francis and for tulsa. [ inaudible ] >> the question was, had dr. phillips alerted anyone about his concerns? did he have concerns about his safety or the patient? not that we aware of as of today. [ inaudible ] >> the question was, is there a policy in place around patients -- or to react or response to patients harassing physicians. the short way to answer that is, we have multiple policies and practices in place that are

designed to deal with difficult situations, difficult patients, unhappy patients. but nothing that we have in place -- i don't know that any health system in the country has in place can stop somebody with two weapons that are hell bent on causing harm. >> has saint francis had drills or training here on campus? >> have we had mass shooting drills or training? we have training and we have educational modules. i couldn't speak to actual drills. as i said earlier, there's going to be 1,000 questions that we as an organization are going to need to answer. that's going to be one of them, about our path going forward. >> what can you tell us about -- [ inaudible ] >> she's another physician that

works in the orthopedic department. she was an incredible person. amanda was -- i think had the supervisory role within the clinic. the three best people in the entire world that are the most committed to doing what they do every day and taking care of others didn't deserve to die this way. [ inaudible ] >> the question was about racial motivation. i can't answer that. >> i will answer that. the information that we have thus far is that there was nothing about race that caused this incident to take place. >> how far does he have to go to

get to dr. phillips' office? >> the question was how far did he have to go to get to the office and was he found in that office or somewhere else? it's a short distance from the doorway of the second floor entrance into the physician's office there. he was found in the lobby area of the physician's office. this is a vast building. lots of walls. lots of space. lots of doors that open into other doors. he was found in one of those waiting areas. >> a few more questions left. >> you spoke about the firearms purchasing, confirming they were purchased legally with background checks. >> the question was on the gun purchases and whether or not they were purchased legally.

the information that we have at the current time is that they were legally purchased firearms. one purchased an hour and some change before the actual shooting event took place. and the other purchased three days before the shooting took place. [ inaudible ] >> the answer was about triage. in conjunction with our emergency medical personnel and tulsa fire and rescue, there are protocols in place to triage at the scene. if someone doesn't have signs of life or they can determine that they are in fact deceased, then they don't transport those patients. they are trained to extricate

and quickly move the patients that have signs of life or who are critical. that is what happened. our trauma team was prepared and ready for however many victims we were going to receive. ultimately, we just received the one critical victim. >> as far as your procedures, once you are -- [ inaudible ] >> the one critical patient was received when we were on lockdown. we still received the patient. >> two more questions. [ inaudible ] >> repeat that question, please. [ inaudible ] >> the question is whether the purchase of the firearm gave clear motive to the intent of the shooter.

i don't believe i can state any more that there was clear motive. this was what he planned to do. i mention that he had a letter that he had authored left on his person after the shooting. that letter led us and told us the story. so this was something that was planned. [ inaudible ] >> the question is whether or not dr. phillips was responsive

to the care and concerns of the patient. from the investigation that we have thus far is, yes, that office was responsive. that office made a follow-up appointment for the suspect. that suspect did go to that appointment the day before the shooting took place yesterday. the doctor's office was receptive, responsive and attempting to administer care to the patient. >> channel 2, really quick. [ inaudible ] >> the question is whether or not when the gunman entered the building, how open is that building to entry. it is an entry that is open to

the public, just as any other building. just as you walked in here today. there is no one to greet you at that door. he was able to walk in without any type of challenge. >> this is the last question. >> do you have any reason to believe that if -- [ inaudible ] >> the question is if our officers had not gone into the building as quickly as we did, do we think the gunman would have continued to fire indiscriminantly. we have to do it immediately. time is of the essence. we are trained to go in there and stop the threat, regardless of what may happen to us. that's what our officers did.

we have no reason to believe that he was going to stop. that is the mindset that we have. that's how we operated. that's what the officers -- the initial officers that went noots -- into the building, that's what they did. they sought him out attempting to stop the threat. >> that concludes our news conference. if you are going to do interviews, it needs to be outside. we need to clear this area. thanks, everyone. >> thank you for staying with us for this extended edition of "andrea mitchell reports." we are taking a deep breath. the breaking news from tulsa's police chief and hospital officials and the mayor. reporting extraordinary new details about wednesday's mass shooting leaving four people dead, including two doctors, a

medical receptionist and a patient as well as the shooter, a fifth person. joining me now is frank figueroa, the former fbi counterintelligence. we have been through a lot. most recently in texas. this was incredible to me. not children this time but another mass shooting. an orthopedic surgeon who had been treating the accused shooter, who killed himself by suicide. another doctor dealing with this as a first response. the speed of the first responders from the tulsa police, extraordinary. a medical receptionist there, another person there who tried to open a door to let other victims escape. one patient victim.

four innocent victims, one shooter all in tulsa with an extraordinary response from all that we know at this hour. frank? >> this doesn't get any easier to cover. it's painful particularly when it happens in a place that we consider to be a place of healing, a place of safety. so we are reminded again those places are no longer safe, whether it's a house of worship or a school or a hospital setting or a movie theater. we have been through this, but it doesn't get easier. some significant takeaways, andrea. first, since we are focused on guns and we know on capitol hill there's a bipartisan group trying to figure this out, once again, let's talk about the guns. what can we take away from this? first, we heard today that this was an ar-15. one of the two guns that this shooter had on him. why is that significant? it's by far the weapon of choice

in america for active shooters. it's the same style of weapon used in that texas classroom. we also know that it was a 223 round, a reference to the bullet. that is the same bullet used in the texas classroom shooting. it's a high velocity, low recoil bullet. sadly, it's the round of choice for active shooters as well. we also know that he purchased this weapon on the very day of the shooting. he purchased it at a gun shop at 2:00 p.m. why is that important? not only is it the same round, the assault-style weapon, but we know this could be the subject of discussion with regard to proposing a waiting period for the purchase of an assault rifle. he was very much at his flashpoint, what behavioral scientists call flashpoint. he was moving toward a violent act. would a waiting period have

helped? he purchased a pistol days before. very powerful weapon. these are designed to put people down. i carried one toward the last phase of my fbi career. waiting period is going to come up. the response here was phenomenal. we heard today that it was one minute after the police learned the exact location, the building, the floor it was happening. it took them one minute to get to the building and start moving to the second floor. why is that so important? because they -- we heard from the chief they started calling out, tulsa pd, tulsa pd. what we know from our training is that when you start alerting the shooter that you are now there, the police have arrived, it increases the odds he is going to either surrender or take his own life. that's precisely what happened. it appears his last round was fired after he heard tulsa pd call out. really important. we have this issue of hot

environment. you heard the chief say, we train to rescue in a hot environment. what does that mean? how might it have played out differently in the texas classroom? they train alongside paramedics and emt and fire rescue when they still aren't sure the threat is neutralized. they had neutralized the shooter. they don't know if there's more shooters out there. still, they bring in fire rescue, they provide cover in a hot environmentrescued and atte. >> stay with us. what you said about the weapons is so important. to that point, right now, we have breaking news. mike memoli joining us. >> reporter: we have just learned according to multiple officials familiar with the situation that president biden will deliver a primetime address this evening to discuss gun violence. this will be his most high

profile effort to try to galvanize public action to stem these incidents as we are now reporting another one right now. of course, it's not yet clear if the president will use his remarks to outline executive actions. we heard yesterday from the press secretary emphasizing that biden has done baltimore by executive order on guns than any other president. it appears the white house is looking to use this moment to really continue to build support for congressional action. senators appear to be making progress. the president wanting to do his part to spur further action. this is a significant moment. the president has really only delivered primetime remarks of this sort once before to discuss covid early in his presidency. this is a significant development for the president now. we have been talking about his role in these discussions and what kind of role he will play going forward. clearly, the white house decided

now is the time for the president to use his bully pulpit to push this further. >> this is so critical, because it's a balancing act. the hill did not want him to jump in too quickly because of critical talks between john cornyn and mitch mcconnell as a surrogate for mitch mcconnell on the senate side with, of course, senator murphy from connecticut on the democratic side because the blame -- if the blame game starts too soon, a presidential speech at this time could be difficult. the tone of this is going to be very important. >> reporter: that's right. this is a role that biden, by the way, knows as a former senator himself. it has been clear that the white house has been working closely with lawmakers to keep abreast of the negotiations. it's likely that they have been asking that very question. would the president's voice at this point help or hurt the

progress of the negotiations going further? i think it speaks to potentially where they are in the negotiations. it's also really important to underscore biden's role throughout this as well. i mentioned him as a former senator. he called for actions like the one he authored in 1994, including an assault weapons ban. that appears to be too far for the congressional negotiations. more red flag laws and background checks. biden made gun violence a priority for him and his campaign and his time as a senator and now tonight as president of the united states. >> of course, after sandy hook. thanks so much, mike. we know coming from you that it's absolutely what is going to happen. thanks to you. frank figliuzzi, let's talk about some of the other issues that we were about to address from that news conference. first of all, you mentioned the

timing of the ar-15 being purchased that very day, the semiautomatic smith & wesson three days before. also, the suicide note, what you could call a suicide note that he was an angry patient, even though the chief of the hospital, the doctor just saying at the tail end of the news conference that in each of the instances, he had come for follow-up visits to a may 19th back surgery where dr. phillips was the surgeon, that he had had several subsequent visits, each time he called about persistent pain, most recently in the last couple days. >> yeah. what i'm about to say may sound academic to many people, but it's not. it's actionable. that is that this event is going to be called, categorized as a workplace violence shooting. why is that important?

because the shooter was targeting people because of their employment. at their place of employment. behavioral scientists tell us that mass shooters have something called leakage. they begin to leak to those around them the idea that they are going to move toward violence. we are going to find out more about leakage with this individual. we know that the wife called because he had told her either right before or during the event that he was doing this and why. he left a note on his person, as you referred to. in any workplace, we have to become aware of the warning signs and indicators. in the health care setting, when there's a patient, for example, that's perhaps getting extremely antagonistic, angry, frustrated, people -- we all need to be trained in our work environment to recognize that this is becoming a potential threat. we don't know what that correspondence and communication looked like. i can tell you in the human resource setting, in major

companies, human resource professionals work every day with their corporate security people when they're going to terminate someone or discipline someone. they have reason to believe that person is going to act out violently because of the discipline or termination. a lot of consulting is done in the security field around that human resource issue. let's look for signs of leakage not only in this case but in our own workplaces that someone is telling us -- someone around us is telling us they are distressed, verbalizing, articulating how they might hurt someone, moving toward acquiring the weapon. they might say how or where or when. people don't just snap. they begin to leak. it's on all of us to recognize those warning signs and indicators. >> our gratitude to you, frank figliuzzi. your experience, your expertise, just invaluable today. also incredible expertise

joining us now, jeh johnson, former secretary of homeland security during the obama administration, former pentagon official. the tulsa police chief detailing how this happened, how this happened so quickly. the gunman purchasing these weapons just before the killing, an hour or so before, the ar-15 and days before the smith & wesson semiautomatic. i want to highlight for our viewers something that "60 minutes" played, this clip replayed this past sunday. the extraordinary impact of one of these ar-15s that was also used in sandy hook, that was also used in uvalde on their victims. the speed and the multiple rounds but also the impact of the shots. let's watch. >> this is a .9 millimeter gun

which we captured in slow motion. it traveled 800 miles an hour. it sliced nearly straight all the way through the gel. >> a little louder. >> now, look at the ar-15 round. >> see the difference? >> yes. it's three times faster and struck with more than twice the force. the shockwave of the bullet blasted a large cavity in the gel, unlike the bullet from the handgun. >> that demonstration shows, demonstrates the effect on the soft tissue of an ar-15 hitting a human body. imagine it hitting a child or anyone. i know that you have written very importantly about the value to people to understand the impact of these weapons and

saying that some of the damage, some of the victims should be seen, should be shown, some of their families responded. tell me why you think the analogy would be the open coffin and showing people. >> andrea, i hesitated to write what i wrote in "the washington post" today. but it's frankly been on my mind since sandy hook, 2012. you know as well as i do that images say 1,000 words and that there are some images that -- some words that cannot accurately possibly convey the reality of something. i do not have the moral credibility to say to a family member, you should make public the images of your dead child.

on the other hand, why should -- look at it this way. why should a child who was an eyewitness to what happened in uvalde, for example, go to grief counseling for the rest of her life because of what she saw but the rest of us are spared? the lawmakers, through their action or inaction, and the constituents who elect them are spared from this imagery. somebody this morning sent me something from "the times of london." may 1, 1945. just as the concentration camps during world war ii were being liberated. images were popping up. "the times of london" in 1945 said nobody should shirk from seeing them. the news reel companies in distribuing the evidence are fulfilling a public duty.

the printed word can glance off an inattentive mind, but the moving pictures bite deep into the imagination. i regret to say that that's what's necessary here. this happens over and over and over again. it's horrible. i mourn the victims. i feel deeply, horribly sad for their families. but i also mourn this nation's democracy's unwillingness to do anything about it. otherwise, it's going to happen over and over and over again. >> i have no opinion on it. i just want to share on "meet the press" this past sunday chuck todd asked a parkland father about your op-ed before it appeared today. this was his response.

>> personally, no. i would not be comfortable with that. it's terrible to lose your child or to lose your spouse, especially in a school shooting where they should be safe. i would not want those pictures of my daughter out there and made public. >> i just know that that's one parent's opinion. there may be others. >> different people can arrive at different conclusions. >> as i'm sure you have, going to the black history museum, seeing the open coffin and what his mother accomplished by her personal sacrifice. >> she reached a different conclusion. i respect anyone's decision. >> i want to point out, president biden has -- as we

broke a couple of minutes ago with mike memoli, 7:30 tonight he will give a primetime speech on guns. it's his second primetime speech. the other one covid. the importance now of him speaking tonight, what do you want to hear from him? >> what i want to hear from president biden is a bipartisan, non-partisan appeal to common sense. the opponents of change always take each individual shooting and point out, well, the individual purchased the gun illegally, or the individual got ahold of the gun illegally, or gun legislation wouldn't have made a difference in this circumstance, or the character of the shooter varies from incident to incident. but undeniably, the common

thread through all of this is the ease with which a deranged, troubled individual can get his hands on a weapon of mass destruction in this country. whether it's raising the age of someone getting an assault weapon or a wait period or a background check or eliminating assault weapons entirely, i hope the president makes a non-partisan appeal to just simply -- we have got to reduce the degree to which a deranged, dangerous person can get his hands on a gun in this country. >> i just want to point out that -- exactly what you said is re-emphasized by the time line for these gun purchases and the lack of a waiting period. the ease of a purchase and the lack of a waiting period. jeh johnson -- >> i don't understand how

someone in a gun store can make a sale of an ar-15 to an individual -- it should be obvious this person is deranged, troubled. yet he is able to hand him a weapon of mass destruction and say, have a nice day. i will never understand that. >> thanks very much, jeh, for the thoughtful conversation about a very difficult subject. >> thank you. a tight squeeze. as russian forces take control of more and more territory in eastern ukraine, new sanctions on russian oligarchs and the russian military, what it might mean for the war. that's coming next. this is "andrea mitchell reports." you are watching msnbc. s "andrel reports. you are watching msnbc

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the biden administration has just announced new sanctions against russia to increase pressure on putin and his enablers. this as president zelenskyy says

russia controls 20% of ukraine's territory. russia is gaining ground in the east, holding a lot of area. there's good news to report for ukraine. in a thrilling upset, the men's soccer team beat scotland in a world cup qualifying match. the first official match since russia's invasion. nbc's molly hunter is in kyiv. thanks for being with us. the american ambassador to ukraine has just had a press conference. what was said? first time back in kyiv since 2019. >> reporter: that's right, andrea. i'm glad you mentioned the soccer game. the pictures, videos, smiles from that. good news felt here. good news to see the u.s. ambassador back here in kyiv. she presented her credentials to president zelenskyy earlier this afternoon. she held a brief press conference. i will play you a little of what she told me.

>> the u.s. assessment, how long is the u.s. willing to give support? >> the u.s. government's goal, congress's goal is to support ukraine and help ukraine ultimately prevail. this assistance package signed, previous assistance and future assistance. >> reporter: she didn't exactly say whether the u.s. felt that ukraine was winning in the battle for the donbas. she spoke historically about the last 99 days of ukraine's and the military's fighting spirit, something we all witnessed. we did talk about donbas. that's severodonetsk that we have been talking about all week. 70% of the city estimated to be controlled by russia. there's a huge no man's land. part of the city controlled by ukrainian troops. it's fierce urban combat. street by street. really important to remember, there are still civilians inside

that city. no power, no water, no infrastructure in that city. it's the last city really in the luhansk, in the donbas before russian forces are able to close that pocket. the other thing we heard from president zelenskyy, russia controls 20% of the country. their military strategy in the donbas is working. >> thank you so much, from kyiv. a very big day there. the importance clearly of severodonetsk to the russian holding of that area. joining us now is the former nato supreme allied commander. admiral, thank you very much, on another new book. you are so prolific. i want to talk about the book, but first let's talk about the biden administration announcing new sanctions against russia.

and the long-range missiles and the agreement that ukraine, president to president, zelenskyy agreeing will not use that artillery to reach into russia to the concerns and, of course, the russians saying that this is going to escalate the conflict. >> smart play on the part of the administration. give them the tools but put the restrictions there that are going to avoid turning this into a direct military to military confrontation between the united states, our nato allies and the russians. i think it's a narrow sea in which the president is trying to sail here, giving all of the assets to the ukrainians that they need but not ending up in a high-end conflict. i think they've got it about right. this new package, i think, is spot on. it gives the ukrainians the ability to reach out to 50 miles in surface to surface

engagement. that means, weakening and shooting behind their lines. this is what we call a shoot and scoot weapon. it's motorized. it can't be targeted very effectively. plus, there are helicopters in this package, a lot more ammunition, more javelins. it's what the ukrainians need to hold this line and continue the fight that they are fighting so effectively. one other quick point, i know we are all concerned about the 20% of ukraine that russia holds on to. this idea that the russians are winning, i think needs to be measured against putin's goals. in other words, his goal was to take 100% of this country. he has only taken 20% after taking massive casualties due to the bravery of the ukrainians and the support they are receiving from the united states and the west. it's a mixed picture in the

southeast. we will see russia grind it out a bit more. i would not bet against the ukrainians overall. >> indeed. but let's drill down on one or two points. the pentagon said it would take three weeks to train them on this new artillery. is that realistic? we know how quickly they trained up on other weapons systems. >> yes, it's realistic. i would say other than maybe the most advanced cyber technology type of training, an awful lot of what militaries do is relatively simple equipment operation that can be taught in 30 days is a pretty good number. i was discussing use of drones with a leading manufacturer. he mentioned a 30-day time line to train the ukrainians. i think it's realistic. >> there's increasing pressure elsewhere, certainly mentioned at the world economic forum a

week or so ago, increasing pressure on zelenskyy to start negotiating. the u.s. is resisting that pressure. he has to come to that decision himself, as the country is becoming pulverized and concerns his military could get tied down in the east and leave kyiv and other areas more vulnerable again. where do you see this with pressure for him to concede the donbas, perhaps, and try to save the rest of his country? >> what i see are both zelenskyy and putin maneuvering to put themselves in the best possible negotiating position. i think both sides realize eventually there's going to be a negotiation here. much like the korean war ended with an armistice, a divided line. whether that line is inside ukraine or on the border of russia and ukraine, we don't know yet.

both putin and zelenskyy realize there will be a negotiation. they want to be in strongest position. that's why putin is grinding it out in the southeast. that's why president zelenskyy is reaching for all the weapons he can possibly obtain from us, using them highly effectively and staking out a position of no territorial gains for russia. at the end of the day, the decision to give up ukrainian territory in return for paegs or an armistice is a decision for ukrainians, not americans, not brits, not germans, not for russians. >> your new book "to risk it all" is on nine decision makers. i know how you would grade president zelenskyy on handling this. how would you grade president biden? >> president biden is doing a

remarkable job. again, if you will permit me the nautical metaphor, since the book focuses on naval risk takers. he is sailing a narrow sea. he has an experienced team. these are tough decisions. bottom line, what other issue can you point to in washington where nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell are in rough agreement on what we are doing here? that speaks highly of the executive branch and the president's leadership. >> thank you so much, admiral. i think we will start introducing you as the prominent author. thank you very much. stay with msnbc for continuing coverage leading up to the president's primetime

address tonight on gun violence in the wake of multiple mass shootings, new york, texas, oklahoma, in the last couple weeks. the president tries to get congress to pass legislation, that's tonight at 7:30 eastern right here on msnbc. first, we will head overseas for good news. good news for a change. platinum party, celebration, jubilation at buckingham palace and around the world. queen elizabeth ii marking her historic 70 years on the british thrown. that's coming up. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. " onc because unlike at&t, we won't raise the price of your rate plan. another way customers get more at t-mobile. there's a monster problem and our hero needs solutions. so she starts a miro to brainstorm. “shoot it?” suggests the scientists. so they shoot it.

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congratulations pouring in from around the world for the world who met 13 of the last 14 u.s. presidents. only lyndon johnson missing that great honor. american presidents seem to enjoy as much as the rest of us, hope to see or meet the queen. joining me now is kear simmons, daisy mcandrew and wilford frost. the queen has been dealing with health problems. she looked healthy today. >> she did. she looked well. i think what we saw today is history revered and history written. huge crowds coming just for a glimpse of the queen. those that we saw -- there were many right the way back here on the mile, didn't get to see her but she did get to show her how they felt.

that meant a lot to everybody who was here. respect for the 70 years of service she has given this country. history written and i think you see the choreography of the queen behind all of this. history written in the sense that you saw prince charles standing in for the queen, trooping the colour. you saw ann and william riding alongside. on the balcony, you saw the family, looking to the future. the working royals but also really i think as far as the royal family are concerned and as far as the queen is concerned, the royals that we should expect to be at the front, if you like, in the years to come. she pretty much said that in her message, urging the country to be confident about the future. there was another touch, wasn't there? harry and meghan are here.

harry was not part of the parade, part of the inspection team, if you like. they were there to watch. i think you see the hand of the queen behind that. trying to urge her family to come together. she will know better than anybody that a better than anybody a united royal family is a successful royal family. in the detail of what we saw today were extraordinary and i think important messages about what the royal family sees as the coming years ahead. and then of course as you mentioned little prince louis. fifth in line to the throne but doesn't enjoy a flyover very much. it was fun to watch but again it was also a kind of sophisticated message because kate looking glamorous. the queen his great grandmother and neither flustered by that. smart enough to know we enjoy seeing it and a part of that

royal family message that they are so, so good at displaying and putting across. >> indeed. we are just seeing now some images from that flyover. you call it a fly by? not seeing harry or meghan other than in a couple still frames. i think one of them behind there with the queen's cousin. not front and center on the balcony. also missing is prince andrew who we know is noticeably absent and has been diagnosed with covid. that's one reason for him not being there. one of the less important reasons i suppose. daisy? >> andrea, apologies if you are asking me a question.

i'm afraid it's very noisy here and the line is a little fuzzy. i think you said that prince andrew has come down with covid. so that he won't be able to go to the procession which are the thanksgiving services in st. paul's cathedral tomorrow. there's cynicism and seen people saying it's a convenient and of course it will help the royal family a bit tomorrow. it is a service of thanksgiving. all the royals will be there. harry and meghan will be there. we understand not their children. prince andrew won't be there and takes away an awkward problem because last time at a church service with his grandmother seen escorting her by the elbow and caused controversy. people saying it's inappropriate. there's more to look forward to

tomorrow. you can see the crowds. see the big shining lights behind me in front of buckingham palace where the big party will be on saturday night and might see the royal family really potentially letting the hair down. today was a traditional day. a day when people had to be on the best behavior and maybe saturday is a more fun side of the younger royals. >> wilfred, as people there celebrate it is so important to think of 70 years what this monarch has seen. starting with the coronation as a 26-year-old. she was in kenya on a trip with prince philip learning that her father king george died. without a role, public role on affairs of state she is the head of government and she is very

aware. >> absolutely. there's been so many articles about the way the world changed in 70 years. tvs were in their early days at the coronation watched by about 20 million people. most people having to crowd around the one tv that might have existed in the neighbor's house and then the next will likely be on the smartphone. the stark one applying to the uk is the country is a much more liberal place than 1952 and more merit based than there and the queen probably embodies the opposite of that and yet universally loved in the country. she can still be so revered

despite the fact that she does stand still for the things that are hard to justify in today's world. >> when we talk about the queen and the succession, whenever it does place, prince charles is less popular than she but struck me today looking at the youngsters there's a new generation coming up and although the young people in the uk less enamored there's a future here as the monarchy modernizes. >> we saw four generations from the queen to charles to william and then louis. i'm of the opinion that those -- that gap will close when he becomes sovereign because of the role it carries even if the

personal opinion polls are a gap apart. you're right. the royal family can modernize and change with the times. the queen wasn't that popular in the '90s and she is now and so as long as it keeps to modernize and change it will be there to stay. i think the international image is different. the queen is only head of state of 15 nations. barbados went for independence. >> i watched the coronation on a black and white tv. they'll never lose me. thank you so much why to continue the royal fix check out keir simmons' podcast "born to rule." that does it for "andrea mitchell reports." stay with msnbc.

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