recalls what caused paisley's death and whether or not was he killed or had he been working as a mole in the cia. >> it sort of is a snapshot of what was going on during the cold war. the book is called "the spy who knew too much." you've got to read the book. howard bloom, congratulations. thanks for being here. >> thank you for having me. it's the top now of the fourth hour of "morning joe." as calls grow louder for lawmakers to take action on gun safety, we are just one hour away from a key hearing by the

house oversight committee on gun violence. there have been nearly 250 mass shootings happening nationwide so far this year and the hearing takes place just weeks after the mass shooting in buffalo, new york and uvalde, texas. a fourth grader who covered herself in blood and played dead to survive the massacre is also scheduled to attend the hearing. caroline maloney from new york is here. what can we expect to hear during the hearings? >> this can be an opportunity to listen to people who know more

about gun violence than anybody, because they've experienced it. a mother lost her son doing his job in buffalo. an 11-year-old girl saw her teachers and fellow students murdered. it would be a parent who was just celebrating making the honor role. hours later a pediatrician lost five of his patients in one day. we hope their heart wrenching stories will open the minds and hearts of the members of congress to vote for the protecting our kids act, which would move forward some form of gun safety. 250 mass shootings is too much and we stand alone in it. if guns made people safer, we'd be the safest country on earth

and we are far from it. >> sometimes testimony does not move the meter for republicans on gun safety measures and any type of measures that might pull back restraints on assault weapons or raise the age. what will be different today and what do you say to your republican counter parts who have not done anything. the argument we've heard from some senators is, well, they're already out there and they're needed to kill. >> this time we're going to keep on trying until we pass it. the american public overwhelmingly supports common sense gun safety measures. let's hope the representatives

also hold the same belief. finally, they need to be held accountable in elections. we have to change this. we stand alone. other countries do not have mass shootings like we have. we have more than any other country by far. it's because we have not acted on gun safety measures. personally i don't think our package goes far enough. we should ban these assault weapons. they're weapons of war. they belong on the battlefield, not in the schools where our children play and work. it's a scandal. it needs to stop and we need to start acting in every way possible, the press, the congress, communities to hold people accountable for their votes and continue to press for sensible gun safety laws, which every other country in the world has put in place. we stand alone with the number of deaths, 40,000 in one year, 250 mass shootings.

other countries don't have any because they have sensible gun safety laws. thank you for having us and thank you for speaking about it. it's important that you share these stories with the public. >> we look forward to what will be painful testimony, but important as well. the public agrees with you overwhelmingly if you look at polling. yet, republicans won't go there with you. you've been on the hill for some time. you understand what you'd like to get and what's reasonable to expect to get. what is reasonable? what do you think can get through congress right now in terms of gun reform laws? >> i was at a meeting this morning with senator schumer. the bill will pass in the house today. it will go to the senate. there is a committee working on

trying to come forward with a package that can pass the senate. he is giving it everything he has. we are backing him up. the american people need to reach out to their senators and members of congress and urge them to do the right thing and pass sensible gun safety laws. i want to make clear that this does not in any way violate the second amendment of the constitution. we are supporting people who are law-abiding having a gun to defend themselves, but they don't need a machine gun. that belongs on the battlefield. as the pediatrician said, he could not even recognize his patients because the weapon was so extreme it destroyed any semblance of their beautiful lives. this is enough. we have to act. where is the political will? we as a nation need to come together to protect our children. other nations do not have the

challenge, the problem, the slaughter that we have in america. we know what to do. the solution is there. let's have sensible gun safety laws. let's pass them today and pass them in the senate too later. >> i know you need to get to that hearing. we will be watching along with you this morning. thanks for your time today. >> thank you. can we go back and look at the pictures of those beautiful young children again? because we talk about numbers too much. we talk about 19 or we talk about 240. it's just staggering. just look at their faces, each

one of them a beautiful child with a beautiful future ahead of them, extraordinary lives ahead of them. they wanted to be marine biologists. one girl wanted to go to sea world. we heard matthew mcconaughey speaking so movingly yesterday. each one of these children, each one of these teachers had a remarkable life. of course, the tragedy just continued to unfold. one teacher who was gunned down, her husband died of a heart attack, leaving four children as orphans after. i don't mean to keep going back to it, but you have people who are elected and get elected by 50% of the vote and they're afraid to do anything to stop the killing.

they're afraid to support universal background checks, which 9 out of 10 americans support. they're afraid to raise the age limit from 18 to 21. if you want a weapon of war, for a weapon of war, you have to wait until you're 21. they're even pushing back on red flag laws. show the faces again. they're even pushing back on red flag laws, which 8 out of 10 americans support. mika, you look at those lives. think about all of the love, all of the attention, all of the hopes and dreams their parents poured into these beautiful children every day. it's the same thing we saw at sandy hook. it's the same thing we saw at parkland. it's the same thing we saw in

buffalo. it's the same thing we see every day. i remind you as we look at these children that more children are killed every year by guns than u.s. troops are killed in combat, that more children are killed every year by guns than police officers are killed in the line of duty. you can even combine the deaths of police officers in the line of duty and the deaths of american troops in combat. doesn't come close to the number of children who were killed by guns. so why in the hell won't republican senators, even if they don't want to vote for what 90% of americans want them to vote for, why won't they let the senate vote?

vote it up or down on weapons of war for 18-year-olds. vote up or down for universal background checks or red flag laws. vote up or down for the senible gun safety measures that an overwhelming majority of americans support. it is obscene. >> it is obscene. i think when you put up the faces of these beautiful babies that were massacred, that were slaughtered and then you cut to the republicans talking about there are already guns out there or we need them to kill prairie dogs or ridiculous reasons an 18-year-old should have assault weapons. republicans, you can't walk away from these faces. you think you can say something trite and walk away and hope it

will be forgotten. here's the problem. there's going to be another one. >> we already have 240 this year. >> it might be in your district or it might be in your state. it might be coming to a public place near your constituents. so my hope for republican senators especially, who we heard from recently, but all members of the congress who are against gun reform go to uvalde, meet with those parents, look at the pictures, look at the video of that shooter slaughtering children in that school room, all clamoring for safety around their teachers as his assault weapon ripped them to pieces. you need to watch that. if you can't be moved because

trump has some grip on you or you can't be moved because you're afraid of the nra, the corrupt nra, you can't be moved by those pictures and those videos and those parents who have to live with those images from the rest of their lives, you shouldn't be in washington. and i think a lot of other things about you as well. >> you can look at second amendment rights, you can look at the constitution, you can look at case law, you can look at heller. it has nothing to do with second amendment rights. it's about public safe. it's about public safety sending your children to school or going to a theater with your family. it's about public safety if you're going to a grocery store.

it's about public safety if you're going to a country music festival. it's about public safety wherever you go. we moved so far beyond the trite political sham debate about second amendment rights being infringed if an 18-year-old lunatic can't buy weapons of war. no. this is an issue of public safety. we as a nation, we don't want 18-year-old lunatics to be able to go get weapons of war. we don't want criminals to be able to sell their guns to other criminals. we have to have universal ground checks. we need to raise the age of people that can buy these weapons of war. i think we need to regulate those weapons of war much more

dramatically, in a sense to make sure that just like when we give weapons to our troops that are fighting, that if you decide you have to have a weapon of war, well, you've got to go through some pretty dramatic training and you've got to keep it locked up when you're not using it. the penalties for those weapons getting into the wrong hands, the penalties for trafficking those weapons have to be extreme, they have to be severe. we have got to stop this plague on america and on public safety. >> that plague is the right word. i just stepped out for a minute to see my 12-year-old son off to his last day in school. this morning in capitol an 11-year-old girl is going to sit in front of congress and tell them about the moment she had to

play dead inside her fourth grade classroom and smear her body with the blood of her dead friend so she could play dead. no 11-year-old should have to live through that experience. it can't be the price of doing business in america. we can't let that happen. i hope our political leaders will help us get to a place where it doesn't happen anymore. let's bring in white house correspondent for politico eugene daniels, and cofounder of punch bowl news jake sherman. good morning to you both. jake, let me start with you because all the business is happening up on capitol hill. we have that hearing in a few minutes that we talked about with congresswoman maloney.

on the senate side, there's a lot list of gun related issues they're not talking about, that are not on the table, some focus perhaps on red flag laws, not a federal one, though. school safety, mental health. what else? >> reporter: they're talking about red flag laws incentivizing states to create red flag laws. one thing they're talking about is reworking some of the licensing requirements for people who sell guns but don't perform background checks, so-called hobbyists who sell weapons without background checks. i'm pretty confident at some point there will be a gun package that emerges from the senate. i've been a skeptic all along, meaning, i've always thought

it's a high hill to climb, but i do think it's going to happen this time around. but there are not the votes for raising that minute age for buying assault weapons in the senate. there's not the votes in the house for an assault weapons ban. the house is going to take a vote, though, on raising that age limit amid a host of other regulations this week. this could last through the entire month, perhaps into july. i really do think the leadership is giving, at least for the moment, the space to get this done. >> hey, eugene. it's jonathan. we were looking at the faces of the victims. they're not just numbers. they're little kids. one loved to play with play-doh, another one, her brother cries

every single day wondering why she doesn't come home. we know president biden has spoken powerfully about this, a speech at the white house one evening last week. since then, there seems to be a deliberate strategy for him to take a back seat to what's going on in congress. what is the white house's thinking there? will we see biden again perhaps as a closer, if you will, to try and get this over the finish line? >> president biden is allowing the group to do the work they said he was going to do. he is trying to stay out of it. aides say the president knows it might not be helpful for him to get involved in negotiations. they saw this during build back better, which died in december.

they're going to allow him to use the bully pulpit. they're going to allow other people to use the bully pulpit. matthew mcconaughey spoke passionately last week about this issue. you could feel the folks in the room. it affected all of us. you're watching a showing of the shoes the little girl was wearing when she was killed in helping to identify her body. if they continue to make the moral argument for this, that is where their best work is going to be done. as talks on the hill continue, you start to hear from aides that they're feeling more confident. first they said encouraged.

now they say confident. whatever this bill is, it may not not hit all of the notes that president biden laid out last week. they're hoping a little bit more, anything will show that things can be done in this country on guns and on this epidemic, this plague that you guys have been talking about and hopefully show to republicans that the world is not going to end if you vote for something to save more lives. that is something this white house is focused on, but i think they're staying out of it as quickly as they can. >> the elections that were held last night, it seems to me there's a through line on two extremes. you, of course, have trump, who

looks like somebody who voted to impeach trump is going to survive his primary and going to go into a tough battle in the general election. and then on the other side, another progressive loss in san francisco, just like we saw eric adams, an ex-cop who went out of his way to attack progressives, winning in new york city, a pretty liberal bastian. the same thing happened in san francisco. what's your take-away on those results and what do you think it means? >> two observations here. i would also point out that john thune, the number two senate republican, who trump said thune's career is over and he's mitch's boy, won with 70% of the

vote in south dakota. i find that interesting. as results were coming in in san francisco, i think the democrats by and large believe they're in for a bruising fall. this is all a harbinger of that and this is happening across the country. these have to be taken individually. you'll see some who voted for impeachment lose, but i think they have to be taken individually. >> eugene daniels and jake sherman, thank you both. for more, let's go to correspondent jake ward, live from san francisco. >> reporter: mika, good morning. we are looking here at stunning results. san francisco, as you know, had been a center of kiting edge criminal justice reform thanks to the progressive prosecutor

elected in 2019. now after a heavily funded recall and rising crime in this city and cities across the nation, san francisco voters have tossed him out of officer. the nation is watching. the progressive reforms that helped elect san francisco's district attorney in 2019 may have caused those same voters to toss him out of office last night. >> people should hold all of us to a higher standard. >> he pushes against what he calls mass incarceration. the successful recall vote was not a surprise. polls showed voters were concerned about a city in decline, homelessness and crime

up, homicides are up 11% this year, auto thefts touch every neighborhood. >> progressives are so wed to what they believe in that they won't listen to what people are telling them. >> lifelong liberal adam westnick is one of them. >> i've been robbed on mission street. i was jumped on 6th street. >> reporter: the owner of this san francisco shop says the d.a.'s politics are no match for crime in his city. >> the ideology happening now is dangerous for residents. >> the right wing billionaires outspend us 3-1. they exploited an environment in which people are appropriately upset. they created an electoral dynamic where we were shadow boxing. >> the top cop has failed. >> reporter: with this recall, d.a.'s in other cities nationwide are now on alert.

now, you guys, we're looking here at a place where the city has essentially tossed out someone who embodied their ideals. the supporters of bodine say rolling back 50 years was never going to be easy or politically popular. we spoke to voters here, many who say they voted to recall him because they simply felt he was not doing enough to fight crime. this is a real bellwether for other parts of the country. if you look at los angeles and chicago, both of whom facing possible recall efforts, you know they have to be watching this very closely. >> jake, it's so fascinating that he was elected in 2019. you look at stats for say new york city, in 2017, 2018, 2019,

you had crime rates at 50-year lows. so i think a lot of voters, not just progressives, but a lot of independents and swing voters said things have changed so dramatically, we can take these chances on criminal justice reform. then of course 2020 happened, covid happened. suddenly, my gosh, the situation is starting to look in places like san francisco and other areas, like a replay from the 1970s. >> reporter: that's right. if you look at other major cities across the country that are the same size as san francisco, all of them are seeing crime up in the same ways. we are all seeing it out of the pandemic. those cities are in many cases

in much more conservative, traditional district attorneys. you don't see them being recalled. there is something going on here that combines people's general discontent with what's going on here, which seems to be a political tactic being deployed against liberal prosecutors in particular. so all of that, i think, has people who hope for criminal justice reform worried about being on the back foot in the future. >> that's what progressives will tell you. yes, things may not be going great in san francisco or new york, but this is a crime wave we're seeing all across america. you can go to most cities and they're seeing pretty significant spikes in crime. one other thing so our viewers have a better understanding of it. there's a quality of life issue. i remember before giuliani got

into power in new york. progressive new yorkers complained about the terrible quality of life, and they were willing to do just about anything to have safe streets, clean streets. i do think in a lot of these debates, you are seeing this confluence between crime and homelessness. these tent cities, especially on the west coast, popping up all up and down the west coast from los angeles, san francisco, portland up to seattle. you have people of all idealogical stripes conflating these issues together. as you said before, the d.a.s all around the country don't deal with homelessness, but they're getting blamed because people are lumping all of these quality of life issues together. >> reporter: here in san francisco no one with a working set of eyes or ears would deny

there is a tremendous problem going on here. people are sleeping on the streets and there is, as one voter described it, a fentanyl massacre taking place in this city. drug addiction, mental illness, all of these things are everywhere. if you look at the actual responsibilities of the district attorney's office, it's none of those things. of course in the case of drug dealing, sure. but we're talking about a set of issues that fall squarely in the camp of the mayor's office and police, which in san francisco are suffering from a 9% clearance rate. they have a traditionally terrible relationship with progressive d.a.'s. this is not entirely the fault of the d.a. when we spoke to voters in this recall effort, they say we recognize that. not a single one of them ever said anything about woke politics or any of the conservative talking points you hear when they talk about

progressive d.a.s. this is a generalized problem. we spoke in one case to a bike store owner who described a truck backing up to his front door, putting chains around it and yanking it out into the streets. i don't have time for that right now. i'm having to replace a $5,000 plate glass window every month and i have to see a change right now. there's something bigger going on right now. a real clash of ideology in san francisco. >> jake brings up fentanyl, mika. this is another plague on this country. we've been talking a lot about

guns. we need to talk about fentanyl more, because it's killing so many americans. it's out of control. our federal government and our state agencies have got to figure out a way to coordinate this better to stop the massive flow of fentanyl into this country, because it is a real, real problem. >> for sure. up next steve kornacki is at the big board with more on yesterday's key elections. also ahead, gas prices nearing $5 a gallon nationally with no end to the rise in sight. rise in sight. finding the perfect developer isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found her. she's in prague between the ideal cup of coffee and a truly impressive synthesizer collection. and you can find her right now (lepsi?) on upwork.com (lepsi.) when the world is your workforce, finding the perfect project manager, designer, developer, or whomever you may need...

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this is real. i guess the question is, do we want to continue tot live like this? do we want to live in a world where a kid can buy two of these semiautomatic weapons on his 18th birthday? are we okay with this? i hope the answer is no. e we ok? i hope the answer is no. june 8th, and there is still snow on the ground up in the mountains in denver. 7:36 in the morning.

let's bring in steve kornacki. good morning. we were just talking about the san francisco d.a.'s race. you're looking at a bunch of races yesterday, including mayor of los angeles. what happened? >> we got one batch of votes in san francisco. we knew right away that which he is sa bu dean had been recalled. here's where things stand the morning after. basically more than half the vote has been counted, basically all the mail-in ballots that came in prior to election day and a good chunk of the election day vote, but much more to be counted. if you're infamiliar with california elections, these can take a few days to finalize. it looks like they're both going to make a runoff.

it's going to be a one-on-one race to be decided in november in the general election. you talk about the themes that animated the san francisco d.a. recall race about crime, about quality of life, public safety. those are the issues caruso has stressed in particular. he's poured a ton of money into this campaign. his lead is five points over bass right now. so far he is doing slightly better in the election day vote than the mail-in vote. there is a precedent for this in modern times in los angeles. 1993, there was a 63-year-old multimillionaire republican businessman named richard riordan who ran on public safety and cleaning up homelessness. he got elected in 1993 and

served two terms. that's going to be your runoff, held in november. a couple races of significance, the biggest one house primary in california. here's republican david valadao. he's in second right now. this is a republican who voted to impeach donald trump following january 6th. he's trying to hold off his nearest republican component. chris mathys. he's running about 1200 votes behind. extremely low turnout in this district. there may not be enough for mathys to overtake valadao.

this is a district overall that joe biden carried by 13 points over donald trump. valadao barely won the thing in 2020. democrats believe he's beatable this year. they believe they could beat one of the more trump aligned candidates. the 40th district of california, this is young kim, congresswoman. mahmoud, trump aligned republican in this race. national republicans wanted to get kim in the second spot. we haven't officially called it yet. there is one other race that i think caught us by surprise. that is the first district of montana. ryan zinke got some ethical

baggage from the trump years. he served in the house before he went to the trump administration. he leads by a point, just over a thousand votes. still some votes to be counted here. closer thanxpected there for ryan zinke. >> ryan zinke rode a horse to his first day as secretary. coming up next, treasury secretary janet yellen calls the rise in prices of goods across the country unacceptable. we're watching capitol, where a hearing on the gun crisis in this country will begin in just about 20 minutes. a number of victims of the uvalde shooting will speak. "morning joe" is coming right back. "morning joe" is coming right back

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like they projected so much federal spending into the economy that had a role in rising inflation. now we're seeing this dire forecast from the world bank. give us your assessment as to what happened. >> she said it. they were wrong. they injected too much money. the government injected too much money into the system. that has been one element of the reason we have the inflation we're seeing. having said that, perhaps in the defense of the administration or the defense of understanding where we are today, i think in large part the federal reserve, if you were to prioritize a list of how we got here, if you will, it really was the fed that also missed it and in a much bigger way. having said that, the question is where do we go from here? most analysts suggest it's going to get worse. the gas prices are the singular

issue and food are going to make people feel it. most people are expecting gas to get up to $6. that's obviously money taken out of all the other spending. there could become a price where people stop driving as much. we're also entering into hurricane season. you get a bad storm that takes production offline or takes refining offline. that can do real damage to prices and make them spike even more. >> it sounds tomorrow will be worse. andrew, with this happy news, let's counter balance it because every time i hear jamie diamond go out and say hurricane's coming, you guys better get ready, it's going to be rough.

i saw two or three articles yesterday saying, listen, all these people running around screeching about a recession, but just relax. >> and yet you can't buy a house. >> housing it's insane. >> it's impossible. >> it's harder for americans to get houses than ever before. the prices are still way up. interest rates are going up. so you look at that market. you look at the fact that you can go in any market and every house is pending, pending, pending. doesn't look like 1929. >> no. i don't think this is 1929 or 2008. jamie diamond's brand is about the jp morgan balance sheet. when he says we could have a hurricane, what he actually said is we could have a super storm

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as questions remain about the police response to the shooting in uvalde, texas, just over two weeks ago, the city's mayor says law enforcement is keeping even him in the dark about where that investigation stands. speaking at an emergency city council meeting yesterday mayor don mclaughlin responded to questions from reporters about transparency in that probe and the ever changing timeline and narrative from police about last month's attack. >> it's now been more than a week since there's been any

public statement about this investigation. is that acceptable to you? >> no, it's not, but, again, i don't control that side of it, you will have to take that up with the district attorney. again, i don't -- i don't have that. we've asked for a briefing or something, but we are not getting it, so, i mean, i've been told that they're law enforcement and we are not going to be entitled to it. >> it's my understanding that you as the mayor have asked the da for some sort of briefing and they have given you nothing? >> i've asked everybody involved, sir, for a briefing at one point or another. >> the police chief can't give you a briefing on what happened that day? >> i haven't asked him, sir. again -- again, i was asked to stay out of their investigation and not comment on it and i'm not going to talk about the investigation anymore. >> notably absent from that meeting yesterday was pete arredondo the uvalde school police chief who was sworn into the city council last week. when asked about arredondo's absence the mayor said he did not know why he was not there. and this just in, we're expecting to hear from attorney general merrick garland in just a few hours today where he will

announce a team to conduct a federal investigation into the response to the mass shooting in uvalde. so, guys, obviously with all the confusion and all the bad information out of the gate and still no real firm timeline on what happened in terms of the police response, the justice department is stepping in, attorney general garland today just a few hours from now will announce a team that's going to look into this. >> what's with these texas leaders? you have the mayor who is saying, oh, i'm not going to interfere in that. he's the mayor of uvalde. you've got the police chief who is hiding. we saw just how horrific all texas officials behaved during that press conference when they were shouting and screaming when they were asked basic questions about guns. >> cursing. >> so, yeah, i mean, this is -- this looks like what used to happen in the deep south in the 1950s and 1960s, unfortunately it looks like the department of justice has to get involved

because there is no transparency in the town where little children and their teachers got slaughtered. at the top of the hour the house oversight committee will hold a hearing on the epidemic of gun violence in this country. as we have reported it will feature an 11-year-old girl who covered herself in the blood of her murdered best friend to survive the shooting at robb elementary school in uvalde. and minutes from now the supreme court will release more decisions as we await some major rulings on guns and on abortion. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage after a quick final break. coverage after a quick fil break. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ thunderstruck ♪ ♪♪ ♪ thunderstruck yeah, yeah♪ now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.

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