good day, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. pressure is building on the january 6 committee to provide revelations at its first public hearing thursday night. revelations that could galvanize a nation that wants to move on. key witnesses at the primetime hearing thursday night include a filmmaker shooting a documentary about the proud boys before and during the attack on the capitol and a capitol police officer, one of the first to be injured that day. we will get perspective from bob woodward on the hearings and how he and carl bernstein compare them to the watergate hearings. a report from ukraine where president zelenskyy says there's

fierce fighting in key areas of the donbas. another big primary day from california to new jersey. we will have steve kornacki to break it all down. we begin with the january 6th hearings. ali vitali and ryan reilly and eugene daniels. ali, first to you. the company members have been projecting confidence, new evidence, things we haven't seen or heard before. are they going to have a difficult task ahead with so much of the country distracted by inflation, gas prices, the gun issue, of course, other things than what happened last year? >> there's other things going on up here on capitol hill. but this is the culmination of a year of work for the january 6 select committee, finally coming

to fruition in primetime thursday night. they have a challenge before them of trying to elevate this hearing into something that is historic and compelling for the attention of the american people, many of whom watched what happened in real time on their television screens that day. it's why we have committee members promising there's going to be new material released. it's why these witnesses are just so important, especially for the first one as they seek to set the tone of these hearings going forward. we know -- you just laid out our latest reporting that among the witnesses is a documentarian who was with the proud boys that day. then, of course, my colleague garrett haake and i reporting in the last hour or so that another one of the witnesses is going to be a capitol police officer, caroline edwards, injured in that and who officers have recalled to me that they remember hearing her call for help over the radio on january

6. here is how she remembered that day to garrett in an interview a year ago. >> they started ripping down barriers. that's when the moment that i knew, this is not like any other protest. they approached our line. they injured me and a couple of officers by tearing down our barricade. and then the fight on the west front began. it was chaos. i have never seen anything like that. when somebody shows me footage of the 6th, i have to have them turn off the sound. that sound, that screaming, that just constant -- i can't hear it. it takes me back to a very bad place. >> i'm struck in hearing what the officer was saying there. other lawmakers who i have interviewed in the house chambers say something similar, they can't listen to video of that day with the sound on. it's going to be a very

traumatic moment for those in the capitol hill community who were here on the hill and who experienced that day. the committee has said time and again, this is why it's so important for them to set that narrative and tell the american public what happened. >> eugene daniels, the task is more complicated -- of course there's going to be pushback. we hear organizing, how they will message former president trump, the maga republicans, and the fox news network not planning to carry the primetime hearing, at least as of now. >> that's absolutely right. this committee has a huge task ahead of itself. they have done so much work, like ali laid out. also now their job is to make an american public pay attention after more than a year of whitewashing by the republican party, whitewashing by folks on fox news and the right wing media apparatus. that's a difficult thing to do.

let the american people know what happened that day, what happened the days leading up to it, who was at fault and more importantly, how do we keep this as a country from starting again -- they want to say, this is -- look what happened on january 6. we can't allow this to happen again. more importantly, counteracting that whitewashing that happened for a year and a half. >> that is a continuing effort to overturn the election in terms of the secretary of state elections happening around the country. ryan reilly, what can you tell us about those five members of the proud boys, the charges they are facing?

>> this documentarian will testify as one of the people who produced the key evidence. he was following the proud boys in the days up. he was there during this meeting between the head of proud boys and the head of the oath keepers on january 5th. this was right after the head of the proud boys had been released from jail on the evening of january 5th and was told to get out of the city after he was arrested on unrelated charges. there's going to be a lot of evidence. sitting through some of the jury trials, it's kind of an interesting experiment for what the committee is trying to do here, which is re-emphasize how awful january 6 was. a lot of the jurors obviously had some impact on january 6, affected a lot of people across the district. people weren't intimately familiar, even d.c. jurors, with some of the attacks. they only knew a couple potential defendants.

they knew the guy with the horns. what prosecuors were able to do is draw a compelling narrative using video and showing them what happen and right now they are batting 1,000 when they go to trial. five trials and every defendant has been convicted. prosecutors put together all this evidence. it is compelling. watch some of the jurors such see this video that a lot of americans necessarily haven't seen about that day. it's interesting that we mention the audio that is in the videos. that's something that citizen sleuths have noted. they turn off the audio. it is disturbing and heightens the anxiety that you feel watching a lot of the videos. >> indeed. joyce vance has joined us, former u.s. attorney. talk to me about how difficult this is to prove. it's a very serious federal charge. >> it's a serious charge.

it's obviously not frequently used, because we're not a country that typically has this on our hands. in some cases where it has been used, for instance against a michigan militia group during the obama administration, it has proven very difficult to convince a jury to convict. often, these cases have resolved into an acquittal. that makes it important to remember that this very conservative justice department, which we have seen move slowly and deliberately, has decided it has sufficient evidence now not just on one but two militia groups. the opening question for the justice department as it looks at the january 6 committee hearings is whether there will be a connect the dots moment where those two threads will meet in the middle. the committee says it has evidence the former president was involved. liz cheney believes there's a conspiracy. will there be a connection

between where the january 6 committee is headed and the indictments with the serious charges? >> joyce, i think the conspirators -- alleged conspirators, in michigan, were acquitted. is that the same case? >> yes. >> they got off. the question is going to be how good the evidence is. the oath keepers have been charged earlier, who were participants in january 6. this is the justice department going after these groups. >> it is. it's important to remember that when you have a couple of acquittals in your background at doj, you question whether a statute is a good statute for you to indict under. are there legal problems? is if too difficult to put together the evidence that you need to convict? i want to underline the

importance of doj's decisions to bring forward these indictments. they require doj to establish beyond a reasonable doubt that these groups intended to use violence to accomplish their objectives. that will be some compelling evidence when we hear it at trial. >> one question will be, what if any connection they can establish to people surrounding donald trump or the president himself. remember what he said about the proud boys when asked about whether he disavowed white supremacists in a debate back in the election, one of the top -- i'm trying to remember the terms he used. proud boys stand tall. >> stand back and stand by. >> yep. >> stand back and stand by. he did not disavow them. thanks for that. eugene and ryan, thank you. al and, of course, eugene and

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fierce fighting is raging between ukrainian and russian troops in the battle for severodonetsk, a key city as russia tries to gain control of the donbas. ukrainian officials say moscow is blocking ukraine from exporting 20 million tons of grain. much of it discontinued for the middle east and africa. antony blinken said monday there are reports that russia is

stealing ukraine's grain exports to sell for profit itself. >> we know that. president putin is stopping food from being shipped and using his propaganda machine to distort responsibility because he hopes it will get the world to give in to him and end the sanctions. it's blackmail. >> molly hunter is in kharkiv. can ukrainian forces hold off russia in the fight for the donbas? i don't know whether they are trained yet on the artillery that the u.s. sent. probably not. it takes a couple of weeks. >> reporter: andrea, good to be with you. the most recent artillery advanced weapon systems heading for the donbas, not trained yet. i want to bring you up to speed about where i am. we are in kharkiv. this is the kharkiv regional

building hit in early march. hit very, very hard. in the last couple of weeks, it's been cleaned up. they planted flowers outside. this downtown is pretty much a ghost town. there are cafes opening up. we hear in the distance incoming. the villages to the north and to the east are still under ukrainian control. just beyond that, closer to the russian border, the fighting is very fierce. we spoke with an american woman who is a medic in one of the units up there. she says the russians are pushing very, very hard to take back the villages that ukraine has pushed them out of. moving down to the donbas, i have a couple updates about severodonetsk. the head of the luhansk says to stay in that city where 10 to 11,000 civilians are to stay in the city is to play with destiny. humanitarian aid was delivered today. 10 to 11,000 people in there,

these people have no power, no water and no safe way of getting out. the other city, the other town that we are focusing on is lisitchans. >> thank you. joining us now is former director of european affairs in the national security council. colonel vinman, thank you very much. russia is making progress. they are making advance in the donbas. what more can ukraine or perhaps the u.s. and allies do to help them? >> thanks for having me back on. the most important thing that ukraine needs to do in the short-term is hang on. the ukrainian military is is holding a line and allowing the russian military to break itself on the ukrainian military. not allowing large units to be pinned down or destroyed, not allowing russia to -- only to

make gains at high costs is exactly the tactic that they need to do right now. in the meantime, all this capability is coming online. these heavy weapons, setting aside the rockets that were just approved by the president, these heavy weapons have only been introduced recently. they are not fully incorporated. as the rockets come into affect, that's going to start to ease the huge gap between the russian fires and ukrainian fires. the ukrainians need to hold out and allow the russians to expend their limited resources because of how much damage they suffered through the war. then when the russians shift to defense, that's when the ukrainians could pick where and when they want to fight. that's where they could make gains. they did this weeks ago in the kharkiv area. they are doing that to a certain extent in the south. the longer they hold out, the harder for the russians. they need to garner their

strength for a counterattack. >> i want to ask you about the grand blockade. secretary of state blinken said there are reports that russia is stealing ukraine's grain. we know how much egypt and africa rely ukrainian grain and wheat. this has been a disaster for the harvest. it's sitting in silos. there was a plan, a turkish plan, i believe, to negotiate with russia and try to get a humanitarian corridor and have nato ships, perhaps escort them out. now we understand there's a new problem, maybe it's an old problem, mines in the black sea. what can you tell us about that? that would take months to clear. >> sure. frankly, i'm dubious of the russians coming to any accommodation. they see this leverage, this wedge of grain and people

starving as a means to force the west to ease sanctions on russia. they made play at negotiations. there were negotiations for a short spell with regard to turkey and ukraine and having the turks secure those grain shipments by sea out of the port of odesa. it's hard to believe the russians are going to follow through on any of this. they want to indicate that there are negotiations. ultimately, the only solution i see happening is that turkey chooses to -- along with ukraine and other baltic states, chooses to secure those grain convoys that need to go out to the middle east, need to go out to africa, to avoid famine. it's going to occur not because russia is benevolent but because they have no choice but to cooperate. otherwise, russia is going to try to steal this grain and sell it. we can't blame the countries that are on the brink of famine for holding out as long as they

can. eventually, looking to accumulate those food stuffs to feed their people. that's understandable. russia has to bear a cost. this is part of the nature of russia's war effort, waging war on the rest of the world economically and now through food scarcity. >> at least now in kyiv, there's a u.s. ambassador for the first time since 2019. she spoke with rachel last night about whether ukraine will lose large parts of its territory in it gets into negotiations with russia. >> we are letting the ukrainians decide when or how they will negotiate as president zelenskyy said and president biden affirmed. all wars end in some kind of negotiation. we are supporting ukraine as it fights right now to defend itself. >> there's increasing pressure on ukraine to start sitting down at the table.

russia has shown no interest in credibly negotiating. >> right. russia has a maximalist objectives. it hasn't given up on the whole country. they are living in an imaginary world. ukraine is going to start to recapture its territory. it's going to start to liberate its territory. these small russian gains in the east right now belie what this war is going to -- how this war is going to unfold. it's going to unfold in the favor of ukraine liberating its territory. >> colonel, thank you for being with us. bottom line, is there anything the white house can do about sky high gas prices before the midterms? millions feel the pain at the pump. the energy secretary joining me next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. reports" on msnbc. is a journey for the curious traveler, one that many have yet to discover.

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we know that the president said that it was a congressional issue. he wasn't going to interfere. why the briefing today? where do you think the talks are? >> well, andrea, we asked senator murphy that exact question. he said he was here to update president biden on the talks. he says there has been progress. i pressed him, when will there be a deal? he said it's confident that they will be on track to reach a deal soon. he is hoping by the end of the week. he said, look, that's not a firm deadline. but that's what they are aiming for. we also asked him, to what extent has president biden been engaged in the talks? the president has tried to let the senate negotiators take the lead on this. he wouldn't answer directly, andrea, when it came to the role the president has been playing and whether he asked for the meeting. he said that he wanted to continue to update president biden on the state of the talks. notably, he called this a

critical phase. we know that there is a potential agreement coming together around two areas. expanding background checks, which would either encourage or require states to provide background checks of those who are -- when they were juveniles in order to purchase a gun and also encouraging states to adapt what are called red flag laws, those laws that allow law enforcement to take away guns deemed a threat to themselves or others. not in the agreement coming together, increasing the age to buy an assault weapon and, of course, not banning assault weapons. that's something president biden has asked for but has also said is unrealistic. >> back on capitol hill, janet yellen was facing questions about inflation, gas prices and the handling of the economy. she said a third of the inflation is not from oil.

a third of the inflation that we are experiencing is the rise in new and used car prices, because of a shortage of semiconductors. she talked about how it's a national security issue that we have to start subsidizing semiconductor production. >> right. this is a top issue for the biden administration. inflation and, of course, gas prices. this is something that is at the top of their list for challenges and, frankly, crises to tackle. 33% of americans approve of the president's handling of the economy. when it comes to what the administration plans to do about it, we have seen a shift in terms of strategy when it comes to communicating with the american people. president biden really trying to stress what he perceives to be the bright spots, including the low unemployment rate and the fact that he did tap oil reserves back in april. what are the next possible steps? that remains to be seen. kristi

much. joining us more, the u.s. energy secretary. it's great to see you again. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> record high gas prices, especially in california, where they are having a primary today. the midterms are fast approaching. $6.37 a gallon on average, as much as $9 plus in l.a. in nevada, it's $5.52. oregon, $5.46. just for regular. 13 states see prices of more than $5 a gallon. is there anything the white house can do? you have done the strategic petroleum reserve. what about a gas tax holiday? >> let me say the president is going to bed at night thinking about this and waking up and asking for all good ideas, including looking at gas tax, looking at everything possible.

he called for an increase in supply. when russia invaded ukraine, they pulled a million barrels off of the global market. we know gas is traded on a global market. when you have that large of an amount, that creates upward pressure on prices. he called for domestically oil and gas produces to increase production and he called globally for oil and gas producers to increase their production to try to make up for those lost barrels that russia took off the market essentially. andrea, you know this, being the expert that you are in international affairs, that international actions affect what happens here at home in this gas and oil market. for example, when china is opening up after covid, that means more people are driving, that means an increase in demand and that means that if you don't

increase the supply to match that increase in demand, then you've got a problem. when people drive more in the summer, that also increases demand. if you don't increase supply, that creates a problem with prices. the bottom line for the immediate future is to increase the supply domestically and overseas. that's why the president released the million dollars per day from the strategic petroleum reserve for six months while our domestic oil and gas industry ramps up production. >> have we seen any sign of more production -- it has been tough getting the saudis to move. we have tense relations there. we're not doing well with mexico, either. they are involved with russia in opec plus. our foreign policy is still a work in progress, let's say, and a lot of difficulty. what about the domestic suppliers? what about drilling on lands they have? >> it's a great question. yes, they are.

the president in his first year in office gave out more drilling permits for oil and gas producers than even the last administration did in the first, second or third year. they have a lot of permits. we have called upon them to use those permits to pick up production. our energy energy agency, the objective entity that projects the growth and trends in oil and gas and other forms of energy, has said that by the end of this year, the domestic oil and gas industry will have increased production by about a million barrels per day. that's good. but with all of the other things going on globally, we probably have to increase more than that in order to get prices down to a reasonable level. in the immediate -- i can tell you, that every single leader across the world is looking at this as well. if you went today to canada, you would be paying $6.25 per gallon equivalent. if you went to germany, you would be paying over $8.80.

in the uk, it's almost $8 per gallon. it's happening all over the world. everyone is trying to figure it out. the good news from at least the u.s. perspective is that despite this high inflation rate and high gas prices, our unemployment rate is really low and has remained low because of the president's activity in other areas to try to grow our economy and keep covid down. we are working off of a decent base. the president obviously has created a huge number of jobs, the economy has created a huge number of jobs under this president, but we have work to do on inflation, which is a global issue, and on the gas prices, by increasing supply. >> as i say, midterms approaching. it's a big political problem. i know he is pulling out all the stops. whether it can be done in time is the question.

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this is the district attorney for san francisco. he is facing a recall election here. one of the most democratic cities in america. one of the most liberal cities in america. one of a group of district attorneys around the country elected over the last several years, touting progressive de-carceration he calls it. issues like crime, quality of life have taken center stage. they have helped this push for a recall. he is facing the potential of losing his job tonight in san francisco. this will be closely watched for the potential national implications here. the way the elections work in california, so many of the votes cast by mail received days, weeks ahead of time, they are ready to go when the polls close, 11:00 eastern tonight, sometime in the 11:00 to midnight hour, we should get results from san francisco and from elsewhere in the state.

if this is a blowout, if this is lopsided, we should know quickly tonight. if it's a closer recall election, it may take days, may take more than a week to get all the mail-in ballots tallied up and get a final result. a lot of attention, the second largest city in the country, los angeles, mayoral primary. top two advance to november to face off, unless somebody can get 50%. no one close to 50%. it's looking like a runoff between karen bass and rick caruso. he has poured a fortune into his campaign. like we said in san francisco, he has stressed crime, homelessness, quality of life issues. he has risen in the polls. this has been closer than a lot of folks expected. caruso was a republican, an independent for much of his political career. switched to the democratic party in the last several months.

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when the watergate hearings aired live in nation was gavel vised, glued to the airing on three commercial television networks and public television. that's all that existed at the time. the january 6th committee has a lot more competition in their push to find a big audience to try to influence public opinion with what they found. joining me now is "washington post" associate editor bob woodward. it's being republished today with a new drags by the authors. a part was excerpted in the outlook this weekend. so i want to talk to you. i read that. first, some break news from your

colleagues. reporting that the president on january 6th, he gave the speech, was so eager to go with the marchers and he dp say i'll be going with you to the hill. he wanted to go with them to the secret service scrambled to create a motorcade and didn't hatch. he did say we're going to walk down to the crowd. so websites to the committee and that's obviously part of what is going to be unveiled in this series of hearings. how hard is it going to be for them to get the public's attention where people consumed by gas prices and other problems and many of them want to move on and at this point fox news the big fox news channel is not going to carry it. >> but i think people are going to watch. they realize the stakes are democracy.

and what happened and i'm convinced that donald trump others conspired and criminal way to overturn the election and prevent biden from taking power legitimately. and if you get into the legal technicalities here, it sounds kind of boring, but section 371 of the criminal code make it is very clear if you work to subvert a legitimate function of government, you are committing a crime. and we have overt acts by donald trump going on to this day. it continues. and it is -- it's per affordable care actually clear, as they used to say in the nixon case.

>> this is not history of an insurrection as much as it is an ongoing threat. i want to focus on something you wrote about former president trump in your peace with karl besh steen. you call him america's first seditious president. donald trump not only sought to destroy the electoral system of state election officials, but he also attempted to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to his dually elected successor for the first time in american history. so take a stab at that and how he compares to nixon, the other criminal. >> interesting comparison of nixon and trump. i'm sure historians will be wrestling with this for decades. they both found the soft spot in the system. nixon, the parties, the democratic party decides who

knicks sob is going to run against in '7. he would like a weaker kapd, so he launched and financed a massive campaign of sabotage and espionage and cover-up to make sure you remember this. you and i are a handful of people who do that nixon picked his opponent, george mcgovern, who is going to be weaker than senator musky. he destroyed him with $250,000 of really unbelieved dirty tricks. and in the end, musky was bewildered and said all these bad things that happened. it was an assault on the process of deciding who is nominated. >> he even stole his shoes from

outside his hotel room so he didn't have shoes to wear to events. >> he would go to an event and one of the dirty tricksters working for nixon and john mitchell would order 200 pizzas to be sent to the event. no one was prepared for that or ready to pay for it. but it was a sequence, an unending sequence of highly disruptive activities that when you take them, that's kind of a prank it was no prank to musky. now what trump did, he saw the soft spot in the electoral system and the law and the constitution, which says on january 6th at 1:00 the vice president, president of the senate, pence, will count the votes from the states.

and it's the only event. there was no law. there's nothing else done than that. so that becomes the process of saying, oh yes, this is the next president. >> we are out of time, but please come back during the hearings. we have a couple week asks we want to hear more from you. >> it's good seeing you. >> you are the expert. and that does it for us. we have no more time. follow us online on facebook and on twitter. chris jansing starts right after this where they will keep a close eye on the white house briefing as actor matthew mcconaughey will be joining the press secretary at today's press briefing to talk about the guns. bye-bye. etary at today's press briefing to talk about the guns. bye-bye.

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