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on a day when the way critical issues are handled right now may well determine the outcome of the elections from primaries through november's midterm. not just for candidates, but for our economy, our safety. consider these new pieces of the puzzle. there's a brand new poll that shows 83% of americans describe the state of the economy as poor or not so good. prices for everything from clothes to food on the rise. the average cost of gas hitting another record high today. this hour we'll hear from americans about the pain at at the pump. plus this weekend saw another devastating round of mass shootings that left at least 12 people dead, 38 injured. among the communities experiencing these latest tragedies, philadelphia, chattanooga, saginaw, mesa, arizona. that's according to the gun violence archives. this weekend is pushing some americans to the brink. here's one philadelphia woman

after the shooting there killed 3 and injured 11. >> i'm furious. not just for my neighbor, but for the whole country. >> at a time when basketball coaches are usually focused on the nba finals, golden state warriors coach steve kerr is sending this message. >> get out and vote. that's the only way the to convince the people we need to convince to start implementing gun safety regulation. >> so this is the tough question everyone running for office faces at this moment. what really will get americans out to the ols. is it gun violence? could exhaustion make many just check out? do the american people have the bandwidth to deal with all they face right now. i want to start this hour on capitol hill. form congress man from and washington correspondent michael

smith. so carlos, i want to start with this big picture question. this is the reality facing every candidate running for office. i didn't even mention the war in ukraine, abortion, new laws going into effect in louisiana. is the bandwidth only so wide for voters? are incumbents, particularly democrats, with so much discontent facing a a monumental climb here? >> they are. despite all of the issues that you mentioned, i still think first and foremost for most voters, it's going to be what they are facing every day out there in the economy. whether it's when they pump gas fworks to the grocery store, try to buy things for their kids. this inflation is everywhere in the economy. it seems to be easing a a little bit, but not enough. where people can notice it and that's going to be the number one issue. this is fwing back to 1992. and that famous phrase we all remember, it's the economy, stupid. it really is going to be a

economy this time. there are some issues that do threaten republicans like gun safety. republicans are going to rely on suburbs to try to win back majorities in the house and senate. but a lot of those voters care deeply about these issues. americans do struggle watching people get slaughtered in this country on a regular basis now. if republicans don't come up with a deal with democrats, i do think that that is going to affect them in november. >> if the question then how do you get voters' attention? the committee has a hill to climb. we heard from liz cheney over the weekend. they think they are going to have a really compelling story to tell. can they get the attention? how are they planning to get the attention of folks out there in america who, frankly, come are saying i can only get half my tank full. i can't afford a full tank of gas. sdwl what they are looking for, over the years i have gone back

and looked a at this. we often pay a lot of attention to different moments at hearings. they become sound bytes and well known. when i went back at looked at these moments, the details a about them had come out months before. but it was at the testimony where the public heard it. and heard it from a person. they weren't just reading it or hearing about it on the news. think were sighing an actual person what an experience was like. those events become historic transformative moments. so the question for the committee is that, look, people can make a pretty good argument. what else do you need to know about january 6th to make up your mind? we know so much about this. for most people, it's pretty clear how they view that day. can the committee create a moment, an historic moment, a really time when people can empathize with the person testifying and understand more of the human experience of what january 6th was like. >> they think they have those

people? >> it seems like it. they wouldn't be out there as aggressively as they are. but a at the same time, this is not a scripted thing. they can script their questions. they can have a feeling of where they want to take this. they know the facts. think know those things, but a at the same time, the news worthy thing that will come out of this hearing is something we cannot predict. so it remains to be seen successful they are at doing that. >> i will say that as a high school student, when i didn't even know i really cared about politics that much, the moments of john dean at the watergate hearings are still in my head. >> my guess is -- i i don't know exactly everything about dean's testimony, but a lot of what dean testified we probably already knew, but it was different to hear it from the person himself. >> michael, the third ranking republican in the house, just did an interview with breitbart.

here's the other side of it. republicans are not going to sit by and let democrats have their prime time audience. let me play this. >> this is a political witch hunt. we're working closely with president trump and his team with leader kevin mccarthy and jim jordan and all of the house republicans who will be pushing back in a rapid response tags. you'll see us all over the air waves and setting the record straight and telling the truth to the american people, sharing the facts and pointing out how unprecedented and unconstitutional this committee is. we have lots of media bookings already set. i know that many of our members are going to shine in this moment. >> she's speaking to folks who already agree with her on breitbart. people who think truth and facts are on their side. i wonder what you're hearing from the republican side of the aisle and how hard the pushback might be? >> i think what the committee is

going to try to do, they are going to try to use some republicans to make the argument or present the facts that they want to to potentially insulate them more from being accused of being democrats or liberals making the arguments for the committee. there was a report out they were going to call judge lugig, this is a conservative legal scholar who has been aggressively coming out against saying that january 6th was a horrific day in laying out the legal problems there were with behind trying to get mike pence to pick who the next president was. this was someone who was almost selected by george w. bush to become the chief justice of the supreme court. he says conservative legal mind as there is. so can the committee take sunshine like that and bring them out to do that? at the same time, when i'm laying out is assuming that facts would move things. they would say this is a

respected, conservative legal mind. i should listen to what they are saying. i'm not sure that's going to change any voters. >> one of the people who obviously has a pretty solid republican voting record, liz cheney, was asked about if she feels confident the information the committee has. here's what she said. >> i am. the threat and it's ab ongoing threat, we are not in a situation where former president trump has expressed any sense of remorse about what happened. we are in a situation where he continues to use even more extreme language frankly than the language that caused the attack. and so people must pay attention. people must watch and must understand how easily our democratic system can unravel if we don't defend it.

>> you have been deeply reporting this as well. pick up on what michael was telling us. what are you hearing about the goals for this committee? what are they setting for themselves? >> the goal is to present in full view what happened on january 6th. and perhaps more importantly, why it happened. the committee's view has been this is a fire that's been kindling for hos and months. they are interested in who did the kindling and who lit the match. the committee firmly rejects the view that january 6th was a spontaneous demonstration that got out of hand. they are convinced that this was a conspiracy that goes to the highest level of that former president trump had a hand in. one of the biggest challenges for this committee is how do you breakthrough at a time when the top issues on the minds of voters are not january 6th, but the economy. gas prices, inflation, baby formula, student loans for young people, it's going to be a big challenge. one way to measure the potential success is through public opinion. time has been on trump's side here. our nbc news poll found between

january of 2021 and just last month there was a 7.point decent klein in american who is said truch was solely or primarily responsible for the events of january 6th. a second source i spoke sto want to remind americans what happened. the fading memory has led to a fading belief or lack of understanding of why it happened. they want to bring all that back and use previously unseen material ha they promise will be presented at these hearings, at least six of them coming up. the final thing is action. they measure in parts. their success will be measured in it part by what action, if any, results from it. is cardiologist going to take up their legislate legislations, which we know are coming to try to tighten loopholes that allies tried to exploit to keep in power even though he lost that 2020 election fair and square. that's an open question right now it's not clear congress is going to do anything.

experts are very concerned by what the implications could be if congress lets this moment slip. >> that leaves us perfectly to the broader point. if americans do watch this and feel compelled by this testimony f it does red nat in the court of public opinion, what's the best case scenario for this committee once things wrap up? is it more action from the justice did the? action on voting rights? what do you see? >> the first thing we have to remember is this work is fundamental. this is important work. there must be a record of everything that happened on the 6th of january. the people who were responsible must all be held accountable. i'm talking about those who may have motivated these insurrectionists to go into the capitol. those who failed to have the government respond the way it should have at the time, that

record is very important. i don't think that what the committee puts you out is going to have a major impact on the 2022 elections. i to think, however, if dth did the does decide to run for president, this record will be very important politically. people will reference it. we will see it in ads. and it will very likely hurt former president trump's aspirations for 2024 because it will be a reminder that he at least in some way motivated and inspired one of the most serious attacks against our democracy in our country's history. >> carlos, michael, good to see you here onset. thank you for coming in. something else that's challenging the committee attention is the economy. for 74% of american voters, the cost to fill their gas tank is either treatmently or very important to them ahead of the

elections. easy to see why. a gallon now averages $4.86 gallon. that's nearly $2 more than it cost to fill your tank one year ago. sam brock at a gas station in miami, florida for us. you have been covering these rising prices for weeks. what are people telling you? are they angry? >> reporter: i think frustration is probably the most common description. it's also fair to point out that a year ago at this time, we were $3.05. right now as you pointed out at the top of the broadcast, it's $4.86. that's the difference between $45 to fill up the tank and $75 to fill up your tank. it's definitely leaving a dent. that said at this gas station where i'm standing now, the cars have been coming and going nonstop all day. there's an agency that tracks gas consumption. we're only about 5% off.

so basically flat from where america was a year ago when gas prices were in the low $3. so the economy here has been incredibly resilient so far. bigger issue right now, a lot of the factors that are driving prices up are not going anywhere any time soon. a lot of people think about the sanctions being levied against russia. the energy imports from the european union. that's only one small piece of the puzzle. beyond that, production is not where it used to be. during the pandemic, the man really waned. so they cut back on staffing, wells shut down, there hasn't been any new refineries in a long time. another one in the state of pennsylvania taking offline because of a fire. our kmft and production has dipped and it's not going to be ramped up to make up for increased demand. especially with travel season arriving. i talked to some folk who is said for the time being, they are half filling up their tank trying to get by consolidating

trips. here's a sense of what they told me. >> almost $7 for regular. crazy. never thought i would live to see that. >> i am 86. >> i try to erase it from my mind. i have to go to work. i have to get where i'm going. >> reporter: as the irritation grows, consider this. it's not just gas. housing is up, the cost of clothing is up, gasoline as well, but all these things are forming a terrifying trifecta of inflaugs that's hitting everybody. the gat pump is one of the most obviously, but that bleeds into efrlg else. you're talking about the cost of moving fwoods goes up. clothes, food, everything delivered to a store is on a truck poured by diesel fuel, which is a record 5.56 a gallon. >> i know you're going to follow

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gunshot wound. in chattanooga, gunfire killed 2 people. another person was hit by a car and killed while trying to run away. no arrests have been made there. and just hours before that, a similar scene in philadelphia. a mass shooting on a busy street in that entertainment district that left 3 dead, 11 wounded. nbc is live in philadelphia for us. those shots were fired in the middle of a big crowd. what are we learning this afternoon about the investigation? what are you hearing from people who live there? >> reporter: good afternoon. some breaking developments from the drikt attorney just in. the philadelphia da saying that he is expecting to approve charges for at least two people believed to be in connection to the non-fatal shootings that panned out on saturday night. in total 14 people were shot along here in south street. 3 of those fatal pitly.

we know one of the people killed was believed to be involved in the initial physical altercation that broke out between two men. it this then escalated to a shootout. a lot of the people were hit in the cross fire. a lot of innocent bystanders. south street is one of the most iconic places in philadelphia. lots of people flock to this area, especially when the weather is nice on the weekends. there are dozens of restaurants and bars, music. we're within walking distance of major tourist sites including independence hall. there were hundreds of people here. so of those 14 shooting victims, we're told the ages range from 1 years old to 69 years old. in talk to people who frequent this area, they are fed up with the increase in volence. if you walk up and down the street, you'll see some of the bullet holes in store fronts and windows, but they are not just from saturday. they are from other shootings as well. a recent spree of shootings.

we saw a record in 2021 for the highest number of homicides. and we have seen an increase in crime since 2013. more than 560 murders in 2021. that's more than double than what we saw in 2013. so a concerning rise. >> to say the least. thank you for that update include that breaking news. i want to bring in capitol hill correspondent allie virginia tally. the senate is back in session in around 90 minutes. they have more mass shootings. more senators from states that are facing this in this moment. any clue as to when they think they might have a framework from that bipartisan group of negotiators? what do we expect might be in that package? >> reporter: they have been talking about having a framework for the last few days now. even though the senate wasn't in session, they were still having conversations and negotiations virtually while they were on recess. the goal of being able to come back to washington and at least have something a little more tangible so they can build off

of that. we don't have any indication and it wouldn't be possible for them to move any gun legislation this week in the senate, but they are not ready to do that. the thing we continue toer hear though is this same bucket of policy proposals that range from mental health and school safety to red flag laws and background checks, narrower background checks. we're not talking about universal check here's. that's what they feel can get past in bipartisan fashion. we heard one of the republican who is is part of that bipartisan group, senator from pennsylvania, talking about what's at hand in these negotiations and you can see in what he says a little bit of a clue as to where the policy conversation is going. take a listen. >> there is no one thing that will prevent mass killings. all we can hope for, in hi view, is on the margins, make it more difficult for someone who is dangerously mentally ill or a violent criminal to buy a firearm. and hope there's some kind of intervention in the meantime determined criminal is going to be able to get a gun. i understand that.

but that doesn't mean there's nothing we can do to make it harder for that person to get a gun. >> pat toomey, someone who has long been in this conversation of finding bipartisan solutions to gun violence, famously mentioned one of the gun legislation pieces that failed several years ago. it's one of the touchstones that negotiators keep talking about here. you look at chris murphy of connecticut, who has long been in these conversations around gun violence prevention. he said over the weekend he feels hopeful right now. perhaps more than a at any time in the past. but he also has a great deal of fear these talks could fall apart. they are trying to get to 60 the votes and, frankly, even more than that on the republican side that republican who is do vote for this legislation can have some political cushion for any potential backlash that could come from it. >> thank you. coming up, a secret ballot

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we have breaking news for you right now. the justice department taking new action against a well known russian oligarch. one of the wealthiest men alive. it plans to seize two planes from him as part of the doj's response to the invasion in ukraine. tom winter broke this story for us. i have two questions. why him? and why these planes now? >> right, great questions. a couple different things. we're talking about $400 million worth of planes. the boeing 787, one of the most technologically superior jets was delivered to him green. so they got the controls, the engines and the fuselage. but there was no other furnishings done inside. when they were done with that, it's worth $350 million

reportedly just that single plane. so it is one of the most expensive private jets in the world, period. this is the other jet. the gulf stream g 650, which he also has. you have to have two. so for the reason why they went after this today, he's not sanctioned. this got a number of people's attention and it has been reported he was trying to be an intermediary between ukraine and rusia previously. he broke a commerce department rule. so after the invasion, they came forward and said, look, if you export a plane made in the u.s., both these planes qualify, and you're a russian national, after march 2nd that occurred and you bring it back to russia, at some point even if it you fly out of there, if you bring it to russia, you're going to follow our export control rules and we have grounds to charge you. now it's not -- the planes are not going to be handcuffed here. it's a strict liability case. but they have the ability to go

forward and ask for a seizure. we wrapped up a background call with the justice department. one of the most sbrensing things they told us off that call, the tremendous amount of cooperation. they say they are get from the private sector in helping them address how they can get information on the shell companies, five shell companies were involved here according to the fbi. they allege in their filing that he tried to transfer his assets to his kids around the time of the invasion. and use shell companies to try to pass that through. but people based on the documents were able to tell them what his respectives were really saying who are really own the planes and that's why they were able to make that case. >> do you think it's going to send a message to other russians? sdwl that's the hope. the clear goal of this operation is being led by a federal prosecutor in new york we first profiled here andrew adams. the goal is those close to putin

to feel the pressure and say you can stand with him or you can lose your shirt or your planes if you do so. >> very nice planes you used to have. thank you so much. citing the extraordinary amount of publicity around the murder of george floyd, the trial of two remaining formers officers charged in the killing has been put on hold until january instead of next week. two face aiding and abetting second-degree murder and manslaughter charges. without a postponement, there was a reasonable likelihood of an unfair trial for the two of them. and we are watching capitol hill closely this afternoon. a little more than an hour away from u.s. senators getting back to work and gun reform legislation is issue number one. but taking matters into their own hands. we'll dig into the new major move just signed into law by kathy hochul and what other states are doing now, including one plan to arm teachers.

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right now british prime minister boris johnson is facing a vote that could remove him from office. he needs a simple majority to stay in aur. whatever happens it would be a dramatic turn around after he won that landslide victory in 2019 with an 80-seat majority in parliament. the big question today is can a politician known for his survival abilities do it again? joining us is stefny gosk. most of the headlines today talk about downing street parties during covid lockdown. is that pretty much it? or is there more to what's drive ing the no confidence vote? >> that's largely what's driving it. there maybe some other issues, might be convenient for some nps to use this as the reason to

vote against him. maybe they have ambitions of their own, but for the people in this country, that's what this is about. it is about those parties. it is about a prime minister and his government standing up and saying follow these rules. and then behind closed doors, those rules weren't being followed. they were a series of parties, this was a report released last month. they had the receipts, photos of the prime minister at his birthday party where there were multiple people there, where drinks were being had. another one in november with a good vibe parties in 2020. a good-bye party when the country informs lockdown of the pandemic. and they were having this large good-bye party with drinks again and all the rest of it. it didn't look like essential business. that's what has people upset. it was a do as i say, not as i do kind of situation. that's how the prime minister finds himself in this position tonight. the vote is being taken right now as we speak. it will happen for the next hour

and a half. it's done in secrecy. that's because the ministers in this government they don't want a vote like this, they don't want to vote for fear of retribution should the prime minister stay in aur. that's why it's done in secrecy. that might come as a surprise for a lot of americans. normally we would have transparency for this kind of thing. >> you'll be watching for us. thank you. right now, it's not clear if we'll see concrete action from washington to address the gun violence gripping our nation. it raises an important question. will it be left to state legislatures to address gun violence and guns in general? house states are handling this issue retlekt howdy provided the thinking is. earlier a big move out of new york after the may 14th shooting in buffalo left ten dead. kathy hochul just signed new legislation banning anyone under 21 from buying or possessing a semiautomatic rifle among other measures on the opposite end of the spectrum, republican lawmakers in ohio are sending a

bill to the governor's desk to have teachers carry firearms in class with 24 hours of training. and if you look at texas, in focus after 19 children and 2 adults were killed in uvalde, one republican idea is to spend $50 million to buy bullet proof shields for school police. let's zero in on these states. politics reporter with the texas try bun, and here with me in new york, ron allen. ron, let me start with you. it was a few hours ago we saw kathy hochul. what's happening in new york? >> they are responding to buffalo. they are doing what they can. and remember new york already has the toughest gun lus some of them in the country. one that's giving a lot of talk is mostly the age restriction of 21 to buy or possess a semiautomatic rifle. the shooter in buffalo was 18. they are trying to address the things that were exposed by

that. another big one is tight account the red flag warnings already in existence in new york. again, remember the 18-year-old shooter allegedly had a mental health check of some sort the year before, but it wasn't very serious. he joked his way through it, he says in his writings, ask went on to be able to buy a gun. there's also things like a ban on buying body armor unless you need it for work as a security guard or law enforcement official. so new york is doing what it can to try to solve this problem. here's a what the governor had to say about why she's taking action now. take a listen. >> it just keeps happening over and over and over. i have to ask, when did we become a nation that reveres the right to have the ability to possess a gun over the right of a child to stay alive? when did that happen? >> the other thing that new york is doing is targeting social media companies.

this was a big issue in the buffalo case as well. the so-called manifesto that this guy had written revealing what he was going to do. so new york's governor and legislatures are trying to crack down on social media companies on hate speech, but the attorney general is conducting an investigation on what liability social media canes might have on these mass shootings they are also attacking the social media aspect. new yorken doing what it can, but people in new york will tell you the guy just bought some of his ammunition in pennsylvania across the border. and leaders in new york will tell you so many guns come up from out of state that are traced to crimes in new york city and elsewhere. so regardless of what new york state does, it also matters what other states in the area do and around the country. it's just 1 of 50. so the debate goes on. >> and different states doing different things. the uvalde shooting was just days after buffalo. faems have been beging for action. i want to play something we just heard from the grandfather of

one of the girls killed in the shooting. >> let's get together. let's fix this problem. and quit bickering among each other because there's no room for it no more. there's not. we don't have room in the children for this bickering to go on. and all i'm asking is for everybody that's listening to us, mothers and fathers out there, please hug your babies. because i can't. i can't hug my granddaughter. she was 11 years old. but it's because of this bickering that's going on in the united states about this problem. >> james, it never, ever stops breaking your heart when you hear from these families. and there are a lot of ideas floating around in texas from

those bullet-proof shields to single entrances for schools. but in terms of actual gun reform, does anything stand a chance of passing in texas? what's going on there? >> the main challenge, i think, in respond immediately to these shootings and mass violence events is our legislature only meets once every two years. so if you're a republican lawmaker that's not inclined to take action immediately, you don't have to have that immediate public pressure. you're not in office. you're not in the state house. that is a tool to be used to sort of run out the clock until, unfortunately, the public moves on to another event or turns their attention somewhere else. that's something that has happened in el pennsylvania so and the santa fe shooting and others in the past. there's conversation about expanded background checks, our senator john cornyn is moving on

a lot of legislation you're talking about at the federal level, but republican legislators here it's very difficult for them to come out in support of things like red flag laws or expanded background checks it is a very republican state and that may come back to harm them. >> virtually, no chance of a special session because that would have cob called by greg abbott and we know where he stands on these issues. >> the governor has said all options are on the table, but we have to keep in mind he said that before. there were calls for a special session after el paso. beto o'rourke has called for a special session. but you're right, it doesn't seem like governor abbott is inclined to do that. he's taking other steps to address the situation. >> then ohio, the governor says he will sign that bill arming teachers that requires at least four hours of training in a scenario-based training exercise. although even lawmakers are confused on that point. nothing prohibits requiring additional training. it does not require ohio school districts to arm teachers or

other school personnel. the bill does require school districts to notify the public if they choose to arm their staff and personnel would be subject to annual background checks. why does this appear to be the legislative answer in ohio? >> well, just like in texas, we have a republican-controlled legislature, who has been pretty pro second amendment. a couple weeks ago we passed a law to eliminate permits for conceal to carry. so we have removing constitutional carry here next week. and there have been calls in ohio etc.ly after 2019 to do something and republicans say this is what are willing to do. this is where they are willing to go. and the governor seems to agree with them. i will say ohio does currently allow teachers to carry weps, but we require peace offer trainings that's about 700 hours. and this is dropping it down to 24. >> more to come from states around the country. thank you all so much for

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which is the fast disappearing greatest generation. eight d-day veterans made their way here with the help of the best defense foundation and delta airlines. over my shoulder, they came to pay respects to the 9,087 americans buried here. just beyond the cemetery is omaha beach where some of those stormed ashore. what they went through they describe as hell. they say as they were coming in and wading to shore, to their right and to their left were their brothers but not one of them wasn't fearful, crying, worried they just would not make it. as we know, so many didn't. in fact, in the first 24 hours, there were 3,000 casualties. but the relentless attacks and assault, which became the largest amphibious assault in history, was successful and ultimately led to the liberation of france and finally down some time here to the end of hitler's

germany. i got a chance to join these veterans, two of them, both 99 years old, making this trip here back for the last time to talk to them as they looked at the beach and as they remembered what they went through of why it was so important to be here. this is what they had to say. >> i am not a hero. these people are not heros. we were soldiers, we were being led to do. every one of these guys that are buried here, they made a path for us to walk in so we wouldn't be buried out here. >> my favorite story is we did it for you people so don't screw it up. >> i love him. >> reporter: bob gibson here with a little sense of humor saying that we do have a responsibility when we understand what they did for us. as he said, don't screw it up. chris, one of the things that struck me as, you know, some of these guys joined the military

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ultimately to the world we live in. >> extraordinary on the beaches of normandy but extraordinary even now in making the decision to go ahead and go and seem to be totally with it. kerrey sanders, i'm more than a little built jealous you got to meet these guys. they may not call themselves heros but we all know better. >> we do. >> "katy tur reports" starts next. reports" starts next help us get every bottle back.

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