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it is just about time for politic nation with my good friend reverend al sharpton. i'm looking forward to seeing your show, today. cannot wait. >> she will be with us. i am sure you will be watching. it's always good to be with you, my dear friend. friendgood evening and welcome o politicsnation. tonight's lead stress test. right now, our lawmakers are resolve to reduce gun violence. it's about to be truly tested. after the mass shootings have horrified the nation, but not it produced a tangible, political result. this week, the house is expected to vote on a slate of
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gun reform bills. containing most of what president biden called for in his primetime address. among them a resurrected assault weapon ban. one of the many measures presumed to be -- for republicans in the senate. where are much narrower package is being negotiated, cast by some as less ambitious but possibly best chance to advance any kind of gun reform. even amid more than more than 20 mass shootings in the last month. still, you must win elections to pass legislation. after the recent shootings in buffalo, eovaldi and elsewhere. this is one of the political realities that democrats must reckon with before the midterm election. along with abortion rights right. the rise in inflation.
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and the likelihood of even more seismic developments. coming out of the house select committee from january 6th to -- white house aides of donald trump now having been indicted for defying subpoenas related to the investigation. by the end of the week, we will have seen the first witnesses in the first public hearing televised on prime time. held by the select committee. all of that tonight on politicsnation. congressman in the shadow of this. before i get to the congressman, we start with an update from the war on ukraine. let's go to nbc's ali arouzi. he is joining us live from kyiv. ali, what is the latest you've been seeing on the ground there? >> good evening, reverend.
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a series of explosions rocked kyiv this morning at about 6 am local time. ukrainian authorities say the russians launched five x 22 cruise missiles from the caspian sea. these were the first attacks on the capital since the 29th of april. they shattered that sense of calmness that existed in the city for about over a month now. right off till the -- took place. columns and black smoke could be seen billowing over the city. it was a frightening sight for the residents of kyiv who haven't seen in a while. the russians have said that they were targeting tanks that were delivered to the ukraine from the east and european allies. but keefe says that is totally untrue. they're saying that the russians targeted a railway
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repair depot and there were grain wagons. it's an essential lifeline to world food organizations. there's such a lack of wheat right now in the world because of those grain shortages. also rather worrying, reverent, the authorities here in ukraine also said that one of those missiles flew critically low over major nuclear power plants in this country. of course these attacks coming as the russians are losing momentum on the eastern front. now the ukrainians seem to have gained more momentum. they've recaptured land. this could be a strike in retaliation for the ukrainian gaining momentum. that was a ukrainian politician here today lets that that the russians attacked kyiv because they're so frustrated in the donbas area. and the fight isn't going their
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way. also, earlier on today, rather interesting lee on russian state tv, vladimir putin issued a warning to the united states to western powers, that if they carry through with their promise to supply the ukrainians with long range missiles, then russia would hit targets that it has not targeted before. he did not specify where or when those targets were, but given the attack this morning on kyiv, it's likely that the capital would bear the brunt of the attacks. to be fair, those long-range missiles aren't going to come into the battlefield. it will be three weeks till they get to the battlefield while the ukrainians are trained to use them. people here are bracing for an attack by the russians beyond the eastern front once those long range missiles are in play in the country. clearly, vladimir putin does
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not want the ukrainians to be able to retaliate and strike. ukrainians are saying that those long range missiles are essential for them. they could hit targets that are about 45 miles away. very precisely. they say that once they have those missiles, they could push the russians away from the eastern front and the governor of luhansk even said that once they attack the russians with those long range missiles, all the russians are going to do is run. this looks like this battle is going to intensify over the week. the russians trying to gain more ground and the ukrainians trying to push them back with more advanced weapons. reverend? >> thank you for that, ali in kyiv. let me go before i go to the congressman. i'm very happy to have him on tonight. he's someone i've known -- she is someone i've known since the day she was born. joining me now is yolanda rené
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king. activist and granddaughter of dr. martin luther king junior. yolanda, thank you for joining me today. >> thank you so much for having me. >> following the tragedies out of buffalo, new york, in uvalde texas. he put out a very powerful op-ed in the washington post last week. and reading in part, quote, my generation has to stand up against gun violence. and quote. in the op-ed you outlined that you lost both your grandfather and great grandmother to gun violence. can you start by telling our viewers why it was important to you as a young activist, 14 years old and just recently turned 14, as you know, why was it important to you to raise attention to gun violence in america and call action to this issue? >> i think it's so important,
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because if you look at all the mass shootings there have been, it's unacceptable. it's repetitive. nothing has been done. and so, i would like to really make sure that action is done. it's a concerning issue. children should not have to be scared to go to school every day. nor should parents be scared to send their kids to school every day. people shouldn't be scared to go out and enjoy their saturday without having to -- people should not have to be worried about going out and being targeted because of the way they look. it's sad that this is our reality. and i had the opportunity, really everyone has the opportunity to change this, to make sure that this is not our
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reality. so that's why i wrote that op-ed. that's why i'm speaking out against this issue, because gun violence has to go. >> i know that you have been concerned about violence and gun violence for a while. you spoke at the big washington march for our lives. you've been involved and impassioned about rousing -- voting rights, civil rights. he spoke at the big margin 2020 at the lincoln memorial where your grandfather had done his speech. that was organized by your dad and your mother. and myself. but you seem to be really focused on this gun issue tour you've set out without any prompting and wrote this op-ed. that's why wanted to talk to you about it. as you raise awareness of the gun violence epidemic, i'm sure it hits very close to home,
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because you are still in school. you're just finishing the eighth grade, and they just shot up that school in texas. lawmakers in ohio and louisiana are considering measures that would permit teachers and other staff to carry guns in schools despite opposition from educators and experts. however, the idea of having guns in schools is very discomforting to black parents given the consequences of racially biased policing as a result. what do you think about the notion that arming teachers is an effective strategy to mitigate the school shooting issues? >> that it is not effective. i don't think teachers should be armed. what we should be focusing on is banning these assault
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weapons. actually, this is a quote for my grandfather, -- only light can cut out darkness. you cannot put light and violence together. that would just create more violence in this world. what we are trying to do is we are trying to eradicate violence, which is one of the triple evils he talked about. arming teachers with weapons is not the answer. in fact it would cause more violence. it's worsening the problem. >> now, i've watched you grew into a teenager. you have always had a sense of kind of presence about you. as people are watching you around the gun violence issue, this is something coming from inside you. you are not doing this because you feel you have to live up to
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the name of your grandfather or grandmother. i knew your grandmother well. and certainly your father and mother, some of the leading activists in the country right now. i feel talking with you and spending time with you, that this is really you. this is who you are. to tell people why despite the fact you bear that name, you have this personal passion that comes out when you speak and when you write. >> there's always been something in me. it's not like my parents that i had to do this. we do it because we feel like the world needs to be better and even now you don't have to do this work that i've always had an in your calling insight me. it's been something that i had
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since i've been two years old. my parents would tell me on the way to daycare i would always ask him to be concerned about them. i always wondered how could we solve this problem? it's been with me for a very long time and so i think it's an inner calling. i think yes, the legacy and knowing the legacy of my grandparents have helped me continue to do this work, but i would say that it is not the main motivation, it is something, it's almost like there's a mosquito bite and you want to itch that mosquito bite. that's what happened with me and activism. >> you know, i remember your dad calling me one day very excited when he first took you to see your grandfather's statue on the king memorial. you were little girl then.
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he said she looked at me and said, i'm not going to cry, i'm not going to cry like you. you understood the weight of what happened to your grandfather and what it meant so you just have amazed us all year life, named after your aunt yolanda, but carrying on notley as the daughter of andrea, the granddaughter of martin luther king, but making your own path in the same trail of the king family. i think you make us all proud. thank you for being with me and talking personally with me on this show tonight. yolanda rené king. make sure you go home to your parents, i know you booked it yourself. we're hoping to get to talk to congressman, we've been working
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out technical stuff. but after the break, we are still doing buffalo after last month's tragic mass shooting and why it will take more than just a new supermarket to heal the community. first, a news update with richard louis. richard? >> good sunday to you, some of the stories we are watching for you this hour, three people are dead and 11 others injured after a shoot out in philadelphia overnight. authorities saying multiple shootings fired into a crowd in an area known for nightlife. at least two guns were recovered. the shooters remain at large. tropical storm alex rolling over the caribbean. authorities say the storm killed three people, damaging dozens of homes as well. southern florida experience nearly a foot of flooding so far. freedom is mid may's rise experience on the balcony at buckingham palace. capped off the final day of jubilee celebrations for her historic 70-year reign. the 96-year-old skipped events friday and saturday. today thousands greeted the
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york was rocked to its core. three weeks ago when a gunman opened fire at a supermarket. killing ten people and injuring three others. the horrific attack took place in the area's only grocery store, which remains closed. adding to the areas food insecurity. in my capacity as the head of national access, the i traveled to buffalo to meet some of the victims of this tragedy. i spoke with several of my friends and family and members of national action that were left behind. the predominantly black
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community on the east side of buffalo may do with limited resources even before the mass shooting. not only did residents depend on the grocery store for their food, but many people would cash their checks there, by money orders to pay bills, to get prescription drugs. it was the center of the neighborhood, a gathering spot. now some people are having to rely on the benevolence of strangers or family members to travel for their basic needs, or to get a hot meal. many residents do not own cars and use spotty public transportation to get around. as buffalo trends to revealed, there is evidence that this neighborhood needs more than another supermarket. eastside residents fought for years to bring that supermarket to their neighborhood. and bracing for another fight to get another one, the market hopes to reopen that location or open a new one.
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it is still very uncertain about the timetable. that isn't the areas only present need. new york's governor, costly hochul, who grew up and buffalo has included one billion dollars in the 2022 budget to cover portions of the route 33 which goes to the heart of the east side. there are other reconstructions that she's working with community leaders to complete. in the meantime, buffalo sports teams have joined forces to raise over 1 million dollars for the east buffalo community and the victims families according to espn. it's a start but not nearly enough. buffalo needs to rebuild after this horrific shooting. it will not be good enough to simply restore things to the way they were. we need to rise up and address the problems of economic stagnation and racial segregation that i've held back the buffaloes of this country
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specifically for a reinstituted ban on assault weapons and the removal of legal immunity from gunmakers. you and your colleagues -- on several bills aligned with the presidents request. have the votes to pass the legislation into halves, of course, the senate republicans are expected to oppose the most ambitious -- the democrats are holding out hope that a package being negotiated by a small bipartisan group can result in some kind of breakthrough. the white house says that it wants congress to have the latitude to make something happen. it doesn't control, ultimate -- should the president we store to executive orders? >> two quick things. first, thank you for the opportunity to appear and you have a chance to talk with you and your audience. thank you also for your
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leadership in this area. which has been over the years not something that is just come by as a fly by night issue. i appreciate that. i can assure you, people who are struggling against this issue and struggling to find a way appreciate that leadership as well. there was a markup this week in the congress on a new piece of legislation protecting our kids act, a closes the charlotte lee pull, the measures for red flag laws. it deals with storage of weapons and a number of other things that we think are very good. the issue here, i believe, as not going to be the house of representatives, it's going to be the senate as you indicated. this we assume will pass the house. it will get stuck in the senate where everything else seems to get stuck these days. whether it's the george fly's policing act, or half a dozen other issues. when that happens, and it will happen, because in my opinion the majority of the senate --
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it's going to be an issue where the president has to do something by executive order. the problems with executive order they last as long as that presidency last. i think the president biden has no alternative here except to try to do that and to direct the justice department to the best he can to really heighten the prosecutions where there are gun cases. not just the cases involving, as we have seen, the situation in uvalde are in buffalo, but shootings everywhere which are out of control in this country. >> -- all of the impacts of all of this in the coming midterm race. i was struck this weekend by recent polling from the washington post documenting that -- for president biden's continued to cool. 37% of black voters saying he is failing to keep campaign promises compared to 50% who say he is.
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adding to that, 23% say they strongly approve the presidents performance. 27% saying they approve somewhat. is it a problem of messaging? because he has done -- or is it a problem that he needs to do more? because midterm elections are five months away, congressman. does the president have time to reverse this with black voters as he himself has credited them as getting him into the white house? if so, how does he do it? >> i think that it's more pronounced, because he wouldn't -- there were such high expectations. such high rating after years of dealing with donald trump. anything looked better than the. so we were all buoyed as a nation and believing that the president could, would should and wicked will in fact make a change. i think he's done a lot. the question goes back to the
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heart of what you just said. is it messaging or initiative? i think it's both. there's gotta be a greater initiative to push the things, particularly that african americans are very much concerned about, that as i mentioned a moment ago are stuck at the center of the united states and the president has to continually use his pulpit to make the case that we've got to find a way to get those measures out on the floor. george floyd, notwithstanding. there's gotta be a better job, i think of messaging, which is not necessarily the president's messaging that the democrats who know what's going on and understand how difficult it has been to deal with republicans on issues where they do not want to compromise. short of that, we are reminded that halfway through barack obama's term, both terms, there was as we reach the midterms, a slight dip also. people go in with high
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expectations after previous administration of another type, and then there is this dip. i don't think that it is so problematic that it cannot be reversed. i just think that the first thing you have to do is recognize there is an issue. move quickly in messaging and with quickly also initiative to try to turn it around. >> you're right. it was a big dip in the first mid term for the president obama and when he faced. i'm out of time, but i must ask you, what are your expectations? would you expect to hear this thursday night in the first public hearing to be held by the house select committee investigating january 6th? >> i hope that they will share with all of us and the american public, every detail, everything they have been researching. this committee has met forever it seems, and everybody is waiting to find out what are the details. i don't think anything should be sugar coated. the committee said it would
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follow the facts all the way to the end. i believe they've done that. i believe with benny thompson and the others, i think there has to be a full airing, and where there are violations of law, that the justice department can't continue to say that they are looking at it because they've got to find a way to act and so much of that depends on what is released and would've shared and how it's interpreted by the justice department of the united states in terms of the next steps. >> thank you as always, congressman quite easy. right-wing efforts to control election outcomes appear to ramp up ahead of november's ultimate term election and beyond. between video recordings -- corroborating some republicans plan to stop polling -- with loyalists. in a recent analysis by the new york times, finding that in nearly half of the battleground states, gop lawmakers have been
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supported if not facilitating the big lie in some fashion. it appears election integrity advocates have their work cut out for them. and the clock is ticking. joining me now, former u.s. ambassador and democratic senator of illinois, carroll -- now a member of the national counselor on election integrity. ambassador brown, wonderful to have you back disinformation. looking ahead to midterm elections, i want to start with the path of new reports. i'm sure you've seen. first, those video recordings obtained and revealed of this week's political mad -- political magazine detailing a plan to install trained operatives as coworkers in heavily democratic areas, convicting them with conservatives -- district attorneys to block
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vote count. second, a recent analysis by the new york times finding that nearly half of active republican lawmakers in battleground states tried to discredit, if not overturn the results of the 2020 election. now with the clock ticking down in november, what has to happen to protect voters nationally? >> thank you for having me. voting is fundamental. we don't have a democracy if we don't have a right to vote. so protecting that is why the committee on the electoral integrity some port. the fact of the matter is, it's fundamental to democracy that we protect peoples rights to vote and that the votes be properly counted.
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i think the fact that we have any confusion at all around that right now is -- the big lie that's going on out there. i had occasion to actually go to washington right after -- the aftermath of january 6th. i will tell you, it was shocking to me that people we try to -- i'm hoping this committee will come forward with all the information they've gathered to share with the american people up close and personal the reality with one set of facts. facts don't change. you don't change facts. you can change opinions. we have to start with this debate whether consensus about the facts and then agreement about with the facts are. i'm hoping the committee will stay focused in on that and that they share with they have found and i think they have
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found a lot. -- >> it feels like a coordinated effort to suppress black and brown voters by some governments on the american far-right, how is your organization, the national council of election and integrity prepared to push back, and how are republicans in your bipartisan group responding to these threats? >> that's why we have this group, and i'm so pleased, because it is a bipartisan group. republicans and democrats. again, elections are essential to our democracy. it's not a matter of republican or democrat, it's a matter of are you un-american? the fact of the matter is is we need to be vigilant and stop alerts to take away from citizens their rights to be heard and their rights to have their votes counted and properly counted for. that is what we are doing and
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that's what we're focusing on. i think it's important -- they're all officeholders, mostly. we are focusing in on whether the essentials -- issues that we have to protect for the american people? i think the issue comes down to are we going to have a democracy or not? that's up to the voters to decide. american citizens have decided we are going to have a democracy. if we are, how will we go about protecting our invite -- our rights to vote and protecting -- >> the ambassador, we are out of time. let me ask you quickly, the 2020 elections -- actually attended president trump's rally before the january 6th riot. now the republican candidate for governor in pennsylvania, another one who voted in congress not to certify joe biden's victory.
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it's now the party's candidate -- in north carolina. as you prepare for proudest -- poll workers for example, how do you prepare voters from their potential lawmakers as well? >> at the end of the day, it comes down to what the government decides to do. no amount of this information, no amount of ads will take the place of somebody's voting. in terms of the pennsylvania race -- it's up to the voters to decide. are we going to have a democracy or not? if we are committed to the idea of the government being for the people of the people, and we have to do everything we can do to protect democracy. >> and bassett are moseley braun, thank you for being with us. coming up, could this time be different? lawmakers are returning to washington with an opportunity to pass significant gun control
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i want to bring in my political panel to weigh in on today's topics. joining me now is former republican representative david from florida. he is also an msnbc political analyst and former democratic senator, bill jones of alabama. david, this thursday night at 8:00 eastern, the january six committee will hold its first of several public hearings. the panel not only has the challenge of combatting this misinformation spread -- about would happen on that day. but also to giving the american
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people to focus back on what happened. it has been a year and a half since the attack, and people have had many other issues to confront since then. such as the economy and gun violence. what more could the public learn? will it be enough to change any minds, david? >> i think the latter question is what we're going to find out. will it be enough to change minds. i think that's more a question for the american people. it appears the facts will be established will be damning. i think what we will largely learn is that donald trump knew that the likelihood of violence was real. he did nothing to stop it. in fact, you may have even for minted it. we might also learn that there were financial connections between donald trump's bigger political world and the organizers. essentially, tying the violence of january six to the former president. when i'm looking for, read, is how much does the committee paint donald trump as an isolated figure?
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right? we know now mike pence and marc short and mark meadows or distancing themselves. sean hannity, mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy. do the hearings painted on all trump who is really isolated, even from his own people because of the violent insurrection that he knew would occur, because of what he had for minted? >> as we deal with this gun issue, the gunman a suspected of killing the retired wisconsin judge on friday. also had a political hit list which included michigan governor gretchen with -- mitch mcconnell and former wisconsin governor, tony evan. as a former prosecutor, you brought the birmingham bombers to justice. you know quite a bit about the intersection of hate and radical, political violence in this country. what are your thoughts about this case and the moment we seem to be living in right now? >> i gotta tell you, rev, i
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think it's a little frightening. we saw that shooting in wisconsin. just think about all the mass shootings we've seen this year. we had more mass shootings than there are days of the year. we've had school shootings and a culture of violence that we are seeing here and we've got to figure out a way to stop that. i think that congress is looking at some things. i'm not as optimistic about some of this, i'll be honest, but i do think there is one thing that the congress can do, or at least the senate can do on a bipartisan basis, and that is confront the atf director. atf is responsible for the developing of the strategy to deal with gun violence. they're responsible for forcing the gun laws and everybody should agree that we should be enforcing the laws that are on the books now for congress debate. steve was a former u.s. attorney as well. i think that that would send a very strong message about --
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the united states that they're looking at ways to combat gun violence in a very bipartisan way. >> calling for that confirmation coming from a man who walked ketanji brown jackson around -- helped get her confirmed. david, lawmakers are making their way back to capitol hill. this week we should get some indication of whether there is political traction from gun control legislation. senator chris murphy, leading the charge said today they quote, we are closer than ever before, unquote. this comes as survivors of the uvalde and buffalo shootings -- before the household panel on this wednesday. how optimistic are you that the details will lead to a new legislation to deal with guns? >> rev, i think history has taught us all to be cynical on some of these promises. i hope senator murphy is actually right. i doubt we will see much out of
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the federal government. if we do, i think even president biden acknowledged it would likely be incremental. i do think we will see more aggressive action, frankly on the left and the right and state capitals, where you will see the efforts to raise the purchase age, perhaps even assault weapons bans in some states, but you'll also see constitutional carry provision in some of the red states, ultimately setting up a lot of tests for the federal courts and ultimately for the supreme court to make decisions on this issue. i think the big issue though as that votes still are not there, even within the democratic caucus on the hill. for assault weapons ban. 98% of democrats are there. but i think a lot of voters -- are we going to have a ban or not? i don't think anybody would expect that out of the federal government at this point. a new poll from abc news and ipsos shows many americans
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increasingly are concerned about the economy. 61% of americans disapprove of our president biden's cottondale connally. however, friday's job report with strong. u.s. employers and 390,000 jobs and may. the unemployment rate fell steady at 3.6%. most americans say the economy inflation, gas prices will affect how they vote in november. what should democrats be saying to them? >> i think it's a message issue as much as anything. i think what president biden administration did was really save this economy. they came in with a covid package that put some money back in the economy. it came back in and started doing those things to get the economy rolling. we created president biden has created more jobs than any person in history i believe. at least in a very short time. the interesting part about this, the economy is really not doing
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too bad at all. the problem is the inflation. there is this perception. -- [inaudible] they're still traveling because wages of their people are working. we just have increased. it's a very delicate balance. i think it's time for democrats to argue credit for the good things they're at their. there are a lot of them. we will deal with inflation. -- i think president biden and others and democrats the country need to quit moaning about this and talk about the good things that the administration has done. >> all right, we'll have to leave it there. thank you for being with us. up next on our final thoughts, stay with us. nice and quiet.
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