neither expecting to get to the 50% needed for a runoff. >> steve, thank you very much. that's an interesting race. i will be watching it. hallie jackson picks up our coverage next. hallie jackson picks up our coverage next. ♪♪ that new push from the white house at the white house. new details on the timeline for possibly votes on gun reform laws. if you watched live the last few minutes, the emotional push from matthew mcconaughey, how he's now getting involved, that after a meeting with president biden and senator chris murphy over discussions on capitol hill. some survivors give an earful to the city council today ahead of a hearing tomorrow. also, new details ahead of thursday's primetime hearing of

the january 6th committee. that house committee is still at work. one of "the washington post" reporters behind the latest january 6th scoop will join us. plus, for the first time we're learning of the secret scramble on the day of the insurrection, prompted by something president trump said and something the house committee is now investigating. also, the race to lead the country's second biggest city going down to the wire, a billionaire businessman up against someone who at one point was reportedly on the short list for president biden's vp. we have a lot to get to. i want to bring in garrett haake, along with white house correspondent carol lee. i want to start with you, cara. at times briefings can be somewhat lighthearted. now this one. matthew mccoy hi had a very

clear and emotional message not just to the audience in the briefing room, but presumably the audience watching live across the country. >> that's right, hallie, he made an impassioned plea to pass legislation his wife was there. she was holding sneakers of one of the victims who wanted to be a marine biologist when she grew up. he really said this was a time for congress not to think about their next election, but to think about doing something larger than themselves. that's part of what he said. he said, make the loss of these lives matter. so we've seen a lot of action here at the white house today, in terms of the president trying to get behind and push for some sort of gun regulation, legislation. he med with senator murphy. you saw matthew mcconaughey come

out. as for the talks in congress and where the white house fits in, the president had this meeting. it was private. there was not press coverage, but senator murphy said he appreciated that the president was giving lawmakers the space to make some of these decisions on what legislation ultimately might be able to reach his desk. take a listen to that. >> >> we had a good conversation. obviously we still have work to do in the senate. i'm grateful the white house is giving us the space necessary to get a deal done. my goal is to try to get an agreement this week. >> reporter: president biden said he would like more significant pieces of legislation to pass, that are likely to pass. however he's demonstrated he might be willing to compromise

and accept something less. the question is what exactly does that look like. >> i want to play one of matthew mcconaughey's emotional moments. >> she wore green converse high tops, with a heart, because they represented her love of nature. she wore these every day, green converse, with a heart off right together. these are the same green converse on her feet that seemed to be the only clear evidence that could identify her after the shooting. how about that? >> garrett, what he laid out and the arguments are not until new, but the way he did it, right. >> and, of course, the

family-''s a uvalde native gives this moment in extra -- >> i was at that notification when all the parents were getting news that mcconaughey was talking about there. it's one of the most horrible things i've ever had to cover. you heard the emotion from him that i heard from so many there that night, and the days afterwards about how special -- personal and how horrifies what happened was it may take the additional pressure over the next week or so at minimum to push these across the finish line. >> what you heard from chris murphy there, what you heard from other lawyers, the senate has to figure this out. there's nothing that joe biden can do to help or nancy pelosi, or anybody who's not that group of maybe a dozen senators having these conversations about what they can get across the finish

line. but being reminded of the human cost and the idea that failure is not an option going forward is the kind of thing that gives someone like senator schumer, whose press conference i just left, they're going to give the negotiators a little more time. the previous ten-day timeline doesn't matter if they're close and keep getting closer, which is what chris murphy told us today. so, then, what are the chances by the end of the week we may have more clarity? >> i think more clarity -- it doesn't mean more likelihood of success but more specifically what we're talking about. we know a couple buckets. they've been talking about strengthening, if not expanding background checks. maybe sure a person's juvenile

report is included. senator cornyn believes if authorities had done a background chex on his juvenile record, he never would have gotten a gun. the other pieces of it, frankly some of the pieces that republicans are interested in, like expanding access to mental health care, improving school security, those are pretty vague buckets. those are the key elements to see if enough republicans can be brought along. if senator murphy signs off on anything, he's going to get 50 democrats on this bill. they're not going to walk away from even a small step forward. getting the ten republicans is still the entire ball game here when it comes to getting something to the president's desk. >> when we're talking about the emotion over gun reform and the discussion, we heard from one of the family members from a

buffalo victim. >> reporter: i think these hearings serve much of the same purpose in moving legislation, as did matthew mcconaughey's appearance. they remind people this is not a theoretical exercise e. >> this was an act of a person, and he did not act alone. he was radical iced by white supremacists, and hate metastasized by people with big microphones in high places. my mother's life mattered. your actions here today will tell you how much it matters to you. >> reporter: the end result is still the same, another life

lost by an 18-year-old gunman shooting an assault-style weapon. the emotions in these hearings can sometimes come and go, about you on that committee is senator cornyn, chuck grassley, lindsey graham, thom tillis, who would be in the mix. that emotion could matter. >> thank you, garrett. we'll go to uvalde later in the show. in the first primetime hearing thursday,ali vitali is on collection, and ana palmer, punchlocal news founder, and msnbc contributor. ali, more witnesses have been interviewed by the panel ahead of this primetime hearing set to happen thursday night. >> more witnesses interviewed by

the panel, giving us more inside, then go into primetime. now finally on thursday, that moment is here. we're learning from politico that they have talked with the head of the secret service detail for former president donald trump that day, again lending insight into the committee is focused on what the former president was doing and in the critical hours while the capitol was under siege. based on the witness list that we know of this point, we know there will be a documentary filmmaker who was embedded at that point with the proud boys at the capitol. we'll also hear a capitol

policewoman who was injured that day. officers tell me they remember her calling out on the road. this is how she remembered january 6th. >> me and a couple officers by tearing down, you know, our barricade and then the fight on the west front began. when somebody shows me footage of the 6th, i have to have them turn off the sound. that sound, that screaming, that just constant -- i -- i can't hear it. it takes me back to a very bad place. >> for the officer there, you hear her talking about the screaming that takes her back, but the sound is one of the things i've heard from from lawmakers i've before viewed, congresswoman jacobs, i spoke to her about her remembrances. she says for her, the gas mask, the hood they had to wear had a buzzing sound that she can't

listen to the sound from that day without feeling like she's taken back to those harrowing moments. it's a get reminder just how traumatic it would be for the people. >> carol, talk to us about the new reporting about donald trump and the secret service. we're now learning this scramble by the secret service, after the former president suggested had he would join the marchers on that day, the plan for the motorcade. >> that's right. two stunning things i learned from my great colleagues here at the "the washington post," found almost two weeks before january 6th, donald trump was pressing repeatedly agitating, please, please, please with his white

house staff to be able to walk/drive, and in some way join the march on the capitol, the march to the capitol on january 6th. >> everybody said it was always spontaneous, there wasn't a permit to watch, but for who weeks president trump was pushing his aides for the idea he could ride up or join the march with his supporters, as they joined him in his quest to keep the reins of power. the second thing we learned after the secret service pooh-poohed this idea, repeatedly told senior staff, we're not going to do this, secret service agents began scrambling like crazy to arrange

a security motorcade for donald trump on january 6th, when he, to their surprise, announced in his speech he was going to wack -- walk up to the capitol with his supporters. >> ryan, we're talking about who is speaking to the panel, who's going to be speaking. you have some new reporting that a british documentary maker is going to be a key witness on thursday night. >> you have the head of the proud boys, in this impromptu meeting. this is sort of a meeting that came up at the moment when tallio was discharged from the jail, but there's also video

showing some of these brutal attacks on law enforcement that i think will be compelling for people. nick quest is an accomplished filmmaker, and also a director from some famous rap videos. so i think he's hoping, to borrow a phrase, pack more -- >> well done there. there's been promises this will be new and explosive nerve. explain the challenge ahead for this committee trying to make this case in primetime. they certainly aren't day it will be just business as usual

on capitol hill. they say they're expecting this to say pretty explosive. this is their one time to make the case to the american people, in potential as many as six hearings, in terms of what the president knew, was this a conspiracy, who else might have known, and they're putting together a lot of bread crumbs here, and we're starting to hear who these witnesses are going to be, but i think there will be big information revealed. my question is, whether this change people's minds? whether or not they'll get through to folks, that will be their big test. >> carol, this is some reporting from politico that the january 6th committee has talked to

robert engle, the head of the secret service. can you explain who he is and how you see this fitting into the upcoming hearing? >> i find this detail important. for a lot of people it's a small detail, but historically for the secret service, it's a whopping big deal. the leader of the president's detail is basically one doughnut box away from the president's shoulder. he's literally on the president's shoulder at all times. what socks on to socks off, from the time the protectee gets out of the bed to the time he goes back to bed. that person is privy, though all kept in confidence, very privy to all the conversations that the president is having. not every minute, let's be clear. when the president has private telephone calls, his detail

leader isn't there, but walking two and from the motorcade. heading to the ellipse, when he's heading down to say hello to his family, and back to the office, those are conversations that engle would have heard. the committee has asked the secret service for a lot of documents. they want to know did they get dragged into something political? did they witness something beyond what the president has admitted already? what did the president know? what was he and what were he and hi allies discussing about what was possible that day, what was likely to happen? he basically believed he would be able to join this march and

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jake ward in san francisco. this is something that's getting a lot of attention around the country. in many ways it's seen as a microcosm of push and pill. rick caruso is only nearly a democrat. he switched his affiliation a few years back. >> reporter: we're still in the in a moment. you can see karen bass is voting, as we speak. she has entered maybe about 15, 20 minutes ago with a young member, it appears, to be there for the first time seeing justice? action -- she's been a longtime

california democrat. he reformed so much of this city when it comes to crime. six terms in congress. just really established the party fully behind her, and then in comes rick caruso, the billionaire who has spent so much money in this race, $40 million of his own fortuned ads are everywhere. that has been her challenge and the reason he's shot up in the polls, and the reason they are almost neck and neck, and neither one expected to reach that 50%. this has been a battle about the issues in california, specifically los angeles. the crime rate over the past two years, violent crime has shot up. the affordable housing crisis here, it is very difficult to find a home anywhere in the city that's even less than ridiculous. the homeless crisis, though, is what both candidates tell me is

their number one issue. they're looking at 40,000 to 50,000 people unhoused, the majority of those still on the street. they're trying to figure out a solution. rick caruso is coming in really as the change candidate, saying he'll bring in a new look, and that's why people are buying into his message. karen bass is a known entity. she's been here forever. she is the know-how candidates who has connections in sacramento, in d.c., in the oval office. so that's the choice. i think people are sort of deciding in this midterm -- and it's another decision they'll have to make during the general election. this is not anywhere near done, as voting continues here. you see karen bass casting her ballot. rick caruso should be voting in

about an hour, and we'll try to catch that. >> if you get to rick caruso, we will take that, too. jacob, you're in san francisco, where there's a d.a. recall race. let me stay here, because it looks like she's heading out. i can't tell geographically where your camera person is, but i know you're close. i want to let you do your thing here, as she walks out after casting her ballot. go ahead. >> reporter: i'm right in front of here. i cannot speak to her. i'm not allowed. >> good to know. >> reporter: yes, just so you know, her campaign is very, very clear about that, but you see her meeting and greeting people here at the mall. this is her district. >> okay. >> reporter: you can see her face in all window sills around

this area, very known to the public here. we will kind of follow her. hello, hello. you can see she cannot talk to me at this point. we'll ask her a few questions as she comes out with her party here. you know, again somebody who has been known in this area for so long, somebody so important to this city, and to not only, you know obviously city council, but the state assembly, and of course her connection to congress. congresswoman how do you feel? >> i feel good. >> reporter: how was voting? >> you know what? i was very impressed, very nice system they have here. >> reporter: your opponent has spent a lot of money in this race. >> yes, he has. >> reporter: $40 million to his $3 million. where do you think you're at? >> we, neck and neck, as a

matter of fact, according to the poll, i'm a couple points ahead. i don't believe that city hall is up for sale. >> what is your message about crime? so many people worried about cream here, as well as homeless here. >> we absolutely have to. >> congresswoman, your message to the people of l.a. >> first of all, we have to get people off the streets immediately into temporary housing. then we have to address the reasons they were unhoused to begin with. there's just some things you don't do on the streets. however, i believe deeply we can't have superficial solutions by like moving them from one neighborhood to the next or arresting them. if we did that, they would be in jail three days and then back

out. we have to make a commitment this situation has to end. in terms of crime there are some neighborhoods who want an increased presence, and they should do that. the way i would get is move them from behind the desk and have them on the street. we note to hire 200 to 400 officers to reach what l.a. can afford. so i would also recruit officers. i know that's a longer process. crime is a problem, but i also want to invest serious resources in preventing crime. stop the crimes of today, prevent the crimes of tomorrow. >> reporter: congresswoman, thank you very much. she's talking about the lapd staffing. it's dipped below 9300. this is a city that's used to 10,000 officers on the street. so we'll learn more as we go today. sending it back to you.

>> steve patterson, we'll look for you to do a replay, if you will, where rick caruso later. there's an umbrella i think cast over these, and this idea of crime that's out of control. how are critics responding to that? >> we d.a. bodine promised to rewrite the story that we've been talking about since the '50s, because he basically says those tactics don't work. he basically created a new system, based on his experience as a public defender. he's part of this long new line of reformest d.a.s we're seeing.

now his detractors include former prosecutors that worked for him. i have spoken with brooke jenkins, whose name is on the possible short list that the mayor may call upon to replace him, but have a listen to what she says and what he said when we spoke to him. have a listen. >> most voters didn't understand when he said that he was going to work to end mass incarceration that that simply meant all consequences for crimes went out of the door. >> there have been 28,000 fewer reported crimes than in the 2 1/2 years before i took office, yet crime has changed. different neighborhoods are impacted, different stakeholders and constituents are experiencing crime in way they may have not experienced before. >> reporter: the acextract numbers are not really in the

end of issue. it's the on the ground experience of voters here. as d.a. bodine mentioned there, auto theft is one of the top categories, that touches every category and economic strata of the city. he's suffering from a terrible lack of cooperation from the san francisco police department, which as openly spoken of real tension between his office, one that predates his time here, but right now there's a literal lack of cooperation between the two. so we really are looking at this big picture of real dysfunction when it comes to law enforcement and prosecution here in san francisco. the question now becomes, does this become a referendum on progressive justice reform across the country? the d.a. definitely argues this is within the playbooks of law

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directed at your regional airlines. those guys often fly under the banner of united or delta to smaller cities, and we have seen a shortage of pilots to fill the positions at the smaller regional why? because pilots who flew for those airlines have taken jobs with the main line carriers, american, delta, and united southwest. why have they taken jobs there? because during the pandemic there were about 10,000 pilots who took early retirement as the airlines had to cut their costs dramatically. and as a result, you just have a gap in the openings that are there, and they're primarily at those regional levels, and that's why you're really seeing the pain with those flights into smaller cities, places like twin falls, idaho, williamsport, pennsylvania. >> so what's the solve and when will this end? because it's not as though you can snap your fingers and hire even more pilots who aren't pilots previously. >> correct, takes 1,500 hours to

become a first officer and then more hours to become a captain. it's going to take some time, hallie. i know that's not the answer people want to hear. it will take time to build up the kind of backlog or bench, if you will, so that when airlines have a storm, have pie lots who are out of position, that there's slack in the system. there's no slack right now, and that's why when you see cancellations and people are saying, why aren't there pilots available, it's because they're so tightly scheduled right now, and that's why the airlines have brought back their schedules a little bit this summer. >> phil laboe from cnbc, thanks. to uvalde, texas, now, and the aftermath of that massacre that stole the lives of 21 people, 19 kids, two teachers. the mayor there holding a meeting with the uvalde city council facing questions from reporters and from angry families over how this could have happened, and for the first time also today, a teacher who was inside one of the classrooms that was attacked is speaking to "good morning america" over on

abc news. watch. >> i told myself -- i told my kids to act like they're asleep, so i'm going to act like i'm asleep also, and i prayed and prayed that i would not hear none of my students talk. >> you thought you were going to die? >> yes, ma'am. >> i want to bring in nbc news correspondent guad venegas. i'm struck by something else that teacher said, which is he says he will never forgive the police officer who is he said he could hear outside the classroom. it is that kind of anger and frustration that we are seeing from people in uvalde at this pretty tense city council meeting today. >> reporter: >> hallie, that is correct. this was a meeting where they had to get together, the city council members, and extend the order for another 30 days. the mayor spoke in this meeting about the investigation, but what he said is that he does not have any new information on the

investigation. this is part of what the major said when he was in that meeting. >> well, we were told one thing one day, and the next day the narrative changed. we were told for a week that a teacher propped the door open with a rock, and at the end of the week that story was gone too. that's the missteps i'm talking about. look, i'm not here to try this. we want facts and answers just like everybody else. >> reporter: the mayor added that because he is not law enforcement, he was asked to stay out of it. he also said that he expects that by tomorrow the doj will appoint a team that will conduct a separate investigation into what happened, and i should say that it's been about a week since texas state authorities gave any briefing about the official investigation, hallie. >> guad venegas live for us in uvalde, thank you for being there for us appreciate. there's some news now from the world of politics, the latest in the fake electors plot to undercut the 2020 election result. "the post" is reporting a

staffer from former president trump's campaign asked republicans who were voting in the electoral college for georgia in 2020 to cast ballots for former president trump in secrecy. there's a lot that is kind of problematic to say the least with that statement because, first of all, president biden is the one who won georgia by more than 10,000 votes, casting their ballot for the former president, and then there's the question of doing it in secret. why? if there was nothing wrong with it, why go through such extraordinary lengths to high what you're doing. a trump spokesperson declined "the washington post" request for comment. fani willis continues her investigation into the push to disqualify and overturn the election results in georgia after losing that state in 2020. joining us now is "washington post" reporter.

take us through your reporting. >> this was an email that we obtained that was sent by a top staffer for the campaign in georgia to the people who had agreed to serve as electors for donald trump should he have been elected in the state. of course he was not elected in the state, but this was an email asking them to go ahead and go to the state capitol on the appointed day to act as electors and declare themselves as duly appointed. what was interesting about the email is how strongly it stressed in several different places a need for total secrecy and total discretion. it even instructed them to tell security guards at the state capitol that they were there on scene to see some particularly named state senators and not reveal to even security guards the true reason why they had shown up. >> georgia republican leadership like the head of the georgia gop david shaeffer said they were transparent. there's a little interview on fox 5 atlanta, a little video clip that you referenced, actually, in your piece.

here it is. >> georgia republican party chair david shaeffer says they cast the votes just in case president trump's fulton county lawsuit contesting the election results prevails. >> in order for that lawsuit to remain viable, we were required to hold this meeting to preserve his rights. >> worth reiterating president biden won georgia by more than 10,000 votes legitimately. what else do we know about this effort? >> yeah, so this happened in seven different swing states where trump electors showed up, even though joe biden had won. we now know that this was absolutely directed by the campaign at the top levels, and you know, as that clip shows, once they got in the state capitol, at least in georgia, it was a fairly open process. they had news cameras in the room. david shaeffer as you mentioned gave that interview afterward, but this idea that they were told that they could not tell anyone about it in advance is really interesting.

we suspect that that is one reason why not just the georgia d.a. who you referenced is investigating this, but the federal department of justice is doing so as well. >> talk about that fulton county d.a. because your reporting says she's also investigating whether the appointment of these fake trump electors broke state law according to some of your sources. explain the link between her investigation and this reporting here. >> we know that that d.a.'s investigation has been ongoing for quite a while, and she's looking at a number of different things, not just this elector. in some respect, the one that feels as though it might be heating up a little bit is the fbi and the justice department. our reporting also shows that there are a number of people involved with this effort who have received recent subpoenas from the justice department and been requested for interview, in particular there were a group of people who were supposed to be trump electors but didn't show up that day, either because they had some kind of conflict or in some cases because they actually refused. they didn't think it was appropriate, and it seems as though the fbi and the justice

department is starting with those folks asking them for interviews and documents, and then we'll see, maybe expanding out to the people who, in fact, served as trump electors. >> rosalind helderman. >> thanks to all of you for watching this hour of msnbc. "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace starts right after a quick break. nicolle wallace starts right nicolle wallace starts right after a quick break. think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. so this is the meta portal plus. a smart video calling device that makes working from home, work. it syncs with your favorite vc apps so you'll never miss a meeting. and neither will she.

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hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. riding in on a wave of fury and grief, uvalde native and activist matthew mcconaughey stood before the podium of the briefing room, so named for another victim of gun violence, and delivered remarks that were part eulogy for the young victims of the uvalde school massacre and part rallying cry to the nation to demand action on gun safety. mcconaughey grew emotional as he toldto