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before moving in on the shooter. this despite records showing that the local police chief completed active shooter training in december that calls on police to do the exact opposite. meanwhile, president biden fresh from his visit to uvalde has promised action on gun reform. the question this morning, will congress follow through. and will this latest tragedy actually move republicans >> the president in the last hour seems to think so. >> i haven't spoken to them, i think they'll have to take a hard look. >> plus, more heartbreaking stories are emerging from the violence, including one from a teacher, who told her students to hit the floor, just seconds before bullets ripped through her classroom windows. >> i just kept hearing, boom, boom, boom. it kept going off, it felt like an eternity. and i just remember praying,

please, god, please, god, keep us safe. >> and nbc's ken brock is here with me. nbc's julia ainsley will be here in a moment. sam, you've been here the last couple of days. there's a lot of grief in this community. it's not going anywhere. talk to me a little bit about what you've been seeing. >> days, weeks, months, year. you look at the folks from newtown. they're doing better a decade removed. but as you drive down main street here and pass the city hall, there's a memorial across the street. there's american flags everywhere. there are pictures of students, graduating seniors, staked into the ground. you know, scholastic achievements and wanting to honor them, and right across the street from that is a plaza with a fountain and a memorial of 21 people who have been killed, 19 students who will not only not make it to high school, they won't make it to middle school, because they died between the

ages of 8 and 10. there's a lot of anger on multiple fronts, the police response is at the forefront of that. they cannot comprehend at this point how you can have 19 law enforcement officers inside of a hallway at 12:03 and 47 minutes later, it's federal agents who are overriding the guidance that they were provided to break in and to kill the gunmen. they can't still fathom that. and also, the guns, the fact that it is so accessible, not necessarily, obviously, this is texas. people are armed, but why does an 18-year-old need to access an ar-15-type assault rifle. every time you talk to local politicians, and i know you've spoken to the area congressman here, you can't seem to get any sort of articulate answer that addresses the basic question. they want that to change. they want to at least have accountability to understand where their politicians are coming from. >> we'll talk about that much more later in the show. it is interesting, the signs of sort of normalcy, folks can notice, they're removing the barricades around here and the idea that this will be normal anytime soon is sort of

farfetched. talk to me about the president's visit yesterday. he was right here yesterday. how significant was that for the people here? >> it was significant that he spent hours with the families, hugs, we saw him wiping away tears. it seems like there's an expectation here that he can do, president biden, more than he's actually capable of doing legislatively. part of that is, is he out there right now. we're talking about this a second ago, campaigning for reform when it comes to our gun laws. but again, congress has to go along with that. the families are wanting some sort of guarantee or at least an effort to change the status quo. take a listen to one family that i interviewed. this is a grandmother -- grandfather, excuse me, and the aunt of a 10-year-old girl who died here last tuesday. take a listen. >> i hear him say, we are one nation under god. and really, we ain't no more. >> we're under guns. >> he has power to change it.

and he can't do it. he can. and it needs to change. >> there's been a lot of conversation, of course, about the assault weapons ban that was in place for a decade between the mid-90s and mid-2000s. not a lot of conversation about this legislation that shields gun manufacturers from legal liability for the safety of their weapons. can you imagine a world, a universe in which that legislation was no longer in place, and perhaps what the ramifications would be for accountability, for politicians try to resist access to weapons where you can fire off dozens upon dozens of bullets in a matter of seconds. also perhaps part of national narrative again. >> there's opinion efforts to chip away at the state level. sam brock, thank you for your reporting here in uvalde. i want to bring in chief bess now. let's talk about this forthcoming doj probe here. can you give us any sense of just how significant it is that the feds are going to be jumping into the mix here on the

investigative side? >> yes, well, it's incredibly important that they come in. the trust in the community has been broken. there'll need to be an active and thorough investigation that's timely, that's effective, that provides information to the community and answers to the questions that they have and quite frankly, with the level of misinformation that's come out, it's going to be hard for people to trust anything, except an independent investigation into what's occurred here. it's so tragic. as a mother and a grandmother, i grieve for every family tlp. it's so tragic. >> the local police officers are under a lot of scrutiny. but they're part of this community, too. they live here. we don't know all their names, but i guarantee the people on this block know names of most of the officers who were in that build yesterday, or earlier in the week. how do you balance that

accountability with the fact that they're part of this community, too. they're still going to have to protect this community going forward, when all the rest of us are gone. >> yeah, well, we definitely have some challenges on that. they're going to have to answer some questions and do some soul searching and self-reflection. obviously, we don't have every specific detail. but the fact of the matter is that, you know, law enforcement has to go in. this is -- we've had over 200 mass shootings, over 25 school shootings this year alone. how many have we had since columbine? so we know what we're supposed to do. we know we need to go in. and the fact that didn't happen, you know, there's going to be some questions that need to be answered about that. and they're going to have to reconcile with themselves, you know, their own actions. >> i want to bring in julia ainsley now, to talk a little bit more about this investigation. she covers the doj for us. julia, this is not a criminal

investigation. explain a little bit about what this investigation will be, what it will look like? >> that's right. i mean, we should set our expectations for what this will be and what it won't be, garrett. we know that this will not likely end in a criminal referral, unless they can find an explicit neglect of civil rights or some kind of egregious error that is criminal in nature. most likely, it will end in a report, a review of best practices that were not followed, changes that should be made to make sure something like this doesn't happen again, and to try to answer some of these questions that we have, explicitly why federal law enforcement were told to wait outside, what the chain of command should have looked like then. whether or not this school resource officer should have been at the scene, whether or not the incident commander made the right call in deciding to keep people in the hallway, even when they were getting 911 calls. or those 911 calls being communicated to this team. it seems, of course, that he did not make the right call, and they've even admitted that. but now we hope to get a fuller picture of what exactly happened here and how it could be avoided

in the future. i think one way we'll see this report used, at least by people on the hill, could be, is there enough that people can do to really train school officers or police to respond to mass shootings, when you're going up against the level of ammunition that an 18-year-old is now able to get? that's a key question i think people will be looking for in this report. can you ever really count on local police enough to respond to the level of violence that we're seeing now, garrett. >> you lead me right to the next question. the chief of the uvalde police -- the school district police here had completed active shooter training back in september. is this a training problem? can you train your way out of this issue, or is it much more than that? >> i think that's the question. what did that training look like, and were they -- was there a reason why this incident commander decided that this was really more of a barricade situation, rather than an active shooter situation.

it seems maybe they had been trained differently on those two pieces. so is there a way that the training could have changed? you always want to think, was this person in any federal law enforcement response acting according to their training? it's really mind boggling and really just heartbreaking, frankly, to think about the fact that this training had just been given. so that stands to reason, is there a way to train people adequately for these situations when it comes down to the reality on the ground, will they act and the way that they should? and is there enough training to even really prepare them when they're looking at someone, carrying this amount of ammunition. >> chief bess, this sobering reality here is that we are far more likely to have another mass shooting in this country before that doj report is finished. what lessons can and should local police departments take away from what we saw here last week? what are they already leaker from what they witnessed here? >> well, a couple of things i want to follow up with the training aspect.

there should be more training, intensified training, and refresher training for everyone that are responding to these types of incidents, when they do occur. and beyond that, it's really a failure of, you know, the political leadership. it takes courage to lead in the right way. and to make sure that we have the laws and rules in effect and the protocols, so that we don't have an 18-year-old, you know, able to purchase an assault rifle. i'm a u.s. army veteran, i was a soldier myself. and while i recognize the military has specific stringent rules in place, your 18-year-old neighbor does not. and i think there needs to be the leadership, the political leadership needs to look at the policy around that so that we don't have to respond to as many of these school shootings. >> we're going to have much more on the policy part of this ahead. julia ainsley, and former chief carmen bess, thank you both. and ahead, we'll head to

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increasing mental health resources. joining me is madeleine dean. i know this is an issue you work on quite a bit. and in addition to the proposals i just discussed, you're also pushing for a bill that would raise the age in which someone could buy an assault-style weapon from 18 to 21. my questions for you are, how do you get your colleagues onboard with a move like that, and doesn't some of it start with just defining exactly the kinds of weapons we're talking about. >> first of all, garrett, i thank you and your colleagues for continuing to shine a bright light on the dark, darkness that is our american life. the horror and the heartbreak of uvalde, and of course, buffalo, and before that and before that and before that. but this is extraordinarily heartbreaking. 19 children, 2 of their teachers slaughtered by an 18-year-old with an assault-style weapon. you are right. i am hopeful for this legislation. in a simple way, the legislation would be to increase the age at

which a person could buy an assault-style weapon from 18 to 21. it's anthony brownsville alongside brian fitzpatrick. i think an awful lot of people just don't know that at 18, you can walk in and legally buy an assault-style weapon. even though at 18, you cannot walk in and buy a pistol. licensed firearms dealers have rules that they go by. this is a loophole that was never intented to allow an 18-year-old to buy an ar-15 and go slaughter chirp at a school. so we have to educate people that we must close this loophole. it is madness to think that we would allow this to happen. and we've now seen it happen in two weeks' time, in buffalo in a grocery store. the racist attack there that slaughtered ten and injured

others and now in uvalde. this is a simple, common sense measure. it is time to act. >> opponents of gun safety legislation often say, well, you know, bill "x" doesn't solve shooting "y." this seems like a very obvious solution to a specific problem here, both here in texas and in buffalo. congresswoman, some of your senate democratic colleagues have been saying that they do feel like maybe there's a different tone, a different feeling in washington in the wake of this particular shooting. i want to play for you some of what connecticut senator chris murphy, instrumental in these talks, said on abc yesterday about the negotiations he's leading. take a listen. >> every single time after one of these mass shootings, there's talks in washington, and they never succeed, but there are more republicans interested in talking about finding a path forward this time than i have ever seen since sandy hook. and well, in the end, i may end up being heartbroken, i am at the table in a more significant way right now with republicans and democrats than ever before.

>> so, the senator sounds optimistic there. you come from a state with a divided delegation, both in the house and the senate. it's hard for me to imagine a bill that passes the senate without your republican senator onboard with it. do you share that optimism? >> i do. we have to be hopeful in this time. and i've had the chance over the course of the last six days to speak with some of my republican colleagues in the house. and i see in them the heartbreak that we are all experiencing, as we talk about our own children and our own grandchildren and the incomprehensible nature of this attack and this slaughter. i see a change in them. i see their hearts broken, which i think will bring their minds to act. we have a chance. you know, in the house, twice now, we have passed universal background checks and closing of the so-called charleston loophole. i remember going out, arm in arm

with john lewis in 2019, so delighted that we did it, yet mindful that the senate would not act on it. this time feels different. and when john lewis, i said, what do we do if this doesn't move in the senate, he said, do not give up hope. and now we see the senate working. we need to have ten republican senators, of course, all democrats, in the senate to come to a bipartisan deal to save children's lives. this is as basic as our duty and our oath brings us to congress. we are here to protect and save lives. and if we fail, shame on us. i do feel like this is a different time, garrett. and i pray to god that it is. you know, i'm thinking of that notion, in the past, we have been so divided and defined by partisanship. may we take a different course at this fork in the road. may we defined by our love and

our appreciation of our common humanity to protect our children. >> reporter: if not now, when. congressman dean, thank you for your time today. >> thank you, garrett. >> joining us now to take a closer look a this is jeff mason. i want to play more about what president biden had to say. >> there's a realization on the part of rational republicans and i consider mcconnell as a rational republican, and i think they're realizing that we can't continue like this. you can't. >> and the president there talking about mitch mcconnell as a rational republican, we know that mcconnell has asked john cornyn to lead the negotiations on the republican side here. what's your sense of whether the two of them could put together a

coalition that could get to ten republicans that would needed to do anything in terms of changing gun laws in this country? >> well, garrett, i think the president's comments echo to some extent what the congresswoman was just saying in the previous segment. that there is some hope that this could happen. and that the political reality, as you well know, and your viewers well know, is that they need -- democrats need republicans in order to get this across the finish line. so the fact that president biden is using language somewhat optimistic -- both optimistic and also praising -- i mean, i think that's considered a complement by him of senator mcconnell, i think is meant to set a tone that would allow space to try to come up with a compromise. i'm certainly in no position to predict whether or not they will succeed, but i think the tone and the language suggests that at the highest levels of the white house, and in some levels of congress, they think it's possible. >> as a politician who's been on

all sides of senate negotiations and white house involvement in senate negotiations, this president seems to have decided the most helpful thing he could do in this case is to let these negotiations take place on their own. jeff, i want to set for you kind of the context of this debate, particularly as we're talking about specific legislation that could pass. late last week, i had a conversation with tony gonzalez, he's the republican member who represents uvalde, and i tried to ask him about this idea of raising the age to 21, to buy an assault-style weapon. why in texas it is 18. he couldn't exactly answer. here's some of our conversation. >> you can't buy a beer when you're 18 years old. why do you need to be able to buy an assault rifle? >> part of the conversation, we have to be unified. this country is not identified. >> i want to go back to my original question. why does an 18-year-old in texas need to be able to buy an assault rifle? >> the reality is this isn't a new topic. there has been a lot of legislation that's been out there. >> you haven't answered my

question, though. why does an 18-year-old need an ar-15 in the state of texas? >> so this is how the legislative process works is congress determines the laws. right now, we have a congress that won't talk to one another. there's so much rhetoric and hate. >> what do answers like that tell us about the kind of intractable nature of this problem that we have been dealing with after so many of these mass shootings. >> you're certainly right to have pushed him, garrett, and he did not answer your question. what do answers like that say? i think they say on that side of the political aisle, there's a lot of fear of countering the gun lobby. and it's that fear that president biden and democrats are saying they want to counter now with more action. again, whether or not they'll succeed, that's something we'll only see in the coming days and weeks. but the fact that there are people answering a question that's straight fard like the one you just asked is very

frustrating to gun violence activists and to democrats. >> we're going to talk a little bit more about the strength of the gun lobby in 2022 a little bit later in the broadcast. for now, jeff mason, thank you very much for coming on today. >> thank you, garrett. and still to come, new concerns about how and if children here in uvalde will be able to get proper mental health treatment after the trauma that they've just experienced. i'll speak with a former white house medical adviser who grew up just miles away from this community. you're watching msnbc live on the ground in uvalde, texas. e on the ground in uvalde, texas i love all types of dancing... salsa, and even belly dancing! i am a triathlete. i've always been into health, and wellness, and fitness... i tried everything with diet and exercise, and nothing worked. there was just kinda this stubborn area on my stomach. but coolsculpting worked for me! coolsculpting targets, freezes and eliminates treated fat for good. no needles, no incisions. discuss coolsculpting with your provider.

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week on the ground here, you have gotten to know the community and folks here. what is your sense of what they need going forward? >> i think, honestly, they need closure. they need to figure out, hopefully the department of justice investigation that was announced yesterday, hopefully that will shed some light into the timeline and what actually took place when and how. the process of everything that went, as far as officers engaging the shooter. but i think right now, they need closure and then to figure out a way to like come together. >> what do they get from the president yesterday? the president and greg abbott were here, meeting with folks. this president knows a lot about grief. and he knows a lot about losing a child. talk to me about that visit and what affect it did or didn't have on the people in this community? >> it was just about a day ago, he came right here and just right behind you, there was probably about 200 local residents here and, you know, why they were grateful to see him, they also was saying, listen, mr. biden, we need help. we want help.

the governor abbott was also here and he faced boos from a lot of those residents. so that just kind of speaks to some of the hostility that's going on with the residents as they try to search for answers, you know, from this shooting that's tore through the heart of this community. >> we've gotten to the point where visits aren't enough. shaq brewster, you and i spent a good chunk of the weekend in houston for this nra convention. i don't know if you're having the same experience i am, but it's incredibly jarring to go back and forth from that scene to this. talk to me about your experience at the convention, what stood out to you there about the totally different conversation that is being had there about guns than the one that's being had here? >> yeah, garrett, and perhaps jarring because it was not only the attendees at the nra convention, but you had folks outside. and the two sides somewhat yelling at each other. and a lot of anger and a lot of passion, as they were reflecting on the impact of what was happening here. one thing that did stick out

with me, there was overlapping, what you were hearing. i spoke to an attendee who was in tears thinking about what happened here in this community, who said that she could imagine what it would be like if this were her child, her grandchildren. you also had attendees and protesters saying that they want something to be done. of course, there are big differences in what they want to be done. and that's another point that you hear, garrett, is that there was a deep pessimism on both sides. attendes who said this was about mental health and school safety, and protesters who said, this is about an assault weapons ban or this is about universal background checks. there's a deep pessimism that anything will happen among political leaders, both in texas and in washington and it's that pessimism that is somewhat disappointing, because when you come back to a town like this, you see the crosses behind me and the pain behind me. there's a lot of pessimism that it will not happen to another community, and that it will be us in another town dealing with another heartbreak and another

tragedy, garrett. >> yeah, i would say, i would go beyond pessimism. it was almost fatalism that we would be having this conversation again in the future, so low are the expectations that congress can figure out what that something is they want to do. shaq brewster here in uvalde, shaq, thank you for your reporting. i want to bring in now dr. kavita patel, a former white house obama policy director and also just like me grew up in texas. you're from san antonio, about 80 miles from uvalde. you wrote that you have a friend's daughter that just graduated from robb elementary. so i don't want have to tell you, obviously, this is a small town. there is one pediatrician. that doctor spoke to nbc news about what it was like to treat the wounded. half of the people that he treated were kids, regular patients already. and the stories that they had from that day, i want to read you some of this. the doctor wrote, quote, it was a complete madhouse, what you see in disaster movies. doctors and nurses in every single room. people running around like maniacs, kids in the hallway,

bleeding and screaming, surgeons working on kids. doc, as we learn more about this timeline, talk to me about the importance of that emergency response, both having quick access to high-quality trauma care, and somebody who knows how to treat a child with a wound like a gunshot. >> yeah, garrett, there's no question that there were many kind of efforts to get children that needed that acute level of trauma care to san antonio, where you know that they have a level trauma center that can handle pediatric adult trums. there simple was, as dr. guerrero put it in his commentary that you were citing, he was basically saying, we were waiting for patients that never came. and on top of that, i want to remind people, uvalde memorial hospital, where patients were first brought, that is a critical access hospital. it's not huge. garrett, this is not a place that is used to this level of trauma, much less to your point pediatric trauma, much less the mental health needs immediately of the families that are waiting, the actual front line workers themselves, i think,

it's no question, i've been on trauma services. i decided not to be a trauma surgeon, because when you see the level of devastation to a body, small or large, that never leaves your brain. and so these are people who have seen it before, but never thought they would wake up that day and that this is what they would be seeing. and those images, garrett, those aren't just among doctors, nurses, front life staff, that's everybody. because those images are now obviously exposed, whether it's social media or parents recounting the story, and i think we need to remember, this is going to lead to generational trauma. we can argue about gun control, we can argue about what led to this. there is one thing i can point out. unanimously, this is going to lead to generational trauma that will not go away, because we simply don't have a system that acknowledges it. >> i think about even the law enforcement, those border patrol agents who finally got into that classroom. those men and women will never forget what they saw. the mental health component of this is so important.

texas ranks dead last when it comes to mental health access. talk to me a little bit about the challenges this community is going to face, not this week or this month, but in the years that come as people rye to grapple with their town and their community becoming a marker of this kind of violence forever. >> and garrett, you talk about where you and i grew up in texas, and i was in between san antonio and uvalde, and when i grew up and even going to medical school, garrett, i thought everywhere in the united states is what was designated as a health professional shortage area, because they are counting all the counties that i kind of grew up around and near, they are all designated health professional shortage areas, with uvalde county where you're standing right now being one of the highest areas of health professional shortages in mental, dental, and primary care. so we're talking about a place in a state that has underinvested in health care. and you add to this an entire

community, much less a country that has been traumatized over and over again, with none of those resources. so people are going to come, there's going to be prayers, you're right in front of it right now. but then, garrett, fast forward six months, those resources, where are they going to get them from? doctors and licensed behavioral social workers don't spring up from nowhere. that's the commitment i hope we can press on for policy makers to pay attention to and commit to, especially in uvalde county. >> yeah, i think about that, if you're in a red state, if you have your local politician is someone who believes these kinds of shootings are about mental health, the mental health investment on the front end, on the back end for the trauma just so critical. doctor, potentially how challenging will it be for these -- i think about these students, potentially having to come back to this school next fall, when they come back to class. talk to me about the challenges that we've seen at sandy hook, marjory stoneman douglas, all of these other schools, what are they going to have to deal with,

like do normal kid stuff, like go to fifth grade next year? >> absolutely. so i wanted to consult my colleagues who are actually doing this kind of trauma-informed care for children in all of the states that we've just talked about, connecticut, texas, colorado. and what they have all told me after sadly decades of having to do exactly what you're describing what children and families have to do, they have all said that they start with little things. they'll have to teach them that the slam of the door, it's okay that it's a triggering event, and they need to acknowledge it. they'll have to teach the parents how to look for signs, physical and behavioral signs children who are 12 years old, who wet their beds. all the things that parents never want to think about, even in the children who have survived in their family, they will expect to see that and they will work with school officials to do that. but i think so much of it, garrett, is going to be acknowledging that sometimes as parents, we don't haven't want to admit how scared we are, but by doing that in front of our children, we can at least help some of these children.

so i guess i'll just emphasize, they need the resources, but they'll also need the community to see when there's a child in trouble, because children don't raise their hands, they're scared to. and if anything, garrett, you'll see this in some of the children you've seen, they feel guilty they might not have been hurt, or they had a friend who died. there's so much survivor's guilt, they feel as young as the age of 2. so this is where i think we're going to -- i think people such as yourself, myself, coming back, when we visit, and i hopefully will spend time there when the crowd settles down, that ropefully we can be part of putting together that community-based solution. because this is not easy, and we have learned, unfortunately, it literally can take decades to overcome the grief and the trauma and it doesn't go away. >> it's really heartbreaking stuff. dr. kavita patel. thank you for your expertise on this issue. >> thank you. >> still to come, in the next hour, president biden will make his way to arlington national

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basically in a horseshoe-like pocket. it is surrounded by russian forces on three sides. and the ukrainian military says that they are still in control of the city center, still civilians there. completely cut off from services. no more planned evacuations out of that city. and according to the local governor in this particular region, they say russian forces have arrived on the outskirts of the city. they have not actually entered the city center. what they're doing is basically attacking and trying to take over strategic villages in that area to incrementally move in. now, we did just get a big operational update from the military. i'm just going through it now. basically, it says that russian military are continuing that assault on that city, and focusing on the towns that are mixed strategic rings around that area. the other thing that we are hearing today, garrett. i want to share this information. we just saw a statement from french president emmanuel macron, a french journalist has

been killed, covering the evacuation of civilians. emmanuel macron has tweeted, he said, our journalist was in ukraine, forced to flee to escape russian bombs and was fatally hit. the other thing i want to catch our audience up, the president was in kharkiv, hit really hard by russian troops. the ukrainian military has forced russian troops out of the villages surrounding kharkiv in the last several weeks. but this was a big deal for him to be out of kyiv. he thanked the troops, visited some front line proximate positions. but as america's attention has been elsewhere, president zelenskyy is really trying to keep ukraine at the top of the world's attention in visiting a city like kharkiv and getting out in front is certainly a way to do that. garrett? >> yes, it is. molly hunter, thank you for your reporting and please do stay safe. we're back with a live look at

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the murder of 26 people in a newtown, connecticut, school in 2012 horrified the nation. something had to be done about guns. >> i'm convinced cooperation and common sense will prevail. >> reporter: 94 more people have been shot and killed inside u.s. schools including uvalde, texas. mass shootings are a uniquely american phenomenon as a recent analyst published in the "new york times" shows. for gun safety advocates the reason is obvious. americans have easier access to firearms than any other developed nation and own more of them with some 390 million thought to be in circulation. attendees at the annual nra convention in houston this weekend don't see it that way. >> mental illness is how i see it. >> it didn't occur to me to make

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thank you for joining us on this memorial day holiday. i'm chris jansing. we are moments away from an annual ceremony of remembrance. president biden will lay a wreath at arlington national cemetery's tomb of the unknown soldier. after new comments this morning on the fight for gun safety legislation in washington -- >> i have not been negotiating with any of the republicans yet. i deliberately did not engage in

a debate about