♪ ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm lawrence. and all of this is our continuing live call average on this memorial day. today, at arlington national cemetery, the president of the

united states said this. >> this memorial day, we know the memory is still painful. of all the fallen who lost their lives during the last two decades in combat. each of them, leaving behind a family. could be anything. hard spoken by their actions. and lives, that will never be the same. >> the same could be said of the decades of combat that american children have faced in their classrooms, where hundreds of them have been shot and killed by mass murders. yesterday, the president and first lady brought flowers to a memorial site outside the robb elementary school in uvalde, texas. they touch the photos of the 19 dead children, and two teachers who lost their lives trying to save lives. president and the first lady attended sunday mass. as was the custom. but this time, it was in walter.

in the catholic church filled with mourners. including some of the family members of the victims. as of president was leading, someone in the crowd pleaded with him to do something. president biden responded by saying, i well. >> [noise] >> president biden's justice department has announced that they will conduct a review of law enforcements actions on the day of the mass murder. the police commander on the scene of that mass murder, peter arradondo. who delayed any attempt to stop the murder first 78 minutes, has not yet displayed the decision. three weeks ago, he was elected to a second job as a member of the evolved a council. he intended to serve as the chief of police for the vile

day school district, while serving on the city council. peter arradondo, was scheduled to be sworn in tomorrow as a member of the city council at a meeting of the city council. early today, that city council meeting scheduled for tomorrow was canceled. on friday, texas republican governor greg abbott was confronted by our first guest tonight, sexist state senator gutierrez. >> my colleagues are asking for a special session. we've called for the senate [inaudible] will. we've asked for gun control changes. and i'm missing that in the next few weeks. i don't know how to express to all the families that i've talked to, that i know you feel it to. we have to do something. all the colleagues, calling, and telling me that an 18 year

old has a gun. this is not [inaudible] . >> joining us now is texas state senator romeo gutierrez, he represents the 19th district, which includes uvalde. thank you very much for joining us in our special coverage tonight. you got no response from the governor, he heard what you said and simply said, next question. by the way, was that the longest that you have gotten to speak with the governor about this? >> yes lawrence. to be clear, he hasn't even called me once. the lieutenant governor called me and asked me what i needed for the community. that he could do within his power. he has been felt hopeful. i've had colleagues, republican colleagues in the senate call me. the governor has not contacted me. he has been here for one brief press conference. and the second one, which

seemed almost a redundancy about state house services, and other services the state offers. the county judge, and others have no further explanation about existing health services. they need to come up with a checkbook to make sure that the mental health clinic gets the funds it needs so that they can bring in their pit. eovaldi has one psychiatry is. this guy is living in some kind of alternative universe. if i'm the governor of the state of texas i am coming down here to help people, give people the things they need. and talking about policy changes that need to happen. but he's gone through several max occurs and nothing. >> do you know, the chief who was on command in the school? >> i do not know him, i have never met him. my concern about all of this, not being fair to him but being factual here. we've placed all the blame on one guy with six police

officers in his fourth. at one point does the police officer have to take control? or the state troopers, orpha sheriffs office. there was a failure at every level here. and people aren't talking about that. they want to find a scapegoat, i'm not making excuses for him, i don't know him. but everyone along the line fail these children. >> the governor said, in his last minute to uvalde. that he is livid because he was lied to, basically, about what happened in that school. would you expect the governor to demands the resignations of people who lied to him? >> not only demand those resignations, lawrence. demand accountability. on saturday, i had a long, long discussion on the way down to uvalde, ovary in uvalde. i asked for a ballistics. he said that was gonna happen. specifically i asked him, i

want to know, when dps got here. when were they situated? how many officers of the 19? when he told me it was too. i want to be able to see that. we have the technology. i've seen a very stint, recent bit of the video of several officers in the building. they didn't know i was watching, but i saw a brief portion of it. at the end of the day, shots were still being fired. i do not think that we have gotten the real answers here. and so, i've asked today, i formalized my request of our phone conversation. i formalize in an email, the specific requests. i expect to get those answers this week. and certainly, i welcome the federal investigation. >> were you able to discuss with president biden what your hopes are for the federal investigation? >> number one, i asked some three things. number one, to make sure that the federal investigation gets all the video footage from the school. because that will clear up exactly who has in wet

situation in the building. how long they were there. number two, i've asked for federal funding to try to fund a clinic here locally. that has billy behavioral health, but need some additional resources to handle all of these kids that are traumatized. and number three, they have reached out about the possibility of bringing federal funds under a grant called project serve. as he rv, which could bring about $45 million to raise to the school. of course that's a decision that the community will have at the local level. i want to be respectful of those decisions. but every parent, and little kid that i've talked to. they're just so traumatized. they don't want to go back in. we need to do a memorial for these kids. something where we can see their videos, happy smiles. so they're here for us forever. >> texas senator gutierrez, thank you very much for being responsive to us today. and helping us understand what is happening there in uvalde. we really appreciate it. >> thank you.

lawrence >> thank you. and joining our discussion now, jim kavanaugh. a former atf special agent in charge. also frank, who served as fbi director of intelligence. both our nbc analysts. frank, let me begin with you. and what is your reading of what we can expect of a federal review of what happened there? >> yeah, let's set expectations as you are doing. this is an after action critical incident review. certainly not a criminal investigation. but it will be extremely thorough, comprehensive, independent. and it's being done by the right unit. they're not coming in and assuming criminality. this is something for the best practices, and in this case. the worst practices. so that everyone can move forward and learn what to do, and what not to do. so, i'm pleased to hear this. it's much needed. i hope there is full cooperation but everyone,

including the chief of the school police department. so we can teach communities how to do this right. how to have a master key to the schools available are every shift on this police department. how to pick the best trained commander, what's the best what team is in the area. and then, even better, if the review gets to recommending grant money for the communities who don't have any of what i just said. who don't have a well equipped hostage negotiator, or need to purchase shields. and breaching tools. so that every shift has them, and patrol car. figure this out! train, that's where this review is about. >> jim kavanaugh, what are the questions that you would hope to get answered by the federal view and the other investigations? >> the main question i would have, is whether they've reached the breach point. is this information consistent we have, that the unseen commander believed that there

was no shooting inside, it's except for at the police at the door. that's the information we got. that's a critical point. because if that is true, he would've had a few minutes to set up an emergency assault. maybe with a sniper an issue that fight through the window, and an assault going through with the keys right away. it beat the killers trigger finger. but if it's not true, if the killer was inside shooting, or children were. then, you don't have time for an emergency assault. so what you have to do, then use the tools you have. like frank said, they will have breaching tools. this is endemic in american law enforcement. but they should've taken shots there. move that, lock take those hinges. do anything to get in no matter what. if shooting is going on. that's a critical question i have. was there shooting going on inside when that incident commander said no. i think he hasn't been trained in practical decision-making, or any experience with the

barricade, or situation like this. you have to train your local sergeants and lieutenants to be able to do it. like frank said, you have to have ballistic shields breaching equipments on the cards. if they're killing, find a way to port the window and shoot him. this guy was hiding in the closet. if they poured it a window, or even in the hallway, they could've been able to kill him when he came out of the closet. there's a lot of things that could've been done, we need a few more facts. it's so tragic. my heart breaks, because i feel like we're gonna have another barricaded gunman. and i want american law enforcement to now get some breaching tools, now get fire departments, and other ladders there. now get there quicker, or are gonna lose a lot more people. >> and frank, we know that this same department, the same police force, had a training for exactly this kind of event just a few weeks before this event. what we also know, is that in a live fire situation in police work, it is a first time event, usually for every single police

officer who was responding to it. certainly the case here, there wasn't a person anywhere near that building who had any experience in dealing with this. and not surprisingly, as human beings. dealing it for the first time in their lives, with their own lives at risk. they did not do a perfect job. livethis is why training becomeo incredibly important. i see the website for eovaldi pd, not the school, but the city. bragging about the swat team. of course, you know, as small towns it is patrol officers. but why weren't they in charge. where is the county sheriff swat team, if indeed the team thought that it changed to a barricade, did he take steps to call out a trained hostage negotiator? all the circles around was the right person in charge? was the equipment on scene or not? we may find out that people did have tools and shields, but he kept saying no. the federal agents that were

there, the border control folks. they were there earlier than you thought. and they certainly wear it crept. so who said no, why, and then radio communications which are so often the case in these crises, breaks down. so was the 9-1-1 call, all of the calls, being fed to the commander? or was there a breakdown. did they go radio silent. was there a different frequency? that's gonna be answered with a doj review. >> frank and jim kavanaugh, thank you both very much for joining us tonight. and coming up next! investigative reporter tim mack, who literally wrote the book on the nra will join us. we'll also be joined by a survivor of the douglass high school massacre in florida, and cofounder of march for our lives! david hogg. that's next! 's next!

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planned funeral, the national rifle association went ahead with its annual glorification of guns a few hours away in houston. while a couple of texas republicans backed out, most of the weekend, it was business as usual there. this time, protesters gathered outside of the convention. according to our next guest, many of the people holding signs and shouting chants were first timers. people who have never attended a gun violence protests before. joining our discussion now, tim mack, washington investigative correspondent for and be our. he is also the author of the book, misfire, inside the downfall of the nra. tim, what did you see in what happened this weekend at the nra convention? >> well, like you, mentioned i saw a lot of folks who were there and who have never attended a protest on the gun policy issue. it seems like almost every

other person that i spoke to there at those demonstrations were hundred to people faced off against and members in houston. almost every second person had never been to a potus on this. and, earlier, in buffalo it had really been this type of tipping point for folks. a lot of them had demonstrated that they had not been active on the issue. and this is the core of the nra power. there's a side of the argument. their sources are easily activated and mobilizes. when it comes to areas of legislative action, the question has always been can the other side of the argument mobilize in a similar way and with as much passion? >> tim, you have got an extensive reporting on the corruption of the nra investigation into misuse of the finances of the nra and using money to buy for 500

dollar suits. all these crazy spending on his part bushnell. how is that affecting this weekend? >> what's really interesting is that if you look at attendance and what happened inside the convention hall, it was really -- the nra, right now, as an organization is a shadow of its former self. it has not had a convention in three years because of the pandemic. if you look at the audience that attended when donald, trump the former president, spoke before the nra's most passing it members, a very substantial percentage of the seats in that room were empty. the excitement is out of the room when it comes to the nra as an organization. it's executives have really sacrificed a lot of its credibility in the second amendment community. >> and, this the nra, now, in

the business of simply self preservation more than the business of influence since their influence over republicans seem to have been, now, internalized by the republican party? >> that's a really good point. i think that there is a lot of effort, you, know it's really hard to say but a lot of time is spent at an area headquarters in virginia. thinking more about how do we keep our decorative simply, it's how do we fight the lawsuits, how do we fight investigation. and much less time is spent on how to present the policy issues that we want to present. and to push their second amendment agenda. >> npr's tim mak, thank you very much for joining us on the special coverage. really appreciate it. >> thanks a lot. >> and before we be joined by our next guest, i want to consider how a real democracy actually handles gun issues and changes to gun laws. consider the canadian prime

minister, justin trudeau had to say about guns in canada. listen to this. >> two years ago, our government banned 1500 models of assault style weapons, including the ruger many 14 used that polytechnique and the ar-15. we have also expanded background checks to keep firearms out of the wrong hands. we did it because it was what's responsible leadership required us to do. and now, as we see gun violence continue to rise, it is our duty to keep taking action. so, today we are moving forward. we are introducing legislation to implementing national freeze on handgun ownership. what this means is that it will no longer be possible to buy, sell, transfer or import

handguns anywhere in canada. in other words, we are capping the market. [applause] >> that was the canadian prime minister, today, yesterday, our next guest, david hogg spoke at the rally outside of the nra convention in houston. >> we now have the most pro gun violence prevention and senate, house and white house ever in american history. [applause] but that is not enough. that is not enough! we have to hold them accountable. we have to get to the filibuster. [applause] >> we need to go out there and demand that the act. i need every single person listening to me right now to show up at your senator's office over this recess every single day. show up and demand that they have a vote with background

checks and -- >> and joining us now is david hogg, cofounder of march for our lives, he is a survivor of the school massacre at the marjory school in brooklyn, florida. david, thank you very much for joining us. i wanted to juxtapose what we just heard the canadian prime minister say with what you said. because, if you were making the same kind of speech in canada, you would not have been talking about a filibuster rule. you would not be talking about a senate with two senators per state creating a fundamentally anti democratic non democratic structure in the federal government that makes it nonresponsive to democracy the way by canadian democracy based government is responsive to democracy. >> i wouldn't be. and frankly, lawrence, all i have to say is that i would not be speaking there. not just because of that but because the shooting at my high school would not have happened if i went to school in canada. >> so, as you were going to the

nra, was that by the way your first and our convention that you want to protest this weekend? >> i think so. but it definitely is not my first time in houston. you know what was remarkable about that, you know, i just heard the last guest speak. it is, a, how many new people were there. it is absolutely incredible. and, be, i believe that there are more people outside at the counter protests than there were actually inside at the nra. where, the former president was speaking. i think one of the counterprotest is bigger than the organization and has a read of almost 4000 people, they could only get a couple hundred and they have the former president, we know that things are going to change. >> david, you went to work as a high school student after your high school was attacked in so many of your friends and classmates were killed. you want to work in the florida legislature in your state where it happened. now, you are going to work

again trying to get more momentum, again. where are you going to be aiming your legislative impact for your future lobbying on this? >> yeah, well, lawrence i have a call to action for our americans that are watching this. this movement is not about being a democrat a republican. these kids who are here are not democrat to republicans. they are our future. we need to come together as a country like we did in the week in florida, with, my, do our deep republican state legislator with governor rick scott at the time. and, we are together to pass any form of legislation. because i can respect the fact that people don't agree with me. what i can't accept the is that we can do anything to stop the shootings. because the truth of the matter is, lawrence, right now the next shooter is out there plotting his attack. it's not -- we know these things are going to continue until we act. and the reality is, as well,

there was a good guy with a gun at my high school. there were over, i believe, there were over 19 guys in texas and both of them failed to do anything. they failed in that school and then they filled again in texas. how many times are we going to hear this talking point again and again? it risk the lives of our first responders, teachers and students. lawrence, if our first line of defense's first responders, first responders need to be our last resort and not our first. if our only response that this is once a shooter gets on campus, we are feeling because a student, a teacher or first responder is already going to likely die. we need to respond to these things before it happens in the first place. because we have seen the cost of what happens when we don't. the reality is, to, lawrence, these shooters wait until they are old enough to legally obtain these guns. they were 18 years old. they were 19 years old at my school. they don't have black market connections. this idea that they have deep connections to the black market is ridiculous. these kids are barely adult.

these are essentially very, very young adults who are 18 and 19 years old getting a hold of ar-15s and shooting up high schools. there is no reason they need to have access to that. and that is why i'm calling on all americans to join me on the marching with tens of thousands of others with over 300 marching's across the country. not as democrats or republicans but americans demanding that we can agree on something. marching your city. wherever you are, on june 11th with us for the start of a moment. not the end of one. but a start of one. it's going to make it safer. and if you'd like to join me, you can text march to 954, 954. once again, that's march to 954954. >> that is saturday june 11th and, david, i ask you can you join us on the last word the night before on june 10th, on friday june 10th before that march? >> we'll talk to our press team. but the other thing i'd like to say, as a less, think we are showing up at senators offices to right now. mitch mcconnell is waiting for us. he is waiting for us to move on

this. 19 kids died. and two teachers. we cannot wait for the next city hook. we are showing up. i'm going to senators office in pennsylvania tomorrow, i need educators, teachers everyone with me, gun owners, republicans everybody who agrees that we need action to show up with me in pittsburgh. and, if you want information on, that go to my twitter, i am at david hogg, 111. >> david hogg, thank you very much for joining us again tonight. really appreciated. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, there is new reporting about the white supremacist mass murderer in buffalo two weeks ago. the buffalo news reports the suspect may have told his plans to a retired federal agent, who he talked to in racist chat rooms. we will be joined by the investigative reporter who broke that story, next. broke that story, next

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new information on the white supremacist accused of murdering ten black people at a local supermarket in buffalo two weeks ago. the buffalo news is reporting that a retired federal agent may have known of the attack in advance.

the news says law enforcement officers are investigating whether a retired federal agent had 30 minutes advanced notice of a white supremacist plans to murder black people at a buffalo supermarket. to law enforcements officials told the buffalo news. the man, and believed to be from texas, was one of at least six individuals who regularly communicated with the accused gunman. an online chat room where racist hatred was discussed. officials said. this weekend, vice president kamala harris attended the final funeral for a victim of that attack in buffalo. vice president harris said this. >> what happened here in buffalo in, texas, in atlanta, in orlando. what happens at the synagogues,

and so this is a moment that requires all good people to stand up and say that we will not stand for this! enough is enough! we will come together, based on what we all know we have in common, and we will not let those people who are motivated by hate, separate us or make us feel fear. >> that was at the funeral of ruth whitfield. joining us now, is dan or back, an investigator from the buffalo news, and coauthor of american terrorist. timothy mcvay, and the oklahoma city bombing. thank you very much for joining us. what can you tell us about what you have discovered about the communications between this accused murderer and people he might have been communicating with? >> thanks lawrence. well, this retired federal agent was a part of this hate group. that this man was communicating

with. and we believed that about 30 minutes before the murders, he told the people in this hate group what's was about to happen, and the specific location where it was going to happen. now, could they have stopped it in 30 minutes if they had reached out to somebody? we will never known because they did not try to call anybody. >> do they face any criminal liability for taking no action at all? >> i don't know about taking no action at all, as far as that leading to a criminal charge, but i can guarantee you that law enforcement can be looking at every possibility of finding a way to charge people who held this guy in any way, either. through advice, encouragement, helping him to get weapons or magazines. or other things that he used for this horrible crime. well, you would think that a

retired federal agent would know exactly how to call directly to the buffalo police department or a federal authority who, with, then immediately contact them. 30 minutes is plenty of time to dispatch units to that supermarket. >> i agree with you. and, that would be assuming that the retired agent wanted to make such a call. whoever was hearing this information, the advance of this massacre did not make any attempts to reach law enforcement as far as we've been told. >> dan, what similarities have you found so far in your reporting with this case and with the thinking of timothy mcvay that you studied so closely? >> well, we interviewed timothy mcvay for more than 70 hours on death row. and like this guy, he was

totally involved with guns. he loved guns. guns were the issue why he killed 168 people in oklahoma city. mick they did have some racist opinions but he was not a white supremacist. he had many close black friends in the u.s. army. he told us he could never be a white supremacist for that reason alone because he considered these black guys his battle buddies. but they had the same mindset in terms of the fact that they were willing to kill completely innocent people to make a political point. >> dan urbank, thank you very much for your reporting, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> and coming, up the kevin mccarthy is very worried about what is going to come out when the house select committee, january six committee's hearing begins publicly. he wants to know, right now,

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house of representatives, kevin mccarthy, is refusing to comply with a subpoena from the house select committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the capitol. in an 11-page letter sent to the committee on friday, a criminal defense lawyer for kevin mccarthy said that the congressman would not testify, and presented a list of demands to the committee, that include, quote, a list of subject and topics the select committee would like to discuss with the leader. and, a copy of all documents the select committee would like to ask the leader about or otherwise discuss with the leader. joining us now is democratic representative of -- she's a member of the january

six committee, and the judiciary committee. thanks for joining us on memorial day. what was your reaction to this 11-page letter from congressman mccarthy? >> well, its first disappointment. and it's really an extraordinary circumstance when the leader of the republicans in the house of representatives really refuses to comply with a subpoena that he is obliged to comply with. and retains a criminal defense lawyer. why would he need that? and just refuses to tell the truth. we laid out in our letter to mr. mccarthy, what we wanted to talk to him about. we know he had conversations with a former president, both during the riots, before, and after. and we'd like to know about that. what is he hiding? >> will you be getting information from others who either, overheard his side of

conversations with the president, or obtained information about his phone calls and other ways? >> some of that has been public, as you know. congressman herrera butler, mentioned sometime ago in a time home mealy. the conversation that he had with mccarthy where he relayed the discussion that he had with the president. but there are other questions that we have for him. some of him and which only he can answer. so this is really not the right thing to do. he also, asserted, all kinds of ridiculous assertions about the committee itself. those who have refused to testify have gone to court, and every court that has considered it, has said that it is ridiculous. and has knocked it down. we have interviewed over 1000 people. all of us all of whom have come

in voluntarily. some by subpoena. it's a small subset of people who refused to tell the truth, and it is really regrettable that kevin mccarthy is in that smart group. >> and, you also are in a situation that no previous investigative committee has found itself. other than the ethics committee's investigating very specific relatively micro ethics violations to what you're investigating here. that is an attempt to subpoena members of the house. actual members. and that is new territory from the house. >> it is, but as some retired republican house members pointed out in the letter, the assault on the capitol, and the effort to overturn the election, was also unprecedented. we have examples of officials who were asked to come into the congress, including, for

example, 9/11. where mr. dick cheney, who came in and testified for hours. that is unprecedented. but so was the 9/11 attack. so yes, we are in territory that is not new, it's unusual. thank god. but we hope that it will never happen again. we take this very seriously. the effort to overturn the constitutional system came remarkably close. thank goodness for the very brave police officers who were assaulted and harmed, brutally beaten. they kept the mob from entering, and really, it was a close call. much closer than people realize. >> representative zoe lofton, thank you so much for joining us again. my often appreciate it. >> thank you, and thinks those who served our country in the

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to spend $2 million of taxpayer money. at donald trump's properties, creating income to donald trump during the trump presidency. this, according to records obtained by citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington. taxpayers paid for 146 visits that donald trump made to his private club in florida, for example. secret service paid more than $300,000 for security at that property. at least $350,000 at donald trump's golf properties. and at least $400,000 at trump hotels. joining us now, is president and the ex chief executive officer of crew. citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington. thank you very much for joining

us. and of course the secret service was generally at those properties to protect donald trump. and, in some instances, the trump family. since donald trump's, i believe the witches man on the world, according to his own testimony. he didn't have to charge them. he could've just giving them free rooms to stay there. >> that is absolutely right. in fact, his son, eric trump, who was one of the people running the business when donald trump was president. actually said publicly, we are not charging the secret service. only making them pay only $15, not even housekeeping expenses. noah turns out it was not true. not only where they charging the secret service, there was times where eric trump specifically requested that they'd stay at the trump hotel, and the secret service had to pay above the approved rate per night for the government. so they were charging them a lot, and they made out a lot of

money out of it. and many -- >> many of the trump properties, the secret service were actually necessary to the cash flow the properties? >> yes. it has become clear that donald trump, systematically, use the presidency to keep the money coming into his businesses. that was a steady flow of money from the secret service, from other government officials staying at those properties. not to mention, all of the people who are seeking influence with donald trump. who paraded to his properties, and dropped a lot of money there. >> this is something we have never seen before in the history of the presidency, that every single time that the president went on a trip to new jersey, or to florida. every single time he decided to do that, he was also deciding to generate income to himself. >> we have never had anything like this.

that is part of why it was so important, or would've been so important and so right, for donald trump to sell his businesses before becoming president. you get to be president, or a businessman, not both and then use the presidency to benefit your business on a daily business. >> noah, thank you for you and your crew for doing this kind of work. this is the kind of work that only crew does, and we really did need this information. thank you. >> thank you so much for having me. >> thank you. an msnbc's live coverage will continue after this break. we will be back for another hour of coverage. hour of coverage

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