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and also children who are afraid. jessica, thank you so much. that wraps up this hour for me. i'll see you back here at 1:00 eastern. yasmin vossoughian picks up our coverage right now. hey, everybody, good morning to you. i'm yasmin vossoughian. the uvalde community continuing to struggle through this heartbreaking week of saying good-bye to the kids and teachers killed in last week's senseless act of gun violence. there are ten separate visitations and services for the robb elementary school victims today including a funeral mass for 10-year-old jose flores jr. that is this afternoon. and then another funeral mags beginning this hour for every made garcia and her husband, joe, who died of a heart attack just days after losing his wife. they leave four children behind. we'll have more from uvalde in a
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moment including new details on the investigation and more scrutiny on commander pete arredondo who tells cnn he has been in contact with texas officials. the president also wrapping up u.s. support with his decision to provide long range missiles to the ukrainian government believing that they won't use to launch strikes into russia. germany following the united states lead agreeing to supply ukraine with anti-aircraft and radar systems as well. we want to start first though in uvalde. joining me now is julia ainsley, jim cavanaugh. but gaud, let me start with you. i believe at this point we're about 75 days off from the beginning of school, much of the community when i was there on the ground saying to me they did not want to return to the scene of the crime to robb elementary as the school year began because
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of just the unspeakable tragedy that occurred there. and we're now hearing that in fact they will not be returning to those school grounds. talk us through it. >> reporter: that is correct. first off yesterday there was a lot of discussion about the school possibly being torn down and now we know from the superintendent that the kids will not be returning, students will not be returning to campus. message has been sent out to the community saying that they will accommodate using other campuses in the area for the students that were attending this elementary school. that message also stating that they will be making some improvements to other campuses in the area, but it has now been said by the superintendent in fact that they will not have to return to that campus. >> gaud, let's talk about what is happening there today. they have lost so many important people in that community, the babies, their future, the children along with two teachers
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as well. and this is the beginnings of memorializing them and then having to face a future without them. and i can't imagine what that community is feeling, those parents having to bury their children. as a parent myself, you imagine yourself going before your kids and in fact the opposite has happened here for so many of these parents today. and it is heartbreaking to think about how is the community reacting to what lies ahead for them. >> reporter: so you have different things happening at once. there is the investigation taking place, a lot of news regarding pete arredondo and that investigation, but you also have a lot of people that are coming into town just behind me at this memorial, the town square, we've been talking to people that came from all different parts of texas, a family came from kansas. and most of the people told me they weren't expecting others to come down, but they felt like they needed to see this with
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their own eyes. a lot of them feel helpless, most talking about the idea that they want to do something to help with these mass shootings, but they don't know how they can help. meanwhile you have all these services happening today, as you mentioned, the mass today, the service for the teacher, irma and joe garcia, that is happening down the street, that started just minutes ago. and if you look at the list, i have it in front of me, 11:00 a.m., service for -- at 2:00 p.m., service for flores and the list just continues. and all of these services happening. the families have said that they want to spend this time alone. the media has been here for a week, so a lot of them have been overwhelming with the amount of attention they have been getting. some have posted messages on their doors asking to be left alone as they go through these difficult days with all of these services taking place. >> julia ainsley, let's talk
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about the investigation here. which is also incredibly hard because this is such a tight knit community. they want accountability on one hand, but on the other hand, they recognize some of these officers that responded to the scene are in fact their neighbors, their friends, they were likely planning on spending memorial day with barbecuing and yet now they have all these questions as to why the police did not respond the way in which they should have, the duty that they have at hand. we're now hearing yet another discrepancy. they already have a credibility issue and now we're hearing the door in fact was not propped open, it was closed. it was not locked, but it was closed. you think back, initially they said there was a school resource officer on campus. that officer confronted the shooter. but then we learned that was not true. the discrepancy in the time, the 911 calls. it seems as if credibility has completely been thrown out the window. so walk us through where we are when it comes to the investigation on a local level
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and also what we know about the incident report that is developing from the dhs. >> that's right, this community already heartbroken will already be scrutinized as two investigations now are looking into law enforcement response to this tragedy. first you had texas department of public safety saying that they are conducting an investigation especially honing in on why these police waited so long before going in and confronting the shooter. he had over an hour inside the school. they say that they have not heard from the incident command controller there, pete arredondo, in two days, although arredondo says that he is in touch with them. and then you have the justice department conducting a critical incident review. that isn't so much to hold the leaders accountable, it is not anything that we would be expecting say a criminal referral to come from, this is being led from their office of oriented policing. they will look at this incident and come up with best practices and training to make sure that
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that can be shared around the country to be sure that something like this never happens again. but they also say that they will be doing an independent and thorough investigation of the fapg facts and that will include we believe that door being propped open, how did the gunman gain such quick entry into the school. at first we were told it was propped open by a teacher and then yesterday a lawyer for that teacher who still remains unnamed wanting to keep her privacy understandably said that the door was closed, that she saw the gunman coming, ran inside and slammed the door shut. what we're hearing now from texas dps is that the door did not lock as it was supposed to. why is that detail just now coming out, why weren't we told that before? i think that there will be a lot of details that need to come out not just in what happened during those critical moments on may 24th, but also why did we hear over and over again facts that then turned out to not be true.
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and i think that there might be an examination of the public record of how these facts were communicated to family and to the media. >> jim cavanaugh, let's talk first about the credibility issue here that this community is facing and the country really is facing when it comes to the way in which these facts or misnomers have trickled out. >> yeah, no there is no credibility left with the state police statements here because it has just trickled out as people don't exist, everything is wrong, the time line is broken, new facts every day. so that is gone. it is gone with the community and i think it is gone with the country. really we'll get down to the doj and the doj will make a mistake. i was in the doj many years and they will go through this long bureaucratic processor of a report, it is a big mistake. you are making the same mistake that the officers made by waiting too long. you need to do a lightning round. we could get a draft indictment, we could do probable cause affidavit, in two, three days.
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and america's children and american citizens need this report fast so american's police can make the changes today and not six months from now. so they should be putting this out a lightning report. i don't care if it is three to five pages, but the major findings that were the critical failures. no breaching tools, no tactical training for the commander or officers. 19 officers in a hallway with rifles but nobody goes around the back to the window or nobody ports through the door with their rifle in the hallway. this tactical mindset was a failure. we had many more rifles there than the gunman. but you got to put it out quick if you want to save lives, not six months. you can come back later with your big report, but you need to come out lightning fast now if you want to help america's kids and help america's police. don't fail like they failed in
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uvalde. >> what could accountability look like, jim? >> well, if it is going to be a judgment call i'm afraid that is not what people think it is. it may not be a criminal problem, it may just be civil lawsuits, some sanctions from the local authorities against their leaders, removal as chief, if they think that was a poor judgment that was so poor that he could be removed. most likely civil lawsuits by the families, you know, saying that you should have made the judgment to go in. he only had time to just do a stutter step and set up an emergency assault in just a few minutes if there was no active shooting going on inside the classroom. and that is the testimony that we have in all the reporting. however, if there was active shooting going on in the classroom, in other words you thought he was killing children at that instant moment, then you should have started hitting that door with shotgun blasts trying to knock that lock off, half mooning that lock, hitting the
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hinges, because killing was going on at the instant moment. people think they should have done that anyway, but if he wasn't actually killing at that moment, you had a better chance if you would set up an emergency assault. but the doj can report all this, get this stuff out so the officers can fix it, let's not wait six months until we have another mass killing and they are not prepared. >> and at 12:03 when that first 911 call came in, there were 19 officers outside that classroom and they were hearing shots up until 12:21. gaud, julia, jim, thank you. coming up, what the u.s. will and won't do in ukraine. president biden makes clear that the u.s.'s position in a new op-ed and the reaction it is getting from the kremlin. plus time to mask up again on planes. could the federal mask mandate come back? and will something actually change this time, what we know about the latest round of talks
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you coming or what? welcome back. russian forces, they are gaining ground as they continue to pound eastern ukraine. this is happening as the president writes in a "new york times" guest essay the u.s. will provide ukraine with more advanced rocket systems. and richard engel is on the ground for us in eastern ukraine. >> reporter: good morning. russian troo have set their sights on capturing another ukrainian city as president biden writing that unless russia is confronted, other would-be tyrants would be emboldened to invade their neighbors and threaten democracies. with relentless barrages of rocket and artillery fire, russian troops have already occupied half of severdonetsk. ukrainians say it is now too dangerous to evacuate the 12,000
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civilians estimated to be trapped in the city, one of the biggest in the donbas region near the russian border. ukraine's president zelenskyy called on the united states to supply long range weapons that can destroy russian artillery from a safe distance. overnight in a guest essay in the "new york times," president biden described how his administration is trying to strike a balance between helping ukraine without triggering a wider war. he wrote the u.s. will send some long range weapons which ukrainians have promised not to fire into russian territory. writing in part, we will provide the ukrainians with more advanced rocket systems and munitions that will enable them to more precisely strike key targets on the battlefield. for ukrainians time is critical. each russian advance allows russian troops to push their guns forward bringing new ukrainian areas into range, including the city of slaf henk.
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and this cobbler says after the explosion, he looked through the dust for his wife. she started to shout, my legs, my legs. she wanted water. but there was no cup. so i gave her water with my hands. and then she lost consciousness he told us. he doesn't know where his wife is now. downstairs, this american volunteer dallas casey has arrived, the six year army veteran said he was compelled to help ukraine defend its democracy. dallas and his team help the man down to a car bound for a hospital where they will tell him his wife is dead. are you making a difference? >> yes, i've helped people. yes, i have treated people medically. yes, i have evacuated people. but making a difference is not something that is on my side to be able to decide. >> reporter: president biden wrote that currently the united states sees no indications that
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russia has intent to use nuclear weapons in ukraine. but stressed that any use of nuclear weapons in this conflict on any scale would trigger severe consequences. richard engel, nbc news, kramatorsk, ukraine. thanks for that. want to bring in chief white house correspondent kristen welker and also pentagon correspondent courtney kube. kristen, let's talk first about what the president said monday versus what he is saying now of course in that "new york times" piece. monday he said that we're not really sending long range missiles, especially missiles that could feasibly strike into russian territory. now an about-face. and that coupled with what we're hearing from secretary blinken now alongside stoltenberg. let's listen and then i'll have you respond. >> ukrainians have given us assurances that they will not
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use these systems against targets on russian territory. there is a strong trust bond between the ukraine and the united states and as well as our alleys. >> what important is this commitment to the president changing course in his commitment to ukraine? >> it is really at the crux of the president's decision to change course and to approve these long range missiles. and again, i would just underscore what you heard from the secretary of state, officials here are saying that they have gotten firm commitments from ukrainian officials that these weapons will not be used to attack russia, but essentially will be used in ukraine for defensive purposes. and the administration throughout this entire war has taken that same tactic, that they are going to provide ukraine with defensive weapons. that is why for example there was that big robust debate over sending those polish migs, the administration said that they
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would not do that. there was a lot of discussion about a no-fly zone. they have not signed off on that. so this is certainly another step towards helping ukraine, but from the perspective of the biden administration, it is an offensive -- defensive step i should say and again, assurances are really key and at the crux of the decision to move fourth. >> courtney, how will this change the game for ukrainian fighters? >> this gaves the ukrainian military a couple capabilities that they need in the east. this is a very close quarters fight. we keep hearing officials talking about it as a knife fight. that means that it is literally a very condensed compact area that they are fighting in and ukraine needs a couple of specific things to push russia back and ultimately if they hope to defeat them. one is standoff capability. that means that they have the ability to fire from further back so that russia can't immediately turn around and target where ukraine was firing from. that is something that they will have some of that capability with this new mlrs system. another thing that they need is
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accuracy in their targeting. again, something that they will get with this mlrs, the system called a high mar, it provides them with a pinpoint accuracy. and they will also have the ability to move quickly. the high mars that the u.s. is providing are on wheels, on like a truck system basically. after they fire, if they are concerned that russia will be able to pinpoint or target back immediately, they can just move the system. that is not something that they have had with some of the other systems like the howitzers that the u.s. has been providing now for a number of weeks. so this could potentially be a game changer. the reason that it has taken so long, one of the reasons, for the biden administration to approve this though is because of the concern that it could be used because it has a longer range, it could be used to target russia inside russia. we heard from senior administration officials last night that in fact they have assurances from ukraine that they will not target inside russia with this weapon. this is the first time now that we're hearing that the u.s. has
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provided a system that actually has restrictions for how, or in this case, where ukraine can use them on the battlefield. >> are they trained to use these long range missiles, courtney, and how quickly could they get trained up on it? >> not yet. the system that the u.s. will provide, it generally would take upwards of, you know, a month maybe six weeks to train on it. this is a wartime environment, a wartime footing. because of that defense officials say that they are hoping that they can get them in a very basic operating capability in a week or two, they will train them outside of ukraine on this, in many cases they are actually pulling artillerymen from inside the ukrainian military. so people who already have a sense of how some of these systems work. the actual maintenance of the system is going to take longer to train, that would be more like a month. but theoretically they should be able to get the troops trained
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up on it faster than we had heard. i think that we could see some of the training beginning literally in a matter of days. >> kristen, how concerned is the white house about the fact that they feel putin will see this as they willing even more involved? >> that is always part of the discussion here within the biden administration. and as courtney has laid out, look, this has been under discussion for quite some time and there is no doubt that that is one of the factors that they are taking into consideration. but big picture, they ultimately believe that putin is going to do what he is going to do and that these types of steps are not going to have an overarching influence. >> my friends, thank you both. and it has been more than a month since a federal judge struck down the rule requiring people to wear masks on plane, but could it be put back in place? what the justice department is arguing in court, that is coming up next. althy body. what goes on it. usually.
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order that lifted the travel mask mandate. now, this past april, a federal judge struck down the requirement to wear masks on planes, buses and public transit declaring to be unlawful. i want to bring in pete williams. and i've been flying a lot lately and i don't see a lot of folks on the planes wearing masks. at this point it is a personal choice. if you want to, you do. so what is the likelihood this mandate could get reinstated? >> i'd say in the current climate zero chance. and that is really not what the appeal is about. the federal government is mounting this appeal because it doesn't want a federal court ruling remaining on the books that says the cdc does not have the authority to require wearing masks on public transportation. remember the government said a month ago that they would appeal the order. so this latest filing is the justice department's detailed argument on why it thinks the judge got it wrong when she said
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legislation in this country for quite some time. a lot of americans are not necessarily holding their breath for something to actually come out of this, but it seems as if there is optimism on the hill. talk me through exactly what they are coalescing around here from what you are learning. >> reporter: yeah, we're starting to see some early contours here. and i think that it is really important, you point out the fact that this is a body that has struggled do anything on gun violence despite multiple mass shootings including places like newtown and now of course this latest shooting in texas. this is not a place with a deep well of optimism for action on this issue. nevertheless what we are seeing a moving forward in a bipartisan fashion the fact that someone like mitch mcconnell has just blessed the fact that these talks are happening, that is notable to some and is giving some people at least the momentum to keep pushing forward here. what we're seeing is yesterday you mentioned this smaller group including senator john cornyn
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who is sort of the mcconnell deputy in these talks. and these talks are on a parallel tract to the larger group meeting happening later this afternoon around 3:00 we're told. that is a group focusing on a wide range of issues. background check laws of course, also though red flag laws, and then the conversation around school safety. and it is important when you listen to people like senator mitch mcconnell, they are laying out the things that we've heard from republicans before and the things that they want to see in these negotiations. listen to what he said yesterday in his home state of kentucky. >> discussing how we might be able to come together to target a problem, which is mental illness and school safety. we'll get back at it. >> reporter: and so of course lawmakers are on recess on they are meeting virtually. and so they have something hopefully when they come back to town. but what it will be a republicans continue to say mental illness and hardening
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schools. there is openness to that among some democrats, but at the same time democrats will need some of their needs spoken to too. >> and the house is also having discussions wanting to bring something to a vote, but it is integral to be talking about the senate because that is really where the legislation will be made considering the slim majority or lack thereof. and can i just ask you, i've seen differing reporting on this, any discussion in this bipartisan group about increasing the age for buying an ar? >> reporter: that is the conversation that is happening on the house side of this. and i think that what is notable, you look at some of the senators right now, rick scott comes to mind, he was governor of florida after the marjory stoneman douglas shooting there. that is legislation that they actually put into effect in florida. he then went on to win a senate seat. so it is not like you can't be a republican and make changes around gun laws. that is not part of this
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conversation in the bipartisan group right now, at least not one of the central premises. not to say that it won't come up in the house debate, but the real things that we're seeing the lawmakers focus on at this early point are things like background checks and red flag laws in addition to school safety. >> ali vitali, thank you. want to bring in now becky prinkle from the national education association. and adam skaggs, chief policy and policy director to prevent gust gun violence. becky, let me ask you about the optimism that you have going forward for changes this gun legislation. >> it is good to be with you. i'm an educator, i taught science for over 30 years. and as part of my why, i have to be optimistic, i have to believe that every student can learn and the adults in the system will do
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everything that we can to give them what they need and deserve on that they can thrive. but here we are again. we've been here before. and the talk about optimism in congress, i'm not sure i'm ready to do that. but i will tell you this, that we, the parents and teachers and educators, and the statutes stu themselves are rising up saying no more. and we won't be distracted by talking about arming teachers or fortifying schools so that they are not conducive places to learn or conflating mental health illness. this is about gun violence and we need laws that protect our students from those guns. >> adam, let's talk through some of what i spoke about with ali and that is what is in these discussions. there is a certain distinction obviously between the house and senate. and i want to concentrate on the senate because that is where the laws will be made.
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we're talking about incentivizing red flag law, expanded background checks, stronger gun storage rules, more resources to secure schools. and also talking about raising age requirements as well in the house. talk to me about what stands out to you when it comes to the possibility of getting gun reforms in place and how important it is for you to see a raise in age requirements in purchasing an ar. >> i want to pick up on that last point. it is critically important that we raise the minimum wage. federal law recognizes that it is dangerous to allow young people, older teens, to buy handguns, they are restricted until they are 21 years of age. and it makes no sense to me that we say that teenagers are too young to buy a 6 pack of beer, too young to buy a pack of cigarettes, but we'll let them buy a weapon that was developed for use on the battlefield in vietnam? doesn't make any sense in the
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world. your previous guest talked about governor scott in florida raising the age to 21 to buy ar-15s, that should be the law across the entire country. and if that is too contentious in the senate, what about things like waiting periods if you are under 21 trying to buy a long gun. so there are ways that we can hopefully make progress. whether it is background checks, more funding for the background check system, whether it is funding for states to adopt these extreme risk laws, there has to be common ground. this problem is too serious, we've got to be able to find common ground on at least some of these incremental steps forward. >> one of the commonalties in the buffalo mass shooting and the one in uvalde is the fact that they were both 18 years old and there were clues when they were minors. and those things were obviously not flagged when they purchased their firearms legally. is there any discussion surrounding how you would flag an infraction made by a minor so
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that when they walk into a gun store 18 years of age they would come to light? >> well, you know, part of the problem here is not just passing laws, it is making sure that they are implemented properly and that law enforcement and others have the knowledge and training to know what kind of tools are at their disposal. in new york there is one of these extreme risk laws. law enforcement had clear warning signs about the buffalo shooter's dangerousness, they should have applied for an extreme risk protection order. they didn't do that. and we can look at all the reasons for that. but part of making these laws work effectively is to make sure people whether it is law enforcement or others who have the ability to petition for these kinds of protective orders know that they have those tools at their disposal and actually use them. >> becky, i want to pull on a thread that you brought up, and that is the possibility of arming teachers. you've had texas lieutenant governor securing the idea of
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the poelts of arming teachers. what is your reaction to that? >> i want you to think about -- i taught middle school. being in a class of middle schoolers and a gunman comes in. my weapon if you were armed had to be safely stored. for me to have the responsibility of reacting and making a determination if i would shoot a young person, a student maybe? that is not okay. we cannot put that burden or that responsibility on educators. we cannot. it is a distraction away from what we need to do. and fortifying our schools in a way that our students don't feel safe or welcome as soon as they come into the classrooms? let's focus on what we know we need to do. we need to ban assault rifles. you said it, we need to raise that age, we need to make sure that we have safe storage laws, we need to make sure that we fortify those background checks. those are the things we've been
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fighting for. i was in houston with survivors of parkland and sandy hook. and, oh, my goodness, with tears in their eye, they said are they going to do something now. what are they waiting for. that is the question our students are asking of us. we are not waiting any longer. we are demanding that these gun laws be passed now. >> that has been a local -- has become the local and national call it seems after these tragic shootings. do something. and the president mouthing to the crowd in uvalde, we will. we'll have to watch and see how it plays out. becky, adam, thank you both. less than 1,000 votes separate dr. mehmet oz and businessman david mccormick in the pennsylvania senate primary. so what is happening with the recount and what does it mean for the general election?
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election, just over 900 votes separating dr. mehmet oz and david mccormick as they are fighting over whether undated mail-in ballots should be counted or not. on tuesday the supreme court froze a lower court's ruling that said those ballots should be counted. joining me now in lancaster is nbc news correspondent dasha burns. dasha, you are here for us. are those mail-in ballots being counted right now? >> reporter: this should be a simple answer. unfortunately, like so much with this primary race, it's a little complicated. here in lancaster county, those undated mail-in ballots have not been opened. they have not been counted. that's what the board of elections here in lancaster decided to do. however, the guidance from the secretary of state has been in counties to segregate those but they can open them, tabulate them but keep them separate.
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some are doing that. some counties aren't counting them at all. it's a decentralized system in pennsylvania, which is why you get slightly different variations of approach when you go to different counties. what these good folks are doing, you have norma, jj and courtney doing the recount. they think they will finish by the end of the week. they have three scanners. they have to do the recount on different scanners than they used on election day. they have a limited amount. the mccormick campaign has petitioned for a recount in some counties, including lancaster. a hand recount. you can't even use those machines. i talked to the elections director here about what that would mean. if you have to do a hand recount, how does that work? how slow is that process? >> i will be honest, i have
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never done one. from what i understand, you would do one person reads and two people would hand tally. you stop every so often to make sure you have the same numbers. if you don't, you start over again. i don't know exactly how long that would take. it will take us a few days though. >> reporter: they have about 112,000 ballots to get through. they have transparent through the process. you can see, we have watchers from the oz campaign, mccormick campaign and democratic party. everyone is welcome to look, understand how this works. did i speak to the oz campaign this morning. they remain confident. that's because they say he won on election day. he was ahead on election day. he remains ahead. i just talked to the county commissioner who says he does not expect to see much variation on the vote totals coming out of lancaster county. you hear a lot of the same from other counties you talk to.
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three recounts in pennsylvania history. none have actually changed the results of the election. >> tell jj we say, what's up, as he gave us the wave. trying to get as much done as possible in this very complicated -- how much times did dasha use the word complicated? how does this speaks to integrity if you have some counting mail-in ballots and others not? >> there's so many questions about this, including, how aggressive are republicans going to be in suppressing their own voters? one of the efforts will be to say, these undated absentee ballots should not be counted. these are real people who tried to participate in the democratic process. republicans are trying to disenfranchise them. the other question that's hanging over this is -- if i understand it's perhaps not probable. what if this recount shows that
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david mccormick has edged out dr. oz by a few hundred votes? will donald trump and the rest of maga accept that? just yesterday, trump's political action committee blasted out a conspiracy theory story that questioned the results in georgia. in georgia, the governor won by 50 percentage points. you still have people in the maga world saying, there's something fishy about this. maybe we shouldn't accept this. the new normal is not only is it complicated, but there's chaos. there's a very real possibility that you will have some segments of the republican party that will refuse to accept the outcome of the election. once again, this is the shadow of donald trump hanging over this recount. >> certainly not out of the realm of possibility. dasha, you got new reporting on
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john fetterman. >> he is resting and recovering. he is on the path to a full recovery. his doctors have told him he needs to rest and focus on his recovery. that's what he is doing. there's so much at stake in the race. john is ready for the hard fight. i think there has been a lot of speculation here largely because the campaign has been very quiet about the details of his condition. we asked for medical records. we asked for conversations or interviews with doctors. they haven't given that to the press or to the public. we will wait and see if they do end up releasing more details. when he is getting on the campaign trail still unclear. >> lots unclear in the state of pennsylvania right about now. dasha burns is in the middle of it. thank you, dasha. in our next hour, a critical moment in the war in ukraine. should ukraine be ceding
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