someone like nbc news or "new york times." but it shows up in your feed and it is poisoning our democracy. >> dan, what has been to shocking and willie and i talk about it all of the time, you have this idea of people that are believing the conspiracy theories, and the big lie and the way the media usually portrayed it as it's the great unwashed. it is people living -- living out in the hinder lands that don't are a college -- just but that is complete nonsense. willie and i will talk about, he has people that work with hedge funds that will talk about the italian dude who used a satellite to steal votes. i get the craziest calls from friends i've had my entire life who have advantaged degrees, are brilliant people, what do we make of the majority of these

people who do know it is a lie but they choose to repeat the lie and choose to live in that alternative reality? >> well your exactly right. there is a tendency to think this is somehow based on education or experience or anything else. and it is not whether you went to college or where you went to college that is the most likely predictor, it is whether you consumer right-wing media. you're more likely to bring conspiracy theories about vaccines and elections. that is the problem in this country. is that we have a very well funded, very aggressive operation that is spreading these lies for profit. and political gain. and it is incredibly dangerous. there are a lot of people who know better, particularly a lot of republicans on capitol hill, but there are also a lot who believe it, whose brains have been pickled by this. that is what is so scary. it is not a grift and people are controlling the levers of powner this country. >> it is pretty shocking.

i want to ask you about solutions. dan, because, i've talked to a lot of former republican friends of mind and we sound like democrats now when we're around the table talking. what do we do -- how democrats go we don't deserve -- >> that is not what we sound like. >> we just take it. yes, it is. >> no, it is not. >> but there is a mindset, if you're a republican and somebody spreads lies about you, you go after them, you annihilate, you politically annihilate them. don't sit around and go oh, my god it is just not right. so you worked for a political operation. you worked for a white house, that news how to do it right. what do you tell the people that are running both sides of pennsylvania avenue when i'm alone with them and they say they just lie and what can we do?

>> the problem around this is getting worse every single day. the right-wing media advantage is so much more powerful. >> it is getting bigger. it is flourishing. >> yes. >> mast afta sized. >> that is a perfect metaphor for what we're dealing with. and what we have to do is radically rethink how we communicate. everyone has a role to play here. democrats have to be more aggressive. we have to invest in building up our own mega phone to compete with republicans. that doesn't mean we build our own fox news but we have to invest in progressive outlets. a lot of people in the media have to think about how they deal with people who lie for a living and a social media have a responsibility -- this is where congress has to step in to think about how we regulate these algorithms that are pushing this disinformation nor profit. >> there was hope that some of

this would fade away when donald trump was kicked off twitter. that does not seem to be the case. but let's fall back on your role as white house communications director. this is a white house facing a crises, a lot of them out of their control, global inflation and the war in europe. >> baby food. >> baby food. there are different degrees of blame to be assigned. but polls are down. what sort of messaging should they be doing to get some of these problems, inflation may be here for months particularly if the war continues. >> so it is a couple of things. he put myself in the 99.9% of the people working in the white house and what is a crises in a difficult time. messages has two components, what you say and how to get people to pay attention to what you're saying. they've done a good job on the first part, the rescue plan and

that was popular but the white house has given a prime time speech on guns and he'll be on jimmy kimmel this week. and you have to do two things. talk about the good things that you've done but we also have to and i think the hearings around the big lie and the supreme court decisions we're expecting this month are opportunities to raise the stakes. the math in these elections have very simple. the democrats want to hold or even expand their senate majority, they don't have to convince a single person to voted for trump to switch their vote, they have to get people that voted for joe biden to come out and between a president who is doing work, trying on a hard problem and the republicans who believe the big lie and pushing the big lie and have to plan to deal with inflation, the pandemic and baby formula. >> go ahead. >> one more, because dan said the word that always triggers

me. >> oh, no. >> get ready. >> algorithms. social media companies that are using the algorithms to make money by spreading lies. and we could talk about russia, we could talk about 2016, sheryl sandberg, still on the board of facebook when somebody came and told people on the board that, you know, they've help spread russian disinformation. her reaction was to scream and yell at the whistleblower. you could look at covid plan-demic. facebook allowed it to spread at such a rapid pace that the "new york times" had an article saying it got more hits than taylor swift's new video and more hits than friend's reunion and it seems that the social media companies are behaving in a way that we would never allow any other company to behave and

by that i mean 50% of americans get their news from facebook. would we allow "cbs evening news" with walter cronkite in the 60s when hes would so dominant, to deliberately spread lies through russia or spread health care lies. i think the government would pull their s.e.c. license. why can't we pass basic regulations to make the companies be more transparent an the algorithms that spread the lies from covid to january 6. >> we have to pass them. i think the social media are the tobacco companies of this era. they're exploiting loopholes to deeply damage -- your cancer metaphor, and with little to no regulation. so we have have to do it. the reason that it is hard is it is right now not in the interest of a lot of republicans to do it. if you go to facebook on a daily basis, the post with the most engagement are from dan shapiro,

or ben shapiro, ben -- candice owens and it is mainstream media which should scare us the most that ben shapiro daily wire has more followers than "the new york times" or cnn. that is a problem for democracy. >> so are you saying that the republican agenda is backed up by the freaks on facebook? and so they don't want to do anything about it? >> absolutely. >> just making sure. >> to be very clear, is that facebook is the most powerful messaging platform thor the extreme maga message. that benefits the republicans. they like to cry about facebook and big tech and then they just laugh to the bank when facebook pushes their message including the big lie into people's cerebrals all across this country. >> so it your point, their great with lies, defamation, cruel things, just flying around on social media because in the end it is social media or these tech platforms that fuel their agenda?

>> yeah. >> okay, the new book is "battling the big lie" and it is a battle. dan pheifer, thank you very much and congratulations on the book. see you soon. we want to turn now, it is 8 minutes past the top of the hour to the latest wave of deadly mass shootings across the country. they include an attack in philadelphia with 14 people were shot when a gunman fired into a crowd in the south street entertainment district saturday night. three people were killed. just a few hours later gunfire broke out at a bar in chattanooga, tennessee, two people died of gunshot wounds and a third died when they were hit by a car as they fled the scene. manhunts are underway for the gunman in both attacks. according to the gun violence archive, mass shootings are happening this weekend in arizona, georgia, michigan, nebraska, new york, south carolina, and virginia. in all, at least 17 people died and nearly 70 were injured.

there have been at least 246 mass shootings in the u.s. so far this year all of this comes nearly two weeks after the shooting at the elementary school in uvalde, texas. this morning we're hearing from a man who worked at a funeral home across the street from the school. and he saw the gunman as he arrived. >> we locked eyes and he gave me this vibe and i was thinking he was dazed out and i said are you all right and do you need help and he looked away from me inside of his truck and i see him grabbing something from his truck and i was still asking are you okay, at that moment he looks right back at me with that evil look and i see this rifle. >> my god. we're also seeing some evidence the attack in uvalde may represent a breaking point even

for some long time conservative texans. on sunday, major republican donors including supporters of governor greg abbott signed an open letter caller for congress to act on gun reform. letter which ran as a full page ad in the "dallas morning news" was signed by more than 250 gun enthusiasts. and this morning actor matthew mcconaughey who was born in uvalde, wrote an op-ed entitled "it is time to act on gun responsibility." and it reads in part, quote, there is a difference between control and responsibility. the first is a mandate that could infringe on our right. the second is a duty that will preserve it. there is no constitutional barrier to gun responsibility. keeping firearms out the hands of dangerous people is not only the responsible thing to do, it is best way to protect the

second amendment, we can do both. let's bring in nbc news national security analyst clint watts. we usually have you at the big board but here today to talk. there are so many guns out there that i don't know what reform could legitimately actually stop the problem in its tracks right now. >> yeah, mika, it is completely out of control. six years ago, i would have been here talking to you about an attack in brussels or paris and it would have been an anomaly because it is impossible to get asaul rifles. they have to sneak them into the country to have a massive attack. we have a brussels or paris every day in this country in terms of scale. because of access to weapons. it is frequency, yes, but it is also about severity. severity about the weapons. if you look across any other country in europe, why do we not have this in the u.k., yes, they have attacks. there are knives. you cannot kill hundreds of people without these weapons. i think the other part is whether you're a criminal.

you're angry at your workplace, your angry at a former spouse or a former judge. >> or at a doctor in tulsa. >> or election workers. why are we protecting the rights of those individuals to buy a semi-automatic weapon when they are mentally unstable or consider vim motive or are trying to overthrow the country. and it is ridiculous. and basic safety that we do in the military, when i was assigned my m-16, hi to carry it unloaded for four, five, six weeks, i couldn't have rounds. i have to have training and be qualified and then certified to even carry it. we don't have them do training. we don't have them license it or do any background checks but we need people to have an ar-15 instantly but they can't vote until their 21. >> he walked out on on his birthday with the first weapon. and joe, i know you want to go to clin, this is part of the mountain of questions and anger

that royaling in uvalde which really is so sad, because, yes, there were clearly even the police chief said they made a bad call, really bad one. and there are a lot of cops who are being given a bad name, being called things or the school process that didn't work or the door that didn't lock and people pointing at each other, but those are all -- they're not really the source of the problem. the main problem is the fact that authorities and schools are completely unmatched to deal with the weapons that are out there. >> yeah, early on, in my torts class, my first year of law school, you would have the but-for question. if you're looking at a car accident, but for the driver a. or but for -- remove them from the scene and is there still an accident.

and if there is not an accident then you could trace the negligence there. we go from one mass shooting to another mass shooting. there is always a different excuse for every mass shooting. but clint, what separates us from the united kingdom, what separates us from france, what separates us from so much other countries, it is, again, the fact that of course we have hundreds of millions of guns out there but there is also the fact that, you know, we have people running around and it is happened over the past 30 years. it is like this whole idea, there is this hyper individualism. this hyper freedom, where people feel like you can't tell me to do anything any more. you can't tell me to wear a mask until the middle of a global pandemic, you can't tell me that i can't have a gun that is designed for war.

and it seemed everybody is talking about their rights. nobody is talking about their responsibilities. matthew mcconaughey's op-ed will some great insights there. being sensible and rational and about gun safety does not violate any constitutional right. >> that is right, joe. and just think of the basics that we do for drivers. we would not want 16-year-olds, 17, 18-year-olds go out without a license. we don't want them going out without training and no one goes out without insurance. if we want to take this out of the state's hands and don't want the government controlling guns, what could we do. think about gun owner insurance. you could screen people to see should they have a weapon or not. and have they had training or not. and they have would have a premium. there are solutions to use to try to restrict access for

people who have criminal records, who have mental health issues or are clearly not well trained enough. i personally went to a range a few years ago and i have used guns for a very long time, i have a lot of experience on it. watched a man pull out a handgun and put in a round, he never used it before and fired it straight in the ceiling right next to me. and this was at a supervised range. so imagine when we'll take any 18-year-old and within minutes issue them an assault rifle which they could use on any target and this is a period where we see white supremacy, misogynist terrorism where we see active shooters every day and it is the okay corral every saturday night as if it is the 1860s. it makes no sense. >> it is crazy. >> it really is. >> and i know they would go for nearly all of these measures at this point. >> that is the thing, clint. you've been around guns. you've gone to gun ranges.

i've been around guns. i've gone to gun ranges. i've talked to gun shop owners through the years, i've talked to nra members through the years, i talked to people that went out hunting with their fathers when they were five years old, it was just sort of a rite of passage. and none of these people that i talk to, that i grew up, you know, in baptist churches across the deep south go oh, yeah, people need ar-15s. this is what i want people who are watching, who maybe didn't grow up in the first baptist church of meridian, mississippi or sham by, florida or calvary chapel in tuscaloosa, alabama. i want people to understand that people who are were around guns that have been around them their whole life, they don't want crackpots to be able to go into a gun store when they're 18

years old and get a weapon of war. they don't want somebody who is pissed off a doctor to be able to walk in and get a gun and go -- i mean, it is -- you told the story about being at the gun range. i mean, people at gun range, like they're all about gun safety. and that is what -- that is why i think gets lost sometimes and in the coverage, that, yeah, most gun owners want universal background checks, most gun owners look at ar-15s and are like, what, why do you -- why can an 18-year-old walk in and get that but can't get a beer. talk about that side of the story, that shows again the overwhelming majority of gun owners want gun safety. >> that is absolutely right, joe. ar-15s. we want that to make sure that people have ar-15s, but things

like high-capacity magazines. there have been so many attacks. dayton, ohio, a young man fired several dozen rounds in a few second and these are weapons are war and they are going to war on the public. and the other part that is strange is we put no responsibility on the people that buy these weapons to then have to be responsible like matthew mcconaughey said, financially for these things f. someone drove a car into a crowd or created an accident on a highway, they're financially held liable for all of the damage that they've done. if they have an assault rifle what, is the damage for that? what is the damage to the families? it would be, if you want to use an ar training, you need to have a license or if you're causing mass casualties, if you're increasing the cost of law enforcement to essentially put a s.w.a.t. team at every school in

america, then someone needs to pay for that and it shouldn't be the taxpayers who are already vulnerable at the other end of that rifle. they're looking down the barrel of those rifles and paying the cost. >> yeah. >> not just with their lives but with their taxes to create this entire system which lets them be vulnerable. >> and your required to do training so why not. on capitol hill there are new hopes that the attack in uvalde, could spark gun reform. on sunday senator chris murphy, one of the lead negotiators said the talks are serious and there are more republicans at the table discussing gun laws than at any time since the attack at sandy hook ten years ago. and among the issues they're discussing, amending red flag laws, strengthening background checks and adding money for mental health and school safety. which should have always been there. however, senator murphy said that the talks do not address president biden's call for a ban on assault weapons. the potential for raising the age limit for buying assault weapons from 18 to 21 also does

not appear to be part of senate negotiations. why? why? how is that not basic. honestly, if you're against raising the age limit, and you're in congress or in the senate, you're useless. you're literally should just leave washington. you are useless. let's bring in white house reporter for politico and "morning joe" senior contributor eugene daniels. why would anyone be against raising the age limit to buy an assault weapon if you can't buy a beer? >>, good morning, mika. that is the question that people -- folks in the white house have, folks, democrats especially who are in these negotiations have. because you have a country where, and one of the answers is you have a country why guns and the culture of guns are intensic in the republican party. they are a huge part of people calling themselves republican. it used to be about being able

to go hunting or protect yourself in your home. but then now it is about being after to have a gun and use it for whatever you want and that is what is the democrats and the republicans on capitol hill are up against. and at this point, they feel really confident, actually the question mark because i'm a little bit more cynical. they feel these are more serious talks than ever before. this white house continues to say they feel encouraged by those conversations. they were kind of hoping to have some something done by the end of week. it doesn't look like that is going to happen. and they are of course missing president biden's wish list that he has. all of those things from banning assault rifles to as you said raising the age to buy guns in this country. but they are hoping and senator chris murphy has said this, he is -- is hope field goal you get something, that will show republican colleagues that the world is not going to end or the

walls will not crumble when do something on this issue. when you look at polling, republicans and democrats and people who hate guns, agree on a lot of these things. we're talking the 80s and 70s percentile, that is not something that you see in this country. if you get something across the finish line, this month possibly, they will be able to continue to have these conversations. and i will say one of the things that every time there is a conversation about gun safety in this country and legislation around that. they are worried about timing. they are worried that we have to hurry up because there is -- people will stop paying attention. however, when you look at that right now, since uvalde, there have been multiple shootings, mass shootings in this country so americans still have this on top of mind. the senate and the house does and more importantly the white house does as well. >> jonathan lemire really quick. >> after buffalo and texas we talked about the contagion effect, is that what we're seeing right now by the

widespread shootings every day or is it america in 2022. >> i think as mix of both. in terms of the lone shooter, i think that is an effective contagion. once you see this media terrorism, once you see one attack you see an unraveling effect where it cascades and triggers other people and this is a tipping point, i'm worried about judges, are there any other people in america that are worried about judges, will they try to replicate it. and it is 2022 and people are around each other for the first time after a long break and you're starting to see the confluence of events and this is the reason we saw a slowdown is because we were all at our house and we didn't have conflict on south street in philly. >> they're begging for just something to happen on gun reform after 17 babies and two teachers were gunned down, mowed down, murdered.

up next, clint will head over to the big board for the latest on the war in ukraine. including a visit by president zelenskyy to the front lines. also ahead, steve bannon and why he's still a huge threat to democracy. the author of an incredible new profile will join us. and as we go to break, here is ronald reagan in 1991 who came out in favor of the brady bill. a law that established federal background checks for firearm purchases and created a five-day waiting period to give law enforcement time to run these checks. >> surprise, ronald reagan endorsed a federal gun control bill. >> he looked and sounded like the ronald reagan of old but what he said was far from it. this darling of the gun lobby endorsing a gun control bill. >> and i'm going to say it in clear, unmistakable language. i support the brady bill and i urge the congress to enact it. .

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russian forces have launched new attacks on the city of kyiv. local media said at least five missiles were fired at the city on sunday, pounding railway facilities an other infrastructure. the ministry of defense claimed it was targeting a group ever tanks sent by european countries. the attacks were the first on kyiv and more than a month. clint watts has made it back over to the big board. we heard last week of russians, grinding it out, in the donbas region and making gains. and then last 24 hours or so, we heard of the ukrainians with some successful counter offenses. tell us what is happening and this war of attrition. >> joe, we've moved into the tug-of-war phase, in particularly in the east. beyond those missile strikes in kyiv, all of the action is essentially in this sector right here. what do you have is around

kharkiv, what the ukrainians have been able to do is push out this front here. they've been able to enlarge it to keep artillery from landing there and the russians are trying to protect this line from bell go rod down to izyum. but what is clear is the ukrainians have created a front line that they're able to holdover time. and the russians have abandoned it because they're going after this area here. when you zoom in, this is the battle we're talking about today. over the last few days russia made some advances into severo donetsk and the ukrainians have taken over large parts of the cube. in urban environments it is hugely advantage to those who know how to operate in the city and every time they advance they can't hold the rear area. secondly, you're starting to see pop-ups of partisan warfare, ukrainians are in the rear

areas, there are pockets here and down in the south where now the russians have to advance, gain ground, take over donbas and then hold and be an army of occupation, very difficult to do both. what the russians would like to do is get out here to slovansk. and what frustrated them is those rivers. a couple of weeks ago we talked about the fail return river crossing. they lost 50, 60, 70 vehicles there. and their putting in combat power and what we're hearing about the ukrainians is their also suffering losses. this is massive artillery bombardment, here in luhansk, if coy redraw it, this region here, that is the end of luhansk province. that is a success for putin. i don't know what success is when you destroy everything in your wake. to take over donbas, they have to move further to the left and

that is a big question as we look into summer when sanctions take over, the russians are having trouble getting troops back out here and ukrainians start ref -- receiving weapons, will there be a very small advance on the ground and will russia be able to sustain that. that is the big open question i think for summer. >> and clint, you're so right. because we talk about success, russian success. we're looking at this map right now, i mean the russians haven't achieved to take over large swaths of land in ukraine. i keep thinking about how we russiaed into baghdad and that was just the beginning of our problems. they haven't even accomplished the first part. and it is the occupation that is so much more difficult. and you're -- you're telling us that now russia has to worry about the areas that it has been successful in, those few areas because you're starting to see

resistance popping up. talk about how this may thwart his plans regardless of how he does on the battlefield even in this tough grinded out war. >> they're clearly starting to take man power and equipment loss and start running out of missiles. missiles that they're using now, not precision guided. definitely taking that into effect. and even the russians are trying to crowd fund things like uavs because they have a loss of supplies and in terms of man power, they don't want to declare a all out war, they call it a especially operation when limits the ability of the russian military to put anything into the battle, particularly con crypts. you're having mass casualties, russians are resupplying in this area putting a lot of man power and equipment in it but bringing up reserve tanks now, starting to bring in things that were in warehouses here in russia, they're bringing them into the fight. and down to the south, while

they've found some success, they did create this land bridge to mariupol, they are also facing counter attacks here from the ukrainians, who are trying to push them back across this river here. and overtake parts of what we were called kherson, it is this area down in here. if they can't hold that, the ukrainians are in a good position, i think the bigger issue, the last thing i would note is the black sea. that blockade in the black sea is a major strategic issue for ukraine moving forward and something we'll be looking at closely as the summer wanes and coming into fall. >> clint watts, thank you very much. mika, what do we have coming up. >> that was by the way, video of volodymyr zelenskyy on the front lines meeting with his fighters. thanks very much, clint. coming up, elon musk making headlines once again. andrew ross sorkin will be here to discuss. plus last week was a good week for lebron james and a bad week

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welcome back to "morning joe." it is 6:40 out west. mika, really quickly, something caught my eye in "the new york times" editorial page. charles blow, career advice from a career in the trenches. and i just want to run through these really quick. they're great. for -- he said 30 years ago he rived at the times as an intern. people ask me for career advice. well here it is. and i'll just read you the headlines here. try to be the best at what you do. the money will take care of itself. in business, persistence pays off. he talked about getting an internship and not taking no for an answer. others may have more advantages than you but no one has more hours in the day than you, no one can out-work you unless you

let it happen. and he said in his first job he made sure that his boss would never see him come or go. that he would be there around the clock. and it is so funny, i always -- when i got elected at a young age and how do you do it. you just wake up earlier than everybody else, go to sleep later than everybody else and work harder between those two points. nothing to it. and it is the truth. just hard work. and then he said find your work place tribe. and then he said everyone you work with are a reference. it is a great thing to remember. everybody around you. and then he goes, no one cares about your disadvantages, over-come them. and he said i didn't go to an he'llet boarding school or ivy league college but many of the people i worked with did and many of them i would compete with and did. and then he said managers must be managed. and i love this one too.

and he said, don't go into your job thinking what do i want out of this. if you want -- how is a manager going to be judge and when you figure out, what the managers goals are, figure out how you move your area toward those goals. it is like what i say in negotiations, we've talked about this an awful lot, when i'm negotiating, i don't think about what i want. i think about what does my boss want. what do they need. how could i help give them what they need and they could give me what i need. it is the same thing that he said. manage the manager. so charles blow. >> that is great. >> career advice from a career in the trenches. a must read especially for our young viewers. >> when i was starting out at cbs, byron pits said be the first one in and last one to leave and that is what i did and we ended up to be the first to

respond to 9/11 from cbs. and from then on, that advice has paid off and i think one other unpopular thing is if you have to go to work to do all of those things. you have to actually be in the office and i'm very sorry to say. so now to someone who follows those piece of advice, co-anchor of squawk box, andrew ross sorkin. it seems like elon musk is in the news every day. what is the latest? >> well the latest is that -- and i don't know if it is him actually, but president biden has clearly decided to start a fight with elon musk. we've seen this now playing out for over a year. but it manifested itself on friday after elon musk said that he had a super bad feeling about the economy. the president was asked about that. and then president biden sort of threw a zinger at him and said well good luck to him, i hope he's fine on the moon kind of

thing. but there is a question. it is a political question. and the political calculus that biden has taken, which is he's taking on this guy, elon musk, like him or not, he has a huge following, close to 100 million followers. who used to be his supporter. he voted for president biden. he used to be a president biden supporter. and he's now turned quite publicly and vocally against this administration. and they both technically should be on the same sides in terms of thinking about innovation, climate, the entire tesla brand is built around issues that they both agree on. and yet, and you could call elon musk petulant, a petulant child if you want, but he's one of the people that when you go at him, he comes after you the other way. this started with unions. that is why the president moved against him, ignore him for a long time. tesla does not support unions.

but nonetheless, it is created a kind of crazy thing. seems like a missed -- a political missed opportunity because he's the kind of guy that i thought would have been doing photo opportunities with biden in front of spacex with ray bans on. >> not happening. let me ask you about the breaking news with musk this morning. it certainly looks like he's trying to get out of the twitter deal. his lawyers sending documents -- >> yes. >> and this is breaking news. basically saying, hey, there are a lot of bots, you're not being forthcoming about this. this sure sounds like a guy that wants to get out of a deal. >> so he either wants to get out of the deal or pay a lot less. it is almost impossible for him to get out of this deal. and legally, the way that the deal is structured, he has what is called a specific performance requirement, as in buying the company, at the agreed upon price. he would have to prove that the

company illegally and fraudulently defrauded him. i think that is a hard argument to make in part because elon musk said one of the reasons that he was buying twitter was to get rid of all of the bots. so you he knew there was a bot problem. he's going to go to twitter and say i could either do this deal at a lower price, or we could go to court and do this for 18 months and maybe you like that better. and i think depending on what the price is, the board may say, we'll take it. >> all right. andrew ross sorkin, thank you very much for your insight. we really appreciate it. time now for brand up, brand down with donnie deutsche and you're back and starting with corporate bullying? >> this is depressing and scary at the same time. let's go to our friend ron desantis. it is documented when disney spoke up about don't say gay, he

went after them. >> but how is this brand up? >> no, this is brand down. huge brand down. talk about the tampa bay rays. that is what they tweeted out after the horrible shooting. the raies are mourning the lives of -- and we all know if nothing changes, nothing changes. based on that tweet, they were supposed to get a 39 million practice facility in the budget, his $109 million florida budget, he took it out at the last minute. bases on that tweet. there is nothing in there that is even overtly political. there is a fascist dictator in florida right now. >> is it working? >> i think it is going to backfire. >> brand up. lebron james. >> yeah. i sometimes, as much criticism as he gets, i think he's in the news is because he's the first active nba player to be a billionaire. michael jordan and kobe became billions after they played. and he has $300 million in

salary but he's spotless as a family man and a father and a husband other than when he said i'm talking my talents to south beach, no one has been as speck and span clean as lebron james, let's give him some kudos. >> next one? >> sheryl sandberg. >> she's leaving, yeah, leaving with $1.7 billion that she cashed out in stock. 75%. and she was hired to be the grown-up in the room. she was the corporate person. she was the one, to me, she deserves as many if not more responsible than zuckerberg for the hatemonger, and the conspiracy theories and disinformation. that is on her watch and shes had i'm empowering women and all of this, if you were empowering women, you would be worried about that. >> i'm going to leave that there because i've said my part. but brand down. this is historical. it is true. america's attention span.

>> this is the -- the gun problem right here. that right after uvalde, news whip and axios did a survey and there were 8 million interactions based on news articles on uvalde three days later and four days later it was down to does stay in the leave but out of the news it leaves the consciences. hopefully the parade doesn't move on as much. >> brand up fexting. >> biden and his wife. >> national tv. >> get in a fight. they fight by texting because the secret service can't hear you. >> i've done that. >> joe? >> do we fext? >> well, we heard sometime back -- who was it that i showed you an article?

i think it was -- nicole kidman. >> uh-huh. >> said that she never -- >> we stopped. >> never, ever fights over -- i stopped? >> we stopped. >> it was -- it's brilliant. don't -- if there's a dispute to resolve -- >> face to face. >> pick up the phone or face to face. fighting over texts? >> do not fext. >> no. that is a nonstarter. key urban and nicole kidman. they don't do that. nothing good comes of that. does it shlg sweetie? >> no. >> do not fext. >> okay. thank you very much. way over. there's more to come when you're here. she is a showman and a

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the january 6 committee will hold the first prime time hearing. among those caught up in the investigation, former trump aye steve bannon who helped fuel conspiracy theories before the insurrection and awaiting trial for refusing the committee subpoena. writer jennifer senior joins us now with a new profile of steve bannon. thank you very much for coming in. >> it's a fantastic profile and reading it this morning. steve bannon fallen in and out of former president trump's favor. >> yeah. >> didn't speak for a while. tell us where bannon is now and what sort of role does he play

with the maga movement? >> when i started doing the research on this it was january-ish. i had heard from source that is he had not spoken to the president in like a year. i think they follow each other like two cats circling each other. you can make the case he is responsible for marshalling a lot of the energy behind january 6. his podcast which he says is a tv show but it's on like channel 240 of pluto tv. it is very -- it's got a very activist base and constantly having citizen activists on the show saying how can we get to you. he's really trying to work hard to get everybody involved in the

super structure and infrastructure of the republican party. >> you described how he throws drill sergeant type use your agency. >> what does that mean? >> shoulder to the wheel. force multiplier. >> you say from the ground up. >> meaning that if people get involved at the precinct level of politics election deniers will be in control of the election apparatuses. secretaries of state. mark finchum like that in arizona. start low and end high. he was in the navy. like navy speak. >> joe? >> how do you balance when you're writing about steve bannon what you talk about the dangers but the fact he wants as you a to write this article and

say he's dangerous for democracy -- >> loving it. >> sure. >> he loves this. how do you balance that? >> it's a great question. exposure doesn't equal an endorsement. that's journalism. we would be foolish not to pay attention to him. he's going to do what he's going to do whether we watch or not and better to know what he's up to. if we don't pay attention to him it is not like he's not there enflaming people and sowing i think an anti-democratic movement. sort of laying dynamite beneath the floor boards of american democracy. do you want to know or cover your eyes? it is our choice. right? >> all right. really appreciate your coming in. >> thank you. >> it is on steve bannon and

pretty chilling. joe, as we close today d-day. your thoughts? >> i would say that's a great way to put it. and people wonder with people like bannon does throwing the attention to him make them actually more powerful and stronger? you have to report on it. a couple things happened today. three things to talk about. the first thing is d-day. june 6, 1944. ronald reagan spoke when he went there in the 40th anniversary using the peg any noonan's words. these are the boys of pointe du hoc. these are the men who took the cliffs. these are the heroes. we are forever indebted to the boys, the men, the heroes.

bobby kennedy passed away june 6, 1968. two years earlier he said few will have the greatness to bend history but each of us can to change a small portion of the events. remembering bobby kennedy today. something else happened today. what was that? >> my baby girl was born 24 years ago today. for me everything. so happy birthday, carly. thank you. see i don't tomorrow morning 6:00 a.m. eastern. four hours. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage right now. >> happy birthday, carly! >> good morning. 10:00 a.m. eastern. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin another week with another string of deadly mass shoots. as the epidemic continues across