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turn 11, never graduate, never get a job or have families of their own. today their loved ones aren't just burying their memories. they are burying two lost futures. their pane compounded by the still unanswered questions not just about the shooter's motive. motive hardly matters. about what those sworn to protect didn't do. why law enforcement stood and waited outside the classroom for more than an hour. why they did not protect. we have learned uvalde school's police chief was the one who made that call. investigators say it was his decision alone to hold back city, state and federal officers to wait for additional resources to take down the shooter. officials say he believed it was a barricaded suspect. nbc reached out for comment. but there has been no response and we are now alerting the special forces team acts from u.s. customs and border
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protection to defy those orders and went in. that's according to two senior federal law enforcement officials. but by that point, it had been so long, some of the families say their wounded kids bled out. leaving them forever asking the question, what if they went in sooner? was there still time? the chief was supposed to be sworn in to the city council today a. position he was just elected to hold. uvalde's mayor says he is free to assume his position on the council but that the ceremony to welcome him is postponed. joining me is nbc news koempt liz mclaughlin and nbc news' tom winters. the funerals, liz, are starting today. what do we know? >> reporter: katy, exactly one week at 11 minutes ago, police finally confronted that gunman and stopped the massacre at robb elementary. an event that will forever
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change this community. so now the focus is really on honoring and remembering those 21 lives lost. the visitation started yesterday for those two girls who mentioned funerals starting today anne marie ga garza, she got a telephone for her 10th birthday. she called police for them to come. her funeral will be across from the elementary school where the gunman fired shots before he entered the school. 11 funerals will be held, one for the teacher irma garcia, a few days after her tragic death. her husband had a heart attack a. broken heart. they leave behind four children that will have to say good-bye to both parents. the grief is deepening. many are turning to faith for comfort. i spoke with one local pastor daniel meyers how he is
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comforting this communit lets listen. >> what they're going through is a lot of grief and a lot of pane. they're parents and they're waking up every morning and thinking they're going to hear their child, mom, dad! , and it's not there no more. it won't be there no more. >> reporter: truly heart breaking. an anonymous donor donated $175,000 to cover the comforts of all of these funerals. no financial donation can make these families whole again. we'll see how this plays out over the coming weeks as this community continues to grief. lots of people from across the state and countries will support them. but the funerals for now are limited and the memorials to those who personally knew these victims. >> so many coming in to help these two small funeral homes bury the dead funeral directors,
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volunteers, facial reconstructionists. yes, it was that bad, coming in to help. again these funerals will take many weeks because there are so many of them. tom, the investigation usually is now at this point focused on the shooter. it's instead focused on law enforcement. >> right. >> what do we know about why the chief told his officers to just wait? initially we heard it was because the gunfire had stopped. when i looked at the time line, there was still gunfire at 12:36. tant the officers had been on scene for an hour. >> that is correct. that ultimately is the question. on two fronts, people trying to tons thought process according to texas public records that we have been able to access, he had a decent amount of active shooter training. now, the specific courses, we'll have to take a look at. we know that texas mandates and says in their documents, look, this is a situation where seconds matter and officers have to put their lives on the line.
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you must act. you must do everything possible to engage the shooter. that includes by the way, look, if the shooter is paying attention to you, police officer, they're not paying attention to innocent people they might be trying to kill. that remains a huge component that as a law enforcement profession so outraged at this. we know he received 32 hours of training on this subject active shooters over the last three years. as late as december 18th, he took an eight-hour course according to his professional records. he has been in law enforcement 28 years seven months. it's not that this is a foreign idea for him. if are you in charge of safety for the school district. this has to be one of the principles things you think of, why do we have so many officers in school now? a huge component is because of the shooting incidents. >> who is to stop the shooter? >> exactly right, it should stop anybody from causing harm from the outside into that school and you can deal with law
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enforcement issues, which a lot of the officers deal with. >> is it because they didn't want officers to get hurt, they had higher fire power than the officers the i'd? >> as you say, we have reached out and asked those type of questions, four responses, haven't heard anything back yet. officers have to know you will be in situation sometimes where you are going to be outgunned. so if that was the case everybody here had handguns, they didn't have assault rifles on their own, you have to come one a strategy to be able to deal with that, to say, okay, how can we get that person to engage with us? i'm not saying officers need to put themselves on a suicide mission. i'm not signing up. there is no shield. >> they sign up to protect and these are little kids. >> and that is the thing that will be looked at. we do know the justice department was asked to take a look at this and their office of community-orienting policing, which looks at the actions of
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police departments, not to the shooter, not to the motive. what did police do? >> i can understand not wanting to be on a sue sid mission. then you have to ask, if they feel they are going on a sue sid mission because this guy has a higher powered weapon period and it's scary to face that as just a regular officer, you got to wonder about the weapon that you are just handing to a violent psychopath as ted cruz called him. >> you have to talk about the weapon and the laws. we look at what has occurred and ba we know so far about the shooter. we certainly don't have all the information, all the answers at this point. there is an active investigation. but based on the preliminary information we know, unlike other shootings you and i have talked about far too often in the past. i can point to, there was a red flag law, somebody purchased the gun illegally or this should have tripped off a background check. i'm not sitting here looking at the totality of the information.
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there is nothing i see where a law current or some of the proposed legislation coming in, katy, could have stopped this, outside of if you want to tackle the gun component of this issue, will you have to look at different types of laws. >> they have that thought legally, bought legally, bought legally, bought legally. we will talk more about legislation right now. on capitol hill, liz mclaughlin, thank you very much. the house judiciary committee will hold an emergency hearing later this week to mark a series of gun prevention bills. the mass shootings in uvalde and buffalo have given new urgency to a package of bills referred to as the protecting our kids act by democrats. details of the ominous gun bills were first reported by punch bowl news, it includes raising the purchase age from 18 to 21, imposing a new federal ban on high capacity magazines,
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creating a registry for existing bump stocks and bans on new bump stocks. amending the definition of ghost guns and required background checks on all sales, increasing federal criminal penalties for gun trafficking and straw purchases. imposing stricter requirements for keeping guns at home, especially with minors present. house democratic leaders say they have the vote to pass these bills as early as next week. but the package does not currently have the 60 votes needed to then clear the senate. joining me now from capitol hill, nbc news correspondent, ali vitale, they've got these bills. they can pass them in the house. what will happen when they get to the senate? is there room for negotiation? >> this happens all the time, quite frankly. this is what we have seen time and again with the house. they have passed the sorts of bills they know they can pass, they have a bigger majority,
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razor thin, than they do in the senate. that's exactly what we expect them to do after the judiciary committee comes on thursday and marks up this package of bills the things you know go further than the senate conversation is right now. that's important. because this kind of hits a brick wall once it crosses the aisle and goes to the senate side of this. instead, what we have seen from democrats, this has frankly been true on gun violence and abortion rights is they have continued to pass what amount to effectively messaging bills, trying to show where democrats are on these issues and again trying to use them as energizing moments in the upcoming mid-term elections because the road is so short. and frankly, that's what's going to probably happen to this package of gun laws you see on your screen right now is they will likely pass the house and languish once they hit the senate. >> so, ali, when they languish at the senate, what will happen then? will you see senator chris
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murphy and dick durbin and others meet with republican senators to come up with something they can get passed? is there an alternate set of bills currently being worked on? >> reporter: yeah, that's the more likely path to this. what we've seen in the immediate after math of this shooting is people like senator chris murphy coming together with republicans, including john cornyn and others to talk about a more moderate set of pieces that could amount to a gun safety package and he outline what happened some of those things are. you can take a listen to him tell it. take a listen. >> on the table are red flag laws, changes to our background checks systems, they've started investments in mental health, investment in school security. i am willing to get uncomfortable in these conversations and support things that i may have been previously unwilling to support. as long as republicans are willing to do the same thing.
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so you know, i have, you know, my priorities for making schools safer, republicans have their priorities. i am willing to bend and compromise. >> reporter: so, look, you heard some of the things there, red flag laws, school safety, background checks. these are conversations that have been happening. i think the thing that might make this different is how moderating democrats have been in coming to the table. you heard murphy there talking about how he may be willing to support this i think so that he might not have supported in the past. these are preliminary conversations. they're happening while lawmakers are at home. the fact that they're happening and have momentum behind them, they have the blessing of people like mcconnell. there is not a huge well reserve of optimism up here either. >> thank you very much. canadian prime minister justin trudeau is introducing legislation that will freeze handgun sales in canada. it will mean no more buying, trance forgot or selling
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handguns anywhere in canada. in his address, trudeau alluded to what is happening or not happening, rather, here in the united states. >> we recognize that the vast majority of gun owners use them safely and in accordance with the law. but other than using firearms for sports shooting and hunting, there is no reason anyone in canada should use guns in their every day lives. we cannot let the guns debate become so polarized that nothing gets done. we cannot let that happen in our country. >> unlike what is happening here. still ahead as congress moves forward on gun reform, two mother who's lost their own kids to gun violence will join me. plus, russian troops are gaining ground in eastern ukraine. we are live with what the ukrainian military is doing in response. richard engel will join us. also facing sinking approval
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for imports delivered by pipeline. a french broadcaster was killed in eastern ukraine. he was hit by shrapnel covering a ukrainian evacuation operation. in mariupol, city council said 16,000 have been buried in mass graves. in the battle for the donbas is shifting in favor of russia. ukrainian officials said russian troops have taken positions throughout half of the city. it is the last major city in the luhansk region under ukrainian control. joining us is nbc news chief correspondent richard engel. so russia is making gains. richard, what have you seen? >> reporter: so, russia is using classic artillery warfare tactics, which are extremely brutal and effective because we are very close to the russian border here. russia has a tremendous amount
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of artillery and they seem to be willing to take enormous casualties. so this is now a destructive war that is going mile by mile, village by village, with russian forces bombing a location. then advancing a mile or two, if they can. moving up their artillery. then firing onto the next position and with this step-by-step approach, walking their artillery forward, they have been able to squeeze a lot of the donbas and they're moving heavily out to thecy of severeodonetsk. they've taken half of the city. it is believed about 12,000 people are still trapped in the city. so if russia is able to capture all of the city, it's yet another city under russian control that allows them to move their artillery even further to capture more towns, more cities, including the one where i am right now. for the first time in the war,
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russia seems to be winning. at least out in the east here, russia's slow, brutal, artillery and rocket assaults are clawing away land from ukraine. russian troops now threaten to encircle ukraine's eastern agricultural and coal mining heartland known as the donbas. the village of severeoskq. they have been without running power and water for weeks and half of the residents have left. the mayor does what he can to distribute food. >> reporter: they are trying to squeeze us out, but i am confident our soldiers will keep us safe, he says. twice a week there is enough fuel for people to charge phones, not that there is cell service or wifi. volunteers hand out canvass to
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cover broken windows. fresh water is in short supply. across town the village hospital is now a shelter. all 39 people living here had their homes destroyed. when i'm down here, i can't help but think, what do these people do, these are elderly people, not bothering anybody. now they're under attack and have to live like this in the darkness under the hospital. a hospital which can't provide them medical care. it only provides a little shelter. for what? for what? but help may be coming. ukrainian troops are rushing towards the veg reenforcing the entire region and more weapons supplied by the united states have already started to arrive on the lines. >> what are russia's games in the east mean for the overall course of the war? >> reporter: well, it's a
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tremendous blow to the ukrainian government. the ukrainian government is determined to stop this offensive by russia to reverse it. but it means we are now in a different phase of the conflict. the early phases, the russian troops were using very different strategies. they were trying to conduct blitzkriegs with multiple fronts and naval assaults and trying to capture the entire country very quickly. that didn't work. so now they're concentrating on this slow, grinding campaign out here in the east close to the russian border and it means for the overall war that ukraine is now, it seems to be, in a protracted conventional war that could cause a tremendous am of damage and many, cost many ukrainian and russian lives. >> richard engel, thank you very much. and coming up, what is the president's plan to bring down inflation? a senior adviser to the president jones me. plus more than 100 people are
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the shooting at robb elementary was horrific. it put the country's focus once again on guns. outside of the mass shootings that dominate news coverage are thousands of other violence that doesn't get the same coverage. insurance uvalde, 11 people have died and 67 others have been injured in shootings. that's in a week. at least eight people died and 55 others were injured over this holiday weekend. that violence touches more than half of the country. a national survey on gun safety reports that 58% of adults say they or someone they care for experienced gun violence in their lifetime and the trauma of that violence does not end when the shooting stops or when the cameras go away. if the cameras are there to gen with. the mother of 6-year-old anna grace, who was killed in the sandy hook elementary school
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shooting. she is a licensed marriage and family therapist. halls shan nay johnson, her fiancee was murdered in new york while she was two months pregnant with her now 18-year-old son. in 2010, her 17-year-old son kendrick was murdered in queens, new york, weeks before his high school graduation. she is now a volunteer with moms demand action and founder of the kendrick murrow junior foundation. laid, thank you for coming and having this incredibly tough conversation with me. i want to gen with you, the funerals for the uvalde children and the two teachers, the funerals begin today, two of them. your family and marriage counselor therapist. you must be through this before. what do these families need from us right now? >> i would think to give them space to give them space to give them time to follow their lead to not push them to make
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statements or decisions that, you know, are in perhaps other people's best interests but maybe not their own, follow their space. respect their space. follow their lead. give them time. >> you know, i really wanted to talk to you, you are an incredibly powerful speaker on school shootings, guns, healing, recovering, what families can do and how they recover. but you also agreed to do the interview i want to say shanay because a part of the reason is the violence that you have experienced doesn't get covered in the same way. you lost your fiancee and you lost your son and you told a powerful story about taking one of your other sons to the er and being asked by the doctor, because you know he got into, had an accident atika rate. the doctor asked how many kids you had? you said in that moment you struggled to answer already you had three or four kids because
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you lost one. you didn't want to say four and give their ages and didn't want to say three, then it would feel like you are erasing his memory. tell me what it is like to be the mother of somebody who died from gun violence that doesn't get this sort of attention? >> it's difficult. you know, and i worked so hard to continue to keep kendrick's life and legacy alive. you know, he was a great kid. he was murder three weeks before his high school graduation. and i decided that no one else is going to keep his memory alive, i will. >> it seams feel to you that some gun deaths in this country are quote/unquote tragic than others. if so, what do you think that says about us and how we do things here? >> well, that itself the thing. it's not -- the tragedies aren't different to the families. every day there are more than
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100-plus people murdered by gun violence. so today, there will be more families suffering and more coverage or less coverage doesn't take that pain away. it doesn't take the suffering away from the families. >> what have you done about it? what is the fix right now according to, shanay? >> that we all work together. that the issue doesn't get lost in the issues. kendrick was a real person. you know, i think i missed the politics. we forget that sometimes. but we need a team to work together and have unity in the senate and they can pass stronger gun laws. and also on the local level. if we work together, we can prevent so many tragedies from happening. >> well, want to work together. we see nothing but inaction when it comes from our law makers. they're trying right now. but there is a real partisan divide. some people out there, when you
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say contacted you, and not say to you, you need to show the autopsy pictures of your child after the shooting. i guess with the idea that if you show americans, show lawmakers just how bad it is, how horrible it is, that that will spur them to action? what do you think when you get those requests? >> it has been an incredibly difficult peek. the fever pitch cry for the focus of the children have never been this high. i need many earthquake to hold on to hope. i need america to commit to action and not demand of families who are suffering but we need to learn to be people who ask more of the powerful and less of those hurting. asking me for pictures right now is not what you need. it is a very disrespectful and damaging act. working your gifts and skill set and demand action of your
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leaders. demand action in your community. but do not ask me for those pictures. it has been an incredibly difficult week. >> are you okay? >> together with shanay and the mothers who are standing, asking for the right things. we are going to be okay for our kids and for ourselves and for our families. >> what about you, shanay? >> i wasn't okay this week. just two weeks ago, i had to visit kendrick's grave site, two weeks ago was the tragic anniversary of the death, may 15th. so between that and the daily toll of gun violence in buffalo and uvalde, i wasn't okay. i will get comfortable with saying i'm not okay all the time. you know, that i shouldn't just adjust to this. so, no, i'm not okay. am i hoping? yes, i am coping with it. >> are you hopeful? when you say you are coping, are you hopeful?
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smr i am very hope. i have been fighting for 12 years. i am very hope. i show that hope in my local community when i work with the youth in my community. because we are fighting for them, for their lives. so, yes, i am very hopeful. >> do you think something will get done in congress? will there be enough outrage? enough of a sense that this has gone too far for there to be something happening on guns? if it's just background checks? is that going to be enough to stop this sort of violence? maybe enough for some violence, but the sort of violence we see not just at these schools, but on a daily basis in this country? >> i think we need to vote them out, our leaders who are putting profit over policy, who are doing more than human beings. we should vote them out. because more and more lives are
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-- every day we are losing people out. children are dying, that's more important, your policy is more important than the lives of our young americans. >> shanay johnson, it has been a very difficult week for all of us and for you two especially. we appreciate automatic work that you are doing to try and raise people's awareness so this doesn't keep on happening. thank you very much, ladies. >> thank you. >> and we'll be right back.
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caught flat footed. quote, i've heard him say recently that he used to say about president obama tenure that everything landed on his deck but locusts. now he understands how that feels. carol, so first off, just so everyone knows, can you give me a little information on the source for this story? >> reporter: sure, these were more than two dozen people, they're current administration officials, white house officials, former officials, lawmakers, staff in congress as well as democrats outside of the white house who are close donors and others who speak to the president and who have heard him vent some of these things that we report on and who are familiar with his frustrations in the white house. >> so the president has had success on some major legislation. there is an alignment in the west that nato in the face of russia, those are two big
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successes, but there are a lot of crises, inflation, gas prices, covid, the list goes on. the baby formula crisis. his approval rating is not good. what is happening inside the white house and what is the frustration of the president right now? can we see some turnover? >> reporter: yeah. great question. one of the frustrations is he feels like his message is not getting through, particularly when it comes to the economy. it's been pressing. this is for a sharper message as democrats head into these mid--techl elections, where they are expected to suffer significant losses. so that's one place, then just that there is a feeling of that he can't catch a break. white house officials say the president recognizes that part of being president is that everything lands on your desk. but the frustration in terms of people we spoke with is that the president has at times seem to catch his white house orred a
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administration off guard. just look at the baby formula. they weren't on top of and could have been. when it comes to his poll numbers, they're not getting better. they're just getting worse. so the president has complained, we are told, about how his numbers are lower than former president trump's and that is something that he's just sort of displaced about. so there is a lot of pressure to try to sharpen the message, get some policy options in front of him and in terms of a shakeup, there is always speculation around a moment like this in the white house. there is spec laition that we are told that is very likely to happen until after the mid-terms. >> what about when the president comes out and says, vladimir putin can't be in power any longer and white house first saying, we really meant this, or he meant that we've seen that a few times. how does the president feel about that, according to your reporting? >> reporter: according to our
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reporting, he's not a big fan of. look, he's the president. he feels that plain spokeenness about him has been appealing to him politically. he's been in politics, obviously, for decades now and that he, when stuck for now seeming to walk him back or interpreted as being walked back, he said the feeling is that makes him look not in control like he is not really steering the ship here. so, there is a concern -- it's not just the president. there are people who are close allies of the president who shake their heads about this and say there needs to be a better way, if he's out too far on an issue, it's that correcting him in the way we seen the president corrected to go after that potential regime change comment the president made about vladimir putin, that that's something that is not hopeful and feeds this narrative, where people are, is he really in control here? does he have things under control? given all these crises we were talking about.
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>> here with me now is dean sperling and former director of the national council. americans are frustrated. that being said, unemployment is down, americans are spending a lot of money. but they feel like the economy is good. what do you say to them when you are trying to pitch democrats keep control at least in the house and gain more control in the senate? >> well, first, it is important to the recognize what has gone historically well in this economic recovery. i mean, it's not just the largest job creation ever. it's not just the highest road since 2021 in 40 years. it's not just the largest drop in unemployment. it is the most equitable recovery we've ever seen. it is striking that it took six years after the great recession for black, hispanic unemployment to return to where they were before the crisisch now, they
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are actually stronger, unemployment and hispanic employment are actually lower than they were on february 2020. i think the main point we are trying to make right now. i think you saw in the president os op-ed in the "wall street journal" is that we understand that even with these historic gains. even with so many families being able to get new jobs and promotions and raises, it hurts when you have to give back some of that raise at the gas pump or at the grocery lean. it hurts. and we know that even though this is a global problem, a global phenomenon. we just saw the euro announce inflation there was over 8% for all the euro. 9% in the uk. even though that's the case, we need to do what we can. the president needs to do what he can to bring down prices him and i think the large message in his plan today, though, this is the key s. that those strings
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actually can position us better than any other country in the world to make a transition to more balanced stable growth with lower prices, that we're stronger on the balance sheets. >> people want to know -- >> they're strong. >> will i see this change in the next three months, six months, a year? how much longer will i be paying a dollar more for gas? how much longer will my grocery be $50, more than every week. >> that's totally understandable. you know, you wish you had a crystal ball where you could you know project, predict things like that, you know, russia was going to do an invasion of another country and oil markets the way they have and put gas prices at $1.30 higher. i think what people should know is that this president is making inflation and lowering prices his number one priority and that
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means that when he met with the federal reserve today, it's not like five presidents you've seen since 1960s, who sought to berate him, because they were making tough choices. you saw him respect independents, letting them know that there will be no interexperience e ferrrence. you saw him stressing the importance of continued debt reduction because that dampens inflation. you see the president just constantly putting forward a plan and effort to lower prices for more families. yes, it's frustrating when the republicans don't work on any of those things. even things like lowering prescription drug costs or capping insulin at $35, you would think would be popular with as well as democratic kichtcys. >> for a long time, democrats and democratic presidents have not gone through. the fed chair, meeting with joe biden today. he has said that inflation was
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transitory. it doesn't feel transitory any longer, does joe biden think that jerome powell is making the right decisions to not let the economy spill out of control? spin out of control? excuse me. >> look, i think that across the world people learn that the inflation, particularly due to delta than omicron, preventing the infection and supply canes. the raising of global energy prices everywhere with russian aggression in ukraine have created a more difficult situation. a more global inflation, challenge than many people would have expected or have been able to predict a year ago today. >> is it getting worse? i was having a conversation, hold on, about the supply chain that and what's going -- coming
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in the ports once shanghai gets reopened. should we expect the supply chain problems to get worse again before they get better? >> well, as we've said, you know the continuation of covid leads to perhaps china, they could go to zero covid policies that could affect supply chains. but there is also some encouraging news, you see businesses are building up their inventories. if they're building up their inventories, they're less dependent on the supply insurance that and they might feel that to work through those inventories, it might start trading some pressure for them to lower prices. so i think you look at that when you look at how strong household balance sheet. the next thing is an interesting thing, when you look at checking accounts, savings accounts, household debt, credit card balances, the typical american is doing, is in a stronger, more resilient situation than virtually any country in the world. before many of those americans
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were in 2019 and that should give us greater confidence that we can make this transition to a more balanced growth. we're not going to have the record job creations we've had every month. but something that is more balanced and sustainable with w the resilience in our economy to -- to get to that other side, and i think you're seeing more and more economists start to say that -- that some of the strengths from this recovery also could be the things that give us the resilience to make that transition to more balanced growth with lower prices, even in the face of tough medicine that joe biden is giving the federal reserve, the independence and room to make. >> gene, thank you very much for being with us. we appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you. coming up next, we'll go live to buckingham palace with what's happening to mark queen elizabeth's 70 years on the throne.
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a feeling of jubilee is about to wash over the uk, at least that's what the palace hopes. it's the platinum jubilee marking the queen's royal highness 70 years on the throne. they are camping out for the four-day celebration that begins on thursday. before you roll your eyes -- before you roll your don't roll your eyes because couldn't we all use a reason to get a little excited about something? anything right now. joining me from buckingham palace with a preview is nbc news correspondentky simmons. make me smile, make me smile. >> you just talked to us in time to hear alicia keys rehearsing behind the trees in front of buckingham palace rehearsing new york. why are you in new york? you should be here. you're always here at these royal events.
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i don't know how that's happened. still time to fly over. there will be pageantry, parades and most of all a party atmosphere. the final touches and anticipation. london decked out in red, white and blue ahead of the historic celebration. >> god save the queen. >> reporter: marking the queen's 70 years on the throne, a milestone no british monarch has ever reached until now. these streets will be full of people. >> yeah, yeah. everyone will be coming out to celebrate, so it should be fantastic. >> reporter: a full day long display of pageantry awaits. on thursday pomp and ceremony called trooping the color, a traditional display dating back over 260 years to mark the monarch's official birthday, and then a crowning moment. the family balcony appearance, this time andrew, harry and meghan will not be there for the spectacular fly past an in the eke more than 2,000 beacons will light up the skies to mark 70
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years of the queen's reign. on friday the whole family will come together and on saturday is the queen's favorite event, the derby. >> the queen will be in the royal box. >> right there. >> she gets the best view. >> she gets a good view. >> she gets a good view. >> she's been a supporter of the derby for four years. only missed four since her coronation in 1952? the queen and her family clearly enjoyed their day at race. a party outside palace will include with a concert including the legendary diana ross, i'm honored to perform for her majesty, the queen. on sunday street parties, more than 200,000 events around the uk, over 12 million gathering to
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celebrate the queen. >> we've seen a phenomenal level of interest in the big jubilee celebrations this year. >> reporter: and to end it all a parade of more than 10,000 people performing during the jubilee's pageant extravaganza. >> people come from all over the country and so many people come together for the momentous moment in central london. it will be a real flitting end for the weekend. the keep has marked three jubilees already, gold, silver and diamond. this will be her first without prince philip and she is also facing mobility issues which might limit her appearance at some events. the country coming together for the queen despite some strange times. as rehearsals continue behind us, the queen has been queen since before the beatles and elvis. i've got my phone here. there's still tickets to fly over tomorrow.
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you coming? >> i am. save a seat for me and save a warm beer as well. i'll thereby. >> reporter: i'm doingterm i'm booking it right now. >> great, great, in all seriousness i was supposed to go. ive was getting on a plane to go but i've got a conflict, unfortunately, so, keir, enjoy it. i will be smiling from los angeles watching this. keir simmons, thank you very much. that's going to do for me. hallie jackson picks up our coverage next.
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