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testimony from victims of the recent shootings. this student described watching her friends and teachers die and saying she's afraid to return to school. the devastating story of kimberly and felix rubio who lost their daughter. >> we told her we loved her and we would pick her up after school. i could still see her walking with us toward the exit. in the reel that scrolls across my memory, she turns and acknowledges my promise. then we left. i left my daughter at that school, and that decision will haunt me for the rest of many i life. we don't want you to think of her as just a number. she was intelligent, compassionate and athletic. she was quiet. shy unless she had a point to make. when she knew she was right, she

stood her ground. she was firm, direct, voice unwavering. today, we stand for lexi and as her voice we demand action. somewhere out there, there's a mom listen to our testimony, thinking, i can't even imagine their pain. not knowing that our reality will one day be hers unless we act now. >> a chilling statement there. joining me now is capitol hill correspondent ali vitali, who has been tracking this on the hill, pete williams, and nbc's morgan chesky who has been in uvalde. ali, i want to start with you. there's so much to talk about from today's tomorrow. there was so much emotion and the powerful calls for change. what are the takeaways for you so far? >> just this palpable sense of anguish from the hearing room.

we knew that this is what today was going to look like. we saw shades of it yesterday. >> i'm sorry to interrupt you. president biden is talking before he departs for los angeles. he is at andrews air force bay. >> as you recall, the first major bill, we gave the states and localities billions of dollars. billions of dollars. i encourage them to hire police officers and reform the police department. very few have done it. in addition to that, i sent to congress a request for $300 million in this year's budget to deal with hiring cops, to retrain cops as well as to make sure they are adequately disbursed around communities. it's time they move. it's time the states and localities spend the money they have to deal with crime as well as retrain police officers. as well as provide for more community policing. it's time they get on with doing

that. and that's what i think the message last night from the american public was in all the primaries. thank you. >> there you have president biden speaking before he departs for los angeles. he is about to attend the summit of the americas, responding to some of the election results last night. bad night for some of the progressive candidates in saying that states and localities should be spending the money that he has allocated to invest in police departments and training of police officers. it appears as though the president did have a slight trip there as he is boarding air force i. he is heading to los angeles to the summit of the americas. i do want to go back to ali. i'm sorry for interrupting you. i want to go back to what you were saying. let's go back to the hearing that we have been covering, that really difficult testimony from parents and survivors in uvalde.

what were the other key takeaways for you this morning? >> you see the president there juggling the multiple topics that are happening right now on capitol hill quite frankly. democrats wanting to keep this focus squarely on gun violence prevention. they're doing that through hearings like the one this morning. as well through legislative pushes like the one they're going to take on later this afternoon when they look to pass a package of gun violence prevention legislation. they will do another vote tomorrow on a red flags incentive piece. that's the only part that could be viable on the senate side. that's the only overlapping point between the bipartisan senate negotiations happening. when you hear the president there talking about crime and referendums and elections, that's where republicans are trying to put this focus. i was struck, one of the top members on the oversight committee on the republican side, jim jordan, wasn't in that hearing this morning when many

of the testimonials were being given by witnesses and those impacted by gun violence. instead, he was with a group of us reporters during a republican leadership conference that was scheduled talking about january 6 and trying to talk about how public -- how partisan that is and trying to put the conversation back on to democrats, on inflation, on crime. that is the balancing act that we are seeing right now along party lines in congress. the question for democrats -- this is what the oversight committee chair woman said was the point, turning anger and anguish into action. that's something they hope they can do today, at least on the house side of the building. >> you are right, ali. i think a lot of people are skeptical even if there is any new legislation passed, will it be significant, will it have real teeth to it? pete, i want to turn to you now. as we are having this discussion, we are waiting to hear from the attorney general, merrick garland, who is going

to -- we are told, he will announce who the lead will be in terms of the justice department's incident review. what are you expecting to hear from the attorney general? what will you watch for? >> just that and how comprehensive he expected it to be. these are reviews done by the justice department's office, what's calls the community oriented police service. they have done these sorts of reviews in the past on mass shooting events. they did one after the attack on the government facility in san bernardino, california, in 1985. after the pulse nightclub shooting in orlando and a similar kind of study after the las vegas shooting of the man who shot down on the concert from his hotel room. in each case, the justice department has gotten support from an outside police group that used to be called the police foundation. that will be conducting this review. the important thing about this is the justice department will be taking its time.

these things take months. sometimes up to a year or more. but they will be able to be very comprehensive. they will talk to everybody that was involved. they will also make recommendations. it won't be just a whose fault was this. he is just about to speak right now. the justice department in this conference room, he has other officials there with him. >> let's go to merrick garland now. he is starting to talk. >> two weeks ago, at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas, an unspeakable act of mass violence took the lives of 19 children and two of their teachers. i know i speak for all of us and i think i speak for everyone in the country saying our hearts are broken by what happened in uvalde. there is nothing that we can do that can undo the pain for the survivors, families of the victims and the community and

the country. the independence and transparency and expertise of the justice department can go a long way toward assessing what happened in uvalde with respect to law enforcement response and to giing guidance for the future. that's what we are here for today. the justice department is undertaking a critical incident review of the law enforce money response that day at the request of the uvalde mayor. the review will be comprehensive. it will be transparent. it will be independent. we will be assessing what happened that day. we will be doing site visits at the school. we will be conducting interviews of an extremely wide variety of stakeholders, witnesses, families, law enforcement, government officials, school officials. we will be reviewing the resources that were made available after the -- in the

aftermath. the review will culminate in a final report which will include our findings and recommendations. and it will be made public. the department's c.o.p.s. office is leading the review. our director and our senior counselor will be leading the team. now i'm going to -- i will be happy to introduce to you the team who will be doing the investigation. chief rick brazil who served as chief of the sacramento police department and lead investigator on a number of critical incident reviews. deputy chief gene disinger who was deputy chief of police for virginia tech where he was recruited following the mass shooting there in 2007. deputy chief frank fernandez, a former chief of police and police practices expert for the justice department's civil rights division since 2008.

albert quineri, on the screen, joining us remotely. he has served with the fbi as a unit chief of the violence reduction unit in the office of partner engagement. he oversees the fbi's program that trained over 110,000 law enforcement officers in active shooter preparation and response. major mark lomax, served over 27 years with the pennsylvania state police, led national efforts to strengthen law enforcement tactical response, as executive director for the national tactical officers association and as a manager for police leadership and training. laura macelray, communication strategist, a civilian police executive dedicated to bridging the gap between officers and the communities they serve. sheriff john mina, led the orlando police department

through the shooting at the pulse nightclub. dr. april natranel, led an outreach and education program and was the architect for the response to the boston marathon bombing. chief kristin zima led them through the mass shooting in aurora. they can't undo the tragedy that occurred. we are just heartbroken about. we can assess what happened, and we can make recommendations for the future. i would also say that as we conduct this review, the justice department stands ready to participate, to support the bipartisan gun safety negotiations that are going on in congress right now in any way that's possible. i think now we will take a few questions.

>> given the misstatements, how concerned are you about the lack of transparency so far down in uvalde? will this review have the tools it needs in case people decide they do not want to cooperate? >> as i said, we have been invited by the mayor. we have been promised, assured and welcomed with respect to cooperation by every level of law enforcement, state, federal and local. we will participate in that vein. we don't expect any problems. >> on the topic of gun violence, a man was arrested early this morning outside the home of justice kavanaugh with a gun and a knife threatening to do harm to the justice. what is your reaction? >> this kind of behavior is obviously -- it's behavior we will not tolerate. threats of violence and actual violence against the justices, of course, strike at the heart our democracy. we will do everything we can to prevent them and to hold people who do them accountable.

for that reason, last month, i accelerated the protection of all the justices' residences 24/7. last month, i met with the marshall of the court. i convened a meeting with her as well as with the deputy director of the fbi, with the director of the marshall service and with our own law enforcement -- our own prosecutors to ensure every degree of protection available is possible. just yesterday, i met with judge salis and judge sullivan on the judicial security committee of the judicial conference and assured them of our support for their efforts with respect to judicial security. >> when will this group be on the ground in uvalde? there's been some indication that some officials, including the school police chief, have been uncooperative in the investigations that are already proceeding. what is the process for this

team to gather information from people who may not cooperate in the investigation? is there any compulsory process? >> that team is already working. they will be on the ground as necessary. but they have begun their work. as i said, we expect voluntary cooperation from everybody at every level. we have been promised that cooperation. >> is it possible -- [ inaudible ] >> this is not a criminal investigation. this is an after action critical incident review which we have done in the past, which we did in san bernardino and which was done at the pulse nightclub. this is not a criminal review. >> thanks, everybody. >> thank you. >> that was attorney general merrick garland announcing the name of the team that will be conducting that critical incident review of the massacre in uvalde, texas.

the two names he mentioned as leading the effort, rob chapman, shanetta cutler. i want to bring pete williams back to help us break down what we heard. he said this is an extensive review. he said there will be people on the ground as needed, conducting interviews. he said that their team has been welcomed by local law enforcement. they don't expect any problems. we expect full cooperation. that's what we are promised. it's worth noting that the members of the team that he just laid out have all had experience dealing with mass casualties from 9/11, virginia tech, the orlando nightclub massacre, boston marathon incident. what do you make of the team that he just announced, pete? >> i think it's also interesting that he said they have started their work. obviously, that's important to get to people while memories are

still fresh and they can still get as much as they can about real time what actually happened. there's a lot left to do here in terms of exactly what transpired. i think you can tell from the questions, what if some of the people are reluctant initially to answer questions? they might be reluctant initially. the fact is, this review will go on a long time, for months. the hope is they will get a complete picture. >> pete, he also had something to say about another story that i know you have been tracking, which is this incident outside of justice kavanaugh's residence earlier this morning. a man was arrested. he said, we will not tolerate threats against the justices. they strike at the heart of or democracy. of course, this has been an issue for the justice department in the wake of that leaked draft of the supreme court decision which shows the justices may be poised to overturn roe v. wade. what can you tell us about that? i understand you may have new information there.

>> we do have new information. this was 1:30 this morning that this man was actually detained by the police. not at the justice's house but a block from his house. he lived in suburban maryland across the d.c. line in the neighborhood called chevy chase. the police say they got a 911 call from a man. it turns out that the person who called 911, according to authorities, is the man himself who showed up outside the justice's residence in the neighborhood. according to officials, he said that he had traveled from california, that he had homicidal thoughts and that he was there to attack justice kavanaugh. he was carrying with him a handgun. although, he told police that the gun was unloaded and locked in a case. he also had a knife and pepper spray and what were described by several law enforcement officials as burglary tools. he was detained. we expect federal charges to be filed later today. it's not clear exactly who is

going to prosecute this case. we would think the federal charges would be filed here fairly shortly. >> pete, stay with us. we continue to break all of this down. you want to go to morgan who is in uvalde. respond if you will to what we just heard from the attorney general, merrick garland, talking about extensive review that's going to take place. there's been so much anger and grief in the community where you are right now. how important is it to the families to get answers? >> reporter: there was one word we heard attorney general garland say that really stuck with me. that was transparency. transparency is something that would be incredibly welcome in this community, because it's important to note that the investigation has shifted from dps to district attorney buzby here. she has yet to make a public statement on any facet of the investigation and where it

stands. we know this federal review by the department of justice was at the request of uvalde's mayor. i spoke with him yesterday after this emergency city council meeting. i asked him if he had received any update whatsoever from any agency regarding the status of this ongoing investigation. he says he has asked people at every level of government and as of right now, their answer is, no. to be clear, he wasn't even asking for confidential material, just for a briefing, just for some sort of update as to where things stand. because as of right now, there are still so many questions in this community about what took place inside that elementary school two weeks and one day ago. one of the only people that could shed so much light on this, the school's police chief is remaining tight-lipped, out of sight. he has yet to make a public statement. he was the lone city council member who was not present at yesterday's emergency council meeting. as this community tries to heal,

there is definitely a call for answers, transparency and accountability. >> absolutely. you have to think that he would be among the top people that this incident review team would want to talk to, particularly given that law enforcement was in the hallways of the school for over an hour while the students inside were calling 911. ali, pete and morgan, thank you so much. i want to bring in our panel, victoria de francesco, david jolly, danel harvin and kristin song. she's championing ethan's law that requires gun owners to lock up their guns if children can gain access, that will get a vote later today on the house floor. danel, just get you to react to what we heard from the attorney general.

he laid out what he said will be an extensive review of what happen in uvalde, why it took officers, frankly, so long to storm the classrooms, to try to directly confront and stop the gunman. the fact that that review is now underway, what were the key takeaways for you? >> that's welcome to not only the families in the community but most of us americans. we have had a lot more questions than answers over the last few weeks as this unfolded. out of respect, we have allowed the families to bury their loved ones but now it's time for answers. the justice department is properly placed. it's an exceptional team they have gotten together to look at this and get to the bottom of it. one thing that i thought was important that the justice department is going to do is come out with recommendations for future, and i think that's important and needed considering what law enforcement is facing. the state of gun violence that we are seeing. >> i thought it was also interesting that he said, we

expect full cooperation, we have been promised full cooperation. are there concerns when you have a review like this that those who will be conducting the review will be met with resistance or even anger? >> there are. there shouldn't be. but we saw reporting in the last week or so of various officials, particularly the police chief, that had gotten quiet and gone dark. hopefully, this will shed light on the situation. as public servants they are obliged to cooperate. it's their duty and the families deserve it. kristin, i want to go to you. this is personal for you. the votes on the house floor today are ones that you have been fighting for in the name of your son. as you watched this testimony and heard the anguish of the parents who lost their children to this gun violence, what did

it mean to you? what did you make of it? why are you fighting so hard for new legislation? >> you know, it put me back to the days after ethan died, just that sheer anguish, the pain that you feel losing a child, the intensity, you know. i just could feel that immediately. the reason why i'm fighting for this -- you know, storage impacts suicide. the majority of children use unsecured guns. unintentional deaths like my child. 76% of all school shooters get their guns from home. the majority of those guns are unsecured. you have a child in crisis who has easy access to deadly weapons. then they march into your school or they march into your church and they kill your innocent loved ones. even if we can just get people to lock up their guns, then we can reduce school shootings,

that would be incredible. >> i want to go to victoria now. i want to play for our viewers what we heard from uvalde pediatrician roy garrot today about what he saw at the hospital. we just want to warn our viewers, this is very difficult to hear. it's very painful and it's very graphic. >> two children whose bodies have been pulverized by bullets, decapitated, whose flesh had been ripped apart, that the only clue of their identity was a cartoon cloth clinging to them, clinging to life and finding none. i could only hope these two were a tragic exception to the list of survivors. as i awaited with my fellow doctors, nurses, first responders and staff for other casualties we hoped to save, they never arrived. all that remained was a body of 17 more children, two teachers who cared for them, who dedicated their careers to nurturing and respecting the

awesome potential every single one, just as we doctors do. >> it's just so difficult to hear him lay out the way in which the victims' bodies were impacted by the bullets. victoria, look, we have been here before, particularly in the wake of sandy hook in which you had parents who were devastated on capitol hill lobbying for new and stricter gun laws. and yet nothing passed at that moment. there is a sense that this time may be different. of course, we have said that before. do you think that something is going to get done this time? will it be enough? >> you know, i think in looking at the unspeakable tragedy in uvalde is also seeing the timing of it where it came in a cluster of other unspeakable tragedies. at the same time, looking at the electoral calendar where we are seeing in november a couple of months out an election.

i think the severity of the impact of these tragedies coupled with republican leadership looking down the road and saying, this is not something that we want front and center, is an incentive to getting something done. again, it's not going to be what is deemed necessary by democrats, by folks who want to protect our children and take guns out of the hands of people who do this. but i think that we will see an incremental step. i think that is one hope that i am going to hold on to. the second part that i am hopeful about is that on the bureaucratic end, we're going to see better processes pushed into place. for example, we saw the kids who were calling, the folks calling 911, the calls were going to the local police department as opposed to the one who was supposed to be in charge of who was going to go in. i think that in this merrick

garland investigation, we're going to at least see processes be put in place. because regrettably, there likely will be other tragedies. at least what is it that can be done to prevent law enforcement from making the same mistake? >> it was notable the attorney general also made a point of saying that the justice department is available to support the bipartisan talks that are happening right now in the senate for new legislation. david jolly, i want to turn to you. on the one hand, everyone is laying out the fact there seems to be new urgency. on the other hand, you have a moment like this morning when congressman jim jordan left the hearing. i think that gives the skeptics reason to say, this might not be different. we heard from actor mathew

mcconaughey. i want to play what he said. >> we need responsible gun ownership, responsible gun ownership. we need background checks. we need to raise the minimum age to purchase an ar-15 rifle to 21. we need a waiting period for those rifles. we need red flag laws and consequences for those who abuse them. these are reasonable, practical, tactical regulations to our nation, states, communities and homes. responsible gun owners are fed up with the second amendment being abused and hijacked by some deranged individuals. these regulations are not a step back. they're a step forward for a civil society and -- and the second amendment. >> david, matthew is a gun owner. he talked about his personal

anger, feeling as though the second amendment was being hijacked for an agenda. does an appearance like the one by him do the parents and the survivors of uvalde on capitol hill lobbying members of congress, does it make this moment different? >> it affirms that those comments reflect the majority opinion of most americans. i think that's important for republicans to continue to have to answer to. the republicans represent a very minority viewpoint when it comes to gun ownership. so i do not anticipate we will see any republican leadership out of the house. we will not see a single change. if there is any hope, it will be in a watered-down compromise coming out of the senate. because there are a handful of republicans that may be fluff to -- be enough to get it over the line. widen said, i think we should have an assault weapons ban but

it won't pass. what else can we do? we can do a federal grant program or incentive program for red flag laws. raise the age to purchase automatic weapons. the majority of americans are there. republicans are not. what you hear from the white house is reminding the country that republicans are out of step on gun issues. they will continue to be throughout this process. >> danel, let me give you the final word. i know that authorities are very concerned that there may be copycat instances of this. what are you hearing? what is the level of concern? >> it's a serious concern. i have spoken with many of my colleagues in the intelligence community. they are seeing online chatter from domestic threats as well as foreign threats, encouraging people to go out and carry out mass shootings. the conversations on the hill, on the doj, they are timely.

we haven't seen the last of the mass shootings. there's people online continuously encouraging this. >> well, to the entire panel, appreciate your help understand this challenging moment and break down what we heard from the attorney general. thank you all so much for being here. really appreciate it. coming up, summit snub? the president on his way to los angeles to meet with leaders from central and south america, but not all of them. we will have the details on why. that's next on "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. you're pretty particular about keeping a healthy body. what goes on it. usually. and in it. mostly.

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invited due to their poor record on human rights. several thousand migrants set off from southern mexico this week to try to reach the u.s. mike memoli is tracking all of the developments. let's start with that snub. i know you and our team have been pressing the white house on this. how significant is it that mexico's president is not going to be there? >> reporter: when you think of the major foreign policy story lines that we have been covering so far, last summer the drawdown in afghanistan, the buildup and launch of the invasion of ukraine, this summit was for the administration a showcase of the fact that they have a robust agenda for the western hemisphere. we're not overlooking our own backyard. there's no doubt mexico's decision not to attend -- the president, i should say, puts a damper on the occasion.

despite the now eight heads of government not attending here out of the 30 countries that will be represented, there is a very full agenda. president biden will kick it off with a speech tonight where he outlines his vision for the western hemisphere. the white house unveiling a plan to deal with not just the current pandemic but preparing for future pandemics to build up the health infrastructure in the western hemisphere. also an announcement about what they call the america's partnership for economic prosperity, build up the economy of the region. all of that setting the table for what has been another major crisis for this administration, all about migration. the president on friday planning to announce what they are calling the los angeles declaration on migration. it's unclear what the details are. we have seen vice president harris making some announcements about private sector investment there. the president will talk about what they will do to deal with the migration surge. >> you talk about the slate of

issues that the president has been dealing with on the world stage. you have to think about russia's war in ukraine. that's going to be front and center at the next summit. the white house announcing he will travel to germany for the g7 summit and spain for the nato summit. again, the war in ukraine is going to be the big topic at both of those. >> yeah, absolutely, that's right. we saw the nato secretary-general at the white house to prepare for the summit to talk through the agenda. it comes at the end of the month at a critical moment when so much of the work the biden administration has been doing in dealing with russia's invasion has been to try to keep our european, our nato allies on the same page, to keep that unity in the response to russia's aggression. it's really an important opportunity for the leaders to meet in person. especially with so many questions like whether to admit new members into nato. has been resistant.

>> yes. the president saying he is optimistic that turkey will stand down in its opposition. we have yet to see that happen. we continue to track that piece of the equation. mike memoli, thank you for your great reporting from los angeles. ready for primetime, the january 6 committee has its first witnesses ready for its first hearing happening tomorrow night. what we know right now. that's next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc.

tomorrow night the committee investigating the deadly attack on the u.s. capitol will kick off a series of public hearings revealing their findings. first up is testimony from a capitol police officer among those injured that day. a documentary filmmaker, who followed the proud boys as they stormed the capitol. this amid a court win for the committee. john eastman, the architect of trump's attempts to overturn the election, has been ordered to

turn over more documents. the federal judge deciding the case says one email shows evidence of a potential crime. joining us to discuss all of this, jacquelin alamane, betty woodruogh-swan. betsy, i ask you to set the scene for the hearing tomorrow night. why specifically were those two witnesses chosen to go first? >> a key reason for the selection of the documentary filmmaker is that he is one of the few people to have details firsthand knowledge of how these far right extremists' plans for january 6, who hasn't been charged with a crime and sent to prison. he has video footage showing the head of the oath keepers and the head of the proud boys having a

conversation on january 5th, the day before the attack. that's what he had told politico when my colleague spoke to him about assistance he had been providing to the january 6 select committee. if the committee wanted to bring in any other people who had that knowledge, they would have had to potentially get them out of prison. it's just invaluable. of course, as well, his flare for storytelling and taking complex issues and making them accessible to general audiences. >> to be clear, betbetsy, the american public will potentially see new video? >> we know the select committee is sitting on an enormous trove of video. they made video recordings of a substantial portion of the interviews with witnesses. they haven't released any of that witness interview video. it's likely in the thousands of hours. on top of that, there's likely video from the events of january 6 that may not yet be public.

the question for the committee is, do they start rolling out this type of content in their first hearing, or do they wait until later on to release it to the public? we will know more tomorrow night. >> we sure will. that's a very good question. chuck, let me turn to you. as i said at the top, former president trump's attorney john eastman has now lost his bid to shield documents from the committee. 159 documents in total have to be turned over. they have to be turned over today. how significant is this? the judge referencing one email showing evidence of a potential crime. >> yeah, it's interesting. i read judge carter's ruling this morning. 26 pages. it's not enthralling, i promise you. but it's interesting in the sense that eastman mostly lost but partly won. there are some documents in which judge carter says

privilege pertains. he doesn't have to turn them over to the committee. as you noted, there are other documents that he does have to turn over to the committee. you made a really important point just a few moments ago. carter -- judge carter reiterated the crime fraud exception applies to at least one more document. when a crime fraud exception applies to something that would otherwise be privileged, that means the privilege dissipates, disappears, goes away. that document also has to be turned over. we were talking about judge carter a few months ago when he ruled that a crime fraud exception applied to other would-be privileged documents. really interesting. nobody has been convicted of anything. judge carter hasn't decided, nor could he, that mr. eastman or anyone else committed a crime in the way we would have to prove in federal court to a unanimous jury beyond a reasonable doubt. on this evidentiary question, do

they see more documents? yes. in a few instances because a crime fraud exception applies. i hope that's not too confusing. it's important. >> i think it is important. it's clearly a significant development for the committee on the eve of the hearings about to begin. jackie, i want to turn to you. speaking of enthralling, you are out with a really interesting report that the secret service had to scramble on january 6 when former president trump wanted to walk with the rioters to the capitol and was -- this was after weeks of pressure by the former president on the secret service to devise a plan to help him do so. of course, at the time, we thought, is he going to walk to the capitol? is it going to happen? it didn't happen. tell us about what you all found in your report. >> yeah, look, the former president said so himself multiple times that he was determined and wanted to march

from the stage to the capitol. up until now, that was just rhetoric. what we reported is that the secret service actually in that moment tried to make plans and scramble to accommodate the president's wishes. just an hour before rioters breached security at the u.s. capitol. at that point in time, the metro police department actually was already scrambling to try to push back some of the protesters who were already starting to breach the perimeter. the police department ultimately had to tell the secret service, no, they could not accommodate this request. the other part of the reporting that i think is perhaps more important is that trump was previously pushing for the march to the capitol weeks before we have ever reported before. this suggests that he was well

aware of the planning on the far right depths of the internet for his protesters and pro-trump supporters to march to the capitol and show that, again, the extent trump was aware of with a his supports were planning, that he did know to some extent and was agitating, despite pushback from those around him, people in the u.s. secret service aware of some of the violent threats. >> chuck, quickly, your reaction to these revelations. it's so striking to hear that former president trump really pushed it right up to the line and that we are learning this again right before the hearing's about to begin. >> it's shocking but not surprising. this is what we have come to expect, sadly, from the former president. by the way, i read the reporting that jackie and her colleagues produced on this. it's extraordinary. in the sense that the secret service was put in such a bad position thanks to the former president and his cohorts.

>> a lot for all of us to watch. thank you for setting the scene for us. really appreciate your insights. turning his back. new reporting that donald trump's son-in-law watched his hands of the former president before the week -- the weeks before january 6th. what that might mean for tomorrow's primetime hearing. that's next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. hell reports" only on msnbc a chemo-free combination of two immunotherapies that works differently. it could mean a chance to live longer. opdivo plus yervoy is for adults newly diagnosed with non-small cell lung cancer that has spread, tests positive for pd-l1, and does not have an abnormal egfr or alk gene. together, opdivo plus yervoy helps your immune system launch a response that fights cancer in two different ways. opdivo plus yervoy equals a chance for more time together. more family time. more time to remember. opdivo and yervoy can cause your immune system

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we're getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this election. >> and nearly 24 hours after that stunning moment, after the former president falsely declared he did win the election, his son-in-law and top adviser jared kushner woke up in their mansion and told his wife ivanka trump it is time to leave

washington. that is according to new reporting by our next guest, who looks at how the president's son-in-law washed his hands of former president trump well before january 6th. of course, this comes as we're expecting to hear taped testimony from the former top adviser at some point during the january 6th select committee's scheduled hearings, which will begin tomorrow night. joining us now is the author of that piece, peter baker for "the new york times." it is an extraordinary piece of reporting, peter. appreciate your joining us to discuss it. tell us a little bit more about how jared kushner as you described washed his hands of the trump presidency. what did it look like? >> it is rather extraordinary, on thursday of election week, basically before joe biden had been declared the winner, jared kushner and wife ivanka trump saw which way the election was going. there was no interest in their part in participating in this fight to claim that somehow it had been stolen. they don't believe it was

stolen. and they have made clear they don't believe it was stolen to associates and allies. and basically kushner decided this wasn't going to be a fight he was going to wage and he told the president of the united states, his father-in-law that if rudy is going to be meeting giuliani, if rudy is the guy running this, i don't want any part of it. i can't help you in effect is what he said. this goes to the larger story of what happened in this post election period, how is it the president of the united states, you know, waged this campaign to basically overturn the will of the voters and overturn an election. in part because people around him who knew the election hadn't been stolen seated the field, people like rudy giulian sydney powell and others who were filling the president's ear about stolen ballots and all that. >> i think that's what's so remarkable about your reporting, you peel back the curtain on this moment that at least in terms of the conversations between the former president and his son-in-law have just been shrouded in secrecy for a long

time. it is incredible. we know that jared decided to focus on the abraham accords. he was flying back from the middle east on january 6th. and you write that when he arrived home, he got a call from kevin mccarthy, and you write, quote, asking mr. kushner to persuade the president to do something. we need help, mr. mccarthy insisted. of course, this is going to be part of what we anticipate the american public will hear once the hearings begin. how impactful could kushner's testimony be? >> well, i think it is important and interesting to see what the january 6th committee, you know, uses from their testimony that they had from him, he's never spoken about this publicly, there is no account from him about his views of this, and his actions or lack of action in that period. i think that's going to be a relevant thing when the committee outlines its version of the episode. and it is important to hear as you say what happened on january

6th. he wasn't in the country for most of the day. when he landed, he goes home, gets in the shower to rest after a long trip, he had just negotiated a diplomatic -- and you get this panicked phone call from kevin mccarthy saying come help. he turns off the shower, goes to the white house, by that time it was too late. ivanka, his wife, persuaded the president to put out a video. it wasn't compelling from a lot of people on capitol hill because it told the rioters to go home, but it also said we love you, you're special, it repeated the false claims about the election and kushner at that point concluded that was as far as the president was going to go. >> very quickly what was ivanka doing during this time. how did she walk that line? >> she didn't want any part of this. she refused to speak at the ellipse, the rally on the ellipse earlier in the day on january 6th. when she saw the president, her father-in-law berating mike

pence one more time on the phone, trying to get him to use his position as president to overturn the election, she became concerned that was so harsh at that moment she decided to accompany her father-in-law to the rally to keep things from going too far. but she didn't speak and the rest of the day, as the events on capitol hill transpired, she went up and down the stairs of the west wing trying to get him to put out stronger statements calling off the attackers. but to the frustration of the people who thought he never went far enough. >> peter baker, an extraordinary piece of reporting, thank you for joining us. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." andrea will be back tomorrow. chris jansing reports starts right after this. chris jansing reports starts right after this we believe there's an innovator in all of us. that's why we build technology that helps everyone come to the table and do more incredible things. ♪ ♪ think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage?

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