hi everybody, i'm yasmin vossoughian. live for you in, uvalde texas. the latest seen on what is becoming an american ritual. the president of this country trying to comfort the victims of a mass shooting here, yet again. president biden in the first lady attending a mass right now as we speak after arriving in uvalde and visiting the memorial here at robb elementary school. the president visibly stake in, moved by the scene that he

encountered. texas governor here as well. the crowd shouting at him as he arrived in a plea for action. uvalde needs help, they yelled. hoping for something, anything. from either leader to give them hope. that things are going to change. after the mass, the president is going to meet with families of the victims of the shooting that killed 21 people, 19 of them children. he will face a community thieving with anger. after what they have learned about police mishandling of this situation. mishandling of what is now led to the big news just into a short time ago. a justice department review of what happened. >> i haven't trusted law enforcement here in a while. >> why is? that >> they're very slow-moving. very slow-moving.

anytime we've had situations, they're very slow. >> i believe the parents would have done a lot better if without law enforcement here. >> we're going to talk more about that failure and the justice department review coming up. including your relations about the active shooter training the police force and the chief received just months ago. the reenactment of that shooter training. we have the photos of that. the president is also going to hear the tales and survivors. i talked to the sister of a teacher who is in the building that they. during the shooting. >> i got up and i told my husband there is an active shooter there. my sister is there. i don't know, what do you do? you start thinking the worst. you start thinking this is something that would never happen in our community. >> i'm going to show you more that interview ahead. she has video that she showed

us that her sister accidentally sent to her and she was trying and hoping she would live through that shooting. and the text message exchanges from her sister not knowing if she survived. but we do want to start with the president here and with me now is nbc -- who is outside that town square where the memorial continues to build along with julian gesture who was in delaware for us where the president just came from, as he is here visiting now in uvalde, texas. let me start with you on this one. and just kind of talking to me first about the reaction, the personal momentsthat you've specifically been hearing in your reporting especially at the residents are hearing and seeing the president visiting this community today. after this horrific horrific tragedy. >> yasmin, it's just been heartbreaking. this is such a tight-knit community. just about everyone here has some sort of connection to this tragedy. so it's been really difficult

to try to not get emotional myself. a lot of these stories are just really hard to hear. i'm just about a half mile or so from you and this town square and the crowd has been getting thicker and thicker all day but it's very quiet here. people are very reflective. piles of stuffed animals seem to just be growing. one man and police officer here who is not on the scene. was actually doing a high-speed chase on the other side of town and lost his sister, his little sister in this tragedy. so that was a tough one to hear, the gas station attendant who is hearing about it was bursting into tears. here in uvalde a lot of the communities hurting. and i think with the presidents visit today a lot of it we've heard is that they are demanding answers. demanding change and seeking comfort and support right now. biden here in uvalde, just about a half mile away from here now at the sacred heart roman catholic church.

and at that church, there was a vigil last night. a really touching, emotional vigilant where a lot of the members talked about these kids. about their hobbies and dreams and interests. and you've really got a sense of their personalities. that was through broken tears. and so there is a lot of faith in this community. a lot of folks looking to that for comfort and support right now. president biden before that a visiting the school elementary as you mentioned. and laying flowers down and greg abbott also showed up there, governor, here. and you could hear some audible booing from the crowd. people asking for change, asking for accountability, from their leaders. and i think it's just shows there's a lot of emotion, some of them include anger and confusion about the police response. about how to prevent something

like this in the future. especially now that funerals are starting to come up this week. the reality really sitting in. there's a lot of shock and logistics that first. now it's really sinking in that these lives are gone. this community is broken and it will forever have something missing from its heart. there is support coming from across the world. one bakery nearby is getting calls from all over including australia. wanting to buy baskets to send to the other teachers, survivors. putting money on a gift card so whoever this committee wants to go in and have a coffee can get one for free. so that's really touching that, it's really uniting right now. it's about love. it's about coming together and being a strong stronger. seems to be where people are putting their focus, where they're finding support. red cross also deployed here, we've got a mental health and spiritual care. advisers that i've been talking to that have been dealing with the families, trying to just

offer an ear. there's really nothing that can make the situation better. they just have to get through it and heal. he has been. >> you're exactly right. they want this community wants accountability and even hear that from some people. as well. and you'll, as we've heard from the president and he said, he knows with this feels like. he's been here before. we've talked about this. but he too wants action. the president has talked about the fact that he wants action. the protesters here that we need change to actually to the president. make it better, kids should be able to go to school every single day and be safe. something needs to be done. we also know this president is hampered by a congress with a very slim majority. barely none, really. and it seems as if the filibuster is staying in place. considering that we have heard from senator joe manchin so far. what is the plan from the white

house as we reflect on the presidents visits today, jewels? >> yasmin, first i want to make a note on the accountability side you just mentioned with that news this afternoon. the first federal action taken in all of this which is the permanent justice opening that review of the law enforcement response. to the eovaldi shooting. so they will be releasing those findings. hopefully that's a step towards accountability there but as for gun reform. the president administration's line and all of this has been, biden's tapped out on executive orders. it is up to congress to act and so he's engaged in those discussions. senator of maryland said as much this morning, biden will continue to do so. and he has to because as you mentioned, he is facing a mensch pressure to take action on this. now vice president harris was at the site of a different mass shooting in recent weeks yesterday. in buffalo. take a listen to what she said

is top of her mind. >> we know what works on this. it includes let's have an assault weapons ban. you know what assault weapon is? you know how an assault weapon was designed? it was designed for a specific purpose. to kill a lot of human beings quickly. an assault weapon is a weapon of war. with no place, no place in a civil society. >> now, based on my conversations with senators last week as well as lawmakers on the sunday show this morning. assault weapons ban is not really at the top of the list of what they can get gop support for, as you mentioned. the 60 vote filibuster. threshold. something we might be able to engage in conversations with. is releasing the asian limits for a rifle such as the air 15 from 15 to 21. we'll continue to see how biden

's ag with lawmakers because it's not going to be kind of this magic wand executive order approach to all of this. the goal is bipartisan change. so that it's not a viewed as this one side versus the other. yasmin. >> let me just ask you, jewels, before i let you go because he did raise a good point. there and if you don't know the answer, by all means say it. so do we know where summer hooligans and more moderate republicans stand with it comes to raising the age of middle east and obtaining a ours? and we heard from any of them? >> some actually have indicated an openness to this. even in the house was out this week but you had adam kinzinger indicate that maybe 18 is a little too young to have that sense you need to be 21 to buy a handgun. republicans keep talking about red flag laws and background checks. but they don't really have a good enough answer as to why an 18-year-old should be able to go into a gun store and purchase a weapon like this.

so senator chris murphy said this morning that they actually are having encouraging conversations with republicans on this matter. so that's definitely an angle to what, she has been. >> encouraging, i just want to remind folks of course the president still here in uvalde texas. he arrived around 11 am. came behind me paying his respects them oil here. we're looking at the motorcade as well, the presidents currently in meth, i believe, at sacred heart in uvalde, texas. he's been there for but the last hour or so. after this, it's really we're gonna be seeing him coming out of the church there. heading towards the civic center in which he will then read the families of the victims providing any sort of solace, any sort of comfort. that he can't of them. the president the first lady visiting with them. along with his team. they will then move on to meet with first responders as well before they head back out of town. heading back east. we'll give you kind of the

tiktok of it as we see the president emerging from sacred heart, as a mass completes. jewels, liz, thank you both, appreciate it. i want to bring in former had, obama hug secretary julián castro. he's going to be with us for the last two days. along with mayor of san antonio. so knows the small town business quite well. this is your state. you know this place well. you know you've all the well. let's talk first about this incident report. that's coming out of the doj. good news, they're launching this kind of independent incident report. this is not state sanctioned, it's an independent in the report. one of the mean? when i'm being told a means essentially this is to teach folks how for this not to happen again. it is to regain credibility within the police department. to understand the actions that were taken and what exactly may have gone wrong. this is not necessarily

something that will find criminal liability. was there possibly negligence they could find? and then why would that lead to? what do you make of this, because yesterday you said they need to launch a federal investigation. this isn't. that >> it may not be investigation, it's the first step. and the community here is outraged. and the trust has been broken vocal on enforcement and the law enforcement generally because they believe that there was a total failure here to follow the appropriate protocol. that may have saved lives. in order to build that trust backup, and also to make sure that there is accountability. if this was mishandled. we know already that the wrong decision was ultimately made i want to go in. the accountability and then it is important, i think, that for a loan forsman agencies whether their school districts for cities or federal agencies. how do they get better about

this responding in a situation? how did they make sure that the training you have actually sticks. because the training that they had two months ago didn't seem to make a difference here. so what are they going to do differently from these lessons learned? >> here's the thing. we should have been better. we should have been there. the trainings were, gonna show the training a little bit later on. they did the training two months ago. they did reenactments. they had a man on the floor reenacting being shot by an active shooter facing off against police officers. forecasting was to come. they were ready, we have been here before. and so you can only, and i guess we are saying. i totally are saying. we can only imagine what that makes people feel. that our hearing this is an incident report. they won more, the warmer action. you saw the crowd here shouting at both the president and the governor, booing him. something needs to change. >> that's what they called for is change and that's why the accountability part of this is really going to be important. it winds surprise me at this

moves from and some review to investigation pretty quickly. we saw the story that texas gave on four times in four days about what happened. there's plenty here to investigate. perhaps the doj will announce some i think that accountability is going to be very important for the healing here in uvalde. and for the confidence of other communities. god forbid that this happened in other community but as i said, in the last hour, given everything that we've talked about. the accessibility of guns, the gun culture that we live in america, the tendency to see copycats. we're likely going to see this in another school. a grocery store. a shopping mall. y store. a shopping mall.

inspire and say we can move forward. we remember barack obama. leading congregation in amazing grace after charleston. we remember ronald reagan after the challenger disaster in 1986. i think that president biden should say words of consolation and comfort. try and inspire change today. because that's when americans are looking for. i can tell as well, secretary castro, sticking with me. thank you for sticking with me through this when i know the care lot about this community. it's incredibly important to you in the future. so thank you. we got a lot more coming up everybody. we have more the presidents visit here to uvalde. as well as that big news from the justice department that we just discussed. this incident report that they are now launching.

a deeper look at the training the department just had on exactly the situation. and after the break, to parents who lost their child in the parkland school shooting. three years ago. and their mission to help the younger generations influence gun reform. we'll be right back.

welcome back everybody, the president and dr. jill biden, the first lady, currently attending math here at sacred heart church, visiting uvalde after the awful massively that killed 21 people including 19 children. after that they're gonna head to -- see some movement here at any moment. and on to the fairgrounds where they will be with first responders before departing at uvalde. we will continue to track their movements and bring new, as we go. we're wondering of course the resident will address the residents of uvalde, and what he is thinking of sharing with the parents that are now facing this unspeakable loss. and a future ahead without their babies, a future than ever thought they'd they'd have to live. the mothers and fathers of these children, that were killed at the elementary school behind me, they're going through this grief and it's aggrieved that no parent should ever face. it's a groove i hope i never, i

pray ever face. all of us pray we never face. having to plan fema's for the beloved children killed and act of senseless violence, my next guest unfortunately they're facing this grief, they have faced this type of future. -- whose sons joaquin died at parkland, florida school shooting and they've changed gun reform organization. welcome to you both, emmanuel and patricia, thank you so much for joining us. my first question to you is, what is ahead for these parents? how do they get through this? >> [inaudible] [inaudible]

we never [inaudible] >> [inaudible] >> we're having audio issues, i think it's incredibly important to be speaking with manuel and patricia about their experiences as so many families are looking to anyone that has gone through something like this. this unspeakable tragedy for guidance, for him to try to get them back we'll take a quick break as we are here live from uvalde, texas. we'll be right back. live from uvalde, texas. and in it. mostly. here to meet those high standards is the walgreens health and wellness brand. over 2000 high quality products. we'll be right back.

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do parents do to go forward after losing their future? their baby? parents are supposed to die before their children and in this case that has not happened. manual and patricia and oliver whose son joaquin died in the parkland school shooting is joining us now to talk more about that with us in the work they are doing. with change the ref gun reform organization. an organization that they launched. manuel, patricia, happy to have you back. hopefully we'll have any audio issues of cimarron so stinking for sticking with us. would you tell these parents, what's ahead for them, how do you get through? >> i would give you my personal opinion as a mom. there is no way that you can -- consolation without -- the only thing that i can tell you if that they have to just

to pray and pray and try to get some mental stability down there. because the moment it will come through time. very slow. i'm just compassionate every single one of them that is going through this. every single feeling that is leaving this moment. and at sending my love. and endure to be able to be able to move forward with all this. >> manuel, when you value? as joaquin's father. >> i mean, peterson just said. i would think that mothers have an instinct that we don't have. the emotional side of connection between a mom and the kid. it's, we can't beat that. you will find what to do later on.

no rush. no immediate decisions. the process will take some time. and you will find reasons to keep believing and do things. >> you have been in the position before, both of you, in speaking with the president. getting a visit from the president of the united states after an unspeakable tragedy like this one. can you take us inside a conversation like this one. what is it that the president said to you in your time of grief? >> while, in my time, the president was donald trump. in a week after speaking to us, which i refused to go, he had already spoke to the nra leaders. so it was very hypocritical from him to pretend to be on both sides. this time we have a president that we trust and least we did,

he promise change. now we see a little bit of the same problem. i wonder if he's going to take a break this weekend because a memorial day. or instead of that, he will prioritize the problem. 24/7 issue. you cannot be there visiting and then go back and let's see if next week can get together. this is an urgency in the president should be leading the pack. raise your voice, mr. biden, and make things happen in congress and the senate. >> you've also met with president biden in the past as well. obviously launching this organization after the loss of your son. what type of change do you want to see from this president after the shooting happening yet again? >> the thing that -- it goes back to accountability. i have a listening to this accountability to law enforcement since the last 48 hours.

i just want to make sure that we don't lose the accountability on our senators and lawmakers. yes, the law enforcement took a lot of time to getting their, shame on them, they have to pay for it. but our leaders have taken decades. if not more to bring solutions. so let's not lose the point here. we want irresponsible behind this to be accountable. all accountable. patricia, myself, we have been holding accountable president biden every time we think he's part of the problem. so this is not a political thing. let's not be preaching that comfort zone where the -- is the problem. problem is that we don't have laws that will defeat neither the nra, the gun industry or the gun laws. >> into those that are not willing to build the filibuster. let me remind you, senators, we elected you.

it's not a thing to the side. you owe us as a citizen of this country to take action. we cannot believe in like we are in war because we are a first world country. a free country that we used to say. that is not true. but please do your job. >> ronnie well, patricia, we are so incredibly sorry for the loss of her son, joaquin. i can imagine the pain they feel every day especially on days like today in the past few days of this tragic shooting. we thank you for joining us. and you make such an incredible point and that accountability needs to be held for these officers but also lawmakers. that have not gone inside to rescue those kids for decades. thank you so much, we appreciate it. i spoke with the sister of a special needs teacher who was at the elementary school behind me the day of the shooting. joanna santos. and she told me about the day and how awful it was for her.

how agonizing it was for her. and how it's impacting her family now. >> i immediately thought of my sister. i said, let me see if i can get a hold of her. and see if she can give me any information. so i text message her. because they didn't know the situation was, i didn't want her phone to be ringing. and when i got my phone, she had messaged me as well and said please pray for me. there is a shooting. there is an active shooting. and so that's where i knew it was real. >> what did you do at that moment? >> i got up and i told my husband there is an active shooter there. my sisters there. i don't know, what do you do? you start thinking the worst. you start thinking this is something that would never happen in our community. when did you hear from her next?

. her messages were long and very short. and ver which is something that first admissions i told her, can you barricade yourself in any way. and she says, i first i thought she said that she was in a closet, but she said they were in a changing room. more in a changing room and we're trying to get the kids quiet because we don't know where he's at in the building. >> special needs kids quiet. >> right. different levels also so i can imagine that was pretty hard. >> and then what did you hear from her? >> she message me back and says, we don't have any contact with anyone, any information you can get me will be helpful, because no one is giving us any information here. so, i was giving her whatever i can get off a social media. but again, we don't really know what's true and what's people making up things. >> i want pointed you realize

that she was safe and did she realize she was safe? >> oh my god, it was hours. it was hours. like i said, her messages were very short and sporadic and just, are you okay, and for a long time she wouldn't answer me. i was getting crazy, one of the last messages i got from her actually, i haven't even asked her about it, i don't know if she realized it. or if she did it on purpose. i mean if she meant to do it, but she said what was a video and i know if the phone had dropped or if she put it on the ground, i didn't realize. it was just a video of a mature if it was leaves or grass, all good hair was the chaos in the background. >> oh my gosh. >> at that point, i was wondering if she was okay, did she drop the phone, or did something else happen. >> when did you learn that she

was okay? >> i just kept on messaging, are you okay, it was constant and -- i was playing was because she was busy with her kids, getting them to safety. it was several hours and she finally said, i'm safe. the fbi came and got us and we are at the civic center. >> have you seen or since? >> i have not. >> why is that? >> she's pretty torn up. she doesn't really want to see anybody. she's processing. at >> two young kids, an eight year old, and a five year old daughter and son. your daughter's been sick for the last few days. >> yeah, my daughter has been sick off and on. finally yesterday to go to the er, can't figure out what's wrong with her. the doctor said she has stress induced shingles. an eight-year-old with shingles. >> that's a disease that children usually get?

>> usually, yes. >> and as the doctor nowhere was from, do you think it's from this? >> i'm more than positive it is, it's all she talks about, it's all she sees, or trying to get to a point where we're taking away their tablets at any source of social media. i want them to stop watching it, i don't want them to be looking at that all the time. i think it's very mess it's messing with their head. >> -- will be effective at this drawdown defective in this forever, her sister will be affected by this forever, they will still have to deal with the tragedy they faced here in uvalde. thank you to joanna for that. i also want to mention as you are watching, that interview with joanna we're also watching the motorcade go to its next location from sacred heart -- verge the mass there. they are now moving on to the fairgrounds, or they'll then be greeting families of the victims of this tragedy,

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active shooter training course back in december. and bc -- looks into the training, the entire department has so far received. >> just two months prior to horror in uvalde, the schools police department posted on facebook about the active shooter training it received at a local high school to prepare as best as possible for any situation that may arise. now questions about whether they followed it. >> there has to be an independent investigation as to what occurred. >> in fact the school district -- peter arradondo who's a delayed 19 officers from rushing into during the deadly rampage recently completed an eight hour training course on active shooters themself in december, according to state records. >> what's the most egregious mistake in your opinion? >> we should've done whatever it takes, to be down walls, to beat down that door, whatever we needed to do because at a

minimum, that may have drawn the attacker's attention away from those children. >> the texas commission on law enforcement, produced a response playbook for school peace officers, in the wake of parkland and santa fe. notice the priority of life scale is number one innocence, number two first responders, with the mandate to stop the killing officers first priority is to move in and confront the attacker. the document later says a first responder unwilling to place the lives of the innocent above their own safety should consider another career field. frank deangelis was the principal at columbine during a tragedy but change the country's lands on school shootings, and the guidance in these situations. >> the number one lesson learned, was instead of securing the perimeter or single officers the analyst says he cannot comment on what officer should've done here. the public demands more information about what happened and why. what happened and why.

we're about to get into that. just want to tell you folks we heard that the president as he came out of the church. protesters were calling for, we want change, we need change, kids need to go to school safely. something needs to be done and the president mouth, we will. so the question is how is the president going to get something done. and what will that change look, we're going to get into that over the next hour or so. want to bring in now dermot shea, former new york city police commissioner. joining us now. commissioner, thanks for joining us on this, we appreciate it. let's talk first about the announcement of this incident report by the doj. really just looking into any possible wrongdoings when when wrong. it seems as if this is an attempt to reestablish credibility with the organization, with a police arm in here. along with serving as a teaching tool so that something like this doesn't happen again.

this is not some don't provide any sort of real accountability, though, if we're speaking about people actually being held accountable. what do you make of this? >> i've been saying since the day of this awful tragedy that there was no doubt in my mind that there's going to be an in-depth look back at this entire incident. this is something that the law enforcement community shares with each other, it's something that we've learned from and try to learn best practices from. i think the most critical point is that it's being done by a outside agency. there is no doubt with everything that's happened thus far, transparency and believability are getting critical to this report. it's going to service something frankly that the entire nation can learn from. and try to make sure that any mistakes that were made if they were made it appears that from what we know at this point, that there were mistakes made. and that replicated in god forbid future incidents.

>> i get that this is being launched by an independent investigation. but the fact that this is only serving released a teaching tool, a credibility resource restore all seems a little bit worrisome, i think, for this community as well and especially would've been hearing because they want to kind ability. they want someone to be held accountable. and you can understand that, children are dead. and it doesn't seem like there's going to be really any criminal liability. but what could come from something like this? >> well i think and as they hear you speak, i hear all the discussions about this topic. i think one of the things that is bothersome to me is that it's really taking away from the main discussion that has to be taking place. and that's about who's responsible for this and how do we not make it happen again? but this has to be spoken about in the context of what we have heard and learned thus far. it is an incredible tool and we will be --

trying to learn one of the things i think was discussed was the eighth our elections amid shootings and how to respond. i think have to be very clear. there is a very big difference between attending an eight-hour lesson, whether it's in the classroom or whether it's in the field and going through the motions. is a valuable? absolutely. but in my opinion, there is nothing that can fully prepare somebody from going to this. and i think that we are seeing is people make mistakes. and things that are going to be critical here in the look back in my opinion is the communication, the chain of command, the different agencies that responded and how was in a timely way, how were decisions made and how were decisions made to either go forward or to pull back? >> okay, so all of that in mind. does the gun issue need to be addressed in your mind as a former police commissioner,

addressing the fact that an 18-year-old was able to obtain an ar? that assault rifle always seem to be a part of the calculus situations like this. >> i cannot wrap my head around the fact that an individual of that age, that has shown warning signs, frankly, of whether it's statements actions and everyone seems to know that there were problems. that an individual like that can walk in and purchase a gun that's capable of killing people is beyond comprehensive to me. we have to do more. we have to do better. there are many -- >> thank you so much, appreciate. go ahead, commissioner. >> i think we've spoken about some of the issues, whether it's background checks, waiting periods, sharing of information between mental illness and

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i'll keep going as long as control is able to hear him. we are having some audio issues, mike. so forgive me if you answer this question but i think one of the issues here is that they had the firearms in place, they had 19 individuals, 19 police officers here at that failed to act. you can identify the gun, right, with your technology. however, what about the fact that he still was able to get the school and then went? how does that help? >> but our intel is always a help in any situation. as a former navy s.e.a.l. doing combat overseas, that our intel always helped. and a first responder needs to know the shooter looks like, whatever weapon they had, where they're located. so they keep decrease of spawns time and get to the threatening it inside. we're still waiting for the facts to come out in the investigation unfold of what exactly happened and said that elementary school. and hindsight is always 2020. >> all right, michael i have,

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