the january 6th hearings on thursday. enrique tario and four other members of the proud boys are charged with se digs conspiracy for their roles in the insurrection. this is on top of the previous indictment for tarrio, where he was charged with conspiracy to obstruct the 2020 certification. he was arrested back in march on that and other charges, to which he pleaded not guilty. but he has remained in custody pending trial. this new charge is exactly what keeper stewart rhodes was charged with. they noted tarrio and rhodes met the night before the insurrection. that meeting seen here in this newly obtained video was captured by british film maker

nick queststead. he will be one of the key witnesses on thursday and he is expected to reveal more previously unseen video of the proud boys that day. we are also expecting to hear from u.s. capitol police officer caroline edwards, who was injured in the attack. she told nbc news' garrett haake in october january 6th felt like a war zone. >> they started ripping down barriers. that's when the moment i knew this is not like any other protest. they approached our line. they injured me and a couple of officers by tearing down you know our barricade and then the fight on the west front began. it was chaos. i've never seen anything like that. >> and now breaking just a few minutes ago, new reporting from "the washington post" that president trump had been insisting for two weeks before the insurrection that he wanted to march alongside his

supporters to the capitol. joining me now is nbc news justice reporter ryan reilly, politico investigative reporter josh to besee and luke broadwater. john, i want to start with you, ripe, excuse me, let's talk about this indictment for enrique tarrio, there are a number of text messages included in the indictment. how do they get from conspiracy to stop the certification of the election to seditious conspiracy? >> reporter: yes. so there is not new information in the indictment. there is this exchange that has been a new component of this late on the day on january 6th which he corresponds with another unidentified person a proud boy for taking credit for what they did january 6th and saying this was saying, brother, you know we need this to happen. the other person says, tarrio replies, i know.

unidentified person responds with 1776. a reference to the u.s. revolution and a profanity, a reference from tarrio to the winter palace alluding to the russian revolution and a comment, dude, did we just replay history? tarrio says, let's first let this play out. this was after federal authorities had gone ahold of his phone. because he was arrested january 4k9 and held until january 5th in connection with burning a black lives matter flag in a previous event earlier. so he could not have his phone. there was a photographer with him as seen in this documentary video who he borrowed a phone from. later he obtains a phone the next day. >> really interesting. so they will presumably use some of these in the january 6th hearings, the public phase, am i wrong to guess on that, ryan?

>> reporter: no, they're definitely gentleman to be using some of these videos. i think the committee is counting on here this documentarian captured some really, really, brutal footage january 6th. he was there the whole time. he was there on the front lines as proud boys break through this barrier. a lot of this footage hasn't been seen by the american public before. he's got hours of it. they're counting on hitting americans on the head over how brutal january 6th was. >> the hearings start on thursday. there is a lot of public anticipation. do we know more about the rollout? >> so we know there is likely going to be six hearings throughout the month of june. we learned yesterday through sources the two first witnesses you mentioned at the top of the show. i think they both will provide very valuable information. anybody who has spoken with officer caroline edward knows she has a very powerful story to tell about what happened to her and what she experienced that

day and, in fact, the lingering ramifications the of that day. she's continued to have fainting spells for months after suffering the concussion in that initial scuffle. she, you know, cried out on the radio in a way that many people heard, many fellow officers came running to her to try to provide a defense. it was really the first signal that this was no longer a protest in that the mob was beginning to overrun the police that day. i think we will see a lot of focus on just how tactical and surgical the proud boys were in the attack on the capital, including how they breached certain points. so i expect to have new information. i suspect it to be something the public will definitely take a big interest in. >> all right. so let's talk about the new reporting from "the washington post", josh, and this surrounds donald trump's head on the day of january 6th.

there is reporting now that he was talking about marching with his protesters to the capitol for two weeks leading up to january 6th and that secret service scrambled on the day of january 6th when he was out there saying i will march alongside of you. >> right. so the january 6th committee has interviewed a number of trump aides and secret service personnel about the events that led up to january 6th, former president trump desired to march. what they've learned is that leading up to new year's eve, there was a repeated push by the former president to march in the rally and that was use to march to the capitol and that was viewed negatively by secret service, who believed it would be unsafe and they would not be able to protect him, if he did that. that was relayed back to the former president. one of his top aides who oversaw the secret service had discussed this with many white house officials or some white house officials and secret service personnel. then on the day of january 6th.

, when former president trump is on the u.s., he says out loud, we will be marching to the capitol. it caught a lot of secret service officers off guard. they scrambled, they called d.c. to see if any motorcade route could be outline. eventually that was scuttled by top secret service agents in the white house who said, we're not going to do that. it's not safe. the former president was taken back to the white house. there were repeated pushes by the former president to march to the capital, himself. >> what does that indicate, that there were repeated pushes about what he was expecting on january 6th? >> reporter: well, i don't think we know, katie. i don't think we have any evidence that he knew that those folks were going to go into the capitol and get violent and smash windows or police officers. i don't think there is evidence of that. we know he had a plan that folks

were going to march to the capitol and he wanted to be a part of it and a lot of folks in his west wing and the secret service did not view that as prudent, as safe and did not vow that as something he should do. >> ali, has to hearings again start on thursday. there likely will be six we will be watching. the hope by the committee stitt that it will dominate attention. there will be some in prime time it seems. they want this to lead newscasts. they want to remind people of what it was like on that day. are you hearing that counterprograming, what republicans will try to do to undercut the messaging from the january 6th committee? and i guess what we should expect from them? what we should be on the lookout for as this starts? >> reporter: well, the republican pushback, katie, has been consistent of the course of the last year since the committee began its work. they have worked republicans to say that this is political. it's an illegitimately

constituted committee because republicans were not able to put members that they suggested onto the committee. again that's not to say there are not republicans on this committee. we know liz cheney and adam kinsinger are the two members along with other democrats. but this has been, republicans have continued to say over the course of the last few months. it's the thing they have pivoted to in the instance of five republican law makers, including the top republican kevin mccarthy when they were suspend by the committee saying they're not complying with those suspense because the committee is in their eyes illegitimate. just because they say doesn't mean it's actually true. that's likely what we will hear from them as they push counterprograming. but we should add that counterprogram secretary likely to be centered around conservative medio outlets who are already sympathetic to the view points they're espousing. i think there are some conversations about republican source i talked to whether

counter-programing is effective for them. by talking about the january 6th insurrection, that i are focused on the insurrection, as opposed to things republicans want to be focused on now, which are inflation and things they think will be electrifying. as much as they want to counterprogram about this, it may be counterproductive. >> there is that polling out there, luke, what americans are pocused on. january 6th is not a focus. they're looking at inflation, gas prices, the economy, et cetera. is the committee taking this into account, from your reporting? are they trying to work towards gaining the attention, capturing the attention when it was otherwise occupied? >> reporter: yes. the committee is in a situation here where they are trying to conduct an apolitical investigation and get to the bottom of january 6th. they also want to make sure

people are tuned in and watching it. so there is a pressure on them to present their findings in a way that will grab the attention of the public and then they, you know, in a manageable way so they're trying to have hearings around 90 minutes to two hours, roughly the length of a movie and will have sort of a very clear narrative that can layout to the public in a way that will try to grab not only democrats and motivate them, also independents or possibly republicans. we saw a poll right after january 6th there was a lot more uniformity an agreement among the american people what happened and who was to blame. in the months that passed, people have sort of diverted back to their original political camps. so i think they're trying to recapture that moment after january 6th when the country was more unified in condemning the violence that overtook the capitol. >> so a part of the issue here is linking all of these things

together and, ryan, we see the indictments doj for enrique tarrio and the proud boys. he wasn't in washington, d.c. january 6th. he was expelled from the district for a previous encounter that he had the day before, a couple days before. so he wasn't there during that day. but linking the actions of the proud boys, the actions of those who stormed the capitol, trying to prove that there was some sort of motivating factor here that was pre conceived in the leadup to the january 6th insurrection, that they were planning on doing something like this and then going back and try to link it politically to the trump white house. it's a tough task. >> you know, you would think it would be. there are not that mr. degrees of separation between the violent to overthrow congress on january 6th and some of the legal efforts. if you look at that video from that garage, you identify the

individuals in there, you see someone who is the head of latinos for trump, who was very involved in organizing rallies that day. you see another woman who is a part of the oath keepers. she also involved with lawyers for trump and she was in detroit during the november 2020 elections, also trying to engage in this effort to basically stop people from voting. so i think that's what people really are going to see here is that overlap between this physical violence we saw january 6th and this more sort of effort, legal effort to stop the votes being counted and stop democracy from working during the 2020 elections. >> what you are saying is these are all well-known figures surrounding the trump white house? >> correct. you look at roger stone. he is right there. he is connected to trump. he also -- he was being guarded by a proud boysful there is so much overlap between the proud boys and members of the oath keepers and the white house,

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of course we still have a lot of work to do in the senate. i am grateful what is giving us the space necessary to get something done. >> [ inaudible question ] >> ultimately, my goal is to try to get an agreement this week. senator schumer -- [ inaudible ] processes. >> and at a senate judiciary committee hearing on domestic terrorism today, witness garn el whitfield, jr., delivered emotional testimony. his mother ruth was killed in buffalo. police say a man motivate by racism murdered ten people at a supermarket there last month. >> you do it. you are elected to protect us. to protect our way of life remember i ask every one of you to imagine the faces of your mothers as you look at mine and ask yourself, is there nothing

that we can do? is there nothing that you personally are willing to do to stop the cancer of white supremacy? my mother's life mattered. my mother's life mattered. and your actions here today will tell us how much it matters to you. >> don't do us a favor. do your jobs, that is what he was saying. >> joining us is report ir, i wonder how the room reacted to him and how that will affect all we are seeing on capitol hill hill today? >> reporter: it was certainly powerful testimony, that hearing included the chair of that panel dick durbin starting off talking about the rise of white supremacy violence replacing it with the great racist theory and calling out one person in particular on another network who is known for promoting that.

it included testimony from several witnesses, several experts, including one that talked about that unique american cocktail around the ideaologist out there and easy access to deadly weapons to act on those ideaologist, where as they invited jonathan turley, a professor that talks about constitutional concerns about the domestic terrorism act. as for everything else happening on capitol hill with regard to guns. bipartisan negotiators are still looking to get a deal on this. they are more so positive in more than a decade covering the senate. john cornyn, the republican lead negotiator, chris murphy, the leading democrat. cornyn was not in that room. cornyn is seeking a safe zone to get enough republicans on board without offending the pro gun voters on base or a passionate slice of that base.

it remains seen if they can come to a deal. they are optimistic. >> i think it's interesting that cornyn was not in that meeting, that he knew it might not help things to see him negotiating with the president. it's just an indicator of the political times we live in, where you can't ever be seen working with the other side, especially in a mid-term year. the end of the week is what senator chris murphy success he is hoping for. do you get the sense that is a realistic time line? he said senator schumer might be willing to give him a bit more time. >> reporter: it's a bit of a moving target. that is the goal. there certainly won't be legislative language or a full bill ready to be voted on the end of this week. that is simply not going to happen. if these negotiate ars can come up with the parameters of a deal with look like. they have a background, mental healths, school safety. they're moving in the direction

of making it an incentive for states to pass these laws that allow them to petition courts to keep dangerous weapons away or deadly weapons from dangerous people on background checks. there is a lot of talk about that 18-to-21-year-old category of individuals. they are legally allowed to buy weapons like semi automatic rifles. what is juveniles have violent criminal histories. they are hard to access. should they not be forbidden from getting a weapon. that one of the things they are looking at. the reality is, at the end of this week, they are on course for a deem. i think chuck schumer the majority leader will allow more time. one says it's this week and next week that matters the most. we should know whether this is looking likely or whether it is headed in the wrong direction. >> there is interesting reporting on how these measures would have stopped the shootings we have 18 over the years.

they have concrete evidence that some of these more limited measures would have stopped some of these shooters from getting a gun and killing dozens of people, more than dozens of people, so, even though it is limited, it will save lives if they are able to get it done. mathew mcconaughey, the actor from uvalde was going to run for texas governor, flirting with the idea, has come out and talked about gun issues, however, not so explicitly in the aftermath of valid. he will be with jean-pierre at the white house briefing that happens in few seconds. we go there. have any idea of what we should expect from matt? >> well, mcconaughey is probably the most prominent native of uvalde, texas known to anybody in the world. she in a unique position to speak out. he has been using hess voice to plead with congress to stop the mass slaughter of innocent

children. he has met with democrats and republicans, yesterday, dick durbin, which has oversight on gun policy. i would expect something quite similar to what we have seen from him in that op-ed. he has been reluctant about speaking to the press. he is speaking to lawmakers, trying to make his case with them. he happens to be a constituent of john cornyn, the texas republican leading these negotiations, a few asked him yesterday if they've talked? he says, yes, they have talked on the phone and mentioned him as a constituent. he left it at that. >> really interesting. we will keep an eye on that ev brooke room. we will show you a picture of it right now. he is still not out. i am curious as the most prominent member of that committee and flirted with running for governor and has a national pro time. what he is going to tell the assembled press and the american public inside that briefing room, we will go there. meanwhile, it is primary day in seven states. what could cause a major upset

in two of the nation's most progressive cities? plus, three arizona police officers are placed on leave after they watch a man drown. you know what, we are actually not going to break. never mind. we're going to go to mathew mcconaughey in the press room. >> we asked mathew mcconaughey to speak on an you are just a minute issue our nation is currently facing. you may know mathew as an actor, more importantly, he is a father, a native of uvalde, texas and a gun owner. he is here today to use his platform to call on leaders to take bipartisan action to end this senseless killing and pass reasonable gun responsibility measures that we know will save lives. just a few minutes ago, mathew met briefly with the president to talk about the importance of taking action, keeping our

community safe. but without further ado, i will leak to bring up mathew. >> thank you. >> there you go. >> thank you. thank you. thank you, kamila to make the loss of these lives matter. my wife and i, my wife and i spent most of last week on the ground with the families in uvalde, texas. we shared stories, tears and memories. the common thread independent of the anger and the confusion and sadness, it was the same. how can these families continue to honor these deaths by keeping the dreams of these children and teachers alive? again, how can the loss of these lives matter?

for what we honor and acknowledge the victims, we need to recognize that this time, it seems that something is different. there is a sense that perhaps there is a viable path forward, responsible poerts in this debate seem to at least be committed to sitting down and having a conversation about a new and improved path forward. a path that can bring us closer together and make us safer as a country a. path that can actually get something done this time. kamila and i came here to share my stories from my hometown uvalde, to take meetings with elected officials on both side of the aisle. we came here to speak to them, with them and to urge them to speak with each other. to remind and inspire them that the american people will continue to drive forward. the mission of keeping our children safe. because it's more than our right to do so. it's our responsibility to do

so. i am here today in hopes of applying what energy, reason and passion i have and to try to turn this moment into a reality. because as i said, this moment is different. we are in a window of opportunity right now that we have not been in before. a window where it seems like real change, real change can happen. uvalde, texas is where i was born. it's where my mom taught kindergarten less than a mile from robb elementary. uvalde is where i learned to master a daisy bee-bee gun. that took two years before i graduated to afford a 410 shotgun. uvalde is where i was taught to revere the power and the capability of the tool that we call a gun. uvalde is where i learned responsible gun ownership.

and uvalde called me on may 24th when i learned the news of this devastating tragedy difficult. i had been out of cellular range working in the studio all day when i emerged about messages about a mass shooting in the town i was born in flood my inbox. in a whit of shock, i drove home. my children a bit longer and tireder than the night before and in reality what had happened that day in the town i was born in and set in. so the next morning, camille loo and myself, we loaded up the truck and drove to uvalde. when we arrived a few hours later, i tell you, even from the inside of our vehicle, you could feel the shock in town. you could feel the pain, the denial, the disillusion, anger, blame, sadness, loss of lives, dreams halted. we saw ministries. we saw first responders, counselors, cooks, families,

trying to grieve without it being on the front page news. we met with the local funeral director and countless morticians who hadn't slept since the massacre the day before because they had been working 24/7 trying to handle so many bodies at once, so many little innocent bodies who had their entire lives yet to live. that is there that we met two of the grieving parents, ryan and jessica ramirez. their 10-year-old daughter a alicia, she was one of the 19 children killed the day before. now alith yeah her dream was to go to art school in paris and one day share her art with the world. they're eager to share it with us. said if we can shire it somehow maybe that would make her smile in heaven. they told us showing someone

else her art was in some way keep her alive. now this particular drawing is a self portrait of her drawing with her friend in heaven looking down on her drawing the very same picture. her mother said of this drawing. she said, you know, we never really talked to her about heaven before, but somehow she knew. alitha was ten-years-old. her father ryan, this man was steady. he was uncommonly together and calm when a friend of his came up and said how are you so calm? i'd be going to crazy. ryan told him, no, you wouldn't, you'd be strong for your wife and kid because if they see you go crazy, that will not help. just a week prior, ryan got a

full-time line job stringing power lines from pole-to-pole and every day since landing that well-paying full-time job, he reminded his daughter, girl, daddy going to spoil you now. he told her every single night. he said, daddy is going to take you to seaworld one day. he didn't get to spoil his daughter alithia. she did not get to go to seaworld. we also met anna and denillo the mom and stepdad of 9-year-old marte rodriguez. maite wanted to be a marine biologist. she was already in contact with corpus christy a&m for future college enrollment.

9-years-old. she cared for the environment so strongly that when the city asked her mother if they could release some balloons in the sky in her memory. her mom said, oh, no, she wouldn't want to litter. maite wore high top converse with a heart she had hand drawn on the right toe because they represented her love of nature. kamila's got these shoes. you can show these shoes please? wore these every day. pre converse with a heart on the right toe. these are the same green converse on her feet that turned out to be the only clear evidence that they could identify her at the shooting. how about that? maite wrote a letter, her mom said her letter could help someone accomplish her dream, but then her death would have an

impact and it would mean her dying had a point and was it pointless. that it would make the loss of her life matter. the letter reads, marine biologists, i want to pass school to get to a learning college. my dream college is in corpus christi by the ocean. i need to live next to the ocean because i want to be a marine biologist. marine biologists study animals and the water. most of the time i will be in a lab, sometimes i will be on tv. then there was elly garcia, a 10-year-old and her parents stephen and jennifer. elly loved to dance and she loved church. she even knew how to drive tractors and was already working with her dad and uncle mow

yards. elly was always giving of her gifts, her time, even half eaten food on her plate. they said. so around the house, we called her the great regifter. smiling through tears, her family told us howelly loved to embrace. said she was the biggest hugger in the family. elly was born catholic but had been going to dal pontist church with her uncle the last couple of years. her mom and dad were proud of her because they said she was learning to love god no matter where. a week prior to her passing, she had been preparing to read a verse from the bible for the next wednesday night's church service. the verse was from the deuteronomy 6:5. thou shalt love the lord thy god

with all their soul and all their might. that's who elly was becoming. but she never got to read it. service on a wednesday night. then there was a fairy tale love story of a teacher named irma and her husband joe. what a great family this was. this was an amazing family. kamila and i we sat with 20 of their family members in the living room, along with the four kids. 23, 19, 15 and 13. they shared all these stories about irma and joe. served the community. they would host all these parties and how they were planning on getting a food truck together when they soon retired. they were humble, hard working people. irma was a teacher who her family said went above and beyond and just couldn't say no

to any kind of teaching. joe had been commuting to and from work 70 miles away in del rio for years. together they were the glue of the family. both worked overtime to support the four kids. irma even worked every summer when school was out. the money she had made two summers ago paid to paint the front of the house. the money she made last summer paid to paint the side of the house. this summer's work was going to pay to pain in the back of the house. er irma was one of the teachers gunned down in the classroom. joe, her husband, literally died of heartache the very next day when he had a heart attack.

they never got to paint the back of the house. they never got to retire. and they never got to get that food truck together. we also met a cosmetologist. she was well versed in mortuary makeup. that itself the task of making the victims appear as peaceful and natural as possible for their open casket viewings. these bodies were very different. they needed much more than makeup to be presentable. they needed extensive restoration. why? due to the exceptionally large exit wounds of an ar-15 rifle. most of the bodies so mute late that only dna tests or green

converse could identify them. many children were left not only dead but hollow. so, yes, counsellors are going to be needed in uvalde for a long time. couplers are needed in all these places where these mass shooters have been for a long time. i was told by many that it takes a good year before people even understand what to do next. even then, when they come secure enough to take the first step forward lifetime is not going to heal those wounds. again, you know what every one of these parents wanted, what they asked us for? what every parent separately expressed in their own way to kamila and me. that they want the children's dreams to live on. that they want their children's

dream to continue to accomplish something after they are gone. they want to make their loss of life matter. we heard from so many people. all right. families of the deceased. mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, texas rangers, hunters, border patrol and responsible gun owners who won't give up their second amendment rights to bear arms. you know what they all said? we want secure and safe schools and gun laws that won't make it so easy for the bad guys to get these dam guns. so, we know it's on the table. we need to invest in mental health care. we need safer schools, restrain sensationalize media coverage. we need to restore our family values. we need to restore our american

values and we need responsible gun ownership. responsible gun ownership. we need background checks. we need to raise the minimum age to purchase an ar-15 rifle to 21. we need a waiting period for those rifles. we feed red flag laws and consequences for those who abuse them. these are reasonable, practical, tactical regulations to our nation, states, communities, schools and homes. responsible gun owners are fed up with the second amendment being abused and hijacked by some deranged individuals. these regulations are not a step back. they're a step forward for civil society and the second amendment. is it a cure-all?

hell no the people are hurting. families are, parents are. and look as divided as our country is this gun responsibility issue is one we agree on more than we don't. it really is. but this should be a fawn partisan issue. this should not be a partisan issue. there is not a democratic or a republican value in one single act of these shooters. there is not. but people in power have failed to act. so we're asking you, and i am asking you, will you please ask yourselves, can both sides rise above? can both sides see beyond the political problem at hand and admit that we have a life preservation problem on our hands?

we have a chance right now to reach for and to grasp a higher ground above our political affiliations. a chance to make the choice that does more than protect your party. a chance to make a choice that protects our country, now and for the next generation. we got to take a sober, humble and honest look in the mirror and rebrand ourselves based on what we truly value. what we truly value. we got to get through real courage and honor our immoral obligations instead of our party affiliations. enough of the counterpunching. enough of the invalidation of the other side. come to the common table that represents the american people. find a middle ground, a place where most of us americans live anyway. especially on this issue. i promise you, america, you and me who, we are not as divide as

we are being told we are. no how about getting inspired? give ourselves just cause to revere our future again? maybe set an example for our children, give us reason to tell them, hey, listen and watch these men and women. these are great american leaders right here. i hope you grow up to be like them. and let's admit it, we can't truly be leaders if we're only living for re-election. let's be knowledgeable and wise and act on what we truly believe. again, we got to look in the mirror, lead with humility. acknowledge the values that are inherent to but also above politicss. we got to make choices, make stands and embrace new ideas and preserve the traditions that can

create true, true progress for the next generation. with real leadership. let's start giving us, all of us with real leadership. let's start giving all of us good reason to believe that the american dream is not an illusion. so where do we start? we start from making the right choices on the issue that is in front of us today. we start by making laws that save instant lives and don't infringe on our second amendment rights. we start right now by voting to pass policies that can keep us from having as many columbines, sandy hooks, parkland's, los vegass buffalo's and uvaldes from here on. we start by giving alithia, a chance to be spoiled by her dad,

we start by giving maite a chance to become a marine biologist, we start by giving elly a chance to read her bible verse at the wednesday night service. we start by giving irma and joe a chance to finish painting their house. maybe retire. get that food truck. we start by giving mckenna, leyla, jose, xavier, tests eliana, jayla, eva, anne marie and lexi, we start by giving all of them a hard promise their dreams are not going to be forgotten. we start by making the loss of

these lives matter. thank you. >> are you 2k3wr57bd grandstanding? >> i'm not sure who asked him if he was grandstanding. those were powerful words from mathew mcconaughey there. we were there live, cnn was and so was fox news. all right. so mathew mcconaughey, there, he is from uvalde. it was notable. he said he grew up learning how to shoot a gun. first a bebe gun then a shotgun. he said he learned to revere guns when he was growing up in uvalde. but he also learned how to be responsible with a gun. he went through and he told

stories from the families that he spoke with who lost their children in that massacre. heart wrenching stuff about how one little girl wanted to go to seaworld. her father was excited to take her there. he got a new job and had the money for it, never got to take her to seaworld. another little girl weaker green converse with a hart that she through an her toe, known for these green converse because she loved nature. that was the only way they could identify her after the shooting. lots of stuff there. he had been, mathew mcconaughey, reluctant before now to, it seemed at least to take a real strong stance on gun control measures. his statements had been relatively vague. here he was at the white house podium speaking beyond republicans and democrats but to americans and governors and saying this stuff that we are talking about is not

controversial. it's not divisive. everybody agrees with this. basically, everybody agrees with this. it's time for politicians to see past their own re-election. their own jobs and to do something that will make the country safer for our kids. he said, gun for our kids. they would like to see a crazy person with a gun not infringe on their rights, or so that they're not painting everybody with a gun as a bad person, irresponsible. he said, responsible gun ownership, background checks, pretty much everyone agrees with that, a minimum age for an assault rifle. a waiting period for high -- i got confused on this one -- for large amounts of ammunition, red flag laws, and also consequences for those who abuse this. he said they should not be a

partisan issue at all. if you go back to the "new york times" article that i referenced earlier, there are key four gun-control provisions being considered. if the four -- four of the gunmen in the matt shootings since 1999, four of them were under 21, they could have been blocked from legally buying the rifles they used. at least four of the assailants would have been required to a background check. ten might have been able to steal the weapons because of efforts to require or encourage safer gun storage, and 20 would not have been able to buy large-capacity -- those four measures would have stopped 35 shootings, in those 35 shootings

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have much of a chance in los angeles against somebody like karen bass. why is it different now? karen bass would say there's 40 million reasons. she had shored up democratic support early in this race. there's a world in which we're talking about political inches we're not even having this conversation, because she's vice president, she was that close to become selected by joe biden but this is a woman who's been in california politics for decades. she led south l.a. out of the crack epidemic, let them out of the riots in '90, and she's been a reformer for so long. she was top bill, and in come rick caruso, blanketing the entire market with

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neither expecting to get to the 50% needed for a runoff. >> steve, thank you very much. that's an interesting race. i will be watching it. hallie jackson picks up our coverage next. hallie jackson picks up our coverage next. ♪♪ that new push from the white house at the white house. new details on the timeline for possibly votes on gun reform laws. if you watched live the last few minutes, the emotional push from matthew mcconaughey, how he's now getting involved, that after a meeting with president biden and senator chris murphy over discussions on capitol hill. some survivors give an earful to the city council today ahead of a hearing tomorrow. also, new details ahead of thursday's primetime hearing of