you're watching symone we are laying out painful new details of delayed actions by police in uvalde, texas. 19 children and two of their teachers killed in a massacre after a string of police failures. meanwhile, ali and our aides going on with business as usual. they insisted that gun control is not the answer. we are here live in houston, where thousands of gun owners are gathering. and student activist -- joins us. she was just out of she was just 11 years old when she spoke at march for our lives. remember her? we're gonna ask you what you think about these devastating attacks happening in america. i'm symone saunders and i have something to say. i will say it again.

19 babies and two teachers were murdered on tuesday and yet another mass shooting in america. this time it was at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas. the latest accounts of law enforcement's response pain to woeful portrait of a potentially deadly inuktitut. in the days since the massacre, we learned that officers waited for 45 minutes just outside the classroom where the shooter was barricaded. this despite active shooting trainer that these officers were trained to engage with the shooter immediately. -- now they said that it had evolved from an active shooter situation tour barricaded should've situation, despite the number a number of 9-1-1 calls. -- it wasn't for 30 more minutes

that the team opted themselves to lead the officers waiting in the hall to stop the shooting. now texas department of public safety director col. steven mccraw acknowledged a knowledge finally that it was the quote unquote wrong decision. community leaders are outraged along forsman's response. >> they could've gone and quicker. they could've done something to stop this. by the looks of, it didn't do much. where is the swat team? where is everybody? >> where is everybody? >> what's going? on what's going on with law enforcement here? >> here with the latest is nbc correspondent liz maclachlan. what have we learned since yesterday's press conference? what are you hearing from committee members today? >> simone, scrutiny swirling around one gunmaker and police

here as the town tries to grapple with what happened. we learned that the police chief completed one of those active shooter trainings in december, the one that decided to make that call to wait. greg abbott said he feels misled and is livid about those initial reports that at some inaccuracies. the gun maker that provided, or made the weapon used by the shooter, daniel defends, based in georgia, known for some marketing featuring children carrying guns and video style video game style imagery that can be questionable. bringing military style weapons directly to consumer in a way similar to amazon. a lot of questions are swirling here about how it happened and how is made so easy. this community is just hurting right now. as you could see behind, me what's used to be an elementary school, it's, tillis but now a makeshift altar with 21 crosses

with those names lost. 19 beautiful children. two veteran teachers. this communities just pulling together. the barbecues. there's a lot of things going on around town today, gathering in the square, lots of people bringing teddy bears and candles. resources coming. enough spent a lot of time with red cross, mental health volunteers, spiritual care volunteers, there are just trying to be there for those families. this week's will be especially tough as funeral starts to take place as the realities starts to set in of this very tragic loss. the question we keep asking, how can we prevent this from happening again? that's an answer we just don't have. yet >> 19 babies, two teachers. nbc's liz maclachlan. thank you very much. here with me now is texas democratic congresswoman veronica escobar, who was in congress less than a year

before a mass shooter killed 23 people in her district in 2019. i'm happy to have you here today. you are someone who help constituents through a mass shooting. what are your thoughts on the response we've seen from governor abbott and other officials in texas so far? especially when we talk about consistent with services? >> first symone, let me congratulate you on your program. it's wonderful to see you. thank you for inviting. me i'm so sad it is under the circumstances. thank you for shining a light on what is going. on your, right in my first year in congress, we, el paso suffered a horrific attack. a gunman also with an assault style weapon, walked into a walmart, specifically to slaughter mexicans than immigrants. he successfully took 23 innocent lives and devastated an entire community, leaving

dozens injured. we are still living with the consequences today symone. i still have consistent with who need surgeries, to paying medical bills, but the trauma will be long-lasting. to answer your question specifically, about governor abbott, let me tell you what is going to happen. what's governor greg abbott is going to do, because it is because i see this on repeat. on governor greg abbott's watch, we have had six mass shootings. after the el paso massacre, he made all sorts of promises that he believed that the legislature should take action. that he would lead on that action. that he never wanted to see this happen again. and, in the and, not only did he not keep this promise to el paso and do texans, but he in fact health rollback protections, this is the law that he signed into the bill, the bill that he signed into

law, has essentially helped put assault weapons in the hands of 18-year-olds. that's what happened after the el paso massacre. [inaudible] he's talking about how livid he is around law enforcement, his thoughts and prayers, and ultimately, he will do nothing. we have to vote him out. >> what is your response, including governor abbott, who say this is a mental health issue, and not an 18 year olds can buy weapons of war issue? >> i will tell you, i don't agree based on what i've read so far about the killer, that he needed help. but governor greg abbott needs to look in the mirror and look at how he has slashed mental health care in the state of texas. he is try to stand in the way of texans getting access to medicated expansion. he has been successful at that. if he wants to shift the claim to mental health, once again,

that blame shifts right back to him. but, the last thing that we should be doing, if indeed someone is in a mental health crisis, is make it easier for them to get guns. and there are all sorts of very common sense laws that could have prevented the situation, and that could've helped ensure that someone in pain, someone who clearly is not in the right state of mind, would be prevented from getting access to an assault weapon. >> i think there is a lot of people not just in texas but across this country that agree with you. congressman ronica escobar, thank you for your time today. we appreciate you being with us. let's get some insight into what happened in uvalde from a law enforcement perspective. i want to bring you retired -- jim kavanaugh -- and wheels have retired seattle police chief carmen best --

you two are the perfect people to have this conversation with. let's talk about what we know. we know that the you've all the school district hosted a training for officers dealing with an active shooter situation in december. they actually did a simulation. yet, officials seemingly went against the training and the protocol that allowed more than 45 minutes to go by, nearly an hour, before authorities pursued the shooter. , jim i'm really looking for your response to what happened here and i also want you to tell us what should've happened on tuesday. >> rights symone, thanks for having me. it's good to be on with the chief. active shooter training does not include launching an emergency assault where you have to breach a room and take out a person who is basically holding hostages. most active shooters, the whole event is 10 to 12 minutes, the police go, and confront the

shooter, there's a shootout, recommit suicide, and that's the end of it. the reason this thing went so long as the killer determined, not the police, that he was gonna barricade. the killer determined that he was gonna barricade. he had life children in there that he could kill at any moment, and while he was in, there he was not at the moment executing them. so, it was an active shooter scenario, that encircled and wrapped around a hostage barricade. the mistake that was made, was, the incident commander, once he reached the reach point, where they had 19 officers inside with rifles, they were at the reach point, the killer was not actively killing children. he did fires some rounds at the officers through the door. they should've then set up the emergency assault. the chief knows about this of course. this is the way it's handled. an emergency assault has to go win so fast that to beat this

guy's trigger finger. he could kill 30 people and 30 to 40 seconds with that rifle. so you can fry over the door the screwdriver, bang on, they're trying to get in their haphazardly, it doesn't work that way. it's gotta be precision. swat team use explosive entry. they have flash bangs. they put microphones. and they know what's going on in there. this team is not gonna have that. but they did have an advantage. they could've got the keys, which they eventually did, and they could've said on to the back window, and this would be the proper way to do it. >> but they didn't do that. >> no, they didn't do. that i was talking about the right. way the right way would've been, the delay would have only been ten minutes from when bortac got there, they got their 12:15, set up the emergency russell, to rifle mineral on the window, one shot of the killer, you either miss an, you kill, i'm where you wound. and either way, when that shot comes off, the true doors open

with the key and to stacks of agents stream in until i'm. this where you can beat him before he kills more children. that could've been set up, but it was not. >> i want to get the chief in. here you just described the right way. chief, i want to know it stood out to you about the local police failures here and specifically, how would you course correct moving forward if you are leading these officers? >> some clearly we need some real strong leadership here, just as jim described, there's a tactical path and put in place to go after the threat immediately, with this element of surprise, to take the threat out. moving forward, we just have to make sure we have appropriate training, that the officers stay on that training. it is just unclear why they were not continue through and take the threat out earlier. if i was in charge, i would

definitely make sure that we would root view all training, have all training done again, and make sure the people do a little soul searching. i've been through this training myself multiple times. you go in and you go out. it's a little perplexed thing as to why that didn't happen. >> let me ask you about this flow of communication issue, because, when i gather, as a lay person that has been watching all of this, is that there was a breakdown of communication essentially of overlapping entities. you've got the local police department, you've got the -- whomever, if it was border protection or border patrol tactical unit, you've got the state agencies, how do you manage communication between various agencies? what is the protocol? >> well i'm sorry was that for the chief? >> i think you are both poised to answer. chief all here from, you than gentle give you the last word on. it >> sounds.

great typically, the situations can be a little chaotic with everybody responding in and are multiple amount of information coming through. that said, you try to get on the same frequency and identify the inches incident commander, provide information, about where people are, and start moving in that direction. this is without question is gonna be chaotic in the beginning. somebody's gotta get on there and take the lead. >> especially in the smaller jurisdictions like this, symone, uvalde p d had 35 officers, the school district has six officers, they're gonna be on the same wavelength for sure. -- they can get on one channel i don't think that was so much of a problem at least we haven't heard yet i think the brigadier problem writ large for americas polices this and the chief knows with active shooter training we all went through it,

i was the commander i was in the hallway, a lock to doors in the whole way and the whole thing blew up. it stopped. because the patrol officers were not given breaching tools. we had two horrific cases in america, virginia tech, where the killer went in and chain law with doris and killed 32 people with pistols. and there was the case in lancaster, pennsylvania, where the guy came in with his own two-by-fours and barricaded the doors. after those two cases, we should have an american law enforcement said, okay, we've got to be more prepared to do breaching with our initial responding officers. and we just have done a poor job on that and it needs to change right now. it needs to change, we need reform. jim, chief best, thank you both for being here. coming up, as victims families struggle to understand why key steps were not taken, that may have saved their children, republican leaders at the nra

convention, also in texas, they're warning against any new gun laws. later, we're gonna go to president biden's new call to action to make america safer. first my colleague richard is here. richard, take it away. >> thank you simone, some stories we're watching this hour. vice president kamala harris visited buffalo new york. she spoke at the memorial service of ruth winfield a, killed in the mass shooting two weeks ago. she met with other victims families and visited the crime scene as well. biden doubling the commencement -- here to the graduating class to get engage in publicly. he called this an inflection point for this country and the world. and world leaders met an urgent food supply concerns and russia's black sea blockade. that blockade has stopped shipments of grain which both ukraine and europe depend on. more simone, right after the

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the failures of authority in the mass shooting at an elementary school in uvalde texas, where a man killed 19 children, to teachers, the national rifle association is holding its national meeting just a few hours drive away in houston. high republicans, honey, have not shied away. cruz of texas, and former president donald trump took the stage last night with the former president defending the second amendment while rejecting calls for gun reform laws, drying the attentions of gun enthusiasts and protesters. >> we all know they want total gun confiscation. we know that. this would be a first step, once they get the first step, they'll take the second step, third, fourth and then they'll have a whole different look at the second amendment, which is

by the way, totally under siege. but we stopped it for four years. for four years we stopped, and you gotta stop it. >> but the former president said there, is a lie. joining me now from houston is nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster, you've been covering the convention, check tell me about the protesters and the convention goers. how have they reacted about the new legislation? >> yeah, simone, it's less of a reaction that -- more of a reflection of the divide that you're seeing here at the convention center. president trump was addressing people who are gonna enthusiasts. they came here to celebrate what is their second amendment rights. they're here to look at the newest models of guns. the newest telescopes, holsters. they're here celebrating. that for many of them my conversations with them, even though they acknowledge the tragedy that they see, four and a half hours away from where we stand, right now. they say it's more about mental

health. it's more about school safety and better security in schools. that's how they view this. but then you go across the street, and yesterday we saw more than 1000 protesters. today still see more than a handful of protesters, now, at the entrance as folks are coming in. they're saying it's about easy access to guns. this -- they want to see a universal background check. they want to see red flag laws that better control access to guns for people who have mental health issues. so you have a real divide that's their. and rather than people reacting to what they've heard specifically from former president trump, or a texas senator ted cruz, we are seeing is calling for the changes that they believe would make the shootings that we saw, not only earlier this week, but when we saw in buffalo, when saw in sandy hook ten years ago, make the shootings less likely. i think it's more reflection of the divide that we're seeing in our society, right now, symone. next check, so much more for

your reporting. we will be watching. >> let's bring in joyce, she's an nbc legal analyst. we also have robert barnes, he's a supreme court correspondent for the washington post. okay y'all are gonna break this down for us from a legal perspective. so, joyce, the former president says the democratic lawmakers are using evil day to rally for universal background checks and more restrictive gun laws. even if such lies -- which is true, that is true. lawmakers are talking about that. even if such laws are passed on the state level, how have, and really how can judges undermine these measures? yeah, well, first it's important to say that what's being activated for common sense measures that make us all safer, nobody is coming for your guns, in the word of the former presidents. the question that you pose is what's going on in the federal courts? how will judges react. the problem that we face is

that it least since howler, which was a 54 supreme court decision authored by justice scalia in 2008, it's become a much more permissive environment for gun ownership. the second amendment language talks about rail relegated militias -- at least in the home. from there things have gotten broader. >> so let's talk, about the supreme court, then. and robert, you're one of our supreme court gurus out there in the washington post, as i like to say. the current supreme court is set to issue a ruling in the case of new york state rifle and -- versus bruin, that decision is gonna come december. can you talk to us a little bit about the ruling, how could lead to the expansion of second amendment gun rights? >> this is a case that gun rights advocates have been

asking the court to take for a long time. they said that heller established the right to keep a gun in the home for self-defense. but it hasn't clarified if you can have a right to a gun outside the home. and so this is challenging a very restrictive new york law that says that you have to have a special permit, a special reason, to get a permit to carry a gun outside the home. and new york's his various restrictive. california's, maryland, there are a number of states with these gun control measures that are quite restrictive about who can get a permit to carry a gun outside the home. >> so joyce, let's turn very quickly, though, to buffalo, along these lines. in the days before the mass shooting in buffalo, a federal appeals court in new york did reject a california law that bans the sale of some semi

automatic weapons to anyone under the age of 21. we know that similar bans are being blocked in other parts of the country. how did texas really get to the point where it's harder for 18-year-olds to get a drivers license than by a semi automatic weapon like an ar-15? how is this permeating people across the country? >> so these matters are largely left up to states and each state legislature can set its own laws. they are subject to review by the courts. but symone something that i thinking about a lot this week. alabama passed far less restrictive measures -- when that step to passed i was delusional by phone calls from some very conservative people that wanted me to help them figure out how i could help them keep guns out of their building. out of their office, out of their facility.

there is sheriffs concerned about people concerned about bringing guns into polling places. people concerned about guns in churches. everyone seems to want to support these lacks gun laws until they hit too close to home. there's an echo of that of course this week -- you can't take a gun into an nra convention because people understand that we need sensible restrictions that make things more safe. unfortunately, this has a lot more to do with politics then data on wet makes people safe, right now. >> and you can't take a gun into the nra convention because the secret service does not play that. joyce, robert thank you very very much. after the break, the new plea for gun reform action from the progressive caucus. that message and why reoccurring massacres aren't inevitable, and where the fight goes next when one of the members joins me, right after this. members joins me,

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to little league it down on my hands and knees and begged my colleagues, find a path forward here. what are we doing? why are we here? whatever he doing? >> that was an emotional senator chris murphy on the senate floor this week. he is really echoing the feelings of so many americans whose hearts have been broken again after seeing more children die from gun violence at school, unnecessarily. and then nothing changes. the chair of the fridge -- and she's condemning the lack of action in which she calls the march of violence, saying quote, it does not have to be this way. our children are dying because the united states senate refuses to act, and because republicans continue to push for more guns instead of taking guns off of the streets.

this isn't inevitable. i'm joined now by a member of the congress congresswoman rep. shontel brown -- thanks for being. here i want to begin by talking about the mood of the congressional progressive caucus, and democrats as a whole. how hard it is to keep fighting? >> first of all, thank you again thank you for having me symone and congratulations on your new show. when i think about the situation that most recently happened in texas, and as an aunt of six, with some of my nieces and nephews being of school age, it is created a sense of urgency that we have to deal with these situations right now. we cannot sit back and take this for granted. and grow numb. i know that people are grateful for the thoughts and prayers, and as, a person of faith, i too share my thoughts and

prayers and condolences. but now is the time for policy change. -- we have to start to act. and we cannot let this issue grow cold and, not because republicans were unwilling to stop and do the jobs to their culture. do >> i'm looking for the plate. because where i'm from, you pass the play when people start preaching. but this isn't just a texas problem, this is an american problem. i want to look at your home state of ohio. the ohio department of health says the state just had two of the most violent years on record, 1760 20 hines died from firearms last year, and 1764 were fatally shot in 2020. how is this impacting your constituents? >> it is devastating. again, you see the numbers, in northeast ohio alone just this, year 62 deaths, six of them

being children under the age of 18. i personally have been impacted over the years where i have lost three young men who have not reached the age of 21 due to gun violence. this is a very personal issue for me. the people of ohio's congressional district can count on me to be a large and loving voice on this issue, because it is so close and so personal. i cannot imagine if i had to receive a phone call as a related to my nieces and nephews who had undergone such a tragedy is the one that experienced in texas. this is a country wide problem, and it has no party affiliation. gun violence has taken a hold of many places across this country, and it has been indiscriminate. unfortunately, it seems now that the issues have been hitting the black and brown

communities the hardest due to white supremacy. again, we have to rise to the occasion right now, and confront these issues. with the uncomfortable conversations that must be had with my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, who want to say now is not the time to try and politicize this. this is not politicizing. people have been grieving incident after incident after incident. i think one of my colleagues said, it is no longer insanity, this is against humanity when we continue to let this happen and go unchecked. >> i agree with you. i can't let you go know yet, because i want to ask you about your district in ohio very quickly. ohio voters created a bipartisan -- but republicans in the state refused to support the non-republican proposals. -- what is your response to this and whether folks in ohio doing

about this? >> i think people, and this is not to point blank, these are purely facts, the republics [inaudible] when they are intentional about disregarding the constitution, -- the state legislature will be running on maps that have been rejected potentially five times. this shows the american people who is impeding progress in this country. people who voted against the babies to be able to get formula, but also want to promote that they are pro-life. this is a party if, you are pro-life, you'd be thinking about these issues much differently. when we talk about progress, it is a democrats have been delivering things like the bipartisan infrastructure law, save the u.s. postal service, delivered on reducing domestic violence, all the things that

are critically important. [inaudible] yes, there is more work to be done. they can count on me and the other people of my district to continue to get results as a democrat. >> all right congresswoman rep. shontel brown with her receipts. thank you. still ahead, how some on the right are going to point to things like declining church attendance and wokeness for mass shootings, instead of how easy it is to get an assault weapons. but for us, we want to pause to we'll remember the 21 beloved victim of the senseless shooting in uvalde. the lives of these two teachers and 19 babies were cut short far too soon. we should remember not not them for those final tragic moments, but what made each and every one of them so special. they will be dearly, dearly missed. will be dearly,tate, missed landscaper larry and his trusty crew...

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traumatize is in entire community, republican heavy hitters have a lot of ideas about what is to blame. take a listen. >> the fact is there will always be sick and demonic souls who wish to harm the innocent and see malice triumph over good. >> absent father, declining church attendance. social media bullying, violent online content. >> we stop teaching values and so many of our schools -- were indoctrinating children in things like crt. >> i'm, you'll notice that nowhere in that litany of grievances they mention 18 year olds having access to assault

weapons. here's our political panel -- lincoln project cofounder and former director of the california republican party, mike madrid. it's good to see you both. mike, the folks that don't know, mike and i will fellows back in the day -- i think you are the perfect person to discuss this topic with. why are so many top republicans making this about anything other than guns? >> well the strategy of dodging, deflecting, and delaying is actually textbook for a political problem when you don't have any of the issues right, politically. 80% of americans support some sort of meaningful restrictions on who has access to these types of weapons of war. republicans know that. they're at a deficit in virtually every congressional deficit with voters on this issue. their aim is to make sure that they don't have to take a

stance on this, and to delay as much as possible putting up as much -- as many red herrings as they possibly can and trying to run out the media cycle in the hopes that they won't feel the political pressure [inaudible] >> so cleave, let's turn to the white house for a second. biden spoke at a graduation ceremony for the university of delaware. let's take a listen to what he said. >> as i speak, those parents are literally preparing to bury their children. in the united states of america. bury their children. there's too much violence. too much fear. too much grief. let's be clear, evil came to that elementary school classroom in texas. >> cleave, how is the white

house responding to what is pressure for executive action on this issue? vice president was asked this on the tarmac leaving buffalo? >> sure, you have vice president harris in buffalo, president biden heading to evolve the tomorrow. one of the things they're saying is that -- in addition to grieving with the families, speak the truth about what needs to happen when it comes to gun legislation. >> so we actually have our special guest with us on the panel today. i want to bring in gun violence activists naomi wildly or. naomi i'm so happy to hear. what do you want to say? would he want to say to u.s. and elected officials? state officials? you are a young person that's so close to this issue. what are your thoughts today? >> my thoughts are that thoughts and prayers aren't enough. i heard president biden speak a

couple of days ago. he really echoed the message that all politicians have been, that it's not right, we need to fight this. i don't know, it's not something that we haven't heard before. i remember watching that with my mom, and waiting for him to say something different, something -- which he was gonna, do with the politicians we're gonna do. all we heard was that it was a tragedy. which is what we hear again, and again, and again. marchers and talking and conversations are very important, but would actually needs to happen is to register people to vote. voting the right people in. actual tangible change as opposed and saying that some prayers, the same conversations, the same sentiments we hear over and over again. >> mike i see you shaking your head. we talked about it, but there are folks that you heard earlier on this program, republicans, that really seem publicly unified that the availability of these weapons of war is not a problem. i'm just wondering is this what they're saying in private?

>> look, that's a fascinating question. there are so many issues where republican elected officials and republican leaders are saying something publicly that is contrary to something that will tell you in private. let me say this, in 1992, i was actually a member of the nra. i was a young republican, i believe firmly in the right of the second amendment, to own a gun. by 1993, when year later, i quit my membership and never [inaudible] you can't begin to -- in 1994 about the assault weapons ban. republican elected officials knew that what they were doing was going to be the wrong decision for the public. so we passed it, we had ten years of an assault weapons ban, the numbers on mass shootings declined precipitously, and then what happened? the ban expired. and now mass shootings have

gone through the roof. yes, republican elected officials know that the science, the dad, at the anecdotal results that we see every day are problematic. they know that children are dying, and yet they were refused to do the right thing. most of them, not all of them, simone, but of but -- they know that this is not the right thing to do. what's required of us is exactly what they've always said. taking action, stepping up and keeping that momentum going. we cannot allow this to disappear in the rearview mirror. we cannot. >> mike madrid, cleave, and naomi wobbler, thank you very much. next, my symone says, with a message for elected leaders. if you're not okay with weapons being on our street, it's up for you to do something about. it i want you to tune in an msnbc at 6 pm tonight and tomorrow night to see my friend reporting live from value texas

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country has a responsibility to do something about it. i'm talking to our mayors, our governors, state legislatures, and yes members of the united states congress. look, united states -- they can't keep claiming the pro-life when the babies they're protecting can't even live to see middle school. they can't even claiming the pro-life when they can't go to a grocery store on a saturday afternoon without being slaughtered. vice president kamala harris was in buffalo new york today when she attended the funeral of one of ten victims who was killed by a white supremacist just two weeks ago. we didn't even get to lay the victims to harass before the next massacre. columbine survivors are now parents -- these weapons of war or killing people in our communities. out of all the developed companies we are outliers it's only in america. where people can attend a concert in las vegas and become a statistic in the largest mass

shooting today. there is ways to put it into this, y'all. the federal 1984 assault weapons ban is an example. this is a graph that shows the number of mass shootings that shows when an assault weapons was used before, and after the ban. when it was in effect just 53 shootings happen. after the ban, that number jumped to 182. don't tell me it cannot be done, because it has been done before. we have to do it for these babies in uvalde, who are just looking forward to summer break. we have to do it for that father in buffalo who just went to the store to get a son a birthday cake. we have to do it for the young people who don't have a good time at pulse nightclub. we have to do it for people who are worship-ing in charleston south carolina, in sacramento, california. in pittsburgh, pella sylvania. america, if this is not who we are, if this is not who we want

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for state controller, a only yiu will save taxpayers money. wait, who, me? me? no, not you. yvonne yiu. yvonne yiu. not me. good choice. for 25 years, yiu worked as an executive at top financial firms. managed hundreds of audits. as mayor, she saved taxpayers over $55 million. finding waste. saving money. because... yiu is for you.

yiu is for you. exactly. thanks for spending your yvonne yiu. democrat for controller. being connected. it's vital for every student. so for superintendent of public instruction, tony thurmond, it's a top priority. closing the digital divide, expanding internet access for low-income students and in rural areas. it's why thurmond helped deliver more than a million devices and connected 900,000 students to broadband over the last two years - to enable online learning. more than 45,000 laptops went to low-income students. re-elect tony thurmond. he's making our public schools saturday with. me i'm symone saunders and you can catch me here on msnbc every saturday and sunday at 4 pm eastern, and on peacock, we're a new episode on the nbc have every monday and tuesday. you can also hit me up on

social media. i have things there to say as well. you can find new things and exciting stuff that's in the works on instagram, twitter, facebook, and tiktok. politicsnation with rev. al sharpton live in buffalo, new york is next. >> good evening and welcome to politicsnation. we are live from buffalo, new york, where today was the funeral services for 86 year old ruth witfield. and at this funeral, the last of the ten victims killed by an admitted white supremacist, in fact, had written his own 180 pages, and winds