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1,000%. and that obviously raises the cost of the goods on those ships to consumers. the senate has passed legislation, and i'm hopeful the house can do the same, send legislation in the coming weeks to crack down on these companies and help lower overall costs. and my plan does all this without raising a penny in taxes on people making less than $400,000 a year. and without raising the deficit at all by taxing the super wealthy and super corporations like the 55 corporations that don't pay a single penny in taxes even though they had $40 billion in profits. the point is this -- i'm doing everything i can on my own to help working families during this stretch of higher prices. i'm going to continue to do that. but congress needs to act, as well. we can do so much more if we come together to lower the costs for american families.
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my congressional republican friends led by rick scott have a different approach. he's actually introduced a plan -- he wants to raise taxes on working families by an average of $1,500 a year, put medicare and social security, medicaid -- excuse me, social security and medicaid on the chopping block every five years. in other words, every five years they're going to no longer exist unless they vote them back into existence. i disagree with that. what in god's name are they doing? i'll work with anyone, democrat, republican, independent, to deliver real solutions and real savings for the american people, not take money out of their pockets. now the other -- other element i'd like to address that has impacts on inflation is to lower the deficit. the reason this matters to families is because reducing the deficit is another way to ease inflation. my friends on the republican side like to paint me as the big spender. but let's look at the facts. facts matter. under my predecessor, the
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deficit exploded, rising every single year he was in office. under my plan, we're on track to cut the federal deficit this year by $1.7 trillion. hear me now -- this year by $1.7 trillion. that's a fact. the largest decline in american history. and by the way, those aren't white house projections. they come from the nonpartisan congressional budget office that you and the press and everybody around the country legitimately quotes all the time. that progress on tackling the deficit was not preordained. it was my economic strategy built into our historic recovery that we didn't anticipate a war in ukraine at the time. historic economic growth and not only helped tens of millions of families move up, it has helped our federal deficit come down. and now because of that strategy we're on track for a deficit to take up a lower share of our economy than it did before the
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pandemic. in fact, the treasury department is planning to pay down, pay down the national debt this quarter, which never happened under my predecessor. not once. not once. unlike my predecessor, the deficit's come down both years i've been here. i proposed a plan to keep shrinking that deficit by making common sense reforms to our tax code, leveling the playing field internationally so that the biggest companies no longer have an incentive to shift jobs overseas -- to shift them overseas to make their product because they get charged less in taxes and avoid paying their fair share of taxes here at home. we put together a multination initiative that i'm hopeful will come into play at the g7. and ending the outrageous unfairness of our tax system that allows billionaires -- look, if you can make $1 billion, all for it, just pay a little bit of your fair share, pay your fair share.
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billionaires pay a lower rate than a teacher or firefighter. the bottom line is this -- part of the reason i ran for president is because i was tired of trickle-down economics. it doesn't work. my plans are to produce the strongest, fastest, most widespread economic recovery america has ever experienced with record jobs, new record small businesses and wages rising. it's the foundation for an economy that works for working families. because of that foundation, we're better positioned than any country in the world to overcome global inflation that we're seeing and reach a new chapter of stable and steady growth. so let's come together and focus on what matters. let's build on the extraordinary progress we've made. let's continue to build this economy from the bottom up and the middle out. when that happens, everybody does well, including the very wealthy. thank you, and god bless you. and may god protect our troops.
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i'll take a few questions. >> are you going to saudi arabia? >> elon musk has said that he has a super bad feeling about the u.s. economy. laying off 10% -- what would you say about the economy? jamie dimon has said similar things? >> let me tell you, while elon musk is talking about that, ford is increasing their investment overwhelmingly. i think ford is increasing the investment in building new electric vehicles, 6,000 new employees, union employees i might add, in the midwest. the former chrysler corporation, they are also making similar investments in electric vehicles. intel is adding 20,000 new jobs -- making computer chips. so you know, lots of luck on his trip to the moon. i mean, i don't -- you know -- >> mr. president -- >> i'm not sure whether i'm going. i have no direct plans at the moment.
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let me tell you that i have been engaged and trying to work with how we can bring more stability and peace to the middle east. and there is a possibility that i would be going to meet with both the israelis and some arab countries at the time including i expect would be saudi arabia to be included if i did go. but i have no direct plans at the moment. >> is he still a pariah in your view? >> as president my job is to bring peace if i can, peace if i can. that's what i'm going to try to do. >> mr. president, would you be open to meeting with the crown prince in you end up going to saudi arabia? >> look, we're getting way ahead of ourselves here. what i want to do is see to it that we diminish the likelihood that there's a continuation of this -- some of the senseless wars between israel and the arab nations. and that's what i'm focused on. >> is opec doing enough on oil
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production? >> what i recently read and talking to my team that they acknowledge that there is an oil shortage, and they have made announcement of late that they're going to increase production. so i -- i don't know enough to know whether it's enough, but i know it's positive. >> mr. president, does ukraine have to cede territory to -- [ inaudible ] >> you've been always fair with me. from the beginning i've said -- and i've been -- not everyone's agreed with me. nothing about ukraine without ukraine, it's their territory. i'm not going to tell them what they should and shouldn't do. but it appears to me that at some point along the line there's a settlement here. what this entails i don't know. i don't think anybody knows at the time. in the meantime, we're going to continue to put the -- the ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves.
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thank you all so very much. >> will you go to the hill next week on guns -- >> my staff is -- my staff is dealing and have been dealing constantly with every member of the house and senate who's wanted to talk about guns. it's been a constant interchange. and i've been constantly briefed. i will do what i can to try to see that we have real progress. thank you. >> good morning, in is the judge andrea mitchell reports" in washington. we heard from president biden on the economy after another strong monthly jobs report. 390,000 new jobs added while rising gas prices and sky-high inflation do continue to weigh on his administration. joining us nbc news chief white house correspondent and "weekend today" co-host kristen welker and jason fuhrman, former chair and professor of the practice of economic policy at howard kennedy school. and founder and ceo of the marshall plan for moms which advocates for investment in
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women's economic recovery. so key to the overall recovery. she's also the author of "women who don't wait in line." and who could be against that? kristen, what did you make of the president's remarks trying to -- on the one hand, on the other hand but balance -- balanced -- balanced and upbeat report on the economy today? >> reporter: i think you're absolutely right. we heard the president try to really emphasize what he perceives to be the bright spots of the economy which is the unemployment rate, the fact that the may jobs report beat expectations, and it's our understanding that the president on down are going to have a more robust effort to really try to break through when it comes to this messaging. the president believes that there is a good and strong story to tell about the economy. but that it's getting lost. of course, the big picture and the headline is that americans are concerned about inflation at a 40-year high, at the record
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high gas rates that they are dealing with on a day-to-day basis. the president in a "wall street journal" op-ed this week laid out his three-point plan to try to deal with high inflation, those high gas prices, as well. he also, of course, met with the fed chair earlier this week. all of that is really a part of this new communication strategy to try to break through, to try to get ahead. you heard him emphasize the fact that he wants congress to address this issue, as well, to try to bring down the cost of housing and prescription drugs. of course, that's a longer term solution. so i think the question and the challenge for this administration is beyond the messaging, what more tools do they have in their toolbox to try to bring down the price of inflation. you heard him tout the fact that he tapped the sbr, and of course he and other administration officials are not ruling out doing that again. andrea, they have taken a number of steps, and yet this inflation persists. so this is an issue that
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continues to dog this president and this white house. but again, you heard him there really try emphasize what he perceives to be the bright spots in this economy right now. >> and jason, of course notably this week janet yellen, the treasury secretary, acknowledged a rare statement from any cabinet officials, especially the treasury secretary, saying "i was wrong," she was wrong last year when she said that inflation would be transitory, not as persistent and inflationary as it has proved to be. she and the other white house economic advisers were saying that and resisting larry summers and other people saying that inflation was going to get, you know, dig in especially with $1.9 billion in that recovery act. so why should the white house now be happy with this report, and how unusual was that apology? >> so janet yellen was absolutely right to say that she was wrong last year. and we all get things wrong. no one is omniscient on the
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country. i'd much rather someone who correct their mistakes and moves on than is unwilling to admit them. in terms of today's numbers, though, it was really nothing but good news. it was a good job -- very good jobs number. you wouldn't want much higher because you'd worry about the economy overheating. the jobs were added by people returning to the labor force, people who had given up looking for jobs, started looking for them again, started getting them, rather than the unemployment rate falling. that will again is a more sustainable -- that, again, is a more sustainable way to have job growth. we've seen some moderation in wage growth. now that may seem, you know, disappointing, oh, slower wage growth, but that actually is precisely what the fed needs to see in order to think it's getting inflation under control. so i think the white house's messaging job. get a lot ease -- will get a lot easier if inflation comes down and today's report made me think the odds of it coming down were
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a little bit higher than i had previously thought. >> but you don't think this a report like this would change the fed's direction which would be at least two more interest rate hikes of a half point? >> absolutely. i mean, the fed is just getting to normal interest rates. it's not actually slamming on the brakes trying to wreck the economy. it's just getting us to a normal place, away from the emergency setting it was going to be on. so definitely those next two 50 basis points baked in the cake. and they need higher rates even if inflation comes down on its own, they need higher rates to lock that lower inflation in. and they need to not -- they need make -- not just errors on one side, they need to be a little bit balanced in their approach. so they're going to keep going, and they should keep going. but they'll be a little less nervous. and let's talk about women's unemployment, overall unemployment held steady from last month. but the unemployment rate for adult women actually did rise slightly from last month. things bounce around. we know that the pandemic
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economy really hit women especially hard. so what is your takeaway? what do women need? >> women's labor market participation is still not back where it was pre-pandemic, and you know, part of some of the gains are being attributed to the fact that companies are actually embracing remote work and flexibility. and many women are still dealing with a broken childcare system. day care centers are still not open. you know, the cost of childcare is rising. so as they're getting more support from their employers, they're able to go back to work. but many women, for example, in manufacturing that can't work remotely are still lagging. so basically it's childcare, childcare, childcare. and you know, companies that understand this and that are starting to provide childcare benefits are seeing lower attrition, lower turnover, and higher productivity. >> and kristen, one quick final question. in answer to a question from one of the reporters about the president's plans that we -- you
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know, we've reported last night to go to saudi arabia which would be a big change from the very adversarial relationship with the leader of saudi arabia since the president took office. primarily over his criticism to us and our debate back in 2019 when he called the leader of saudi arabia the crown prince a pariah, and that happen he should remain a pariah for the killing of khashoggi. he was asked and said, "if i did go," he claimed he had no plans, but we understand that trip is very much on on the 22nd, 23rd of this month, "i'm not going to change my views. if i did go, i'm not going to change my views on human rights, but as president it's my job to make peace whenever i can, whenever i can." that's basically what he said. not acknowledging that oil is a big factor because the saudis have been refusing, you know, to pump more oil because they've been siding with russia. >> reporter: that's right. and just in the way that the
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president responded to those questions, andrea, the fact that he wouldn't confirm the trip was happening or even express a willingness to meet with the crown prince, the saudi crown prince, it underscores how challenging it is for this president and presidents past to deal with saudi arabia. and here's a situation where the united states finds itself trying to help bring the war in ukraine to an end, help bring down these record high gas prices, and really viewing saudi arabia as potentially being key to at least trying to ease some of that pain that americans are feeling right now. so you're absolutely right. we did report yesterday, andrea, that that trip is on, that it will happen at the end of the month. but the president being very careful, choosing his words very carefully there before they are ready to make that official announcement. again, it just underscores how challenging the relationship is between the u.s. and saudi arabia. >> kristen, thanks for that
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context. another subject, of course, and jason and reshman, thank you, as well, on the economy. and on thursday night, the president delivered a primetime address to the nation outlining the actions he believes congress should take to try and reverse the country's mass shooting epidemic. and the pleas he hears from the families of victims. >> they had one message for all of us -- do something. just do something. for god's sake, do something. after columbine, after sandy hook, after charleston, after orlando, after las vegas, after parkland, nothing has been done. this time that can't be true. >> joining me now is ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser to president obama. you of course were in the white house when president obama assigned joe biden after sandy hook to try to do something. they tried -- they acknowledge
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failure on that because of republican opposition in the senate. what's going to be different this time? >> well, it's not clear that the outcome is going to be different in terms of what happens in congress. i thought one of the things that was interesting in the speech is that he went beyond the background checks that have been before congress and calling for a ban on assault weapons. essentially coming out with the solution that i think most democrats agree with and a lot of republicans agree with. knowing that that's not going to pass congress. but i think that's important, andrea, because the background checks bill that failed in the senate in the obama years after sandy hook would have made things better, but we knew at the time wasn't going to go far enough to solve this problem. this is going to be a longer term effort to move public opinion and to change the politics on this from the bottom up to the point where there's enough pressure on republicans to actually get something to the senate. so i think what he's trying to do is define a broader objective
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than even what's being negotiated now, try to get some out of those negotiations. and we've heard potentially incremental steps on background checks, some things that could raise the age limit potentially on weapons like ar-15s. but also to start drawing a sharper contrast on the core issue which is the availability not these weapons in the first place -- availability of these weapons in the first place. >> and kevin madden is joining us, former adviser to mitt romney. the republicans -- most of the republicans certainly in the senate have opposed all of these things. and kevin, background checks would be so important in this horrible case in tulsa. he bought the ar-15-style rifle just three hours before the shooting. there was no background check. there was no question asked obviously from this man determined to shoot his surgeon. and of course he killed two doctors, a patient, and a medical receptionist. so, what is -- >> if you're looking for -- i think if you're looking for optimism here and in some of
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these talks up on capitol hill coming to fruition and producing something, the -- i would look at the track record of some of the senators that are involved in talking about this issue on the republican side. you have senator cornyn from texas, senator toomey from pennsylvania. they have a track record of working on expanding background checks or reforming some of the background check legislation. so you know, if you have that and you also have what the president did -- i think ben made points about what the president's tried to achieve last night, i think he set the broad parameters. now it really is up to these -- the senators up on capitol hill to come together around something that will get the 60 votes. and you know, that -- that long track record of working on this, the fact that there seems to be momentum and that people are still at the table, i think those are calls cause -- causes for optimism. >> and to your point let me play what the president said on the hope for those efforts with the
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republican senators. >> in order to do any -- get anything done in the senate -- [ inaudible ] i support the bipartisan efforts that includes small group of democrats and republican senators trying to find a way. but my god, the fact of the majority of the senate republicans don't want any of these proposals even to be debated or come up for a vote, i find unconscionable. >> so how does he walk the balancing act? let me ask you first, kevin, then ben, between making a powerful statement, getting -- building a broader consensus around this, but not jeopardizing the bipartisan talks and progress by -- >> i think that's a really good point. it's a very good point. the president has to be very careful that he doesn't question the intentions of the senators that are at the table right now in good faith. you know, i think -- he laid out some broad parameters, but we do
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have to manage expectations that whatever comes out of these talks is probably going to be a nay -- narrower version of what the president listed last night. if everybody can continue to sort of maintain a level of faith, and i think if the president does step back and now allow chris murphy, john cornyn, and all of those in the room to try and hammer out some solution that gets 60 votes, has broad bipartisan support, also has broad public support, that the political incentives are on both sides of the aisle, there is an opportunity to get something done. >> and ben, the congressional leaders certainly are trying to have as much impact as possible on building public support and putting pressure on the senators. nbc's ali vitali, we're learning that survivors and parents of the victims from uvalde and buffalo shootings are going to testify before the house oversight committee next week. so is they good strategy, ben?
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>> i think it's the most powerful thing that could be done. i think they're the most powerful voices. andrea, i think tragically, you'll remember after sandy hook, those families were heroic in sharing their grief. and i've never seen president obama as frustrated as he was when he had to stand there with those families at the white house after the failure of the background checks bill in the senate. so you know, in the past even the voices of these grieving families has not been enough to get to that 60-vote threshold to get something done. i do think, though, you have to keep coming back at this. and you have to keep trying to effect public opinion broadly in the country, and that's why it's important to the president to be out there speaking directly to the american people, while also trying to see what you can get done in washington and trying to bring these issues to members of congress. i mean, president obama used to go out and meet with families after these mass shootings and have the most wrenching conversations of his presidency.
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he would tell me again and again. those voices are not always heard on the hill. you can be isolated from the impact of what's happening in the country. so i think it's very important to bring the pain that's being felt in these communities to washington, inside the rooms where these things are being debated. it's a measure of accountability for people who are trying to avoid the issue, and hopefully, hopefully it's an incentive for some people to take that extra step toward at least an incremental step on something like background checks that will save lives and prevent further families from losing loved ones like we've seen. >> for those who despair of any hope, maybe not in washington but tampa did act, tampa, florida, when the parkland students marched in 2018 on the state capitol. and if it can happen in florida, maybe it can happen in other places, as well. ben rhodes, kevin madden, thank you. and joining us now, chris
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brown, president of brady, the organization named, of course, after our friends jim and sarah brady, dedicated to preventing gun violence across the country. we know that the brady bill was passed in the aftermath of that horrible assassination attempt on president reagan that grievously injured jim brady. today is national gun violence awareness day, chris. sadly, so many communities across the country have been dealing with this epidemic in just the last few weeks. it is a lifetime of concern for you. >> thanks, andrea. yes, it's a lifetime of concern for me. it's a lifetime of concern for so many of our advocates and chapters across this country. it's a lifetime of trauma for the survivors and families who lose 45,000 americans a year on average, that's 2020 numbers, that's the highest year on record, andrea, for the last 25 years. we all know, all americans
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across this country, we have a crisis. it's a public health epidemic of gun violence. i'm proud to lead brady because the background check system that jim and sarah brady got through, let's be clear, with unanimous consent in the senate. let's think about that. in 1993, not a single u.s. senator voted against the brady law. and what we're looking at right now is senators who i do think are working very hard, some of them, in good faith with chris murphy, john cornyn, and others, trying to figure out a way through. what i will say is the american people desperately want change. brady is red and blue coming to purple, and we're hearing from gun owners across this country in record number saying "i have kids, i'm afraid to send them back to school in the fall." and senators have to deal with that reality. that's the reality of america
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today. and if you look back at the history of gun violence prevention from the 1934 firearms act to the 1968 gun-control act to the 1993 brady law, we have only ever enacted major change against the backdrop of horrific events. the string of horrific shootings, if it isn't enough to get the u.s. senate to act, i think the problem that we have is really one with our democracy. with voters across the country saying how does this body, the u.s. senate, even work if we can't protect our own kids from preventable gun violence. the time to act is now, and i think -- i feel very positive, as positive as i have ever felt that the right leaders are really trying to put something together that can be passed following in particular the incredible speech from president biden last night, which is a
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visionary speech, but i think he's laying the groundwork for change. it's not the only thing -- many things need to happen. we need to see the u.s. senate act on this and reflect public sentiment that this must change. and it's about the guns. it is about the guns. let's stop talking about doors. everyone knows it's about the guns. >> chris brown, such an important message. thank you. i can feel the spirit of my friends jim and sarah brady today. on many days, but especially today. thank you. and they didn't get through. a local lawmaker says that police on the ground at the deadly school shooting in uvalde, texas, did not know about the desperate 911 calls coming from students inside. the latest on what went wrong coming up. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. reports" on msnbc.
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as we've been reporting, nbc news has learned that survivors and parents of victims of the uvalde shooting are going to testify before the house oversight committee next week. this as services in texas are being held today for seven of the victims in the tragic school shooting. a local lawmaker is now saying that 911 calls made from inside the school during the attack were not shared with the school police chief in charge on the scene, at least according to what he was told. joining me is nbc's priscilla thompson in uvalde and former fbi special agent clint watts. first priscilla to you. what more have we learned from the state senator gutierrez about those 911 calls from what he was told, in the campus police leader says he was not told about them at the time? >> reporter: yeah, andrea, very disturbing news here. the senator calling it a complete and utter breakdown in communication. he says that those 911 calls
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were being dispatched to the uvalde city police department, not the school district police department, and the reason why this matters is because the incident commander who was officials say in charge of this scene was the schools' police chief, pete arredondo. of course we know that arredondo is the person who told officers on the scene not to engage the shooter, to wait, that this was a barricaded suspect situation, and there have been lots of questions around that. and the senator appearing to shed light on the fact that the chief may not have known that those calls were coming in and that kids were asking them to go into the classroom because the shooter was in there, and it was not safe. take a listen to how he explained all of this our air teller -- earlier today. >> i called the commission on state emergency communications, and i asked them three times, would arredondo get these calls? they said, no, they go to a dispatcher that is uvalde pd,
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and uvalde pd dispatches to 17 first responders. and that list was -- is not available to them, but it is available to uvalde pd. i am told that uvalde pd would have sent to the school district, but i was also told by mccraw that for whatever reason arredondo was not getting the 911 calls. >> reporter: and senator gutierrez also had said that he expected to receive a full report on what exactly happened in that hallway today. but overnight he says that the district attorney he learned said that he would not be receiving that report. and we've reached out to the da and also the department of public safety who is leading this investigation. neither of them have responded to our requests for comment on that. andrea? >> it's really so disturbing because those 911 calls went on -- i don't know exactly how long, i don't have the timeline in front of me, but it was something like 45 minutes. at one point one of the children, 10-year-old, was
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saying that there were nine surviving victims there, and you had 19 police officers in the hallway. clint, talk to us about that timeline and how heartbreaking this is that they were whispering their 911 calls, and it was never getting to the the people scene apparently. >> it's an interesting dynamic, andrea. i think when we just learned over the last 24 hours, a couple of things will come out. one the command structure and who was the on-scene commander is definitely not aligned with what you would want in the situation where you have an active shooter. this is also sometimes indicative of more rural or smaller town police departments. we tend to think in terms of new york city or los angeles or chicago, larger cities where they have much more integration and communication channels. seems like here the way the jurisdiction was broken down with the school police officers being in charge of on the-scene commanders cut them off from the communication networks from where all these calls were going. i think the number was 17
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responders, but those in the police force. they're not in the school -- school police force. i think you're going to definitely see some things that were just not best practices in terms of how the campaign of command was -- chain of command was integrated with the communication channels and separately who is the on-scene commander in these situations. usually in most active shooter situations over the last 20 years since columbine, and particularly the last ten, it is closed with the target and eliminated immediately regardless of what the situation is, particularly in the case of a school. >> so it doesn't even matter ultimately whether they knew or didn't know, they should have been going in in any case. they ignored their own training. clint watts, priscilla thompson, thank you so much. and tennis phenom, star coco gauff adding her voice, sending a message after the biggest win of her career at the french open. nbc's tom llamas has that extraordinary story.
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>> reporter: tennis phenom coco gauff getting ready to head to her first grand slam title at the french open. the 18-year-old just finished high school a few weeks ago. >> there's no words to describe it. i'm super happy right now. >> reporter: she's the youngest singles finalist in a grand slam in nearly two decades. >> set -- >> reporter: moments after her win in the semifinals, the young american star using her time in the spotlight to send a message -- writing, "peace, end gun violence." >> now that i'm 18 and of the age to vote, i've been really paying attention to what's going on. >> reporter: she says recent shootings compelled her to speak out. >> for me it's kind of close to home. i had some friends that were a part of the parkland shooting. luckily they were able to make it out of that. and i think it's crazy that -- i think i was maybe 14 or 13 when this happened and still nothing has changed. >> reporter: even as she faces the biggest match of her career, she's thinking beyond the court. >> my dad told me i could change the world with my racket. and he didn't mean that by like
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just playing tennis. he meant speaking out on issues like this. >> reporter: gauff already showing the world the spirit of a champion. >> a champion indeed. thanks to nbc's tom llamas and to "nightly news" for that report. and good luck to coco tomorrow. and january 6 coming to new prime time. what we know about the january 6th committee's first public hearing next week. and a major new potential witness. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. on msnbc. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer ♪ ♪ yeah, i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin ♪ ♪ yeah, that's all me ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin, that's my new plan ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. most who achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months had lasting clearance through 1 year. in another study, most people had 90% clearer skin at 3 years. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses.
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it's a big week next week on capitol hill. the house committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol is holding its first primetime hearing looking at donald trump's role in the deadly violence, his alleged role as the violence was unfolding. the committee is promising, quote, previously unseen material. and witnesses the public has not heard from before. joining us nbc news ali vitali and "washington post" reporter and msnbc contributor carol lennick. congressional hearings are not the most riveting viewing always. sometimes around contra, watergate come to mind. but how are they planning to get
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americans to watch and really pay attention? >> look, they're hoping that by putting some of these in primetime, others of them during the daytime that they'll be able to reach multiple different audiences about the january 6th committee's work. this is something that they've been working on for about a year now. the public phase of these hearings consistently has been pushed back over the course of the year. but chairman thompson laid out the metric about a month ago. he wanted to begin this in june. he wanted to do several hearings over the course of the month, and it looks like that's what's going to happen beginning next week with a primetime hearing in which you mentioned they plan to show never-before-released materials as they try to paint the picture and create a narrative around what happened on january 6th, as well as the white house and former president trump's role in that day and the ways that they tried to overturn the election by pushing things like the big lie. this is the culmination of all the different disparate threads that the committee has been working on. and even though they have people
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who they subpoenaed, who they're fighting with get to appear before the committee, each though some of these things are still working through the courts. they still have hundreds of people who have come before them to testify. they still have tens of thousands of documents, many of which could provide us new insight into that day. one of the things that i think about specifically when we try to tease out what these new materials might be is our reporting tells us and my sources have mentioned that part of those national archives documents that they've gotten include pictures from the trump white house's official photographer. what they could do, and this is one of the ways that i'm imagining they could try to point a narrative, is give a minute-by-minute picture of what was happening in the capitol versus what was happening in the white house. all of of this meant to highlight what was happening on that day. of course, andrea, we know the investigation also goes far beyond that, too. >> and carol lennick, you were part of the pulitzer prize-winning "washington post" team that reported a lot of what was happening in the white house
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that day and also on capitol hill. so what more can they deliver that the public has not already -- is not already aware of, in particular you reported some of the texts to then chief of staff mark meadows, who's refused to testify. >> andrea, it's a really important question because a lot of this information has been, you know, in the public sphere. understanding that donald trump really did nothing except act sort of giddy about the attack on the capitol until it turned truly violent and shots were fired. that he did nothing to sort of call off the dogs. it's in the public sphere, what we've reported, phil rucker and myself, about vice president pence's harrowing moment inside the capitol and why donald trump didn't seem to do anything about his security as his own supporters were calling for pence to be hung. so the extra material this january 6th committee is going
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to bring forward which i think is going to come out like a bang next week in primetime on thursday, will be filling in the gaps and showing you as close as -- as possible what donald trump was doing. i think ali's right about the photographs. also what he was saying. and remember, there are 1,000 witnesses this committee has interviewed. some of them are very close to donald trump and were literally at his shoulder. his daughter, his -- his chief of staff through his texts. they have given information about what donald trump was saying at the time. people who were aides to mark meadows have the president's only words as relayed by him. what was the president saying? and one of them appears to be that he was sort of happy that people were threatening to hang mike pence, if you can believe it. i also think it's going to be really important for us to think about what imagery in video this
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committee has that some of us have never seen. obviously there was fantastic news coverage in real time, andrea, by your network and others that captured the moments of the attack, the riot. but there is more, and there is more from inside the capitol. and i feel like we're going to see a good bit of that. we're also going to hear the president's words. and as i have been told by several sources in the committee, those words are chilling now. the question remains will primetime be enough to pierce the community of folks who really accept donald trump as a savior of theirs and don't judge him for any of these actions to interfere in our democracy. >> ali vitali, carol linnick, thanks. you'll see it whether in primetime or daytime, it's going to be here on msnbc. and warning signs -- how a program started by sandy hook families is working to prevent
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we have major news on the january 6th investigation. just now, a grand jury here in d.c. has indicted former top trump advisor peter navarro on two counts of contempt of congress for refusing to honor a subpoena to be deposed and to turn over documents. he had been scheduled to appear under a subpoena on february 23rd and refused in both instances. so this is peter navarro, who was a lot more than a trade advisor. he was very involved in a lot of the covid-19 response, pushed
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hydroxy. he was involved in activities to overturn the election. he was an advisor before and after january 6. he was a close advisor to donald trump. these are the first indictments from a grand jury. we have more coming in our next noon hour in this extended report on "andrea mitchell reports" today. a few hours from now at the site of the uvalde school shooting, middle school students are learning how to try to prevent sim already attacks. in dallas, students have been training how to recognize warning signs that could lead to an attack and how to alert trusted adults if they fear problems with a fellow student or adult. the program is run by a group founded by family members of those killed at sandy hook elementary school in 2012. shaq brewster is live outside the school where this important training took place. shaq? talk to us about it. >> reporter: you know, this is
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training scheduled before uvalde. it has been going on for many years now. you talk to the students and this is something they were taking extremely seriously. this is a class of sixth and seventh graders. they came in. they didn't know what they were getting into. it's the end of the school year. very excited. you could tell the shift in the emotions as they were going through the training. they started engaging more. they realize this is something they should focus on. it's a group formed after the 2012 killing and shooting in newtown, connecticut. they emphasize three key things for the students. first is to watch for warning signs. for example, threats online. talk of suicide. they tell them -- the students to focus on the warning signs and act on them. talk to a trusted adult. this is something students say they -- it meant a lot to them, especially the fears after seeing uvalde. listen to a conversation with
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one of them. >> i'm thinking that they should not be afraid to get help for somebody because of being scared to be called a snitch. you are not snitching. you are just telling somebody to get help for them. >> reporter: how important is it to get help for the person? >> very important to get help for somebody. if you don't take it seriously, things will happen. >> reporter: take it seriously, that's the main message. >> shaq brewster, we look forward to seeing the full report on this story tonight on "nbc nightly news." in our next hour, the president, you will hear about his message on gun reform. a lot more on the breaking news about peter navarro's indictment. not the first, of course. there have been plenty against some of the perpetrators
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