tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC May 28, 2022 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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nearly waiting an hour to move in on the killer with full force. that delay adding anger to these mix of emotions that the communities dealing with right now. for the families of those children, it is unbelievable sadness of these lies, these babies, lives cut so short by what is becoming almost commonplace in america. among the victims, ten year old xavier lopez. we talked to his brother josé and his brother's girlfriend about the boy that will always remember they love to dance. >> he loved to dance. i love to. dance >> would you love to dance to? >> he was my dancing partner. >> he was your partner. >> [inaudible] >> my babies learn to dance also. >> how did you learn about the shooting?
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>> my mom. >> all of the full interview later on this hour. but it do want to talk about texas state police and their investigation into law enforcement's response to the uvalde school shooting, which has come under incredible scrutiny as it should. officials acknowledging that police waited an hour for backup before entering the classroom and confronting the gunman. senate sure gutierrez is joining the three now. -- this is devastating to this community. it is devastating that it seems as if there is not a possibility of change to come. to stop something like this from happening again. almost our first with anticipating the presidents visit here tomorrow. i know you are gonna be meeting
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with him likely. what do you want to communicate with to him? and what do you think is important the president communicates to these people? >> the president has reached out already, to myself and other people in the community. he's coming tomorrow. he's got needs to be the comforter in chief. he's gonna do that. they talked about federal, grad school, raising that's important. parents don't want to send their kids back to school in this building. we need to have this conversations. we need to talk about mental health care. we need to make sure governments putting enough resources down. here -- we are talking about mental health care that is gonna leave here in a week. this is gonna go on forever. we need to have an extraordinary allocation of money to fund the community health clinic. i've asked the governor to do. that of got no response from him. it's the time is now. this community deserves. it >> the time is. now this community also wants to see change.
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ever i talked a lot of. people every single person i've asked, shouldn't 18-year-old be able to find a ar? they said no. these are gun owners. i get it. this is texas. but every single person said they should not be able to own an ar and has gone as far as to say that anybody needs an ar. what do they need an ar? for it seems the government is not even acknowledging the existence of that thought and the likelihood of any change. >> he is completely tone-deaf on this issue. he needs to listen to his own republican constituents to call me and say, how is it i need to be 21 years old to buy pistol, but i only need to be 18 year old to an assault rifle. it makes no sense. -- a kid can go into a store and buy two of these in two and a
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gun shop caused -- we have no change because we have a feckless leader in austin that is done nothing to help our community. >> what it is to get change? what do you do? well? happens >> they have controlled legislation in austin for 20 years. if all i can do is yell and scream, i'm gonna yell and scream forever, as long as i am there on this issue. we have had five massacres under his watch. and he has done nothing other than school hardening. we saw the effects of school hardening here. the officers weren't even done a even access the door because of school hardening. that is not the answer. he says it's a mental health problem. go find mental health number one, at the end of the day this is the only country this
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happens. and there's mental health in other countries. the reason is, they have access to militarized weaponry where they can create this mass destruction. it needs to stop. >> it needs to stop. the former president also saying at the nra yesterday he wants to allocate $40 million to arm schools, believing that it's a solution to stop gun violence in the schools. the nra is just a few hundred miles away from here. thank you so much. go >> mourners gathering today in how uvalde to pay their respects and remember the 21 people killed, including fourth grade teacher eva morales, who was killed trying to protect your students from the government. she was a teacher at robb elementary school for 17 years. earlier today, i spoke to a childhood friend of merciless
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about this devastating loss. >> she was with me in -- elementary in, texas. she was also a classmate of mine in junior high in high school, as we were close friends we, would hang out. he together during lunch. >> what was she like? >> just kind, friendly, sweet, that's all i can remember from her. >> did you guys keep in touch as you got older? >> for a few times on messenger and facebook yes. >> and when you learned about the shooting here at the school, what was your reaction? >> i was in shock. i just couldn't believe it. it was very sad. it's just a tragedy. >> and when you heard it was your friend that was in that classroom also? >> i was so soft and crying. i couldn't function for few
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minutes. i was very soft. >> are you afraid for other schools now? other kids? >> i myself am a school nurse. and we do, we have that fear, the constant fear i'm just in shock. >> it just shows not only this community connected, the status connected, and is reverberating everywhere. not only children that are continuing to go to school, but a school nurse, worried now when she goes to work every single day. danielle -- a reporter for today, found two sisters who realized they had ties not only to three cousins kill but to the family of the shooter as. well daniels joining me now. it is so true that this community is incredibly closeness. the police officers they know,
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the police officer's kids went to the school, they know each other, everybody knows someone who was lost in the shooting. that's exactly what you found. talk me through some of your reporting. >> i want to go to one of the memorials that's in the center of uvalde and i saw a group of four young woman in their late teens early 20s and they were standing by some process. i asked them if they knew anybody, they said yes, they found out through their, mother they lost three distant cousins. they were driving down from san antonio to pay their respects. but, in the course of the kind that the spent, here they realize that their uncle went to high school with the grandmother of the shooter, and they also found out that their cousins girlfriend was related to the shooter. -- there's this morning but there's also this anger. -- anger frustration. >> what did you learn from them about who they knew that passed
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away? with they have to say about them? >> they were distant cousins, but they did know them. the three of them i'm gonna try to make sure i pronounce the name correctly. -- the three distant cousins. i they didn't have unfortunately a whole lot to say about, it because it was so young, and they were much older than them. that conscious school faraway. that was part of it right also, young lives lost. they want to get to know they're cousins but not they will never have the opportunity. >> but the idea is that not only do they know the people that were lost in the school, they also know the shooter in a way, they're connected to the shooter in a way. >> i think most of the town they can see, that one way or another, they are connected to the shooter. they've seen, and no, winds of going to school, within the hit they know's family, so how do you live with? that again, is just juxtaposition of mourning and
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also you be really angry. there's so much involved in that healing process. >> what else have you learned about this community in your reporting? >> i've gone around, that's been a lot of time on the ground. i'm sure you've seen. i'm a lot of pop-up memorials. i spoke to two grandmothers who created their own memorials. one of the woman who owns a daycare center. she went on lockdown during the shooting because that's just protocol now. she was there and raised some of those kids who died. she set up a memorial, 21 sherisse, with all of their names, and it was really a moment of remembrance, but of anger. there's an underlying anger. >> yes. it's understanding. it's understandable. i metaphysical who know some of these kids. again it's the connectedness. a small close knit communities now rocked forever. thank you for your reporting.
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our live coverage from uvalde abbott robb elementary school continuing. up next, how -- would has this has not changed since sandy hook in a community in mourning? >> i feel sad because they killed my friend and i can't believe it. it's a hard time for me. i'm just scared. m just how uvalde is coping with their immense lost, and now other americans coming to their aid, some troubling hundreds of miles to show the support. troubling hundreds of miles to show the support. what do you want to give back? what do you want to be remembered for? that's your why. it's your purpose, and we will work with you at pnc private bank,
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say from here on out about what happened? do you trust what they say? >> it's going to be hired. after what happened. i don't think a lot of people are going to trust them. >> now i see that they're making bulletproof backpacks. it shouldn't even get to that point. >> all right this is just some of my conversations with members of the community today. i do want to bring in the founder of moms demand action, after the massacre in sandy hook in newtown connecticut.
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shannon, thank you so much for being with us, i know that this is just launched as i mentioned because of which took place in sandy hook. obviously, as a mom, this hits home. you don't need to be apparent for this to hit home. but there's something, as a mother -- in a way, has been speaking to parents here, that have left someone. the fathers have been able to speak more than the moms. the moms are just eternally crash because of this unspeakable tragedy. what was your reaction when you heard about this, especially considering your organization in the work that you're doing? >> not again. i couldn't believe that we are watching yet another mass shooting inside a school. unfold in our country. and that the slaughter of children -- this something that lawmakers in this country have accepted as the new normal. i am the mom of five. one of my daughters is a teacher of young children.
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i'm terrified, every single day, for all of them. i also want to be clear that mass shootings, school shootings, or about 1% of the gun violence in this country. we know that there have been about 311,000 incidents of gun violence on school ground just since the columbine mass shooting. we've seen record levels of gunfire on school grounds. including at least six in texas, the school year. this is trauma. this trauma will stay with this community, with children, all across the country. it will impact their mental and emotional health. the best way to prevent this trauma, and violence, is to actually restrict easy access to guns for anyone, anywhere, anytime. we have to close loopholes in our law, in background checks. we have to enact red flag laws. we have to require secure storage. because, you know, as we've seen, now, in uvalde, and even in buffalo, we cannot count on
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good guys with guns stopping bad guys with guns. we need policies and action. >> i want to talk about some of the numbers that you mentioned. 51 school shootings since 2013. 94 people killed, after 32 people injured, that's just from 2013. let's look at the age of some of the gunmen. we've all day 18, buffalo 18, partly 19, houston 17, sandy hook, 20. columbine 18 and 17 years of age. these numbers are startling. and i think one of the toughest things that this communities dealing with, and the country is dealing with right now, is there doesn't seem to be any change happening. nothing seems to be move the needle. >> you are just mentioning the numbers around school shootings, again, the daily incidents of gunfire and school grounds, to? 300,000 incidents since columbine. we know how to stop this.
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it's not happening in any other nation. we know this is about easy access to guns. we do need our lawmakers to act. i know we're all waiting for cathartic moment in the senate. in the meantime were working as a movement to pass stronger laws and school boards and state houses. when we look at states, we know that laws were. states with longer -- with stronger gun laws have less gun death. i know it's intuitive, but it's also proven by data. that's what lawmakers should be acting. on not the strongmen, around mental health, video games, parents. this is about access to guns. we can act to stop. this is senseless and preventable. >> shannon watts, thank you, and thank you for the work that you continue to do. i want to begin now, bring back to the conversation former secretary julián castro. let's talk about this issue. this is major. the governor mentioning, the
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other day, it wasn't the press conference, but it was the day before -- he was challenged about a ban on a ours. should an 18-year-old be able to buy an air? i said, listen to this is happening in texas. you point to what's happening 14 days ago in new york, when he walked into a grocery store with an air. strict gun laws in new york. but the commonality is a weapon. it's a teenage man, holding an ar, and killing innocent people. what can be done. >> i think even the government pointing that out, chicago has very strict gun laws but you still get a lot of relatively, a lot of gun crime. the fact is, perhaps that makes the argument stronger that you need a federal solution. a national approach to this. i hear a lot of frustration there, often 90% of people support something like universal background checks.
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just a basic measure. that hasn't gone anywhere. that didn't go anywhere after senator -- proposed, in the wake of newtown. governor abbott doesn't seem to be keen on passing legislation here. so it seems like, yasmin, these incidents happen and then americans fall victim to this and are a playbook, allowing the emotions to -- >> the nra doesn't even have a chokehold on the republican party than the used to -- the crumbled from the top years ago. they had no control than they do nano. and yet it seems like there are many politicians in washington that are beholden to the nra. >> they have a lot of -- to give the issue credit, there are a lot of people the voted in the primaries that don't want any kind of restrictions. they are nowhere near majority, poll after poll shows that the
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mass majority support conference gun reform. but they hold great sway over the republican primaries. that's what these republican politicians respond to. whether it's mitch mcconnell, are greg abbott here in texas. >> here's the thing, we've got a midterm election in november, right? up until this point it seems as though republicans -- people are predicting the republicans are gonna take back the house in the senate, as well. there is very little likelihood that democrats can get enough seats in the senate to create federal change when it comes to gun reform. right? so wet is to be done? right? >> well, look, mitch mcconnell has said that, yes, texas senator john corden to speak with chris murphy and senator of arizona to see if there's some compromise to be had. folks might look at that and say, hey he said -- >> what would a compromise look like? >> that's right, what would it look like, and it isn't real? whether it's gun legislation,
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or police reform that fell apart -- wondering if it's just a playbook, to look like they're doing something, let the emotion subside. they're not get anything done. but it's all of that americans have right now. >> one last. this is an existential threat that have been having. are we becoming a country in which we're gonna be legislation on a state level? you look at what's happening with abortion rights. look at what's happening with guns in this country. if you live in new york state, you'll be legislated one way, if you live in texas, another way. if you live in the north through it -- that we were headed? >> certainly on the issues that you mentioned. on abortion, we're headed more and more in that direction. the truth is from the history of the united states, from the very beginning we've been a nation that relied a lot on states being either more bullish on an issue, or not so much. you always have that different h on an i think what's so difft
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now is a supreme court that is shown itself willing to overturn decades and decades of precedent, on the abortion issue, and the more of these issues like that one to the states. >> there's a supreme and there is the court case supreme court case pending pending when it comes to new york state that when it comes to new york could basically state? that could overturn basically the conceal and overturn carry permit, in new york state? >> that's -- right about 15 years ago, essentially the supreme court at that point said yes there is an individual right under the second amendment to carry a firearm. we'll see what happens in terms of wet restrictions go or don't go with that. >> secretary castro, as always, thank you. after the break and mother loss her daughter in 2012, in aurora colorado, talking about the grief the parents are facing. also my heartbreaking interview with the brother of a ten year old victim, xavier lopez. but is it like to be without him today. >> it's hard, can't even walk
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two uvalde, texas. 2021 funerals. that is what this communities facing and its future. families preparing to say goodbye to the 19 kids and two teachers killed in their horrific attacks. one of those killed is ten-year-old xavier lopez. i talked to his brother and his brother's girlfriend. he remembers xavier by one of his favorite hobbies, dancing. >> he was a good kid. he was an awesome kid. he wants to play it with other children. he loved his niece very much, always took care of her, always. he loved dancing. he always loved to dance. >> would that he loved to dance to?
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>> he liked to dance to -- he was my dancing partner. >> he was my partner, he was your partner? >> you'd like dancing with everybody. >> my babies love to dance also. how did you learn about this happening? about the shooting? >> my mom. she had called me while i was -- i didn't know it was at the robb elementary school. i was at home and right after that we rushed over here. >> it ended. >> when you got here, what did you see? >> all the army swat, one person finishing -- >> so many people here in the world standing away. >> did you know was a viewer was? did you know it classroom he was? >> he was in room 111. >> did you know where the
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shooter was? look >> they say that he locked himself in his classroom. >> what is it like to be without him today? >> it hurts. >> it's. alex it's hard. >> i can't even walk in the house. >> we can't go to his room. to see his game, we should always fly cans together, we used to always play for tonight. that was his favorite. game >> was a good at it? >> yes he was. that was his favorite game. i was he always wanted me to play with. then i was did every time i got the chance. -- i love to be around. >> what was the last thing you guys talked about? the last thing you guys did together? >> it was probably with us, he always wanted to be with, us he was wanted to go for rides with us. >> he always wanted to hang out
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with us. >> always hung out with. us >> watch movies with us in the room. >> how are your parents doing? >> they are taking it really hard. it's hard for my mom to live through this. she lost her baby. it's hard for my mom. it's hard for my whole family. my baby brother's especially, he loved his older brother, that was his right or die. >> that was his right or die. >> how old is your baby brother? >> i got one that's two. and i got one that's five. >> do they know what happened to their big brother? >> yes. we broke the news to them. >> do they understand? >> not the middle one, but the older one, yes. he understands -- he hasn't been wanting to talk to anybody at all. he's been in his room all day, he just felt bad for him. folding his clothes.
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folding's baseball shirts. baseball glove. >> what did you tell i'm? >> just think he's with, because our grandpa passed away two years ago of covid, so i was told him, he's with his grandpa now. he's taking care of us now. >> what do you want the world to know about xavier? >> i want them to know that he was an awesome kid, a great kid. he loved everything and everybody. look even with people bullying him, he still wanted to play with everybody. he never held grudges. he always wanted to play with everybody. >> he stood up for everybody. he was the protector. >> it's hard to say this, but he passed his way with his girlfriend. they were right there with each other every. day >> he had a little girlfriend? >> yes there were same in the same class. >> what was her name?
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>> annabell rodriguez caused. -- >> i remember one time when they have the dance, here they gave his last money to her. >> he know how to care or this girlfriend? >> he gave her $10. >> he learned that from somewhere. probably from you, his big brother. >> he always wanted to come with us, with me and my friends, to the park, to the skate park, he always wanted to come with us. he always wanted to be like us. i was his role model. he always wanted to be like me. >> are you guys frustrated at all about the way the police handled this? >> very. >> yes, frustrated. >> what frustrates you the most? >> they didn't douche it. >> they were just standing around all the time. when i heard from that that there were only trying to get their own kids, they left the
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other kids there. >> they went in for their own kids and then they waited for their other cuts to do their job. >> you think maybe if they acted sooner, that xavier would be alive? >> everybody would be a. life >> everybody. would >> i don't think this would've happened if they had done their job right. week >> angel, jose, i am so incredibly sorry for your loss, xavier sounded like an incredible little boy. he had a big life ahead of him. i know that it's so hard to share with the world your story and your feelings right now, but it is also important to tell that story, so people know what you are going through. i am thankful that you gave me the time. can i give you guys a hug? i'm so sorry. i'm so sorry. >> thank you. oh >> and i'll tell you, xavier and annabelle, if you go to the memorial area here in the town
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square, their memorials are together. so they were together in that classroom. they were ten-year-old boyfriend and girlfriend. he gave her his last $10. and they are together now. my next guest knows that anguish all too well. sandy phillips, whose daughter jessica was killed in aurora, in a movie theater shooting, back in 2012. she is here in uvalde. -- walk you let me just say first, is i am credibly sorry for your loss. i can only imagine what it feels like to live this over and over and over again, the loss of a child. >> yes, it's brutal. as we were saying, this is our 20th mass shooting. our first one was sandy hook. five months after aurora, and we've been to every major one
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since, we were in buffalo, got the call that this was happening. turned around, got on a plane and flew down here. so he could respond here as well. and of course, my children when children on the targets, it is much much harder. this one is getting to all of us i think. >> this is become your life's work. >> yes, it is. we've created an organization called survivors empowered and we respond to these mass shootings to be aware that what's coming next. kind of like a blueprint for them, what they can expect, because they have no idea what they're living through. they're in shock. they're traumatized. so we have, unfortunately we have a survivors tool kit for them, and it helps them, it tells them everything to expect and gives them a blueprint on how to move forward in their new lives. >> it's amazing, because you think about the grief they have ahead of them, but guilt, the
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blame, the anger, all the stages of grief that we learned about. >> and they are not in line, they're not linear, the circle back and they bounce back like a pinball machine. you live with that your entire life. >> and what's amazing, when i open the book up to page 12, and there is hoaxes and conspiracy theories. >> yes, one of the things they need to know right away is the minute these things happen, there are facebook pages and dark web pages that come up saying that this is just an act, this didn't really happen. that everyone that is involved in this are paid actors. we had alex jones from infowars tell us that our daughter never existed to our face. >> to your face? >> to our face. >> to your face? >> to our face. and yet we have two minutes later he says she is alive and living in the bahamas. >> if only? >> if only.
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exactly. that was my response. they do it to torments and re-traumatize the survivors and the victims of these tragedies. >> you talked about the fact that jessica was 24 when she died. >> yes. >> beautiful woman. doctor that you had. you're wearing her pen. these kids were ten. ten years ago, when she lost her life, some of them were not even born. that they had no idea what they had for them. >> of course. not how can you prepare for this kind of an event? you can only hope that we start addressing the gun issue in our country so we are not burying our babies continually. >> we've seen these incremental changes, -- the organization in connecticut have made incredible strides. >> and they are good friends. we know all of those folks up there. and we were closely with them. >> but we are not seeing changes >> at the national
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level. until we have change of the national level. we haven't had a good gun law passed, or any gun law passed at the national level in almost 30 years. >> 30 years. >> so you look at these big organizations, big gun violence prevention organizations, and you have to say, what are you doing? it's the grassroots people in each states that are doing the groundwork and making change happen in their states, but we need something at the national level. you know, you can have great laws in one state, and very weak laws in the next. and that is where these killers go. to get their weapons, get their animal, get their body armor,. >> i'll just give you an opportunity. look at the camera if you. could tell anybody who's watching is lost a family member in the last couple of days. say something that can help them. >> please know that you are going to live through this, whether you think you are capable of it right now are
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not. i will tell you that the night my jessie was killed, i really thought that if i had a weapon in the house, if i had had a handgun in the house, i might not be here today. but here we are ten years later, we're doing good work. we found purpose. and we do find joy. again it's not the same kind of joy that we had expected. and we miss jessie every single day. but you have an army of survivors out in the country that are there for you. just happened to survive, just happened to survivors dot org and we can help you. that's what we're four. >> thank you. thank you so. much will be back everybody. k you so k you so much will be bac timber... fortunately, they were covered by progressive, so it was a happy ending... for almost everyone. (driver) conventionalk everybody. fastest 5g network. but, they don't. they only cover select cities with 5g.
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houston texas, just a few hours from here. where 19 children, as you know, and two teachers were murdered on tuesday. but texas senator ted cruz and former president donald trump rejected any suggestion that measures were needed to stop masticating's. >> ultimately, as we all know what's stops armed bad guys's armed good guys. [applause] >> it's the age old saying goes, the only way to stop a bag with a gun is a good guy with a gun. have you ever heard that? no you've never heard that. [applause] >> impossible not to shake my head. it's as if they don't realize what actually happened at robb elementary school, behind me. joining me now is the director of the documentary the price of
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freedom, the increasing radicalization of the gun lobby. i gotta say i'm hearing this from the former president, from senator ted cruz, the only way to start by guys is good guys with guns. they were good guys with guns, 19 of them, they didn't go inside, that didn't stop this bad guy for killing 21 people. so i can't help but think, the nra, as we all know -- with some of the work that you've done -- as a chokehold, and continues to have a chokehold on republican parties despite the fact that they've lost some power in this country from top down leadership. talk to me. >> thanks for having me. you know i think what's important to remember is it wasn't always this way. when we think of the gun debate in this country, it's always been this zero sum game that we see today -- but that's because the nra has perpetuated a lot of myths about this country, and about their founding. the nra is over 150 years old and for 100 years they said
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nothing about the second amendment. this wasn't an issue. they were about the shooting sports. they were about marksmanship. they were about gun safety. it wasn't until another convention in 1977 when there was a hostile takeover of the organization by a man name harlin -- that had that view, an absolutist view, unyielding view, that there could be absolutely no compromise on gun legislation, whatsoever -- that's led to where we are in this country on guns and gun violence. >> it's a standing, right, 1977, absolutely no compromise. this country has changed since 1977, the technology of guns has changed since 1977. the government of texas keep citing the fact that 18 year olds have been able to buy a ours in the last two or three
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decades -- would about the realization that this country has changed. what about the realization that an ar should not be in the hands of an 18 year old? or anyone possibly? really, why the obsession with a military assault style weapon, if in fact the nra was founded on the principle of gun safety? >> the short answer is it's big business for the gun industry. it does well for the national rifle association. assault style weapons have all kinds of parents and -- you can buy for those guns that add up, that's big business for the gun industry. negan -- the national rifle association also, one of their greatest victories, but they turned is one of the greatest victories is protecting the gun industry. in 2005, by saying, they
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couldn't litigate against them, unlike so many other industries -- so, all of that it's something that we need to deal with. donald trump lead into the segment. donald trump, after parting, called for the age limit to be raised from 18 to 21. called out lawmakers and said the national rifle association -- we all know that there was a closed-door meeting with wayne lapierre, and things change. that is because the national rifle association placed a 70 million dollar bet on donald trump. and it paid off. >> about many. not lives, it seems. judge ehrlich, we thank you. our coverage of the shooting in
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you're watching symone we are laying out painful new details of delayed actions by police in uvalde, texas. 19 children and two of their teachers killed in a massacre after a string of police failures. meanwhile, ali and our aides going on with business as usual. they insisted that gun control is not the answer. we are here live in houston, where thousands of gun owners are gathering. and student activist -- joins us. she was just out of she was just 11 years old when she spoke at march for our lives. remember her? we're gonna ask you what you think about these devastating attacks happening in america. i'm symone saunders and i have something to say. i will say it again.
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