not pass open carry last session. they lobbied us to not pass open carry. every democrat voted against it. and every republican voted for it. nine months ago i was on the floor of the texas senate, and i said, because of this bill, i said because of this bill, kids are going to die. and i never thought it was going to be in my community. and i just saw that video yesterday. i never thought it was going to be in one of my hometowns. in one county in my district. this is horrible. and these people don't do anything about it. and this governor doesn't do anything about it. not a damn thing. i'm sorry. >> senator, do you have any

realistic hope right now, as we sit here, that this time will be different? >> greg abbott would like us all to think that this is a mental health problem, every expert will tell you that these people -- that there are no indicators of mental health. that they're rational people, that they plan these things out. they're psychopaths, sure. but you're never going to really truly isolate them and identify them beforehand. and the experts around the country suggest that. there's mental health problems all over the world, but you don't have incidents like this happening all over the world. just here in these united states. i'm in this business, because i have to find solutions to problems. and i hope -- and i have hope, that we can change things. so, let's see what greg abbott does. because i'm calling on him right now to call a special session to bring us back in.

we are seven states that meet every other year. we're a part-time legislature. we need to get back in there. because these people deserve to have their children's live not to have been lost in vain. and we need to cut the crap on all of the other stuff, just to placate your nra donors. enough is enough. i don't want to take anybody's guns away. but we should have age limits. we should have red flag laws. we should have waiting times. there's common sense things that you can do. and at the end of the day, nobody should have a weapon that is used in afghanistan. that's a story for another day. we're just going to keep fighting and hoping. right now, i've just got to make sure the folks in uvalde get the health care they need. i'm trying to raise money to have the community health clinic bring on five social workers and

a psychiatrist. and i'm going to ask this governor to use his emergency powers to fund that. and this is going to be a long-term thing for uvalde. >> roland gutierrez, texas state senator. we feel your heartbreak. and we thank you for taking the time especially after hearing what we listen to, to talk to us and give us some ideas about what might happen moving forward, thank you very much. we appreciate it, sir. and we want to thank you all of you for staying with us. it's just after the top of the hour. i'm chris jansing in new york. continuing our breaking news coverage, after that uvalde texas state press conference in the last hour including the admission from law enforcement officials that it was the wrong decision not to breach the door of the classrooms where the gunman shot and killed 19 children and two teachers. >> the commander considered the

barricaded subjects and no obvious risks. obviously, based on information we have there were children in that classroom that were at risk and it was still an active shooter subject. the 911 operators were aware that children were arrive in that classroom. why weren't officers notified of that, and if that's the case, why didn't they take action? that's the question. i'll go back to the answer. but right now, it was considered. a decision was made on the scene. i wasn't there. but at the same point in time, eye decision was made this was a barricaded subject situation, there was time to retrieve the keys and wait for a tactical team for the equipment to go ahead and breach the door and pick out the subject at that point. >> from retrospect, from where i'm sitting right now, clearly there were kids in the room. clearly they were at risk.

oh, by the way, going back to shooting there may have been kids injured. they may have been shot, but injured and important for life saving to get there. we begin with nbc's yasmin vossoughian in uvalde. nbc's correspondent tom winter is here. we're joined by former atf agent tim cavanaugh. and frank is with us. yasmin, it would be tough to quantify the amount of frustration throughout uvalde in the last 48 hours. and it's hard to see how this does not compound that. you were at that press conference. give us the headlines, please. >> reporter: i just want to start, chris, with some of the people i've been speaking to this morning since i've been here on the ground. i spoke to a decision who delivered some of the kids that were killed in the shooting just a couple days ago. he said to me, there is a golden hour. there is a golden hour, which we all know because we've covered

these things so many times. there is a golden hour in which you have to get someone who is the victim of a gunshot wound to the hospital. and the likelihood of them surviving is so much higher if you can get them to the hospital within the 60 minutes. that is why we're focusing on the time line. and breakdown. i want to walk you through some of the timeliness that tom winter has been talking. 11:27 we're hearing, the crash happened. five minutes. the first 911 call was 11:30. it wasn't by somebody at the school. it was someone at the funeral parlor who was shot at by a man who crashed into a ditch three blocks away and armed with a gun. the first 911 was 11:30. he was not killed until 12:50, i believe. five minutes later, the shooter entered the school. where was the school resource officer. we didn't get answers when i asked that at the press conference.

where was the school resource officer. he was driving around. he raced to the school. he surpassed, bypassed the shooter and thought the person armed actually ended up being a teacher. had he been on campus, would that response have been different. i asked about s.w.a.t., uvalde s.w.a.t. posted on facebook that they were trained for this very incident. where is the team? the people were not in place to respond -- they were not in place to respond? this is the very thing they're supposed to respond to. 12:03, the very first, teacher telling eight to nine students are live in my classroom. there's an active shooter. wisping. i asked at the press conference. did that teacher survive? i did not get an answer. the only answer we got for people who made the 911 calls, two students survived, definitely, they know that.

everything else is still under investigation. this is a community that is reeling. they are in pain. the parents that have lost their babies do not know whether or not they may have survived. had this police department acted sooner. instead of waiting for bortac to arrive. another question i had, what type of firearm did the uvalde police department have on them? i wasn't able to ask that question. when i asked an officer, they said they have an ar, a shotgun and a handgun. you guys have been talking about the response since columbine. you go in. no matter what you have on your person, how many people you have with them. uvalde uvalde pd, what type of firearm -- no matter what. i'm hoping to get more answers. but, again, this community dealing with the loss of these children, these parents, they need these answers.

and they want someone held accountable, chris. >> yasmin vossoughian, thank you so much for your reporting. tom, i want to reset from our discussion and have you build on clearly we learned from that texas dps official about what happened here. >> right. >> what went wrong? >> a whole host of things. first off, two things we need to stay off the bat, steven mcgraw heads the texas department of public safety. >> that's right. >> he was not in charge that day. he was not there that day. this is based on their investigation and what they've found so far. so, he's providing an overview of it. that's the first thing. the second thing is, no matter what, given the tremendous amount of ammunition that was fired here, this shooter, likely, did a lot of their damage very, very early. which is why the seconds count. obviously, the big question certainly remains could more lives have been saved. that's not to minimize that at all. we doll need to keep in mind, a

significant happened right away. >> can i just stop you for a minute? >> yes. >> again, this is something that actually became the subject of lawsuits that yasmin just mentioned the golden hour. >> sure. >> maybe if all of the shooting happened then what we don't know and may never know, is if they came in more quickly. were there people who were shot? were there little kids, teachers who were shot, who may have survived if they were able to get medical attention? >> it's the all the agonizing question. a couple of things came out you that and i haven't had a chance to speak to and i want to pick up on something yasmin is talking about. there san officer that works for the school district who was apparently not on the campus. in the confusion of the moment, whatever happened, the suspect started shooting from vehicles in between the school. apparently, this officer actually drove by the suspect in the course of him firing from outside the school, inside the school. so that addresses the question

that we've been asking for a couple days which is initially, there was an officer there that confronted him. or engaged with him and it turned out it wasn't true. he was away from the school. he comes back from the school and drives by the suspect and thought somebody else was firing. >> what we don't know why wasn't he there. >> that's correct. we have some of the picture, not all of the picture. how was he able to get in school. a teacher apparently had propped open the door that he used to be able to get in. that was new. we also know that a teacher initially called 911 11:30, local time, to advise police of what was going on. something else that came out of it, we're immediately focused on the response which makes sense. apparently, according to mcgraw, he was involved with several discussions on sin that gram, instagram chats talking about threats. in 2011, apparently, he asked

his sister to buy a gun. she refused. starting in march, he apparently has a series of conversations in an instagram chat with three or four people, depending on what date, march 1, march 3, march 14, where he talks about -- word on the street, is that, you know, you bought a gun. and he responds just bought something. somebody asks somebody, are you going to shoot up a school. no he says, but eventually, you'll see. so, he's clearly engaging in people who know that he's interested in purchasing a gun or maybe has some sort of interest in shooting up a school. so it sounds like that's an area where this investigation is definitely looking into which is who knew what and when? who is he communicating with? is anybody urging him on, what is that all about? i've got 50 more questions after that. those are a couple of key things that we learned outside of finally getting able to get a

time line that appears to be based on not only video at the school, and apparently, they're able to determine a lot off of that, based on his comments, but also on top of that, the 911 call records which will they would have had much sooner than today. clearing up it wasn't the school principal, it was the janitor that ultimately provided them with the keys. just something to reiterate, off the time line, clearly, they're going to see, why were we focused on the door, you got 19 cops in a corridor. could we have gone somewhere else. >> i believe the phrase steve mcgraw, when he said 19 police officers. we had the number of people available. jim cavanaugh, you have decades of experience in these situations. how stunned are you by what you just heard? >> yeah, that was a stunning press conference. the thing that struck me the most, the commander, the chief of the school district, and he didn't have the keys to the classroom. that really was a flooring fact to me.

look, i think, chris i've been on-scene commander in shoot-outs and crazy things. just to help the discussion, let me just tell you how i think it should have went. because we're all talking about how we think it went badly. when the on-scene commander is inside, he's got 19 officers, most who have long guns. and he reaches the breach point, in other words, he reaches the point where he's just outside the door with his team and the guy's inside. the first failure is he doesn't have the key and he's chief of the school district police. nevertheless, the active shooter training is not to just run willy-nilly with your hair on fire and get killed and get everybody else killed. we talk about -- that's the only consideration, it's not. the incident commander could make a stutter step decision when he hits the barricade, we have to stop for a minute. we have to set up an emergency assault. because you just can't walk through doors magically.

you can't shoot them out like hollywood. you have to have a way in. the fastest way in, in this situation, which eventually was an hour later is the key. so what the incident commander should have done is knowing that he's got to breach an emergency assault, we call it in the tactical world. the s.w.a.t. world. because tactical commanders, chris, always know that wounded are bleeding out and the clock is ticking. plus you have an active shooter. an active killer who may turn the gun on anybody in there in a second. the real plan should have been we're going to take a stutter step and set up an emergency assault people on the hallway. we're going to get a key in both doors. we're going to end two officers around the back to the window. they're going to be ready to take the first shot. we call it sniper initiated. when the officers go around the back, they get on the radio with the commander. okay, you get one shot. the sniper gets one shot at the killer. as soon as that shot goes off,

the door goes open and the teams go in both sides and kill him. you can't do that running in with your hair on fire. it's going to take you a few minutes to set that up because you want to be successful in killing him so he doesn't massacre everyone. he could kill any living person in there in 20, 30 seconds with the gun he had. if it's initiated, if it's slow, you're banging the door, it's going to take you two minutes to get in there, he's going to kill everyone. you have to take a stutter step. i think the failure was the delay was an hour and that allows the victims to bleed out. that's the failure. i think that's the way it should have went. >> jim cavanaugh, tom winter, thanks to both of you, our thanks to yasmin vossoughian in the field for us. we're going to be right back with more of the latest developments from one of the worst mass shootings american history. this is "chris jansing reports"

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right now, the national rifle association is kicking off its convention a few hours away from uvalde in houston. at the same time, educators, teachers unions and parents are holding a roundtable talk to talk about how to keep our kids safe in school after those 19 children and two teachers were gunned down. take a listen. >> i am sarah leonard. i am a teacher at marjory stoneman douglas in parkland, florida. i kept 15 students safe in my classroom while a gunman opened fire killing 17, injuring 17 and traumatizing an entire community. i still teach at the school. i am a parent as well. and i see the toll that being a generation raised under school shootings has taken on these children. who i educate and who i live with. >> joining me now from houston

is randyi weingarten, the president of the teachers. abby, in newtown, connecticut. and sarah learner, that teacher at marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. i don't know, my understanding you may not have been able to hear the press conference that just happened so if i can just give you a couple of headlines. we know now that the police officials believe it was the wrong decision not to breach that door. not to go into the school. the gunman fired more than 100 rounds but it was a harrowing series of 911 calls including from two children. including calls saying that there are people still alive in here. there are students still alive in here. and two calls begging to please send in the police. and during that time, apparently, the incident scene commander made the decision that

this was not an active shooter situation. it was about an hour and 20 minutes, sarah, to pick up on what you just said from the time shots were first fired. an hour and 20 minutes until they breached that door and stopped the shooter. what goes through your mind when you hear that as someone who has lived it? >> it is -- i mean, it's hard to believe. it's just terrible. i was in the room with my students for three hours, waiting to be released from, or by the s.w.a.t. team. i wasn't in the building where the shooting occurred at my school. but i was the building next to it. and waiting that long to have someone come in is just unconscionable to me. >> randi, where's your head right now?

what do you hope to achieve by traveling there to texas? >> well, chris, i'm sitting with the two ladies who are also on the screen with you. and as you were speaking, we were all wincing and we're all holding each other's hands. i mean, we have to change this. it can't just be that the only response is how good the police response is afterwards. we actually have to stop mass shootings. and if uk can do it, if australia can do it, and if we can put somebody on the moon as united states of america, we can get through the political power struggle. and do this common sense gun violence measures that we know needs to happen. as well as dealing with lots of other issues like mental health and social media. so, my head is not just anger,

but it's what creates the common ground, the engagement, to bring america together to stop the mass shootings of grandmothers in buffalo. or children in sandy hook, parkland, or texas. >> abby, the fact that you made that trip says to me maybe you haven't given up hope. am i right about that? what can you tell us about what you're thinking right now? >> well, chris, the update is just heartbreaking all over again. these weapons have the power to do the unimaginable. and we know with what the families in uvalde had to go through to identify their children. these weapons should not be on the streets. and we know how fast these events happen. so if anybody wants to come to

me and say to arm teachers, they have no idea how fast, from the time the perpetrator came into sandy hook school, turned left, instead of right, where my students and i were hiding, we heard 154 shots that devastated families and communities, and this community, forever, in newtown, connecticut. our hearts, all of my colleagues in the newtown school district, we're all standing alongside the families in uvalde, and the educators there. and we will not this disappear from the headlines. we will continue to do this work as i have done, and many before me, to make a change in this country. gun violence is the leading cause of death for children in america. what are we doing? >> i've asked this of many parents over the years.

and i'll ask you, abbey, how do you keep going? >> look. surviving the tragedy almost ten years ago, i'm not the same person. that survival guilt is -- weighs heavily on me. and the only way that i know to move forward with that is do this work. i met with a few of my former second grade students who survived along with me on that fateful day, and they are juniors in high school. and they're angry. and i have them with me all the time, because i want them to know that their teacher is not going to stop fighting for them. and for their friends who were killed on that day. and for their peers to continue to die, whether in schools or communities, sitting on the

porch, or going to the park. this is just what i have to do. and i continue to organize teachers. today, the event, randi weingarten organized. and nea organized was absolutely impactful. we sat with educators from all over texas. activists. and i know together we can make change. >> i don't know if she was there, randi, but i spoke yesterday to the president of the texas state teachers association. clearly, upset. clearly frustrated. >> she was. >> and she basically said she doesn't think lawmakers have a clue what it is to be a teacher. she doesn't think that they -- that teachers are agreeing with me. obviously, you are as well. >> yeah. >> what's your message?

as you all get together, what's your message to them? >> so, you know, i used to tease, chris, that anybody who said really stupid things about education, just spend five minutes in a classroom. actually, just five minutes under the tutelage of like one of these two great teachers that we're sitting with today. but what is worse right now, is that they don't trust us, particularly, in texas, which is where they ban books and stop kids from talking about their -- you know, who they are, and their sexuality and basically say to parents if your kids are trans, we're going to -- you know, we're going to escape you. what we need to do is tell them, if you trust us so much to carry

a gun, why don't you trust us to do the work that it really is. trust us to be the mind workers. we're not the body armor people. we're the mind workers. we help our kids to know and feel good about themselves. and that is -- and what's really happening is that you have these cultural wars that are just ripping america apart. instead of giving the teachers of the country the support that they need to do the work we have to do to reduce anxiety. to create a welcoming safe environment. and give kids help. look what abbey just said to you, give kids hope. what these teachers do, they give kids hope. that's what we need. >> i guess, sarah, in closing, look, first of all are in awe, i don't know personally anybody who is in awe, what teachers have done in the last 2, 2 1/2

years because of covid. that alone is enough to challenge anyone. the commitments that were made under the most trying of circumstances. we won't even go into pay, support, other issues. and now, both of you who are teachers see what happened to you happen again. is there something that can happen for this community right now? is there something that can happen for these teachers right now, that at least may show a little bit of hope? >> yeah. there is. they need to have their stories heard. they need to share their experiences. and they need to seek help, mental health counseling, whatever they need to move through the events that they just experienced. abbey, a teacher in new york

city sarah rosenberg and i created teachers against gun violence which is a group giving a voice to teachers because we're often left out of the conversation when it comes to gun violence. and, to be clear, gun violence is not just school shootings. it's gun violence in communities of color. it's the shooting we just saw in buffalo. it's domestic violence, suicide by gun violence. it's so large. and it's critical that the teacher voice is heard so that things like this will stop happening. >> well, i thank you for taking the time to talk to us. and we hope to have you back, as this all unfolds and we see where it goes and whether or not there is, indeed, any change. sarah learner, abbey clements, randi weingarten, thank you so much for being with us.

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there have been some cancellations at the nra meeting in houston being held, of course, just days after 21 kids and adults were gunned down at an elementary school in that state. texas governor greg abbott is taping a video instead of showing up. lieutenant governor dan patrick has cancelled has musician don mcclain but former president donald trump and senator ted cruz are a go. nbc news garrett haake is there. what are you hearing? >> reporter: you can hear the angry response that they're getting at this convention. there are a couple hundred demonstrators telling folks attending this conference which contains 14 acres of guns and

gear that we want them out of their city. we've heard folks saying this is not the time and place or anything like appropriate to be holding this event in downtown houston today, just a couple hundred miles from uvalde. talking to attendees in the convention inside, it might surprise people to know their views on what if anything washington can do to restrict the ownership or somewhat make it safer are more nuanced than the hardline second amendment protection that's their organization represents. here's some of the folks i talked to this morning. >> no one can own a weapon unless you're 25 years old. >> 25. >> 25. that's my opinion. okay. now, my kid -- like i said, he grew up with being able to shoot automatic weapons. any kind of weapons you get your hands on, you can do that. but he used them under my supervision. supervisor of the person that owned the guns and he learned the correct way to do it. >> what do you make when you watch the coverage of what happened in uvalde, and the

debate around it that starts immediately after that? >> it's mental illness is how i feel. it's total mental illness. >> reporter: chris, i suspect what we will hear from the speakers once this convention gets under way in another hour and a half or so, it will be much more in line with that second person i talked to here, the nra's position in the past has been that gun violence is a mental health issue and that schools need to have hardened or armed guards or teachers and those are not popular to the folks i've been talking to folks outside the convention center. >> garrett haake. thank you. we have charlie sykes and did the dean at the university of arkansas. charlie, nbc just spoke to one of the protesters who slammed the nra and republican politicians. let me play that for you. >> things need to change. the nra is the largest contributor to financial

campaigns. and the only thing easier to buy than an ar-15 is a gop politician. all the money that ted cruise, all of the money of trump's campaign -- all the money. >> we keep hearing, charlie that the nra isn't what it used to be. that it's been really -- lost so much of its power. and yet, is that protest right, follow the money? >> well, follow the money, but also follow the cultural war. the nra, you know, at one time, was -- was actually emphasized things like gun safety. now, they are -- they really are the it of the right. they've gone along with the most extreme and absolutist position. and it is the money. but it is also the sense that you can't defy the base. just like a lot of other republican politicians are afraid of defying the base. i think this is a political myth. i just want to zero in on something that garrett mentioned

a little while ago. even at the nra convention the opinions are more nuanced. this is, i think, an underappreciated point. among the vast majority of gun owner there is a respect for guns. there's a sobriety about it. there is a repulse against this fetish for guns or the absolute position that there's nothing that can be done to stop the murder of innocents. so i think this is something to keep in mind. i do think the republican politicians if they had the guts could defy the nra could say we need to do things like pass red flag laws as they have in florida. or raise the age or have background checks. they could do this, and they could politically survive. they just have not tested it at this point. unfortunately, you have one of the most reckless and irresponsible organizations that has monopoly control over the position of guns. >> you know, victoria, charlie's

right. there has been conversation over the fact that folks don't understand the gun culture. look, you spent most of your life in texas. you understand. you've lived in it. both the political aspects and reality of it in people's homes. i do think for me, having interviewed one of those people, like the guy we just heard from. look, i have guns. i teach my kid how to use guns properly but i don't necessarily everybody should have access to guns. when you look at 90% of people with that support background checks that's a lot of gun owners. so, how do you explain that nothing can get done in conversation? >> well, die want to underscore what charlie said about the culture war piece. it's a useful piece. i'm a republican, and a card carrying republican. and the devil's in the details

and we need to get to that nuance. a lot of folks in texas grew up with guns. handle guns, are safe when it comes to guns. understand there needs to be someone, in fact with texas over the last conduct of legislative sessions is a loosening of that where guns can be taken on college campuses. where you can experiment with carry, where you can have open carries. and what you seem, getting the unspeakable tragedies that we have seen, i think, chris, this is a reflection, a sad reflection, that we keep threatening to the extremes, right? if i can't have all of the unrestricted access to guns that i want, then i don't want to be in the middle. this is something that we have to figure out. folks want to have a responsible use of guns, let's allow for that and let's meet in the middle. >> and, charlie, i want to get your reaction to this photo, it was tweeted -- and then i should

say deleted by the gunmaker it shows a toddler holding an ar-15 rifle. and it has a bible quote that reads in part, train up a child. when you talk about the culture and culture wars, is this what's smack in the middle of it? charlie? he's frozen there there. i'll get your reaction to it, victoria. >> it is -- and it is so disturbing, too, in the wake of uvalde, where we're talking about children here, right. the use of guns is something that should be left to responsible adults who have been trained. and that graphic just conjures up, you know, the difficulties of seeing the loss of life which is disturbing in and of itself. and the loss of life of children and innocence. i think this is the exact wrong message we're sending out if we want to start having those conversations of how we meet in the middle. we need to be protecting our

most vulnerable. but at the same time, okay, we will protect the second amendment, but there can be reason with it. >> there's one more thing, i just want to get your one-minute comment on, which is we focus so much on congress. i'm not saying that's not critical, but a lot of the action as in abortion, as in voting laws is happening in state legislatures. i've had long conversations during voting fights with the texas state legislature. and do you think that is not talked about enough, state by state by state, and the importance of what happens? and the importance, frankly, of paying attention to who you're going to elect as your state legislator. >> well, absolutely. yes. >> go ahead, charlie. i didn't realize you were back with us. go ahead. you have 30 seconds. >> yes, absolutely, yes, the states are laboratories of democracy, and we can show which laws work and which laws don't work. by the way, as for that picture, i think itis obscene, i

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katy tur. given the clarity of the latest version of events as laid out by the texas department of public safety based on videos and calls from the scene. i want to start with that. at 11:27 a.m., somebody at robb elementary school props a door open. it was 11:28 when the shooter crashed his truck behind the elementary school. two minutes later the first 911 call is made. a minute after that the shooter fired outside the school in the parking lot. the suspect went into the building at 11:33, went into the classroom, fired a hundred rounds three officers entered the school as the shooter did. two minutes later the gunman fires 16 more