> an 11-year-old little girl, 11 years old. reaching over to her friend thinking she's already dead, and then getting her blood and putting it on her so she could survive. as meanwhile, grieving parents and members of the community demand answers, we're going to spend the next two hours explaining what we know and what we don't know. there is so much we don't know about how the authorities responded or didn't responsibility. in a press conference, law enforcement attempted to clarify. this is what they said yesterday. 11:28 gunman, the gunman crashed

a truck near the school, opening fire or two people in a funeral home across the street before climbing a fence to robb elementary. the first call coming in at 11:30. officials say there was no armed officer inside the building. there was no officer period inside the building. walking back the claim there was. the gunman entered the building unobstructed through what appeared to be an unlocked door. authorities say they arrived at the scene at 11:44 but drew back after the gunman fired on them. officials say two officers were wounded. and a new detail raising another question. we now learn that uvalde police waited one hour for backup as the gunman opened fire inside the school. this as frightened and distressed parents outside. this video shows a number of

them, beg, pleading officers to go back in the school, and the video shows a fraction of what happened. the time stamp on it says 11:54. when the gunman was inside alive, and tactical officers arrived at the school and engaged in a shootout with the gunman. by 12:58, the gunman had been killed. the attack was over and the grief and the crying and the tears were just beginning. joining me now, chief pbs correspondent, and tom winter, and former commissioner and law enforcement commercial. morgan, there are so many questions, and good morning. there are so many questions. and we were here yesterday with this bizarre news conference,

where they were announcing things in a very unorganized, disjointed way. what are you learning? >> jose, every day we thought we were learning more up to yesterday when we had things that we were holding on to as facts, and you mentioned that is not the case. no school officer outside. where we heard someone had engaged prior to entering. we heard he entered an unlocked door and entered a classroom. we now know it's four classrooms inside the school. as painful as it is to hear accounts from the children, second, third and fourth graders that should never have to go through something like this, they accounts and testimony are critical to what took place inside. they were witnesses, because parents were held back and authorities did wait upwards of

an hour before going in. i spoke to a fourth grade boy, and he told me, i thought it was one classroom. he said the gunman shot through the window, the narrow window that ever classroom has. injuring the teacher and a classmate. he said prior to that, they locked the door. kids got behind desks and tables as best they could. i asked how long before he knew he was safe? he said it wasn't until men in camouflage broke windows from outside and they were able to climb outside the school. he was visiting the tribute where the 21 crosses are. and he signed one of them. he said, you deserved better. these are his friends. that is one student i spoke to. another young boy spoke about what happened inside. take a listen. >> the cop said help if you need

help. and they got one of the persons in my class that helped the guy overheard. he came in and shot her. and the cop barged in that classroom, and he said, it's time to die. i was hiding hard and i was telling my friend to not talk. >> this boy describing how he said he heard police officers say ask for help. when a young girl did ask for help, she was killed. we are reaching out to authorities to corroborate that, we have yet to hear back. >> you have been speaking to people in the community. and when i arrived, in the past 48 hours, there is so much grief but there is also an increasing sense of anger at what did not happen here. >> we have moved from shock that this happened at all to the

grief, which is still very reel and very raw to a moment of outrage. to morgan's point, so many of the details are coming from the children themselves and they are challenging some of the official accounts from earlier and filling in holes that three days later we have not heard from authorities. we are talking about an hour gap, we are looking to fill in details and i spoke with a gentleman who shot that video, you showed earlier. he was outside the school. he says 30 or 40 cops here. many holding heavy weaponry, he said working harder to hold people back from the school than they were to go inside and rescue the children. we know that is just 25, 30 minutes after the gunman had entered the building. >> he was still alive. >> he was still alive at that time. parents outside screaming and pleading for officers to go inside saying, they are just kids. the kids we talked to, you get a

sense the burden of safety has been shifted to them. a third grader yesterday said i was in lunchtime when i happened and i could do is run and hide, and i said, did someone tell you? and he said, no, i knew i had to. >> on the video, around here, there were police officers of all kinds and a police -- at least two police officers with m-4s. there were two or three police officers with long weapons, fully dressed with armor. in other words, if there is a process of holding people back, you would think that the people that are armed with the where with all to be able to neutralize that, wouldn't be there, they would be in there. >> these are the questions people are asking. there's going to be another briefing here. but we cannot stress enough, the

ripple effects. we talked about the kids inside. they have siblings. they have family. i was at the memorial yesterday where child after child, family after family, had been streaming in and leaving notes for their classmates. tess was killed. her soccer team came to the soccer team, and took of their hair bows and plessed them on the cross with her name. this is happening three days after they had questions. this is something the community will feel with and live with for the rest of their lives. >> i spoke the other night with lexie's brother, who is going to be the nba. he was going to say his sister, joined as a lawyer, the baseball league. that is how good and how big their dreams were. there are so many victims in this. and i keep thinking about joe garcia, who idea came here to

leave a flower around the cross of his wife who was killed here. he went home and he died, leaving four children behind. four children that lost their mother and their father because of what happened here. and i'm just wondering, morgan, you were there at this other memorial in downtown uvalde. how is this affecting the entire community? 17,000 people who make this place home, love this place, have dreams and aspirations and the children are the better future for them. parents who come here and always say i'm looking for a better life for my children, it's affecting so many people. >> jose, it's affecting everyone who lives here, who lives in the surrounding area. the name of uvalde has been on the lips of people across the

entire planet, and they feel supported here but they are faced with an insurmountable task of doing something they have never had to do before. that is not only dealing with the shock of this, but also withbearing and paying tribute to honor 21 lives. we know two funeral homes here are offering services free of charge. there is a funeral home in texas shipping caskets here today. >> they have to of course make them smaller. >> small, yes. >> they are small for children. you don't formally think of parents having to bury their children. it should be the other way around. i'm wondering, tom, we have been talking over the last 24 hours, the 48 hours, the process of the investigation. what happened, what didn't happen. the confrontation with an

officer and a gunman. we know there was no security or armed guard inside the school. there was no locked door in the back of the school. what do we know about the investigation? when things happen, there is a lot of information and misinformation that is natural to occur. but to this degree, tom? >> it's a great question, jose, and i'm thinking of the gentleman who was next to me in the shot next to me, the police commissioner at the nypd. one of the first things the nypd does, i looked yesterday -- now we are looking at the commissioner. i looked at ed davis, the former commissioner in the boston police department, what he did in the first police briefings. he was clear about what he knew, what he didn't know, and a time line and where things occurred and when he wanted the public to know about misinformation, and was it.

it was very clear and sus i think it's so important that the information be referred to as preliminary information, and over time and very quickly, more concrete time line be offered and we waited beyond 48 hours before we initially heard that information. and so that was one of the first things that stuck out to me. and we still don't have concrete specifics, minute by minute, and according to law enforcement there, there is video, surveillance video that may exist at the school and other video that may be gathered and you have based on all my investigations, with people in the past, you have to assign individuals to focus on the time line. that is one of the most important pings that understanding what happened. we have new reporting today on a couple fronts. the reporting of my colleagues, jonathan deems and pete

williams, according to texas, authorities briefed on the investigation. it appears victims were in four classrooms. we don't know whether the gunman fired the weapon in four classrooms or they were injured. this is a high powered rifle. was there any sort of ricochets, as an example. did bullet goes through a wall? it's possible, depending on the type of walls there, through windows. we see classrooms have windows. that is a key thing we want to find out. what windows where is there? windows to the outside, to the door where the shooter could have been engaged, and an important component, you know, people focused on active training, if the shooter is engaged with the police, trying to shoot the cops or the cops or firing back at that active shooter, at least they are not

shooting at kids. >> reporter: or people in an office building. that is an important part of it. really interesting information i just received from kxas in dallas, a great investigator and colleague. he sent to me a guideline, a handbook for officers in texas. this is put out by law enforcement officials what to do in an active shooter. he said time is the number one enemy during active shooter response. the short duration and high casualty rates produced by these events requires immediate response to reduce the loss of life. in many cases, that immediate response means a single officer response until such time as other forces can arrive. the best hope that innocent victims can help from a

neutralizing a threat. and first row responder to will required to place themselves in harm's way and display uncommon acts of courage to save the innocent. that's what law enforcement officers are told by the agency that oversees them. it's important to note when we look at the hour time line and what happened here between when police officers first responded to the school versus when they actually were able to breach the classroom where the shooter, salvador ramos, was in the process of shooting kids. jose? >> yeah, from 11:28 when he crashes that truck behind the school and enters the school, 12:58 when he was finally put down. those were just intermible moments, seconds, minutes. on the video we see, that anna was referring to. you see officers out there in

crowd control. i saw a couple ars. i saw at least two m-4s, full body armor. what logic can there be for these officers to be out there dealing with crowds, which, you know, you need to do that if there is an active shooter in a building. but these are the people armed the way they are that should be inside. where -- what do you see when you see this, commissioner? >> well, i see these pieces and bits of information that are hard to draw a final conclusion from. just a couple comments quick to start off. i mean, what i don't like from this is that it takes away the earlier discussion, talking about grief and turns to outrage. and it takes away from what is most important here. the killer did this senseless act and the victims. i think this discussion right now isn't entirely appropriate.

as tom said, transparency is critical here from the local police officials here. here is my assessment. the final after action report, there will be one, will take weeks if not months. why does it take so long. forensic evidence, gps data, body camera, cell phone video, live streaming, the information from the killer himself, all of it has to be put together, not mind by minute. it has to be second by second. critical is the time in the school. the killer went to the school to when the shooting stopped and part of that assessment will be and must be, it has to be transparent. what was the role of local law enforcement, and what was done well, not done well, and being open and honest about that. the piece that is frequently said here is interviews of

people. i want to caution people that the most unreliable piece of information here, it isn't entirely appropriate to talk about it and include it in the report, is the witness test testimony because they were in situations that no one should be in. and they will remember things differently. if you don't have information right now, worse than saying the wrong thing is silence. you have to get up, you have to tell the public and the media, here is what we know right now. it's preliminary. here is why we think this is the case. here is why we need more information and go from there, and that has to be continuously updated. you see a lot of situations where officers are holding lines, holding parents back. that may or may not be appropriate depending on the

circumstance, what they knew at that point in time. how far away they were. what happen we know -- tom read a manual from another police department. absolutely accurate. we know that law enforcement across the country rushing in and puts their lives at risk every day, in situations similar to this at times. ending the threat immediately. it is paramount importance in a case like this. but these situations are also fluid. we have a situation where an armed person goes in, and do we know where he is in that building now? is he isolated away from children. is he barricaded in a room? and we have heard conflicting information go from day one on this to there was a security officer -- the killing was confined in one room. it may continue to change. that is why the information -- what do we know now to be accurate, based on backed up information, not just eyewitness

testimony and get it out and let's move forward. >> thank you very much. just to wrap this up, here's what police officials did know. unequivocally, they knew just about 11:00 morning, one person had entered the school with a long gun and it took more than 60 minutes afterwards for some specialized team to go in there and take him out. that's what everybody knew at the time. just 300 miles from here, meanwhile, the national rifle association is opening its annual convention in houston. we're going to get the latest on the mounting criticism it's facing. and the latest on the snomps holding first talks on gun safety. t talks on gun t talks on gun safety they only cover select cities with 5g.

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27 past the hour. three days after 19 children and two adults were murdered right here, at robb elementary school in uvalde. thousands of gun owners and prominent republican politicians are going to be gathering today in houston, 270 miles from here for the national rifle association's annual meeting. the nra facing criticism for holding the event days of the

tragedy. earlier tonight, greg abbott would not attend in person. texas lieutenant governor said he will not speak at the convention. garrett is outside the convention where it will take place. what is the sense -- what can we expect there today? >> attendees will find 14 acres of guns and ammunition here, and they will hear from two speakers attending here tonight, ted cruz and donald trump, both still expected to appear. you laid out the tactics in the last 12 hours have canceled their appearances here. greg abbott appearing by video, and dan will not be attending at all.

we saw folks arriving last night. beto o'rourke, the democratic candidate for governor, who has gotten headlines for protests of governor abbott. it will be a hot day in texas. the police department is concerned about the attendees and counterprotestors in the contained space. we will see how the day goes, jose. >> garrett, thank you so much. the nra convention comes on renewed efforts on capitol hill to deal with guns. to see if there is a path forward. lawmakers hope to have a bill ready by the end of senate. with us now is i'm i'll congressman mike quigley who sits on the intelligence and appropriations committee. congressman, thank you so much

for being was. just wondering if you think there's any chance -- are you hopeful there is any bipartisan agreement that could come out of these talks or others? >> no, if i didn't happen after sandy hook, it's hard to imagine it will happen now, and other school shooters that have taken place in our life. i managed to pass midst denial, that allows federal prosecutors to know they denied someone who shouldn't buy guns so they should prosecute. it was supported by everybody but the nra, and including law enforcement. how can't they get on bills like that. how come even though a majority of nra members support universal

background checks. when they started to do something responsible like that, i will have more hope. >> what other responsible things could congress be doing to get some bipartisan agreement? what are things they should be doing? >> look, treating gun violence as a public health issue. huh earlier segments on that, it makes sense in the world. identify the risk factors, tests, procedures that might work to reduce gun violence that is taking place in this country. i go way out there, because ultimately, you know, no single issue is going to solve this. this is a cultural problem that goes well beyond these efforts. but you have to try, and the efforts will make a difference. i suppose it's impossible to

talk about the manufacture and sell of assault weapons. let's use common sense. if the second amendment is to defend your home, your business, yourself, do you need a weapon that is a vehicle of war? you're not defending your home with that. you're not hunting deer with that. you're hunting people. we have seen it too often. >> congressman, i want to take advantage of the fact you represent part of chicago. because just here a couple days ago, texas governor greg abbott used the issue of chicago in a news conference to illustrate why tougher gun laws are not needed. here is what he had to say. i want to you listen to this. >> there are more people that are shot every weekend in chicago than there are in schools in texas, and we need to realize that people that think,

maybe if we can just implement tougher gun laws is going to solve it. chicago and l.a., and new york. this proves that thesis. >> congressman, i just want your reaction to that. >> my initial reaction is he is full of it and he knows it. 1 in 5 guns in chicago come from indiana with lax gun laws. 60% come from states with lax enforcement. there are more gun violence cases in texas than in illinois and he knows better. this is a distax. this is an effort to do something without an ounce of courage to address this. when you have a weapon with a 100 round magazine, you're going to be able to kill a lot more people, and that is just not

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offered to build caskets for the children. you know, they have to be small. the children killed in the shooting. and we want to share more stories, the lives lost in the massacre. layla loved to swim. dance to tiktok videos. she recently six races at field day. her father said they could join to "sweet child of mine" every day on the way to score. maite rodriguez wanted to be a marine biologist. she was recognized for making the honor roll. she was focused, competitive. she was bright and beautiful and she was happy. she said her daughter was going

to be successful. miranda, killed in the shooting, she and her brother attended robb elementary. we're hearing more stories as well of survival from the children who were in that very school behind me. my colleague lester holt speak with a 10-year-old. >> we were watching a movie and then we just heard banging. my teacher got up to see what it was and she said, omg, he has a gun. when he started shooting, we hid behind my teacher's desk. >> you know, there's another issue. another very real issue. some family members, many of them who lost a child, are dealing with guilt. the mother of alexandri rubio

saw her daughter. >> i didn't take her home. i made a huge mistake, and you can never fix it. i always take my kids home after these ceremonies. i don't know what was different this day. she didn't ask. i didn't mention it. and i left my baby at the school. >> i spoke with lexy's brother, he is trying to come to terms with the senseless shooting. listen to some of the conversation. >> my mind, it's just blank right now. i haven't slept, haven't ate. just too much thinking about it. i can't process it yet. it feels like a bad dream. you know, woke up this morning, and it was real. >> you know, he was -- he immediately showed me a picture of his sister and he today on his phone, and just kind of just

wanted me to see that. show it to me. another death directly tied to pure grief has happened in this community. just 48 hours of the shooting, joe garcia, the husband of irma garcia, died yesterday of a heart attack. irma was killed trying to shield and protect her students from gun fire. the nephew said she was planning funeral arrangements, and came here, there's a cross with her name in front of the school. he said joe went home, sat on a chair, and fell over. family members tried doing chest compressions before first responders arrived and they couldn't save him. couldn't save joe. joe and irma were high school sweet hearts. married 24 years.

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i'm wondering, what is texas gun sense? what gun sense laws were you -- do you think -- what would that look like? >> women, common sense means these are measures that have broad appeal across texans from all backgrounds, gun owners and nongun owners alike. common ground. making sure there is a background check on every gun sale. things like an extreme risk production order to have fire arms legal by and temporarily removed if someone is exhibiting signs they may harm themselves or others. things that most people agree on. >> how would that be carried out? if someone is considered dangerous to themselves or others but isn't arrested or detailed, how is that or should that information be available

for the folks responsible when they're selling a gun or a rifle? >> look, i have to tell you. i wish that i could guarantee we could prevent every shooting. there is not one solution to gun violence. there's not one type of gun violence and not one blanket solution. we have to throw everything on the table, and inaction is not an option. inaction got us here. this country is broken when children are murdered in the sanctity of a classroom. we have to act at the local level, state level, federal level. extreme protection means if someone owns a firearm, to go

through law enforcement, to have guns locally and temporarily removed. i may not fit every situation. i may have prevented some of the mass shootings texas as seen before. and we have witnessed many in recent years. >> indeed, thank you so much for being with us. appreciate it. up next, a dad who knows all too well what parents of slain children are going through. sai children are going through and in it. mostly. here to meet those high standards is the walgreens health and wellness brand. over 2000 high quality products. rigorously tested by us. real world tested by you.

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the loss experienced here is a pain that really only someone who has also lost a loved one due to gun violence can understand. joining me now is fred guttenberg, his extraordinarily beautiful daughter jamie was killed at parkland. fred, i've been thinking a lot about you and all the families who lost people because of gun violence. i was there, fred, outside parkland. >> you were. >> after that incident. >> you were. >> i was infinitely far away from you and so many others were feeling and going through. yet, i've been wanting to talk to you, fred. i want you to talk to the people

here, the families of the 19 children, the families of the two teachers and the family of joe garcia, the husband of one of those teachers. fred, talk to them. how do they go step by step, breath by breath today, tomorrow and forever? >> jose, thank you for the question. you were there. your coverage this week has made a difference because you do have a deep connection to this violence. you're from my neighborhood essentially. let me speak to the families and to the kids who now lost both their parents because gun violence isn't only about those who were shot. it's about all the collateral damage, about the families, about those who lived through and about what they will experience as well. we have to be there for them.

the next few days, the next few weeks it isn't about looking ahead. it's about getting through seconds and minutes. it's about remembering to eat. it's about remembering to stay hydrated, to drink. it's about the horrific task of planning a funeral, maybe writing a eulogy, of just being able to give those you love a hug and receive a hug back. it's simple things like that. the day is going to come where you start engaging in more normal tasks. i want to say something to this community. you know parkland well. my wife and i have no idea how we ate. we just don't. i know food showed up. the food was handled. people were telling me you need to eat, you need to drink. i don't -- i know this community has a different level of resources. this is a message to the country

to make sure that we are ensuring this community, and buffalo that happened just before, have the resources they need to continue with the day to day in this immediate time. i appreciate the question. i want these families to note that through you, since you were there, they can reach out to me. i am going to come to that community. i'm going to wait a few weeks. i like to give things a chance to settle down and give the families a chance to get to that place of what's next. i am going to come to that community. i'm open to receive phone calls or messages from anyone who says they would like to talk to me. >> well, you know what, fred, we'll take that to heart. i've got to tell you something. you received here, fred, with the open arms this community is known for. there's 17,000 people who have made this town their homes.

it's where their roots are. they really do and will appreciate you coming here because there is something that only you can share with them. i just want to -- >> jose -- >> thank you, fred. >> jose, they're now my community. i see that image behind you. they're now my community. >> they are indeed. i just want to -- fred, want to finish by thanking you and say -- jamie is something we always have to keep in our hearts and minds, children no longer with us. they remain with us in so many things and so many details and so many moments and so many thoughts and prayers. fred, thank you for being with us. >> thank you my friend. that wraps up the hour for me. i'll be back in just a moment with more from uvalde, texas. ms

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good morning. i'm jose diaz reporting from uvalde, texas. happening now, grief is turning to outrage among many parents, teachers and