>> greetings, you're watching simone, a former wisconsin judge who was killed in an attack -- but how did it get -- with targeted attacks. we are talking to suburban moms today. the major political party -- we are getting into everything from the baby formula shortage to gas hike edge. how mommy's view the politician. we head over to the culture corner -- i'm simone and i have something to say.

a retired state judge was murdered in his wisconsin home on friday. it was a targeted attack. police was called to the -- after the phone call 9-1-1, said someone murdered his father. he was found in the basement of a home with an inflicted gunshot room and in critical condition right now. -- there were somehow a sole political names on that list. and wisconsin governor tony -- today with our political panel i want to talk about the response we are seeing from folks who are unhappy with policies and elected officials. we have daniel moody, former republican reena, and tyler pager. welcome everyone. welcome.

let's get right into it. i do know that this attack -- governor whitmer who is on the hit list -- and alleged kidnapping plot of michigan and back in 2020. now i'm wondering, why do you think governor whitmer has become such a prominent target for -- ? >> simone, it's great to be with. you congratulations on your show. i think when you look at gretchen whitmer, she has become a high-profile figure across the country. and that profile really started to rise during the pandemic when she put in restriction polity's -- she was considered as a contender to be -- to be vice president tonight

running mate when he was deciding on how to pick. i think governor whitmer had these two things -- she took an aggressive stance on the pandemic, lockdowns since the beginning of the onset. then -- those two things combined to really create -- profile across the country. we've seen the response, which is a lot of people targeting her, criticizing her. sometimes it turns into a dangerous situation as we saw over this past weekend. >> yes, not to mention i remember during the pandemic and michigan individuals that the michigan state capital and not to mention again -- to kidnap governor whitmer. she had really become a target. and frankly i think that people across the country -- i often ask, am i imagining this? >> we are not.

violence is a major threat in this country and tyler -- the university of maryland. we had a poll from january. that particular poll found that one in three americans think violence against the government is sometimes justified. it's not just far-right groups, okay? according to the post, court records show that the vast majority of the roughly 650 people charged in the riot at the capitol, the insurrection, nbc we're talking about americans being radicalized and turning to violence? right, reena? >> yes, it's that aggression that comes from outside and online -- veiled threats into real physical violence in the real world. these are the two things that we need to think of when we think about political violence, the fact that it is directed -- in a rate that we've never seen

before. women in politics is rather new, women in power, worse. it leads us to believe that women in power do threaten some forms of masculinity. makes me think of how men react to women in positions of power. at every level. the reality is also there's a societal problem that is rooted and sexism and takes an emotional toll. it distinguishes how the aggression is directed towards women like governor whitmer. at a time where tensions were high during the pandemic. but what about the hit list and wisconsin? i find particularly fascinating is that mcconnell was on their. a republican. it shows how people are taking their frustrations and's thinking it's all right to pick up a weapon and directed towards a person -- both mentally and physically and take it out on them. i think that tells us right away that each of us have a

part to play in this. each of us -- bipartisanship as well as really just a rhetoric that we've seen elevated. >> we are having this conversation, i can't help but think about january 6th. we talk about folks being upset with their political leaders or upset about what they're hearing. in terms of policies or what is happening, and i think about january 6th, insurrection on our nation's capital. the january six committee is getting ready for primetime debut. we know the panel has been tight listed, but i'm wondering what role do republicans elected officials play in this entire conversation and tyler, i want to know what you're hearing from republicans privately, because as you know there is different from white people think publicly and what they say privately. >> yeah, i think that's what we're gonna see play out over the next few weeks.

obviously there's two republicans on the committee, liz cheney and adam kissinger both of whom have denounced former president donald trump's role in january six. obviously it's going to play a big role in the herring, but the big question is how this plays out for the general public. the democrats, republican and voters around the country obviously generates -- the disdain on american democracy remain, that people -- in partisan camps. it's to try to lay out the case about why this attack was so dangerous and why the fallout matters. i think particularly for republicans this is going to be an opportunity for them to, you know, two sides here. what's side are they on as these questions unfold? as the damning details, the testimony continue to come out. this is the most comprehensive investigation of what happened on that day. it's going to be a real pivotal moment as to how america

remembers -- whether there is any accountability for what happens. >> the committee does say we are going to get some, apparently never before seen video footage. that's some real connections will be made here, and that we have to yell back here -- okay, but we also know, danielle, that given everything we've seen with our own two eyes on january 6th, one of the two major political parties in this country called what happened on that day political discord, if you will. when i was actually so much more than that. tyler, talk about the committee needs to do. what do you think the committee could do at this point to really change how people think about that day and really view what happened on that day? >> i mean unfortunately we are going to need to have more than what we saw during the mueller investigation. we're going to need to entertain, unfortunately, the american people. they were captivated just recently with the depth heard trial, we need that kind of

energy over the course of six weeks. the reality is -- they need to understand that people need to be brought back into this process and the way you do that is not dry reading. it is through a bit of entertainment and sensationalism. you are talking about thousands of people trying to violently overthrow the government. we are just kind of shrugging it off. right? this is not something to be shrugged off. especially as we are seeing an increase in violence. they have an important job to do, to convince the american people that this country right now is still in danger. our democracies in danger. that's why i hope they lay out. >> i think our democracy is in danger. we can do january 6th all day but i want to make sure that we talk about other developments in the news. it has been, it has not even been two weeks, frankly, since the uvalde massacre, and we have seen at least 27 mass

shootings since then according to the gun violence archive's. president biden has called on congress to do something, the democratic senator, chris murphy said this morning that the legislation will not include an assault weapons ban for weapons of war, or comprehensive background checks. so, tyler first to you and then reena. what is the white house saying about it right now? reena, i'm interested in your thoughts both from the republican perspective. >> i think there is cautious optimism inside the white house that some sort of deal can materialize between a small group of bipartisan senators led by chris murphy on the democrat -- john cornyn on the republican. side that he could find some sort of deal. but it's going to be much more limited and acts -- that he laid out this week when he gave that speech to the nation when he sees as the bat best path forward to try to reduce these mass shootings. i think there's also some

concern that they've seen this playbook before. after the sandy hook shooting, joe manchin tried to put together a compromised bill that ultimately -- in the senate. there is hope, but again there's also concern that the republicans have use this playbook before of trying to work the democrat -- never getting enough votes to have something passed. we will see in the next couple of days which is ultimately going to go down. >> reena? >> simone, i've been thinking about this. i'm a mom before anything else. i think about how our state legislatures can do the work, but if the federal government is willing to look at that and say we can do something and that is one thing right now, that our leaders will have -- needed to keep us safe. if you fear for your life as a person of color or really, just anyone or shipping in their house of state, this is the problem in america. we are -- when our leaders will act?

we don't know. i'm encouraged -- from 2018 when the governor of florida, -- he can't convene the republican senators to do something. the bare minimum is really not calling all out -- i understand there are concerns across the country. i feel civilians should not have weapons of war in their hands. look, what about background checks? -- something that representative adam kinzinger from illinois he was not retiring said it's the minimum we could do. as a parent i'm frustrated because i've seen the kardashian ionization of -- it doesn't seem our celebrities are willing to put the pressure they need on par for the right -- >> all right. reena, and i see danielle moody bowing her head. we'll have to continue this

conversation another time. reena, daniel moody, tyler, thank you very very much. coming up, you know we like to go beyond the beltway. beyond washington d.c. and that is exactly where we are going. we're going to talk to suburban moms about the baby formula crisis, and the latest on bringing americans efforts relief. the task force behind california is joining us here at the table. we're going to discuss the task force, what they're calling for and they're going to talk about laying out the anti slavery -- with that means not only for california, but across the country. first, i want to go to my colleague richard louis for today's top news stories. richard, have you got? >> some, some of the stories we're watching for you this, hour three people died after shooting overnight outside tennessee nightclub. another 11 people were shot there. there were multiple shooters involved and is still at large. in the last 24 hours there have been at least 100 gun violence incidents so far.

seven killed in shootings. russia president putin has another warning today. he said the new u.s. supply of long range missiles to ukraine, if they are supplied, russia will strike new unspecified targets and facilities. earlier in the week the kremlin said the u.s. was, quote deliberately pouring oil on the fire. queen elizabeth made a public appearance today at a buckingham palace where huge crowds were in front of her celebrating her platinum jubilee. the crowd sang, -- save the queen. as part of the grand finale of the celebration of her 70 years on the throne. more of simone right after the break. more of simone right after the break. break. whenever heartburn strikes get fast relief with tums. it's time to love food back. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums ♪ while wayfair is installing your new refrigerator and hauling away your old one. it's time to love food back. you're binging the latest true crime drama. while the new double oven you financed is taking care of dinner and desert. you're remembering how to tie a windsor.

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right now it's sunny, things are fine, everyone thinks that they can handle that. that hurricane is right out there, down the road, coming our way. >> it's not just jamie diamond either. elon musk chimed in. he sent an email to tesla employees last week saying 10% of them are about to get canned, fired. musk wrote that he had a, quote, super bad feeling about the economy. president biden, he was not having it. he had words for elon and praise for tesla's competitors. >> -- increasing investments in building new electric vehicles. 6000 new employees, union employees i might add, in the midwest. the former chrysler corporation, they are also making similar investments in electric vehicles. 20,000 new jobs making computer chips.

lots of luck. >> the ice, lots of luck. there are times -- economists say labor shortages might be easing a bit. opec did agree to boost their production a little. america's a biggest baby formula maker has finally started production. we brought a beast -- [interpreter] to side the very plant let's begin with nbc's scott cohn live in california where he is keeping an eye on those prices. you've been talking to people there at the local farmers market. what are they telling you. >> well, simone, we came to this farmers markets because this is where all these these pressures come to root. the cost of -- the average price is about 6:33 a gallon. and then when you get here, you are going to be paying more for the things that you buy at the market. the growers who are selling their wares here, we talked to one who said that her costs are

going up in the neighborhood of 30 to 40%. everything from fuel to the cardboard boxes she uses to pack up her crops. overall inflation at 8.3%. 9.3 for food. 30% for energy. those are april's figures. we'll get more figures and may. for may on friday. it's that, it's going to take a higher interest rates to bring this inflation down, to have people like jamie diamond and elon musk sounding the long. not all economists agree with that. one will say that we're not falling into a session says that that doesn't mean that you shouldn't proceed with caution. >> when we look at this particular situation, you are looking at this as a household, you want to be thinking about, be prepared for policies that you did not anticipate. be prepared for a smaller economy. again, paying down near balance sheet might be a very wise way

to go. you don't know how high interest rates might go in the near term. the fact is that this is a really precarious time for the economy. the fed tries to rain and that inflation without plunging us into a recession. that means there could be some bumpy times ahead. again, new inflation figures out on friday. we're still expecting to be near a 40 year high. simone. >> thank you so much. you are out in michigan. they started making baby formula again. when is this baby formula going to get to the families that need it? >> summon, that timeline is still pretty fuzzy out here. here is what we know so far from avenue nutrition. the space was shut down starting in february because of the concerns and the scrutiny around this plant and the product from abbott nutrition. they have now reopened, they have started producing certain formulas including a

hypoallergenic one. abbott also said that they are not going to be releasing it to the public until around june 20th. two things there. one, the term release. they are releasing it to the public. that is not essay saying it's going to be on all the store shelves. that is going to be available at your, pharmacy or supermarket to pick up on june 20th. also they are saying around june 20th. they're not even being specific about the date. they are making clear that they are trying to prioritize those hyper allergenic and specialty formula for the most borrow children and others in need. i want to read part of the statement that abbott put out yesterday saying, quote, we understand the urgent need for formula. our top 5:30 is getting high quality formula into families. we will ramp our production as quickly as we can while meeting all requirements. those requirements have been put in place by the fda that were mandated before this plant could open. abbott nutrition --

there is other formula resourcing that is continuing to come into this country. we know that the biden administration has also been under scrutiny for what it is doing. we understand that on thursday there was another shipment coming from overseas. this one from melbourne, australia, to the united states on thursday to try to help ease that burden as well. the big picture, when you zoom out on all this, symone, we are looking at at the national out of stock right around 75%. that is the latest information we have from recent days. in some states, it's upwards of 90% out of stock. this is by no means close to being over. >> not at all. all right, nbc's jesse curse in vergas, michigan. -- thank you both. after the break, i am going to chat with three suburban moms and yes, i'm going to ask them about the baby formula shortage, record high gas prices, and how much more can they take. stay with us we will be right back.

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if you want to talk about the impact of the economy, if you want to gauge political opinion, you have to get out of -- sight i mean outside of washington d.c.. today, i am very excited, that is exactly what we are doing. we are here in the studio, we are going to go across the country right to some americas mobs to find out what they really think. i am very excited today. i want to welcome christian graham, from philipsburg, pennsylvania, terry's browning from oceanside, california, and candace hendrix from long beach, california. ladies, thank you for joining us. and for shedding some light on what is going on with our viewers. okay, i want to hear what each of you have been going through as it relates to firing baby formula for your children. candace, i want to start with you. >> it's been incredibly hard. my friend has a cow milk allergy and so he can't have

the formula. as of right now the formula that he can actually tolerate is not in the store or online, so i've been trying to use the generic brand, but unfortunately does not mix well, so right now we're just surviving on the sample that we received from his pediatrician. >> what about you, clearance? >> i have two daughters and one is -- she has many different -- protein allergies.

our medical supply or call yesterday to say -- and we called back again and we need to see they had any. >> oh my gosh. >> that is to say the least, unfortunate. kirsten, what about you? >> my daughters three months old, so this is her entire life. we live in a small town. we drove 65 miles a couple weeks ago and found two cans. we drove two and a half hours last weekend and were able to get -- we couldn't find the generic. -- the formula exchange. we've really just been using samples. >> oh my god.

as i've been researching this issue and we've been talking on the news, so many people either say well, people can breastfeed. i say that's not an option for everybody. or people can make their own formula. it did not dawn on me that folks out there don't know that making your own formula can be dangerous. the fda has even put a statement out saying don't do it! basically, they said problems with homemade formulas include contamination -- tornadic acquitted mount of nutrients. both of which could be life-threatening. but what if you don't have anything else? how many of you have ever considered making your own formula? >> nobody here? teresa is like no. none of you have. because it's just that dangerous. >> yeah. it's definitely that dangerous. >> this shortage, my question is who do you think is to blame

here? is it discourages, the plant in michigan that is run by abbott. do you blame the fda, food and drug administration? do you blame your politicians? do you blame the people at the grocery store? who do you blame? kirsten, i'll start with you. who do you blame? >> i don't think i've been thinking much about who to blame. i'm not sure how to answer that right now. >> maybe you don't blame anyone. i think that's fine. i think there's an idea that somehow the baby formula shortage is resulting in the angry moms, that moms are out there blaming folks, but from your perspective, you're just trying to get food for your child. >> yeah. we even got a prescription from her doctor for it. -- we couldn't even find a pharmacy --

just focusing on where to find it. >> teresa, do you blame anyone for this baby formula shortage? >> absolutely. [laughs] i blame everybody involved. the grocery bagger at the store. why do you put so much focus on one plant and one state -- why do you only make specifically that formula instead of having to wait on importing it from the northern land or canada? it's federal, it's that era. >> okay, well we know it's not just baby formula you're dealing with. we talk about inflation. prices are high. just trying to wave the family dream -- i want you to take a look at

this. >> groceries or electricity? >> i pay rent. the utilities. >> my guess pay about this much. couldn't get enough to get me where i need to be. to get back home. >> the future for me -- it kind of brings me back to how i was feeling in the early days of the pandemic where we kind of just know it was going to happen. >> all right, show of hands. who can relate to any of these concerns? >> i see everyone raise their hands. candace, you first. what about that video? >> i have two kids. i have a four month old and an eight month old son. with that with the rising gas prices and groceries, it's extremely hard to try to take care of your family. also provide a roof over their heads and provide them with

clothes and shoes. it's extremely hard. i can definitely relate to that video. >> we are a military family. we need -- resources for food bennett for gas. -- 6:43. i'm definitely feeling it. >> kirsten, you also raised your hand. i am wondering all these things are being said about with the government and officials are trying to duty ease the cost on families. do you feel -- are you feeling any of the release? >> not necessarily. i graduated when i was 30 weeks pregnant with my daughter from college. >> congratulations.

>> i'm staying at home with her. and we have to drive a half hour to get to walmart. it's a lot right now. >> oh my goodness. kirstjen, teresa and candace, i think -- i thank each of you for shining a light on what's really happening out there in america. i appreciate your time. thank you for being with us today. >> thank you for having us. >> up next, the breakout in the breakthrough. reports that we are seeing from california on the damage done by slavery. there is a lot you may or may not know about -- we got recommendations from that report for reparation. tonight, tune in for devils advocate. the story of giovanni stefano, all about the lawyer the who is who of the criminal world from charles manson to saddam hussein. the investigation that revealed

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california has discovered black residents of next lee marginalized and exploited from slavery to the -- nearly 500 case document from the california task force to study and develop reputation proposals for african americans gives a damning, 150-year account of the devastating effect of systemic racism. -- camilla joins me now. madam chairwoman, this is already been a massive undertaking. how have you been able to gather all this information? >> thank you for having me, simone. the task force said the two-year effort, wary in year one. in this past year we've heard from personal and expert witnesses. people from the california public. formal hearings that we've held vehemently, and in those hearings we've discussed the various topics, starting with

-- the slave trade and the u.s. institution of slavery. discussing not only the federal government complicity and retaining the institutions, but obviously california's role to more contemporary -- african american community. and that is where this nearly 500 page report represents. it's the detailing of all of what we've learned and this past year. >> i mean, it is extensive. it goes in-depth all the way down to black residents in california. can you share some of these examples that were highlighted in the report? >> yes, and i want to first start with this dominant narrative that is out there right now, where people say why is california doing this, it's california even a slave state? we learned early on in the process that i versus timber hearing and inviting expert witnesses like professor smith who is an expert on california's role in

perpetuating the institution of slavery. we learned although california was admitted in 1850 as a free state, that was truly only in maine. there were about 1500 blacks in the state -- in 1852. they actually enacted a fugitive slave act, with that meant was if you were free black person in the state of california, you could be deported to the deep south to become rian slaved or in some instances, rian slaved in the state of california itself. but the harm really starts with california and slavery. >> it also goes on to include 95 recommendations. let me read them. it's to address segregation, environmental racism, wealth gap, political disenfranchisement and so many other component systemic oppression impacting black residents in america. the recommendations here, what realistically do you think is

going to get done from this recommendation? what do you think is going to, you think it's going to go from a recommendation to an implementation? >> exactly. ultimately, it's up to the california state legislature to implemented our recommendations. an interesting caveat is this as an interim report of the 95 recommendations are preliminary. we have another or final report coming up in july of next year. which will contain our final comprehensive preparations plan. which also must comport with international human rights law standards. there still some artwork that the task force has to do. >> madam chairwoman, camilla more, thank you very much for your time. and for your work. we look forward to seeing the final details of the final report. thank you. when we come back, i'm heading into my culture corner. we are talking about the commercialization of juneteenth. wait till you see. we are also going to talk about

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greetings! let's get into it. social media was on fire this week. folks called out and indianapolis children's museum for, wait for it, having the nerve to dish out a juneteenth theme watermelon salad. this comes just weeks after walmart faced backlash for its juneteenth trademark ice cream. a paper where set -- that reads quote, it's the freedom for me. both museum and walmart have since apologized. we all love -- and the celebration of it. claudia, where is the line that you draw? on the -- where is the line? >> haven't people made enough about pain and exploiting us and now they're making off of juneteenth. the fact that it's great value that made the item, i'm sorry, great value. they are the trash of brands. we have got to have a great value low value attempt at

spoiling juneteenth. i'm tired of it. it's very disrespectful. they're like, my bad, like they didn't know. there will be stereotypical things, watermelons solid, why don't you serve aside of chicken lawyer at? it's such a slap in the face with the stereotypes. >> we have to reach out to great value for their comments. i feel like they're going to want to defend their ice cream. i feel. you i really do think all of this started when juneteenth became a federal holiday last year. i worked at the white house at the time. i'm amara inside the building, they were very excited about it. the vice president, she also did the ceremonial signing of the bill. people outside the building or, like, this is a little sketch. >> some around, i hope you don't hate me for saying this. when everything went down. obviously it was momentous day. a great day, by the way, thank you for having me on. i knew it was going to get corporations from all over.

they were going to take it away from us. it happens quicker than possible. now a social media and all these things. you saw it. -- it really hurt my feelings. it looked, it looked like i did when -- it looked like something that i saw at our kwanzaa party. you know what i'm saying? it's really, it's really sad that even this gets hijacked. i want corporations to either include us in these meetings so we have a little bit a say some, veto power, or just altogether leave these holidays alone. hire out an agency to do these promotions. or say yes or no. please stop. >> ben some diversity dollars. i will say that people have forgotten that juneteenth is about slavery. it is when the last enslaved people find out they were free years after, by the way, there slavery had ended. maybe we need some competency

training for the folks that corporations. claudia's, like i don't know. [laughs] when is it going to stop? we know that 250,000 slaves continue to war and to be and slayed in texas. here we are with corporations celebrating with red, black, and green paper plates. ice cream and watermelon salad. get out of here. we see this in 2020, we've seen this with george floyd, how much it has been commercialized. the audacity for me. it's clear that they don't have diversity on the panels to tell him that this is not a good idea. just like the designs were slapping us in the face with the characters they would put out. -- look at what we did, look, no. >> okay, look, let's talk about the nba finals for second. they are happening right now. folks are talking about more than just the game. and i show support for wnba

star brittney griner who is still and russian president as we speak. she's been in it for more than 100 days. we know that the nba, they posted a tweet, okay, let that tweet up. let's show the image of boston celtics players showing their shirts ahead of the game. by the way, they win over the warriors. what do you think other nba teams and star should be doing? i think is one of the first major shows of support i've seen for britney griner. >> the digital market are in me is making me think this. by the way, when i found out this came from the players, it's amazing. when i was -- i thought the marking was be a little bit more, have a little bit more teeth to it. come on, one -- say brittani g. say free b.j..

-- and i'm just telling you, that is not how that's not good branding. when i'm hearing, i need to call my friends at the nba and have them call you we will work on that. -- >> thank you elbow for being here. >> we will be back after the break. voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪ [sfx: fighter jet flying] [tom cruise] tower this is ghost rider, requesting flyby. [control tower] negative ghost rider, the pattern is full. [sfx: fighter jet flying] ♪ ah, thunder, ah, thunder ♪ ♪ thunderstruck ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ thunderstruck ♪

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