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reports" in washington. at the start of a critical week on gun safety legislation after a surge of mass shootings across the nation this very weekend. on the weekend alone, at least 12 people were killed in 13 separate mass shootings while funerals continued in uvalde, texas, amid investigations into the failed police response. this was the scene in philadelphia city center in south philadelphia, hundreds fleeing from a string of gunshots from an incident leaving 11 injured and three dead. here in washington, senators from both parties say they will not consider an assault weapon ban, but they're cautiously optimistic about more modest proposals that have eluded them since the sandy hook tragedy a decade ago. >> i've never been part of negotiations as serious as these. there are more republicans at the table talking about changing
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gun laws and investing in mental health at any time since sandy hook. can we get there by the end of next week? i don't know. on the war in ukraine, british intelligence officials say russian air strikes in kyiv over the weekend were focused on critical railways for supplying ukraine's capital. the fighting is intensifying in the east as vladimir putin warns of new strikes in response to the u.s. providing ukraine with longer range weapons systems. we're looking forward to what promise to be bombshell hearings before the january 6th committee this week with the promise of new witness testimony and previously unseen material. we begin with that spike in gun violence.
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join here we with me is garrett haake. the gun violence in philadelphia over the weekend just one example of the chaos sparking fear in so many communities. >> reporter: in a terrifying example at that, there have been more mass shootings so far this year than the number of days that have passed in 2022, a string of those happening over the past couple of days from a strip mall in phoenix to a graduation party in south carolina, outside of a nightclub in chattanooga, tennessee, and of course along one of the most iconic streets here in philadelphia, south street, 14 people shot, three of those people have died according to police. one thing complicating the
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investigation is the sheer number of people out and about on saturday night. this is a very popular street, a magnet for not only locals but tourists. there were hundreds of people on this street when bullets started flying. police believe it all started between an argument between two men. it was a physical altercation they say had escalated and eventually became a shootout. it's not clear how many shooters were involved here. they say they believe that five guns were utilized. we know that one of the people, according to police, was involved in the initial fight, he has died. the other person, police say an officer actually fired at that, quote, active shooter. they believe that is what resulted in him dropping his handgun and taking off on foot. still an active search, a massive manhunt for what could be multiple shooters on the run. >> there's a lot happening down
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in uvalde today. before you do that, i want to read an excerpt from an op-ed in the austin american statesman by uvalde native actor matthew mcconaughey. he writes, all gun purchases should require a background check. unless you're in the military, you should be 21 to purchase an assault rifle. red flag laws should be the law of the land. we neat to institute a national waiting period for assault rifles. i'm not under the illusion that these policies will solve all of our problems, but they are worth it. there's a texan, native of uvalde, extraordinarily popular, but none of the politicians at the state level seem to be responding, at least among republicans. >> what matthew mcconaughey said
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is exactly what members of the community are telling me. it sounds like the same thing i've been hearing. they want these same changes, the background checks. a lot of them keep bringing up the age going from 18 possibly to 21 when it comes to someone being allowed to buy one of these rifles. we've been getting more information regarding the details of what happened here. we talked to a funeral worker who saw the shooter crash his truck. along with his colleague, they ran outside to try to offer their help. when they spoke to the shooter, they said he looked at them, didn't respond, pulled out the weapon and shot at them. after they were able to escape, he tells us what happened when he called his wife. >> the gunman had already entered the school. and the cops start showing up. my wife gets there and she gave me my gun. i start walking towards the
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school, passing on the side of the funeral home. the cops show up. they tell me, hey, what are you doing? i'm going to go in there and try to stop him. he told me you stay the [ bleep ] back. i told him he's already inside the school. he said stay back and shut the [ bleep ] up. my intention was to stop them. i feel guilty now because i couldn't stop him. >> reporter: another account of someone who said he was trying to do something, he had his weapon and tried to go in, but said he was stopped by officers who told him to go back inside the funeral home. i asked him if he saw school police chief pete arredondo who we've been told was inside that funeral home when he ordered the officers to stay back, but he said he was not able to see him
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or identify any of the officers that were there. he was asked to go to a side of the funeral home with his coworkers and had to wait. >> that's extraordinary. the funeral home is across the street from the school. that's why they were there. we previously had seen last week an interview with a man who was in the barbershop nearby. he and the barber both got their guns. he has a wife who's a teacher and a child in the school in another wing, so he went and got them out. the citizens responded and they were pushed back as well. it's just amazing. thank you. i want to talk to garrett here about what can be done. we heard from chris murphy who's taken the lead on this. you were down there last week. we went to the nra convention. you covered the incident. now seeing chris murphy who was so passionate on the floor, of course from connecticut, one of
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the sandy hook leaders trying to get something done for ten years. >> he's long had a personal interest. now he has potentially a partner to negotiate with in john cornyn. they have tried and failed on this issue, specifically on background checks. now cornyn has the blessing of mitch mcconnell to engage in negotiations. the trick is to get ten republicans. murphy and the democrats are going to take what they can get on guns, but there are not ten republicans in this negotiating group. to get everybody republican in this group to be on board with the framework and shop that to the rest of the republican conference to pick up a couple more votes is going to be very challenging and sensitive in how this gets handled this week. it's going to be extremely challenging for negotiators here. >> i want to point out that john cornyn is from texas.
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>> that's right. >> and a former judge and so close to mitch mcconnell. that's a good negotiating partner because he understands his caucus very well. >> cornyn is dead in the middle of the republican conference. he's not somebody who's on a sort of super trump fringe. he's not somebody who engages with democrats on a lot of issues like susan collins. if you get cornyn, you can potentially get a big chunk of republicans. cornyn is also close to greg abbott down in texas and he's close to some of the state level republicans down there who don't necessarily want to see any legislation that could have anything that could be perceived as restrictions around guns. he's in a very difficult position politically as well. >> they have to worry about the progressives in the house wanting more. thank you so much.
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overnight russia bombed kyiv for the first time in more than a month as great britain announced it is sending ukraine artillery that can hit targets up to 50 miles away. the u.s. also sent long range artillery last week despite putin warning against the move. the battle in the east is intensifying. a ukrainian soldier says russia is changing its tactics.
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>> i think they reevaluated their capabilities. they brought much more artillery, more rockets, more soldiers. it looks like their soldiers are never ending. we keep wiping them away and they bring more. you know, it's like a dragon. you slash his head and three more grows. >> joining me from eastern ukraine richard engel. how much ground is russia gaining in the east? and also comment on the attacks against kyiv. >> reporter: so russia is slowly capturing territory here in the east, but it is going quite slowly. russian forces are still trying to take the city of severodonetsk. there is a back and forth battle there. it's hard to know how much of the city has fallen to the russians and how much has been recaptured by the crohn's on any
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given day. there is street to street fighting there. the russians are making advances, but it is very slow going. in some of the surrounding villages and towns, they have made more advances. they are now approaching several other cities in donetsk. they are making advances, but they are not making dramatic increases. but the momentum does seem to be on the russian side. what was the other question, andrea? >> about kyiv. the attacks on kyiv. kyiv was considered a relatively safe space for the last month or so. >> reporter: if you listen to what vladimir putin says, he says this was an attack targeting logistics, that this
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was a deliberate attack that was fired from an air launched missile, according to russian officials, that targeted munitions, include tanks. but ukrainian officials believe it was far more symbolic, that this was an attempt by russia, by vladimir putin to back up his threats. over the last 24 hours, putin spoke to russian television and he said that if the west, particularly the united states, sends in more advanced weapons than it is sending in now with even longer ranges, then russia would start to hit new areas, areas that have not been struck before. in coordination with his statements, shortly after he made these statements on russian television, then russia carried out this attack on kyiv for the first time in about a month. according to ukrainian officials, it seems this was a message, that vice president is telling the world what you're
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sending is a threat and do not send anything more powerful, otherwise russia will expand the war, and to prove that point, we're going to hit a rail link in kyiv just to make sure everyone knows we're serious about it. >> pretty ominous. thank you very much, richard engel. joining us, former ambassador to russia, michael mc emanuel macron, france's president, indicating there have to be some negotiations. what is your take on this? is there a concern that the west might begin to fracture a bit in standing up with ukraine? >> well, i agree abstractly with
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president macron that there should be negotiations. i know for a fact that president zelenskyy would welcome negotiations. there's just one problem with saying there should be negotiations. vladimir putin doesn't agree. as long as his forces are making progress, as you just were talking about with richard, he's not going to negotiate. he's going to keep taking territory. i think it's naive to say we shouldn't humiliate him because we want him to sit down at the table. he'll only sit down at the table when his military can no longer advance, when there's a stalemate on the battlefield. it's about power, it's not about putin's feelings. >> let me bring in retired four star general barry mccaffrey. with the brits sending m-270s and us sending longer range artillery, can that even the battlefield for ukraine?
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>> no. the ambassador is correct. this is all about power. this is an incredible situation in which nato, the european union, and the u.s. government, we're negotiating with ourselves. we're taking into account our own fears. we're sending four launchers to ukraine. the poles are buying over 500. the russians have a massive artillery force, a huge preponderance of air power, they're smashing ukrainian cities, causing unacceptable casualties to ukraine's armed forces. meanwhile macron and the german chancellor are waffling on the whole thing. our recipe for continuing war in europe is have a cease fire with russia holding 25% of ukraine with the ukrainian economy down
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50% with no access to the sea to export grain and with putin just waiting for the next phase, very strained situation. >> and ambassador, putin is starting to do something truly, truly evil, which is the blockade of the black sea has stopped ukraine from shipping all of its tonnage of its harvest, its grain. africa, egypt relying so heavily on their grain, sub-saharan africa as well. according to the "new york times" reporting today, russia is stealing ukrainian grain and shipping it to africa to sell it as though they are the provider of food to africa.
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it's just astounding. >> it's astounding, but it's predictable. i think it underscores why it's going to be so difficult just to convince putin to do the right thing by not humiliating him. i would like president macron to spend more time on the crisis you just described. that would be a great use of his time and the united nations to see if negotiations could be worked just to solve that small problem compared to the bigger problem of what to do inside ukraine regarding the war. >> i don't know if you saw what the justice department has seized two planes belonging to russian oligarch abramovich. i don't know if that has any impact. it doesn't seem like putin cares what happens to the oligarchs. >> he certainly doesn't care about the oligarchs who live
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abroad. we think about the oligarchs as being american business people close to the president and because their fortunes are being hurt by the war, they're lobbying him to stop this war. in fact, he doesn't care about their fortunes, two, they don't have any influence over him. it's good that we seized these airplanes. i hope the proceeds eventually go to the ukrainians. putin will end the war when his forces on the battlefield can no longer advance. >> general mccaffrey, today is june 6th, and i have been at every ten-year anniversary since 1984 and there three years ago for the 75th. it's a day that is incredibly meaningful, powerful and emotional to a lot of americans, a lot of people around the world
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certainly in europe. i want your thoughts on that military engagement and what it meant to the world. >> there's always been a sense among americans that history was inevitable and that of course we would end up defeating germany and of course naziism would be expunged, but none of this was inevitable. this largest invasion in history, massive casualties both on the beach and in the deep dropped airborne forces, it was in the balance. had we been repulsed at the normandy invasion, who knows how this war would have turned out. would we have given up for two years and the germans could have concentrated on the russians who had fought so bravely alone for so many years? we owe a lot to that group.
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>> and for the men and women who i met three years ago and the decades before that and those who were there just today, kerry sanders was reporting on, just our eternal gratitude. and to tom brokaw for bringing it home to so many americans. >> exactly. >> thank you very much. and gas and the blame game. e
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amy stoddard and former republican national committee chairman michael steel. we're seeing prices at $120 a barrel. it affects costs of everything from food to clothing. sanctions on russian oil limiting the global supply. and no matter what the president has done so far to try to hold it down, it's a global problem. so releasing all that oil from the petroleum reserves and a lot of other things don't seem to be having an impact. >> no. i mean, oil is a global commodity. it increases in price when global tensions increase. i think there's not a ton that this white house can do. you mentioned some things they can do around the edges around the strategic petroleum reserve, talking about price gouging. i think there's not a lot they can do and they're going to have
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to play this hand out. not just do we see gas prices spiking now, but you've got more families driving on vacation, shipping goods is getting more expensive, driving up other parts of inflation. again, this is a bad hand they're simply just going to have to play out. >> these are the top issues, the economy. does the president have enough time left to turn this around? >> i think that will really have to do with the price of gas and the price of household goods, food, electricity, housing. most americans have never seen price hikes like this in their lifetime and it's frightening them. they're looking toward next year wondering if prices are going to continue to go up. if we suddenly see a drop in gas
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prices, which we did a few months ago and then they reverted right back. if people started to see stickers at the grocery store on milk and bacon also go down at the same time, that could give them so hope. but if this durable inflation, which we've seen all year, and this increase in gas prices continues, i think it will be very hard for the white house to change the subject in time before voters make up their minds about how they're going to vote in november. >> michael, this new abc poll showing that republicans are more enthusiastic to vote in the midterms compared to democrats. are democrats failing on the messaging? or do you think guns or abortions could change that equation? >> it may at the margins to some
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extent. i think the energy has always been with the republicans. this is about a couple things, the narrative that you're seeing out of the gop is twofold. one, the economic woes of the country are all the democrats' fault, and two, democrats want to groom your kids. those are the two strains narratively that the republicans have been very effective at putting into place. democrats don't seem to have an appropriate counter measure to that. the economy now drives an even deeper wedge between the voters and that messaging, because there was no explanation to say this is how it's going to happen, these are the players involved and this is what the administration intends to do not just in terms of the petroleum reserve, but also with respect to drilling here at home that
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the gas companies aren't taking advantage of right now. the leases they have to drill, they're not drilling. they're gouging prices, all of that. narrowly the democrats have put themselves behind an eight ball and it becomes harder to undo that strain when the messaging is so much more appealing to say, the economic woes you're feeling are the democrats' fault and, oh by the way, they want to groom your kids. >> the pennsylvania race has gotten really interesting on the senate side. democrats have been hoping for a pickup there. john fetterman, a very popular progressive candidate, sort of a common man theme to his sweatshirt look against dr. oz, the celebrity doctor with the trump backing. now you've got john fetterman and oz won that primary after the runoff friday. john fetterman acknowledging,
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quote, in a statement that he nearly died with that stroke the weekend before the election. he didn't acknowledge it for two days. then said apparently inaccurately that a -- that was not correct. now there's a credibility factor and he's not out on the campaign trail still. is he damaged as a candidate? >> i think long-term we don't know the answer to that right now. i think in the short-term there's clearly a lot of questions that the fetterman campaign need to be more transparent and quicker in answering. we need to understand the physical health of john fetterman before we can appropriately gauge the political health. this was always going to be a very close senate race. fetterman, who has some
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crossover appeal, won counties in 2018 that trump had won. the question now is, in a bad political environment for democrats, particularly in swing states like pennsylvania, how much more of a hurdle is convincing people that he's physically up to the job? the good news for john fetterman is there's a while before voters are going to make these decisions, but clearly the campaign is going to have to get more transparent and we're going to have to see and interact with john fetterman to understand what his physical health truly is like. >> the gun issue, prominent sports figures are now taking action here, both nba finals coaches, many of their players wearing orange end gun violence shirts ahead of last night's game. we heard this from gregg popovich over the weekend. >> wouldn't you like to just get one of them in a room? i don't care if it's the attorney general, lieutenant governor, the governor, one of the senators, get them in a room
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and say how many will it take? a massacre a month, two massacres a week, 15 kids, 24 kids, then maybe you'll do something? get off your [ bleep ]. do something. >> michael, does that penetrate with the texas politicians? >> probably not. there is an nra factor there that's a prominent player inside the gop obviously. but what that does do is it reflects a growing narrative out there among everyday folks who want something done. we've seen that with david hogg and his fellow students in florida, how they worked to change some of the laws in florida. now there's that energy out there when it's touching figures in our public life that we respect and have some connection
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spontaneously got a little bit out of control is absurd. you don't almost knock over the u.s. government by accident. >> of course, that was congressman jamie raskin of maryland from the committee. in the last hour the "washington post" previewing the house select committee's investigation into the january 6th attack on the capitol. they will make their case to the public in prime time this thursday. former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. congresswoman liz cheney tweeting moments ago this is a moral test for the republican party, she writes, a test she says too many in her party are failing. she and jamie raskin and others are saying this hearing has to show people why this is so
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important. >> it's a poignant tweet from liz cheney, who has really weathered so much backlash within our party to take this stance. she's saying this is about democracy. this is about the american experiment and whether or not we want our democracy to fall apart or whether or not we we want our democracy to fall apart or look at what happened on january 6th and be caught cautioned by it and learn from it and understand what happened. the biggest challenge for lawmakers here as they talk about these huge ideas of american democracy and sort of the experiment we're all living and benefitting from possibly being brought to his knees is whether or not they could make people care. there's so many things that people are juggling between gas prices and inflation, baby formula, abortion, the shootings that are happening. these lawmakers are going to have a narrative to focus the country's attention to say look at this thing. do not turn away. understand that while all those other things are important, the first downation of our country
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is a democracy we have to protect. they have to do that in the face of republicans who are lying still about the 2020 election and who are getting elected and installing people who have the motivation that what happened and why people broke into the capitol in the first place. >> some of the same people on this committee, some of the house members were involved in extraordinary visual evidence in the second impeachment after january 6th. and that didn't galvanize the nation. it's diminished, according to our nbc news poll, since then in terms of the number of people who think donald trump was responsible for that. so they've got conducted more than a thousand interviews. they have resued 125,000 records related to january 6th. how do they pull this together? we should add they have just brought in apparently a retired or former abc news president,
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famed producer to try to help them put this up and tie it with a bow. >> i think there's some value in it. putting together a compelling package. for better or worse, the american public has been groomed to expect high value, quick entertainment. we watch too much "law and order" to have the patience to sit through lengthy hearings that are tedious in their detail. i think putting together a polished show can be very important. but i do think there's one crucial difference between now and the second impeachment, which is the passage of time and the work that's been done many this that time. a thousand interviews, what was missing then because they hadn't had the time to complete the work were interviews with some of the key republicans. people like cassidy hutchinson, who is an aid to mark meadows and was there to see all the things that happened, the aids to mike pence, who have given reportedly very damaging testimony about the pressure
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he's trying to exert on him. high level justice department officials like jeffrey rose who will talk about the showdown where they are willing to resign if trump persisted in a particular plan towards georgia. based on what has been said, i expect there to be new details about a conspiracy. not just the results of what we saw on january 6th, but all of the planning that went into it leading up to that day. >> and they have live witnesses. what is the chances that some trump insiders who testified, you think of the attorney general and mark short from the vice president's desk, would they be some of the live witnesses? >> that's the key question that everyone in washington is trying to figure out. who are going to be the people who are going to be the ones standing up in front of the cameras testifying. i'm very interested in the vice presidential aids because we
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know that the vice president being in danger, running from a crowd that was chanting "hang pns pensacola." after that, so many people told me that they were particularly incensed by the way this happened. i think lawmakers have two big things to do. the first is they have to show january 6th wasn't just a spontaneous event. it was calculated and there was time that went into it. the second thing is understand that january 6th wasn't the end of the trump presidency. it was the beginning of a new phase of america where we're really sort of marching toward our democracy being in peril. those are the two big things they have to capture the attention of a distracted nation a nation that's dealing with so many other thing ps we talk about the pandemic and all the things going on there. it's a tough sell, but it's also something people in washington are going to be watching. what about the rest of the country? >> they maybe showing ivanka on video from her deposition.
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ba barbara, i wanted to ask about the decision by doj, by the attorney general not to indict for violating or ignoring a subpoena from congress. mark meadows and another top leader. >> i think it's very unsettling to see when someone flouts a subpoena they are not charged with contempt. there's probable cause to do that. the explanation that the facts and circumstances indicated this decision is something that we need to consider. they are willing to charge. they charged peter navarro and steve bannon with this crime, but they viewed meadows differently. as the chief of staff and deputy chief of staff in that inner circle, their belief that they had had an executive privilege may have been enough for them to escape charges here. i also think it's quite possible there are strategic reasons at
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play for bannon and navarro, they are such loose cannons. they are willing to give up on them and make them examples for punishment and deterrence purposes. meadows, they were in the iner circle. they may have information yet they'd like to extract. so criminal prosecution is not the best way to get there. that's a civil lawsuit pending between mark meadows and the committee, which should resolve soon. that may be the best way to get to the bottom of what mark meadows knows. >> thank you both. we're all going to be tuned in and watching on friday. right here. before we go, we want to mark the 78th anniversary of d-day. for the memories of the greatest generation as tom brokaw labeled them, now in their the 0s and 100s, who are able to make it back to france, they received a heroes welcome. when you think about the cost of human terms of the invasion
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