♪♪ tonight on "the reidout" -- >> i left my daughter at that school and that decision will haunt me for the rest of my life. soon after we received the news that our date ways among the 19 students and 2 teachers that died as a result of gun violence. >> heart wrenching testimony today from the families who suffered unimaginable losses to gun violence. plus, on the eve of the much-anticipated first public hearing of the january 6th committee, i'll be joined by sandra garza whose longtime partner capitol police officer brian sicknick died in the aftermath of the attack on the capitol and elizabeth warren will be sitting right here to tell me what we need to do when we lose our reproductive rights, and she has some strong suggestions for president biden, but we begin with more of those powerful heartbreaking calls to action on gun violence with survivors and family members of

victims of recent mass shottings testifying before congress today. we heard from the mother of 21-year-old zaire goodman who was wounded and survived the mass shooting at a buffalo grocery store last month which was motivated by racist hate. she described her son as pure joy and calling the person who shot him a domestic terrorism and says domestic terrorism occurs is because america is inherently violent. >> my son has a hole in the right side of his neck, two on his back and another on his left leg caused by an exploding bullet from an ar-15. if after hearing from me and the other people testifying today does not move to you act on gun laws i invite you to my home to help clean my son's wounds so that you may see up close the damage that has been caused to my son and to my community. >> we then heard from dr. roy

guerrero, the only pediatrician in uvalde who described the horror that he witnessed two weeks ago in the city's emergency room. >> two children whose bodies had been pulverized by bullets fired at them, decapitated, whose flesh had been ripped apart, that the only clue to their identities was a blood-spotted cartoon clothes clinging to them, clinging to life and finding none. i could only hope that these two bodies were a tragic exception to the list of survivors, but as i wait there had with my fellow uvalde doctors, nurses, first responders and hospital staff for other casualties we hoped to save, they never arrived. all that remained was the bodies of 17 more children, the two teachers who cared for them. >> dr. guerrero knew these children. he knew their parents, too. the first wounded child he saw was mia cerillo, the 11-year-old student who smeared her classmate's blood onner is

heavily in order to trick the killer into thinking she was dead. mia also testified today via video. >> he shot her in the head and then he shot some of my classmates. i saw him come back to the room so i grabbed the blood and i put it all over me >> what did you do then when you put the blood on yourself? >> i just stayed quiet and i got the teacher's phone and called 911. >> finally we heard from the mother of alexandria lexi rubio, a fourth grader who was among the 19 children killed in uvalde. in video testimony sitting next to her husband felix kimberly rubio made this tearful plea days before she will lay her precious daughter to rest. >> i left my daughter at that

school, and that decision will haunt me for the rest of my life. we understand that for some reason to some people, to people with money, to people who fund political campaigns that guns are more important than children, so at this moment we ask for progress. somewhere out there there there's a mom listening to our testimony thinking i can't even imagine their pain not knowing that our reality will one day be hers unless we act now. >> today u.s. attorney general merrick garland announced that the justice department will review the law enforcement response to the uvalde shooting and will make its findings public. as for the response in texas, well, that's less clear. texas senate democrats are calling on governor greg abbott to convene a special legislative session to raise the age to purchase long guns to 21 and to require a universal background check rick the governor is the only one who can call a special

session and set its agenda. instead, governor abbott wants the texas legislature to form special committees to make legislative recommendations in response to the shooting which critics say is too little and far too late. but check out the special sessions called by governor abbott before to enact restrictions on abortion and transgender student athletes, banning vaccine mandates, limiting fake critical race theory in schools. it's essentially a bingo carved republican boiler plate, but when it comes to guns, children and their safety, nothing. joining me now is texas state representative jasmine crockett who is running for u.s. congress and brandon wolf, press secretary for equality florida and a pulse nightclub shooting survive. brandon -- thank you both for being here. first of all, brandon, i watched the testimony live this morning and cried through the whole thing. i will unashamedly admit, and i myself couldn't imagine how anyone could watch that and walk away from it completely moved and inspired to act to prevent

this from happening again, but not everyone had the same reaction. i want to play for you representative andy biggs of texas who has whimsically spoken about lynching and not in a negative way and who has a certain history in his politics. this is what he said. this is how he reacted to watching that testimony. take a look. >> i've got to tell you the most egregious thing that the democrats did today is they took a person, a young person, little mia who was traumatized two weeks ago, still suffering under obvious ptsd as she testified in that video and bringing that poor little girl to relive this. if we're talking about ptsd, you just prolonged the agony of that little child for what? for your own political gain, your own political purpose.

this is despicable. >> and i guess he's implicating her parents who wanted her to testify an she did by video. that his reaction, brandon. are you as a survivor yourself have had to relive it, and i am, you know, will apologize in advance for having you on so much over the years. you've become one of my favorite people, dearest people, but you've had to relive it, you know, to help other people. what do you make of his take? >> well, first of all, congressman biggs is what is despicable and disgraceful. what he just said is appalling and atrocious and a disrespect to that young girl. what i saw today from mia and from those families was courage. i saw courage from fourth grade students, from kids who just two weeks ago were hid ebb at school disguising themselves with the blood of their own classmates to avoid being shot to death. i saw courage from families who dropped their 10-year-old children off at school only to watch them come out in body

bags. i saw more courage today from those families than we have ever seen from congressman biggs or the scores of republicans and republican-adjacent democrats who have sat on their hands for decades. i think this is a gut-check moment for these politicians and for political leaders across the country. can you really look in the eyes of those families and tell them nothing can be done? can you riley sit across from those children, from mia, those traumatized children and tell them that keeping them safe just isn't a priority for you? can you really assure us that your obsession with easy access to guns, guns on every corner a, that experiment we've been trying forever is the only answer? can you continue to tell this country full of communities like mine that have been ripped apart by gun violence that the most urgent crisis you are elected to solve teachers with they/them pronounce and reading red fish, blue fish and history lessons

saying that this country was build on the back of enslaved black people. if the answer is yes and you can sit there like congressman biggs and lead that hearing room and head back to your office and phone a lobbyist friend you are morally bankrupt, you can r disgraced for the position you hold. we need action. we don't need political bluster or grandstanding like that. we need political courage. the families deserve t.children like mia deserve it. our entire nation deserves. they need to get something done. >> these families and this little girl were so brave. they are not speaking out because they want to speak out. they are speaking out because they are desperate. people are desperate to the have something change and it's also, a, historical and other leaders like andy biggs to pretend that gun reform is alien to texas. this from "the texas tribune" why 18-year-olds can buy an

ar-15 but not a hand gun. the rules date back to the civil war era when they adopted the strictest gun control laws in the nation. handguns were targeted for gun reform in texas in the 19th century as weapons that they equated with crime, rifles and shot guns wrecks concluded because they were used for hunting and participating in a militia so they saw rifles as the good gun, handguns as the bad guy's gun, but here's the thing. an ar-15 is a rifle, so technically it gets to be legislated like a shotgun, like a gun you would go out to hunt birds with, but it ain't a bird hunting gun. is there any logical explanation why your governor will not simple police convene a special session to make that one small change back to texas' history of gun reform? >> listen, i think where you're going wrong is you're looking for some logic to come up out of greg abbott. we have seen over and over and

over, i mean in, your intro, what did you talk about? you talked about the things that they called special sessions. you talked about their priorities, and listen, let me be clear. i don't want anybody to have any questions. the blood of these children is on the hands of the republicans in the state of texas period. no question about it because let's talk about who has been in control in the state of texas for at least the last 30 years. it's been republicans and their failed policies and just this session they decided in the wake of what we saw in el paso that what they wanted to do is they wanted to give more access to firearms. now, this is the same legislature that says that 18-year-olds are not mature enough to go ahead and buy cigarettes so two sessions ago they raised the age from 18 to 21 but a ar-15, which we know, you're not doing any real hunting. if you're a real hunter, let me be clear for those who don't understand, you're not hunting.

it will destroy your meat, okay. there's no reason for this, and honestly just like what we saw over the summer where we hadding to to the federal level to seek some protection as it relate to how rogue the republicans were acting in the state of texas. it's the same thing. we need protections. need an assault ban period on the federal level. that's the only thing that's going to put a check on texas because texas doesn't see this as a priority. they could care he is about those children and he had me be cheer about up other thing. we talk about buffalo and the be racial component and nobody is bring up the fact this is a children full of brown children. i have a question. would it be different because that's the same thing we saw in el paso, it was brown folks that were targeted. would it be different if they were not brown little chirp? would they care more, and the reality is that the state of text jazz a minority/majority state and we need to look ought

for all texans no matter what caller they are and we need to bring up policies that will bring about -- instead of continually falling down the hole of nailed policies. they made sure that our teachers will be packing, the same teachers they don't trust to pick the books for the children? should we have teachers decide what children should be reading or decide to have our teachers carrying gun to protect them in the wake of say an ar-15 being shot up in their classroom when we have law enforcement that's too afraid to go in? >> yeah, indeed. let take it to a national level, brandon. it's not just in the state of texas. mitch mcconnell today, and i will note the attorney general says they are going to investigate. we'll see how it goes rick mitch mcconnell today in response to the fact that a man showed up armed to justice kavanaugh's house which should not happen, let's just be clear, no one should be threatened with gun

violence, including justice kavanaugh, he was mitch mcconnell's response in the urgency he feels about protecting the precious, the supreme court majority. here's the whole purpose of his career to have a right wing majority. here's mitch mcconnell. >> they, actly, exactly why the senate passed legislation shortly after the leak to enhance the police protection for justices and their families. house democrats must pass this bill, and they need to do it today. no matter fiddling around with this. they need to pass it today? brandon, as a survivor of a mass shooting yourself, i just want to left you comment on the fact that mitch mcconnell, the act to support the supreme court justices is precious, must take place today, no more fiddling around, today, but i guess when it comes to fourth graders they

are on their own. >> listen, they are not protecting the lives children in uvalde and elsewhere. we have a problem around, first of all, a catastrophic failure of law enforcement that got children killed in uvalde, and by the way, i'm no stranger to that. a catastrophic failure of law enforcement also got people killed at pulse nightclub. it was their own investigation that said that orlando police department, who refused to confront the shooter at pulse for three hours got 13 people in the bath rooms. 13 people bled how the on the bathroom floor. also majority queer people of color. we have a serious problem that canned be solved by individual mids and they have nowhere to

storm bought they are too busy protecting their. open assets. if we can have a 20th good guy with a gun in the hallway outside a classroom in uvalde, then we have resigned ourselves to the fact that gun violence is inevitable. it is not. it does not have to be this way. unfortunately, it doesn't look like people like mitch mcconnell or congressman biggs or any of the republican leadership in this country have any interest in solving is. a wyoming senator and conservative is rethinking doing some legislating because show recently came out with the nr position but then she got the call k.people started calling her, calling her and now she's thinking about changing her mind. our wonderful representative can

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house january 6th committee will begin its series of public hearings. it's expected to feature riveting new testimony about the attack on the capitol. in addition to british filmmaker nick queston who recorded members of the extry. right wing proud boys attack before and after the attack. they will hear from caroline edwards, a capitol police officer who sustained traumatic brain injury suffering speech problems and fainting spells for months after at attack and last week she spoke with garrett haake about this. >> reporter: what sticks with you? >> the screaming. when someone shows me the footage of january 6th, the sound of the screaming, that just constant, i can't hear it. it takes me back to a very bad place. >> and just tonight the committee announced a date to hold a third public hearing for

wednesday, june 15 at 10:00 a.m. with me now is sandra garza, longtime partner of fallen officer brian sicknick and glen kirchner, former federal prosecutor. sandra, i want to start with you first. i know this won't be easy for to you watch at all. >> no. >> will you be watching the hearings? >> i'll be attending tomorrow. >> what do you hope comes out of it? >> well, confirmation of everything that, you know, i think that we -- you know, especially the -- the officers, the family members who have suffered these terrible tragedies have pretty much known in our hearts all along. >> yeah. >> that trump is the responsible person behind instigating this event. >> you know, i spoke with -- i'll bring glen in in a moment and i want to stick with you for

a moment. i want to bring my producers in. this is five i want to play. there is a sense among some of the current and former capitol police officers that i've just been chatting with recently that one of the things that's most enraging is the kind of gaslight and trying to convince folks that it didn't happen. >> yes. >> that it's a lie that there was this violent insurrection. i mean, these were people who were bloodied and beaten and brutalized by people who were ostensibly supposed to be pro-police and even to have some republicans downplay it and say it wasn't so bad. i want to play for you kevin mccarthy, new audio that's coming out because there's a book that's been published with lots of his info. here's what he said about what should happen to donald trump. this is in the moment of what he said should happen to donald trump after january 6. take a listen. >> the first option is some people have talked about is a censure resolution against the president. both republicans and democrats are drafting these and can be

introduced and co-sponsored and another thing we can discuss is a bipartisan commission to investigate the circumstances surrounding the attack. we need to know and have the facts exactly what happened and when. this needs to be done in a targeted way that doesn't need to distract from keeping the capitol safe over the coming weeks, but what we learned is that people can get in. we learned that people can. we need all the facts and should do it in a bipartisan matter. >> that's kevin mccarthy in realtime. one more soundbite from kevin mccarthy and here's what he was calling on donald trump do that day, take a look. >> i made a phone call to the president telling him what was going on, asking him to tell these people to stop, to make a video and go out. i was very intense and very loud about it. >> he knows it's real. >> yes. >> what do you think of the fact that he's now fighting this committee and planning to

counter program rather than accept its findings? >> i think it's appalling because he knows the truth. he was saying right after the insurrection that he was responsible for what happened, and, you know, then after he, you know, saw that there was still a tremendous amount of support for trump, then he was doing all of this backpedaling. it's appalling because what he and others are doing are -- is destructive to the american people this. man is dangerous. he's dangerous and some of the things that i heard former congressman riggleman talk about, you know, during an interview he gave, getting us a sneak peek into some of the text messages, you know, that he had

gone through, it is terrifying, absolutely terrifying, and these weren't text messages that or i should say conversations that were being had to appease some trump followers to, you know, pacify them and to these qanon conspiracies just, to you know, kind of keep the trump train momentum going. i mean, these were private personal text messages. that's terrifying. >> yeah. >> these are people that are within our nation's government that are making policies, and i don't understand for the life of me how these people can go on and continue to defend this garbage. i don't know if there is any requirement for people that are in congress or working for members of congress in, there's any kind of requirement for them to have any kind of mental

health evaluation, but if there isn't there should be. >> yeah. >> and that's coming from me as a mental health provider. >> yeah. >> i'm terrified about this, and i am definitely terrified about trump running for president again and potentially winning. >> yeah. >> and glen, i mean there's good reap for that. it wasn't just the violent -- the violence that took place on the ground. it was the planning. you know, there's all of this new information. you have john eastman who was sort of one of the intellectuals behind the plan that was well thought out. he's now been ordered to provide more documents 1, 50 new documents to the committee. a federal judge has said he has to do it. judge david cart her this filing about a potential crime that was committed here in addition to the violence dated december 22, 2020. this email considers whether to bring a case that would decide the interpretation of the electoral count act and potentially risk a court finding

that the act binds vice president pence because the attorney concluded that a negative court ruling with would tank the january 6th strategy. he encouraged the legal team to avoid the courts this. email cemented the direction of the january 6th plan. in other words, there was a plan that in theory could be used again it. could be rolled out again in which they are trying to create a legal theory that it is legal to overturn the results of an election. your thoughts? >> yeah, joy, judge david carter, a federal judge from the middle district of california has been virtually screaming from the rooftops in his legal rules litigating the question of whether john -- john eastman is required to give over e-mails because of the crime fraud exception, because they were discussing committing crimes to try to overturn the results of a presidential election, committing crimes, too, in a very real sense to bring an end

to our democracy. judge david carter has been telling us repeatedly that based on the evidence that he's seen that donald trump and john eastman together have committed two federal felony crimes, a conspiracy to defraud the united states and obstructing an official proceeding, the certification of joe biden's win and he made the claims and legal statement of the preponderance of the evidence, more likely than not. what people need to realize is to indict someone for those precise crimes you need less evidence than 51%. you only need probable cause, and i think the department of justice is about to play catchup with where some of these federal judges already are having evaluated the evidence of crimes by donald trump and his co-conspirators it, and i think the j6 public hearings are going to be the catalyst that we need.

once we see the evidence with our own eyes of these crimes. doj will have nowhere to go but to indict these men for what they did. >> because this is not about the past as sandra garza has said. it's about the future, what could happen to us and not what did and what did was horrible. thank you both. really appreciate you. still ahead, with the supreme court poised to gut "roe v. wade," democratic senators are urging president biden to take immediate action to protect reproductive rights. senator elizabeth warren is leading that effort and she joins me next. we're back after this. d she joins me next. we're back after this. sensodyne nourish has a bio-active mineral action that nourishes and strengthens teeth. patients should act now to prevent sensitivity in the future. the new sensodyne nourish will help patients invest in healthier teeth. finding the perfect designer isn't easy. but, at upwork, we found her. she's in austin between a dog named klaus and her favorite shade of green. it's actually salem clover. and you can find her right now on upwork.com

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y with were very aware of the fact that women were suffering in a variety of ways because of abortion being against the law. women did awful things out of fear and desperation. we knew that some would be injured. some would die. many people around them, including children that they already her would suffer, so we thought we can be of use. you need an abortion, we'll help you. call this number and ask for jane. >> that was a clip from a new documentary about the janes, an underground abortion network creed out of necessity in the 1960s and while it's an inspiring portrait of a group of women fighting their

subjugation, it's also a look back into a dark time our country's past, and, unfortunately, it's newly relevant again with the looming supreme court decision that almost certainly will overturn "roe v. wade." congress could act to codify roe into law but there's no chance of that happening right now. in fact, senate republicans have previewed their plan to enact a national abortion ban if they take over after the november elections. a group of senators led by senator elizabeth warren and patty murray are asking president biden to act now. in a letter today they wrote women across the country are about to lose their fundamental right to abortion. they deserve nothing less than a whole government response. senator elizabeth warren joins me now. you were nodding during the clip. >> yes. >> that's the past. not the distant past. >> that's exactly right. that's the past of the world i grew up with when i was a little girl, a teerpg, a the idea that

five extremists on the united states want to take us back to that world. want to treat women as second class citizens. i get f.congress could act but we just don't have the votes right now >> extive action. what do you want him toll do. >> put a list, many patty murray and i, all democratic senators, of course, and here's a list of what you can do, mr. president, and making sure that there's more access to medicaid abortions of the right now there's restrictions on the available. okay. let's get rid of those. that can be done through the

effie. it's really the agent the cy. it's the whole of government is our response. >> yeah. >> another part that we can make sure that people who receive medicaid for their medical care get the full range of services that by law are supposed to be available to them, including choice of provider and that means enough of these states deciding planned parenthood can't operate within their borders, so it's become aggressive and pushing back on that. what did can be done and what if the federal government looks into the possibility, can we get clinics there, can we get and

saying that if an employee lives in a state that's restricting access to abortion, there will be a law that says not only will that woman's health care be covered and transportation will be covered. >> and it's illegal to least state, some states where they say they are used to being on base. >> for example, there are now apps that track a woman's period. instead of those being just available to the works the fact can remind the sites and clarify under hipaa and other laws that those data have to be held private, not be sold to others, cannot be made accessible to others who may want to interfere with that woman's individual health decisions and would be able to monitor her. >> yeah. >> so there's the -- the whole point of this is to say there are a lot of different

directions where the government could go. we want to see this administration all hands on deck. >> yeah. >> this is a five-alarm fire. we need to be fight, fight, fighting. >> what has been the response from the administration? >> well, we just got the letter to them so i want to be fair. we've just gotten it over there, but i'm very hopeful because i feel a real sense of democrats united here. >> yeah. >> you know, look at it this way. the republicans -- how did we get in this mess, and part of answer is because the republicans have fought for this for a long time. >> yeah. >> they have had along-term strategy to get one extremist after another on to the supreme court, and ultimately, of course, stealing a supreme court seat, rushing through another supreme court nominee and having supreme court nominees as i recall who all said "roe v. wade" was settled law and they weren't going to interfere. >> yeah. >> they lied. >> we got all that done, but the point is they have been after this aggressively, hard,

fighting it for years and years and years. we have counted on the other side on the supreme court to protect our individual rights. well, it's pretty clear we better stop doing that, and it's pretty clear right now we better be willing to fight back twice as hard. >> yeah. >> as the republicans fought to get here because this is about protecting all of us. >> yeah, indeed. >> and we don't want to go back to a future where women are having to essentially be in an abortion underground when there's a crisis pregnancy to have to risk your doctor turning you in or some, you know, some religious extremist that knows you're pregnant or people tracking your periods, it truly is not what america is supposed to be in the modern era. >> joy, we are not going back, not now, not ever. >> amen, sister. appreciate you, senator elizabeth warren, thank you. always a pleasure. >> always good. >> coming up next, what's the message for democrats after yesterday's california primary? we'll be right back. yesterday's california primary we'll be right back.

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housing affordable and crime are their top concerns. that means rich folks want the encampments gone and middle class folks want affordable housing. alex villanueva dubbed as the donald trump of l.a. will face a runoff. he campaigned on hiring more police, cracking down on homelessness and opposing woke reform officers and he's been investigated for allowing officers to engage in habitual violence and misconduct without consequence and rejecting oversight. he calls that a mayor. san francisco voters recalled reformist district attorney chesa beaudoin over claims that beaudoin's policies were makings things worse. his replacement will be

announced in a couple of weeks but that person is expected to be a pros gressive as well. let me play what president biden said about last night's results. >> i think the voters sent a clear message last night. both parties have to step up and do something about crime as well as gun violence. >> was that the message, christine pelosi of last night's results because they seem to be kind a little bit consistently not the message. what do you think? >> well, in san francisco where we had, of course, speaker nancy pelosi win overwhelmingly for another term in congress and the vote remembers in a mood. it started a year ago when he with the recall, the governor's recall when people were mad about covid and lockdowns and school being out and wanted to get some control back and we said then the democratic party,

you have to lead with party affiliation second. they were renaming rather than reopening schools so the school board members were recalled. the d.a. was recalled, not because he's a bad guy, a wonderful defense attorney but the victims of crime are empathy. if you are some of our moms who lost their kids to gun violence, who are concerned about prosecution, or the aapi community, who was concerned about the violence, you know the da can solve all those problems. but you want a little more empathy. that would be true for his successor as well. >> don, and don always has a great shorten -- it says respect the locals, i think that's what your shirt says. what do you think? it's kind of easy in the eric adams era for -- and of course joe biden's history, with the crime bill, this is his sweet spot, the easily say, oh this is a message that democrats need to be tougher on crime.

but it's not clear that this is the whole message. do you think there's a risk of overriding what is happening. these are very california specific, communities specific -- and america feel crappy overall issues. >> these are very california and l.a. specific issues. but if you track what is happening with progressive, reform base prosecutors through the country, you have to remember a couple of things. first of all, there is zero evidence -- and this is perhaps burying the lead here -- they're zero evidence that criminal reform policies have led to a spike in crime. as a matter of fact, there is evidence that it has gone the other way. were criminal reform policies do give the opportunity for is for more conservative on crime minded politicians to make real political marks out of these people. you can beat them on these messages. but we are also not leading with, outside of the evidence against saying that criminal justice reform leads to a spike in crime, but we are also now really talking about is the fundamental idea that chesa

boudin and a lot of these reform minded prosecutors have governed through the pandemic. there's been an infinitesimal spike in property crime, break-ins, and this is the type of thing that san franciscans don't like. they don't like that. these are liberal people. they want women's rights. they want lgbtqia rights. they don't really like homelessness. they don't like tripping over people of color in the street. but homelessness is not necessarily attached to criminal justice reform. by the way, it's not a crime to before. it's not a crime to be homeless, particularly at the time of spiking rent. so, you have got to recognize those progressive prosecutors, that this does make you a political mark, but people should understand that there is no evidence between reform prosecution and a rise in crime. >> let me start with you and then go back to christine. because this brings me to the l.a. mayor's race. homelessness and crime are also big issues and that race. so, you have this gentlemen, caruso, who was a republican, but he has gotten some celebrity endorsements.

so has karen bass. let me be fair. they have both gotten celebrity endorsements. it's the battle of kim kardashian and them versus -- it's different. but what do you think -- the fact that caruso is ahead at this point. what does that mean? and how do we read that? >> this is -- there is a lot of money to interest in los angeles in san francisco. and it's not cool for people to live out in the excerpt as much, like i do right now. when people come back to the city, we've seen that movement over the last 20 years in american states. there are a lot of white, upper middle class voters who are coming back into the city and want to see people who will protect their tax rates, they want to see people who will protect their personal property. and talking about being tough on crime. i think that's what you are seeing with caruso. i don't think this is a rebuff of karen bass. but she should be very happy that she had the opportunity to survive until november and gin

up that latinx and african american women voter base. >> california's inching state. it is a majority, minority state. but the majority are latino. african americans are only about six or seven or 8%. maybe 9% of the population. it's a complex state. it's sort of a state that looks like our future in this country. what do you make of this mayors race and what each of these candidates is going to need to do and win? >> well, karen bass -- first of all, he's not going to have $40 million to spend, like caruso. so, how do you make the runoff with [inaudible] almost 1 million dollars a point, that's how. so, she is the author of the george floyd policing act, which passed the house and is the basis for the president's executive order that shows a model of how she would govern l.a.. she's a consensus builder. she started three or four nonprofits and lifted a lot of people up. so, people of karen bass. she's very, very popular. she will do well. she's and these consultants neeo stop with the willie horton junior active darkening her

face an edge and trying to scare people. because i just think that it is racist, it's six, this is strong. it's going to backfire on him. so, i think that we have a lot to do. it's important to remember that we have to speak to peoples hearts. if people are upset, if people are anguished, you gotta lean into that. but at the same time, not let that be an excuse to say, we are going to criminalize poverty, we are going to criminalize homelessness. and you've got to get to the root causes. >> yeah. >> and i think karen bass will do that well. i think the democrats will do that well, which is why i think we will win a november. >> all right, we shall see. great panel. we will have you guys back to talk more politics. we love cali politics as well. don calloway and christine pelosi, we will be right back. l be right back.

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