tv Jose Diaz- Balart Reports MSNBC May 30, 2022 7:00am-8:00am PDT
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good morning and happy memorial day. i'm chris jansen. it is 10:00 a.m. on the east coast, 7:00 a.m. on the west. in just a moment president biden will talk about his trip to uvalde, texas, saying it makes no sense to be able to purchase a weapon that can fire 300 rounds of ammunition. >> they spent three hours and 45 minutes, and some came two hours early. the pain is palpable. >> right now a partisan group of senators is finding out if any compromise might be possible. what will republicans support? we'll dig into those negotiations which are ongoing.
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first in uvalde, families of loved ones that killed 19 children and two teachers are mourning in that community. an investigation into what exactly went wrong. why didn't officers get into that school and confront the gunman much faster? here's how a texas lawmaker described his conversation with one little girl's father. the. >> reporter: their little girl had been shot in the back with one bullet through the kidney area. she likely bled out, according to the first responder. who is to know what would have happened to that little girl had officers showed up timely, had they gone in timely? >> we have comprehensive coverage for you this morning. nbc's morgan chesky is live in uvalde. howard litman, former attorney under president clinton, and
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cedric alexander is part of the national organization black law enforcement. he is now an msnbc law enforcement analyst. morgan, funerals start for the victims of this shooting soon. what else can you tell us from there on the ground? >> chris, a tough morning here in uvalde. tomorrow will mark one week since this horrific tragedy took place, the deadliest school shooting in state history, and i do believe you have a community that is dealing with two simultaneous challenges. on one hand you have 21 crosses behind me in front of robb elementary, marking this growing memorial here, those funerals set to start in the coming days, and then you also have the questions that remain in this ongoing investigation into what happened and when inside robb elementary. we heard from dps on friday. they put out that timeline. 12:03, at least 19 officers inside.
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12:05, tactical border officers involved, but it wasn't until 12:30 that they actually went in. we need some clarity, but in the meantime, we have lawmakers, chris, who are calling on the fbi to take a look of their own, because there are people here in uvalde, chris, that tell me with the dps story changing last week, at this point there is a lot of uncertainty of what they can believe and what they can't believe actually took place here, and that's unfortunate, and it only puts closure that much farther away for this tight-knit community. we do know, chris, that according to dps, it was the incident commander on the scene, the police district force of only about half a dozen officers who made the initial call to transition from an active shooter situation to a barricaded suspect situation, and that is what allowed that
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45-minute-time window to take place before border tactical agents moved in. he has been identified as pete arredondo. he is a uvalde native. he was appointed to that position in 2020, and just a week ago he was elected to the uvalde city council where he is expected to be sworn in tomorrow. we have not heard from mr. arredondo, despite repeated requests to have him share any thoughts regarding this ongoing situation. but i think the big takeaway here, chris, for as much as we've heard about this so far, there is still so much to learn. chris? >> yeah, there definitely is, although we didn't, and thank you for that, morgan. new details came out over the weekend about the details and the timeline of this tragic shooting, so let's just review all of that, because according to the texas department of public safety, it was at 11:28 a.m. that the suspect crashed a truck after shooting his grandmother. so he gets out of the truck, and he opens fire across the street
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toward a nearby funeral home. then 11:30, the first 911 call comes in. 11:31, the gunman enters the grounds of robb elementary and starts firing outside the school. it was two minutes later that he entered the school unobstructed into a door that had been propped open. he began shooting inside. police originally said, of course, and this is part of the distrust, that an armed resource officer engaged with the gunman, now they say he was not confronted by anyone before heading in. by 11:35, uvalde pd enters the school and two officers are grazed by bullets. 12:03, that's nearly half an hour after police arrived, as many as 19 officers are in the hallway. 911 calls are coming in from inside a classroom under fire. in the heat of these moments, the school district chief of police assesses incorrectly that children are no longer at risk
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despite those 911 calls asking the police for help, saying children are still alive inside. and while this video only shows a portion of what happened, we can see here frightened parents begging officers outside the school to go in, pleading with them, go in and save these children. at 12:15, border patrol tactical units arrive on the scene and are told by local police to wait to go after the gunman. that's according to federal law enforcement officials. it was not until 12:50, that is, one hour and 17 minutes after the gunman entered the school that law enforcement breaches the classroom, using keys from the janitor and fatally shoots the gunman. let's go back to our panel. julia, let me start with questions about the justice department. they will have to review this response to the shooting, uvalde mayor, all the folks there want answers. tell us when this has happened before.
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what does the process look like, and how often stb likely to take. >> the timeline can be over law enforcement on the ground, as you skbrus of the at first local law enforcement said they were waiting for more tactical gear backup, that they were waiting for the feds. now the feds, we hear, was actually told to wait outside. that's the tack cal thing. it's a critical incident revuchl, and they were actually asked by do so with local policing matters unless there is a sooifld.
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because of the way policing is set up in this country, we have a decentralized system when so much is left to locals, the justice department can maybe they recall. that they made the call that for some reason children's lives weren't still at risk when they were getting these 911 calls. that has led to an outrage and now the mayor is asking people to get involved, and they will be reviewing this, chris. >> there's no doubt that when we heard details and the police were in the howl way. you know. doj better than most. talk about where.
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-- all of this is about to unfold. >> it's a debacle that leaves questions in its wake. it's important to understand, though, that this is a program the mayor has asked for and it's a whole different thing from when the department is coming in to do a criminal investigation. if evidence of a crime comes up, fine, they will refer it, but that would basically mean an integrity to civil rights. it's during the clinton era program, actually, to be cooperative and forward facing. try to analyze what went on, work with local law enforcement, give best practices and maybe grants. they'll do what a lot of law enforcement do. they'll sift through talking to everybody, skning out, buft and gives recommendations for what went wrong, and from here there was plenty. i think from the start it was
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switched to aly. here's -- i understand you want to do a most thorough investigation you can do, but what we don't want, harry, is say, oh, the gunman was con confronted by a school safety officer when that absolutely did not happen. is there such a thing as putting a priority on it? can we get it done as thoroughly as possible but as quickly as possible? >> 100%. i look for this to happen within a couple months and there will be the preponderance of the evidence lies here. they know the country is waiting for this report, the community of uvalde is waiting for this
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report and they will act with this patch. >> nbc reported just yesterday that we learned that the very person who said, wait, don't go in, had just had, a few months ago, the kind of training you hope every officer has or who any time. what are smrcht. >> he said he could been getting it. we have known since post-column -- post-columbine, when you
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have an active shooter, when officers show up, you immediately engage to move towards that threat. there is some question here as to if and when that happened. initially, if you recall, chris, when the first press conference done by dps vpt, there was information given that later turned oufrlt. it's being questioned across the country as to what occurred. one of the most important thinlz r things twice in this country, and what i indicated a few days ago is you're going to have an outside, integrate irnld.
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you can take this information from the beginning, because whatever notes or information you sfrooef other agents, you'll still need to make sure it's thorough and timely, and they have to keep people informed as to where they are in this investigation, because in the end, credibility is what's being questioned here. because we all will conclude, including the state police, will conclude that there was serious ear ror in terms of $19 appearances said that anything
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we do going forward is hugely important because we really need to know what happened, why it happened the way it did, and particularly here, chris, they had just received recent training. now, we can accept the fact that training oftentimes can be very different from a real situation, but something here never changes. the one thing that never changed since columbine, when you get to that scene you, by yourself, are with other officers and immediately you begin to engage that gunfire. you look for that gunfire. so that attention can be focused towards you. it was able to fight and tail it will. >> harry, i think the police response is the obvious place to look, right? we already think it we know.
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>>. >> harry, how do we prevent this in the future? >> you said it, chris. he bought not only two ar-15 rifles but 700 rounds of ammunition. why is that possible in this country? those questions have to go to congress and other entities. the doj is charged here about basically what went wrong and how to prevent this in the future. amy ainsley, cedric, harry litman, thank you very much. protesters are working on gun reform. does it have a chance? one said he is hopeful. that's next. chance? one said he is hopeful
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he is co-chair of the committee. we're glad to have you with us. >> thank you, chris, for having me. >> you said in a statement after the shooting we need to start treating gun violence as the deadly public health crisis that it is. what does that look like to you? and maybe more to the point, how do you make it happen? >> thanks for the question and thanks for having me on about this, chris. i got elected to congress in 2012, and the first thing they do is they send you to orientation. it was in december of 2012, i was sitting in orientation next to a red-haired fellow elected person of congress, and she and
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i were going through orientation. all of a sudden her phone went off and she took a call. ly i looked at her and the blood drained from her face, and she turned off her phone and she stood up and she had to excuse herself. it was elizabeth este, and she represented newtown, connecticut. she had been elected to do so. she just found out that 20 toddlers got mowed down in sandy hook, and, you know, i'm a gun owner myself, chris. i have a recommending ton 700. it's aiflt the the. mike tompl p -- this was
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almost ten years ago now, and in that ten years we're looking at 1,000 more school shootings. unbelievable. people say congress isn't acting. congress is acting, it's the democrats who are acting. the republicans are blocking the way every single time. i want to tell you, most nra members that i know, they're okay with the kind of commonsense, mild, really, gun safety legislation that we've done. we've enacted over 12 gun safety bills in the house since democrats have been in charge of the house, and they've stalled in the senate. and it's not the average gun owner. i think the plurality of nra numbers are fine if it's senseless, mild, commonsense legislation such as expanded
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background checks, p people who shouldn't have guns get ahold of them. i mentioned sandy hook because it was chris murphy who represented that area before elizabeth esty, and it's entirely appropriate he take the lead in the senate, and we're hearing encouraging things from. >> we need a change from all the previous times. i went to newtown, i watched the outpouring, i saw the polls that showed as they do now. as you mentioned, not only the overwhelming number of americans but the overwhelming r mpl do
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make your voice heard. >> congressman cartwright, it's good to see you again. thank you for taking the time on this memorial day. appreciate it. and we'll head from capitol hill to the white house as president biden will soon make his way to arlington national cemetary this memorial day. ahead, how he's planning to honor the lives and legacies of fallen service members. you're watching msnbc. members you're watching msnbc. new investors can open an account and get $101 to split across the top five stocks in the s&p 500®. you can also unlock short videos, step-by-step guides, and other easy-to-use tools designed for people just getting started. plus, investment professionals are on standby 24/7 if you ever have a question. it's investing 101, reimagined. does daily stress leave you feeling out of sync? new dove men stress-relief body wash... with a plant-based adaptogen, helps alleviate stress on skin. so you can get back in sync.
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♪ president biden today will continue the solemn tradition of commanders in chief traveling to arlington national cemetary for veterans day. first, though, the first family attended mass this morning in wilmington, delaware. today is also the 7th anniversary of bo biden's death. the president and first lady joining americans all over the country honoring men and women who have died serving their country, including the return of the memorial day parade in washington after a two-year absence due to the pandemic. joining me now, josh letterman. what can you tell me about the president's plans today? >> memorial day is a solemn day for president biden, not only as commander in chief, but also as a father. you mentioned bo biden from the
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great state of delaware. they started their day today in delaware at the brandywine church to lay a wreath for bo biden before eventually dying of brain cancer. they will be holding a memorial lunch but then they will also be at arlington national cemetary where president biden will be giving memorial day remarks, and then we expect president biden and the first lady to also participate in a tree-planneding ceremony in honor of those lost. while president biden will be
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talking about service members, he also draws a connection between parents who have lost children like he has and the deep grief to what that entails, to what we've seen in texas, in buffalo, in other places where americans are losing their children. president biden trying to draw a real connection in terms of that universal grief. he was asked just this morning as he was returning to the white house about those efforts on. he wanted to give it some to him. the president is still looking to see what he can do on gun control. chris? zempz. 40,000 people headed out of town. told as many of them head back home, expect delays. are we seeing any cancellations
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this morning? it doesn't look very busy behind you yet. >> hey there, chris, unfortunately we see the number of flight cancellations tick up. that's still a slight improvement compared to earlier this memorial day weekend had to comply, of course, with those staffing short arjds. lily a future employees if you're talking about sa. take a look at that one you're paying at, and the 25% increase and those just coming into the airport is someone to take note of. this demand for travel despite
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the number of coronavirus cases is up n. nmt. united states is recording more than 100,000 infections a day, at least five times higher than this point last year as it con fronts the most trance miss i believe versions of the virus yet. joining me now, dr. peter hotez, co-director of the infectious unit at texas infectious disease hospital. the stats are also right that a lot more people are more infatuated this year than last year. give us some direction on that. >> there are good news and bad news. the bad news is we're talking about 100,000 more cases a day, but that factor is added to
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about four or five. since many are not being reported, it's probably 10 or 20 times more cases. hospitalizations are going up by about 25% over the last two weeks. so this is still a very serious epidemic going on, and even though many people are vaccinated, they are still undervaccinated. so 30 million people, about 30% of the population, has gotten their booster. if you've only gotten two immunizations, even though technically that's called full immunization, it's not. it's causing a lot of breakthrough cases and breakthrough you emergency visits and hospitalizations. not many people are getting their boosters and far less are getting their second boosters. they're eligible for it because they're over the age of 50.
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we're not getting that message out that this is still a very serious epidemic in the united states. >> what about ifly. the recovery period is five days isolation and then five days out wearing a mask. if you feel fine and you test negative, is it okay to go out and be with people? is that five days/five days a critical rule no matter what? >> there is still also ten days. some people will just stay in for ten days and then go out. if you go out after five days and wear a mask for five days and they're not testing, it is likely that you're not going to be she hadding a lot of tirs. but even if you test on the amgen test, you could still be
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spreading the virus. now individuals are getting paxlovid as well, and we're starting to see rebound with that as well. it's still a complicated situation. the bottom line is do that full isolation period and don't chance it and infect others. >> give us a reality check for those going on later today, whether it's a picnic in the park outdoors or whether they're going to be doing something else. what is your advice to people who are going to be in crowds over the next 24 hours or so? >> the risk situation is this. we have a screaming level of transmission now in many parts of the country. it's starting to level off in the northeast, but so many people are getting infected right now. you don't have to do that. so the key is to avoid big indoor gatherings, because so few people are wearing masks these days, so big indoor gatherings are the biggest red flag. if you can be outdoors, try to do it in a low-density area if
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you can. if you do that, you should be safe, but what i'm starting to see now are significant large events where many people are indoors without masks and you can be practically guaranteed you'll be exposed to the virus and a high likelihood you'll get breakthrough infection even if you're vaccinated unless you're boosted, or in some cases, twice boosted. >> a word to the wise from dr. hotez. always good to see you. thank you for that sage advice. appreciate it. still to come, where we stand on day 96 on the war in ukraine as trupgs better trupgsr miss allen over there isn't checking les . you're watching msnbc. msnbc. on her green investments with merrill. a-plus. still got it. (whistle blows) your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company.
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happening in eastern ukraine. russians are trying to squeeze ukrainians out to take control. that didn't stop volodymyr zelenskyy from visiting the front lines on sunday. he visited the town of kyiv, which has endured hundreds of attacks. molly, a lot of folks' attention has been diverted to the tragedy in texas. tell us where we are right now with this tragedy on the ground. >> reporter: this war is still grinding up and heating on in donbas. you mentioned the two big headlines focusing in the donbas. there is basically a pocket where most of the fighting is concentrated. if you look at a map, it's basically a horseshoe-like kind of shape. the last ukranian stronghold is still under military control.
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the governor said this morning that the military still controls that area. there are still civilians inside, but russian forces have now entered the out skirts of that city. is surrounded by russian forces. since russian forces haven't been able to storm in and take that city, it's going to be a heavy combat to take that city. they will incrementally work their way toward donetsk and take that pocket. one thing to keep in mind, there are still civilians inside. the last evacuation combo was kind of going out. another thing that happened was president biden visiting kharkiv. they pushed russian forces largely out.
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right now we're seeing new urgency to find solutions in response to hotter risk shooting in uvalde, texas, but of course this nation remains completely undivided on answers, and not a action on gun control, republicans are doing the opposite. begging the question, are we heading further toward an america where in one set of states, nearly everybody can get a gun, and another, where it's a whole lot harder. i want to bring in larry sabato, director for the center of politics at the university of virginia. larry, look, a couple of things experience shows us about mass shootings. number one, gun sales rise afterwards, because a lot of gun owners respond to fears their rights will be taken away. but secondly, those rights aren't taken away. certainly not at the federal level. if federal reform fails again, are we heading further toward two americas, with these patchwork laws, depending on where you live?
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>> the short answer is, yes. we've been drifting apart for some time, and i think the supreme court's likely abortion decision and now these terrible mass shootings, which are perhaps leading blue states towards more gun control and red states will probably do nothing. and actually, prior experience would suggest that some of them will actually reduce what few controls they have on guns. so yes, we're headed for two americans. hey, we see it every presidential election night, right? certain states always turn blue, certain states always turn red. the truth is, you and i could call 40 of the 50 states tonight, without even knowing who the candidates are, for 2024. >> true that. but, every once in a while, a state surprises you, right? let's look at florida. because after the shooting at marjory stoneman douglas, we saw a republican governor sign into law a bill that included provisions to ban give up sales
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to those younger than 21, imposed a waiting period on some of those gun purchases and creating a red flag law which is something they're talking about nationally. despite pressure from the nra, they got this done. so is it impossible to think that this could be a template for texas or in congress, where they're looking for compromise right now? >> i think some hope, not great hope, but some hope can be held out for congress, for texas, i'll be shocked. the situation in texas is that you have essentially three parties. a small democratic party, a hard-right republican party, and an extreme republican party. those are the three players in texas. and when you combine the two parts of the republican party, it generally goes in the nra's direction. >> let's talk about what you just said, which is that we could probably call 40 states right now. some people might argue, you could call more than that. but in those other states, let's say there's seven to ten states
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that truly are open to republican, democrat, we're not sure. that's enough to swing control of senate, which is where so much of these discussions have centered. you've been around a long time. you've watched this a long time. are these places, where this could make a difference, what we've seen in the past, is that if you have a shooting, mass shooting, lots of people talk, but there's nothing that happens to the members of congress who don't vote for reform. well, that is -- it's certainly possible. i'm not going to rule out anything for november, in may or june. but the truth is that it would be extraordinary if something major actually happened. and in the individual states, we have to remember, most of the states are controlled by one party. 23 of the states have a governor
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in both houses of the legislature controlled by republicans. there are 14 states with the governor in both houses of the legislature controlled by democrats. in those states, one party can determine what happens. but the electorate comes into play in november, and they're responding to all kinds of issues. on the one hand, democrats will have this gun control issue, they'll probably have the abortion issue. but republicans are going to have inflation and biden's low ratings and some other things that i'm sure they would be anxious for me to mention, but i won't. >> larry sabato, it's always good to see you. thank you so much for coming on on this holiday. and we do have a quick programming note before we go. a new nbc news documentary, "battlefield space," is giving viewers an inside look into space force. that's the newest branch of the military. nbc's tom costello goes behind the scenes, where space force flies hundreds of u.s. military satellites, now threatened by hostile and armed russian and chinese spacecraft.
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take a look. >> reporter: russia, china, and europe all have their own gps satellite networks, but most of the world, including ukraine and the global economy, depend on the u.s. gps network, accurate to within a foot and a half. from suburban drivers to international shipping to farming to banking to disaster response, to those ukrainian military units. the u.s. space force is charged with protecting america's gps network. we were given rare access to the secure major lauren taylor directs the operations here. >> each satellite broadcasts multiple signals, so the civilians get their signal, the. >> taken that a-5 over there.
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>> under u.s. law, the gps system cannot be turned off to anyone. but military commanders say what's happening in orbit now is even more concerning. accusing both russia and china of putting weapons in space. >> there's truly a war-fighting domain. our adversaries are fielding specific weapons systems in the domain. so we need to view it as such. >> that's just a little bit preview. "battlefield: space is available on demand now here on peacock. be sure to check it out. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for chris jansing reports. i'll be back later this afternoon at noon and 1:00. garrett haake picks up live coverage from uvalde, texas, next
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