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stephanie ruhle, we'll be watching "the 11th hour." >> that's late. >> that does it for us this morning and this week. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage right now. good morning. 10:00 a.m. eastern. 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. for the first time the committee investigating the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol is laying out the findings in detail and in public. the committee is arguing former president trump who lit the flame of the attack. also, more than two weeks after the mass shooting at robb elementary school the uvalde school district police chief is speaking out about what happened in a new interview. we are also seeing brand new video obtained by telemundo what
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it was like on that day as students ran out of the school for safety. tomorrow thousands of people are expected to attend rallies in the country organized by march for our lives. we'll be speaking with a co-founder of march for our lives. inflation rising at its fastest pace since 1981. and we begin this friday morning with that historic hearing into the attack on the u.s. capitol. over two hours the committee outlined how then president trump quote summoned, assembled the mob and lit the flame of this attack. in video testimony we heard from both the president's former attorney general and own daughter. they said they did not believe
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in the false claims of voter fraud. >> i made it clear i did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out this stuff which i told the president was [ bleep ]. >> how did that affect your judgment? >> it affected my perspective. i respected attorney general barr. so i accepted what he was saying. >> we also heard from two witnesses who were at the capitol on the 6th of january. caroline edwards a capitol hill police officer believed to be the first injured in the riot described the injuries suffered on the front lines and nick questen with the far right extremist group proud boys. his testimony included never before seen footage of what it
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was like as the proud boys made the way to the capitol. committee vice chair liz cheney said there's evidence that when president trump learned of the threats to hang vice president mike pence trump said, quote, maybe our supporters have the right idea and that he quote deserves it. ali vitale, josh letterman, "the washington post" congressional investigations reporter and barbara mcquaid, former attorney in michigan. ali, what seems to be reverb rating around capitol the most? >> reporter: yesterday was a day that many of these lawmakers looking forward to and anticipating. the culmination of a year's worth of investigating and i was in the room for a good chink of that hearing last night.
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most of the vibe in the room expectant. wanting to see what was laid out by the committee but the entire mood changed with the video that really brought everyone in that room back to what happened here january 6th putting people right back in that head space. many lawmakers who were in the room were in the house chamber. the gallery group as they call themselves came together last night so they could in some of their words continuing healing or bearing witness to history, this is a personal form of accountability for what happened on january 6th. i think that video in and of itself is one of the moments you felt everyone in the room catch a chill up the spine. i think the other piece of this, too, the ramifications for sitting lawmakers. we had a new revelation that the head of the freedom caucus scott
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perry seeking a presidential pardon trying to install trump allies the department of justice to help overturn the election results. perry is not the only lawmaker that the committee has information like that about. we knew that about congressman biggs and perry's office saying that's not a true claim. at the end of the day when you have people seeking pardons the committee laying it out like that the open question is why do you need a presidential pardon pre-emptively? we have more to come, jose. >> we're also learning about who will appear in the next public hearing on monday? >> reporter: yes. a fox news former employee will be a person to testify on monday focusing on the way that the
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trump ally orbit pushed the big lie about the 2020 election. that's one of several threads that the committee is following multiple pieces of this for a year and now bundling them altogether but the focus on the big lie is critically important because we saw them to try to establish the former president's mind set and hammering home the idea that he knew he lost and we have prosecutors and lawyers on the panel but that's important to establish mind set. clearly that's a key point that the committee is trying to hammer home that the former president knew he lost and pushing the lie. >> jacklyn, what do you make of the new details coming out of the committee last night? >> it was gripping and as ali laid out i think cheney and
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thompson led a trail of bread crumbs that the committee is confirming through the investigation. but i do think at the end of the day the most powerful moments were not the findings that they laid out but the testimony that you heard in the own words of trump senior aides and those closest to him that indicted him in this legal case that you see that we seem to see the committee trying to make which is that there was bloishing a good feith basis that trump knowingly worked to defraud the american people and people time and time again told him, i haven't ka trump, william barr, that the claims he was making
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were unsubstantiated and continued to make that nevertheless. >> barbara, do you think anything we learned last night could have an impact on the justice department's investigation? >> i do. i don't know that -- some people have said this is an audience of one and all about persuading merrick garland. he admitted he's watching because he might get leads in watching this. the biggest challenge the justice department has in carmona charges is showing the criminal intent. he knew he lost and still tried to perpetrate a fraud on the american people and learned new things last night for leads to the justice department in that regard. we had short video clips at the get-go with insiders in the trump campaign. a data people. lawyers.
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an aide and william barr all saying that they knew that donald trump lost and told him that he lost and yet even after he knew that he continues to state repeatedly that he had won. that is a critical part of a criminal case against him and i think appears to be in addition to the oh evidence already in the public domain we learned about that that makes it difficult i think for people to believe that trump genuinely believed he had won. >> how criminally and you mentioned that how could criminally what the committee is clearly laying out and criminally could affect the president? >> i think two potential crimes. one is conspiracy to on instruct an official proceeding and heard that evidence last night. trump summoned the mob. assembled the mob. and then lit the flame.
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that part i think could show an intent to obstruct an official proceeding and proof the corrupt element necessary there. you need the evidence we just discussed there. i think the other bigger crime that could be charged here potentially is conspiracy to defraud the united states and that is the mob piece of this is only one piece. liz cheney laid out seven paths to stealing this election. that would be the larger umbrella scheme. that means using fraud, a lie, to try to obstruct the proper functioning of government. that will require proving only one of any of those seven threads. if it's the mob that could be a crime. if it's theal temp nate slate of electors that could be a crime. if the justice department can
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prove any one of those seven paths to victory for donald trump they can prove the crime of conspiracy to defraud the united states. >> josh, how close do you think that president biden watched? >> not closely at all according to president biden who said he didn't have time and the president was very busy as the hearing taking place in california. he was being whisked from meeting to meeting and then a didn'ter and didn't see it in realtime but told that the president the parts he doesn't get to see he will be briefed and reading the news developments and up to date on it. i think that hands off approach is deliberate. a person with the knowledge of the white house's thinking on this telling me they don't want to get too involved in weighing in on this minute by minute for two reasons. one is because of what barbara mcquaid was talking about.
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there's ongoing deliberations whether to bring criminal charges and the white house doesn't want to inject partisanship into that process and don't want to give republicans an excuse to say president biden and the democrats are using the hearings for blatantly political purposes and trying to main an arms length and the white house does hope that it will have an influence on the midterm elections both by reminding the voters what the republican party looks like and drawing a contrast with former president trump's behavior and that reminding that president biden is not trump. >> trump made no orders to deploy the national guard to protect the capitol and vice president pence was giving out the orders to put down the riot. how significant is this?
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>> reporter: the political concern on the white house for milley to make it look like pence was not in charge and trump was. the lawmakers shook their heads. some gasped. one person said jesus christ. it was something that really struck the people in the room and i asked congresswoman jayapal about it after. her answer really struck me. listen. >> i don't think that definitively. i suspect definitively. i think maybe that was the reaction to mark milley's statement because it was so clear again that pence couldn't do anything and that mike pence did it despite donald trump. that's what i think she was
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saying. >> reporter: so again it was really loud out there but she said it's a strange thing. i feel like i knew those things but i didn't have the details. the lawmakers in the room that experienced this day firsthand learning information that feeds into the knowledge of how they were in the circumstances and what the white house was doing at the time. >> aloi, josh, jacklyn and barbara, thank you all for being with us. breaking news from washington. the white house say it is cdc will lift a requirement that air travellers get a negative covid test before entering the u.s. they say the departure testing requirement will end this sunday. they said it was stopping people from traveling to the united states. it is a big change. still ahead, the police chief for the uvalde school district speaks out about what
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19 past the hour. first interview since the deadly uvalde shooting that took the lives of 19 children and 2 teachers the district police chief descreened the 7 minutes between the beginning of the massacre and the moment they killed the gunman. he said he ran into the school with the glock handgun and went in without body armor and left the campus and police radios
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behind on purpose. he also says he did not consider himself the incident commander at the scene. "the new york times" said the officers waiting in the hallway longer than an hour for equipment but they knew that there were kids alive inside of that classroom. the reporting is based on analysis of documents and video and transcripts of body camera footage. nbc news has not yet verified the footage. we have footage of showing chin children sprinting out of robb elementary and parents there. you can see a border patrol agent rushing into the school. he is the one in the pink shirt. meanwhile today this uvalde the funeral will be held for eva
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mireles. joining us is two guests. james, let me start with you. tell us about what the uvalde school police chief told you. >> you have covered some of the main points. he said there's criticism about the incident commander for not breaching the room. he said he was not the incident commander. never called himself that and never issued an order not to breach the room and made that decision to leave the radios behind to have both hands on the firearm to shoot accurately at the suspect. he said he believed he was the first officer responding and following protocol there but
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that leaves him then without any communications, without the other officers but the other main point i think he highlighted is the doors were locked and that some measures we have taken to respond to active shooter situations made it more difficult. the doors are difficult to break in from the outside to protect people inside the classroom from a gunman if they're outside but because the gunman was inside it was more difficult for police to get inside. they did not have extraction tools or keys and caused the delay according to the chief. >> yeah. it took more than an hour to figure out how to open that door with key after key. his decision to leave behind
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both radios which i understand you clip it on to the bell or the lapel or something, that decision was made consciously by the chief? >> those were his statements to us. he made a decision not to take them because he wanted both hands on the firearm and told us that he was experienced in the school and radio communications were difficult in some buildings in the school anyway. we have not corroborated that information but i believe the story pointed to those issues. these are things to be sorted out in the investigation but that's what he is saying in the first public statements and the first law enforcement officer outside of the texas department of public safety to put his comments on the record. >> yeah. that's an important thing.
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clint, what do you see when you see what he told our colleagues? there's so many questions about the decision to leave both radios behind to shoot. you clip it on. i'm not second guessing but what do you see what when you see the statements that he made? >> i think there's three key things, jose. one is the radios and the first person on the scene. how do you communicate without a radio, especially to folks on the outside? left him in a situation he couldn't get the supplies and equipment. no one was sure who have in charge. and then the article -- all articles seem to say he used a creme phone. that is not a best way to lead the group inside the building. the second part i find baffling
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is why run in with no body armor? this is a major after action review to see what are the proper steps responding to a call for active shooters. the third thing i do think it's important to note. the chief says getting up and cites he tried called to the individual and had the name and tried to speaking to him through the door and led to gunshots fired at the officers and the decision i think was he was waiting for protective gear and speaks to the problem of training for active shooters but the threat has more high powered weapons and the advantage over the law enforcement officers responding to that threat. having watched the video in
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buffalo the security lostz his life. he did what he was told. fired shots at the shooter. the shooter turned the weapon on the security guard. we have to relook and goes to the bigger picture why do we have civilians 18-year-olds with body armor and multiple weapons and high capacity magazines? this is not right. the cops are in a position to respond to this and what do we expect the law enforcement officers to do? >> true. in this specific case he wasn't wearing body armor. didn't make the semi into automatic. one person with an ar. and there were people out there with ars, people had m-4s, had
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body armor and didn't act. >> yeah. but, jose, listen to the point. definitely mistakes made with radio communication and who was the incident commander. a complete breakdown and mistake. we ask law enforcement to respond to snaefrs with shooters armed with military grade weapons and same thing that cops have and asking them to eliminate threats quickly. when trained in the army as a young lieutenant if you show up with a handgun you know what they would tell you to do? seek cover. bring protective gear. this is what we are teaching the law enforcement to do and they're brave in this response. i'm sure folks try to go in and breach that. definitely with the radios that was a break down.
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who was the incident commander, a break down but we have to look at what we ask law enforcement to do. >> thank you both for being with us this morning. we are following breaking news. the dow down almost 800 points. right now after very disappointing inflation report. we'll talk about that next. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports." what goes on it. usually. and in it. mostly. here to meet those high standards is the walgreens health and wellness brand. over 2000 high quality products. rigorously tested by us. real world tested by you. and delivered to your door in as little as one hour. think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no, he's seizing the moment with merrill.
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look and understand this ron insana. it is always great to see you. the news is troubling. explain what it means for everybody who knows what it means getting gas or gose ris but what is big picture? >> inflation didn't peak as we have suggested it might have a month ago. every category went up in price and even used cars that started to come down. what it does is putting pressure on the federal reserve to be more aggressive with the interest rate increases. why you see long term interest rates rise dramatically, it is a combination of worry that inflation will continue to rise
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and the fed will do more than maybe is necessary and drive us into a recession so it's a double hit to the markets and potentially to a certain extent to the economy. >> so kind of distilling it down to people who see the increase every day when they go to the market, the price of milk, chicken, eggs, the basic food basket we all need in the homes the gasoline going up. what are the things that is there any light at the end of the tunnel? >> should be. the real problem in my mind we have a supply problem. if you look at -- go to a car dealer waiting three to six months. the war in ukraine has distorted
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the food and energy markets worldwide putting upward pressure on those. the food side is you are starting to home prices starting to ease a little bit because the cost of buying a home gone up so much. we are seeing prices beginning to fall in housing. but that's a lagging indicator to a certain extent. in the interim the fed has one tool and it is raising interest rates to knock the economy to a growth pace that will put downward pressure on demand and people buy less and bring down inflation but we have a global spli problem. >> thank you for being with us. >> yes, sir. president biden calls it ground breaking. a new pact he is set to reveal
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for expanding temporary worker programs, expanding legal channels like refugee resettlement and asking countries along main migration routes to fortify asylum processing. with us now to talk about this roberta jay sobson, former ambassador and she was also the border czar in the biden administration. thank you for being with us. do you think this new declaration that the white house says is important could make a difference? >> thank you for having me. it is nice to be with you. i think that it is really significant for a couple different reasons. it looks at migration as a
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regional problem. we think about the u.s.-mexico border but 6 million venezuelans left the country putting a huge burden on other countries in the region and they come from outside the region and come all the way up through south america to the u.s. border. i think the first thing that's important is that it's a regional document and endorsed by many leaders and the focus on stabilization, helping the countries that are already housing many migrants and refugees so that they can either stay there or move to a country in the region with a labor shortage or work that's possible for them and opening the avenues for temporary work visas is significant because by closing
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president biden into including dictatorships. the relationship with mexico and that president who can call a senator of the united states a blackmailer and worse is mexico participating and cooperating with the united states in a way that could in some way help the situation? >> yeah. i think it's a really important question and regardless of whether the president attended the summit or not mexico is extremely important and extremely cooperative to work with the u.s. before the summit and how to manage migration flows. mexico is just as affected as the united states is because people coming from elsewhere stay in mexico even regardless of whether or not our own programs work but we saw real engagement by the mexican
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government in the declaration of los angeles despite the fact that the president deciding whether or not to come. that was real cooperation and collaboration. i think that we have seen mexico engage on the issue and the lead through participation is a little bit of a sideshow. it is important. we want leaders to be there but regardless mexico is engaging on the critical issues of the region. >> thank you. always a pleasure to be with you. >> thank you. up next, going live to ukraine with a desperate attempt to keep control of two cities in the donbas. we'll talk about what happens if the cities fall. a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place.
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tanks, russian military vehicles is constantly getting additions. this is new. so is this one here. some 200 ukrainian soldiers are said to be dying every day right now and ukrainian officials warn they're outgunned on the eastern front lines and need more advanced weapons than what they have and what they expect to get from the west. senior aide to president zelenskyy said that they need some 300 rocket launch systems to match russian power on the eastern front. in mariupol fresh water is difficult to access. the uk warns they are at risk of a major cholera outbreak. today we were able to speak to some bakers, farmers business
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owners in kyiv. the stories are gut wrenching. the worries for the future still growing. listen. >> translator: all of the -- most was -- it was very difficult to find products. it was very difficult. to get everything it was -- because delivery was very effective and it was difficult. >> reporter: it is easy to get bogged down in numbers and military terms when you're covering a war, but war is about people. these are the boots, presumably, of a russian soldier who is no longer alive. that woman you heard from, she's a reminder that, again, everything happening in ukraine, it is impacting so many innocent people. we met another woman at the market down from here, just down the road from here, she was selling dried fruit and nuts underneath a tent that was just riddled with bullet holes. she was from bucha and her village was violently attacked
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by russian forces. jose? >> ellison barber, i wish i could have recorded this story of yours, you have so much information, so much visual information and it -- i thank you for being with us. ambassador, how important is it for ukraine to hold these two cities? >> well, jose, nothing is absolutely crucial. what is important for the ukrainians to continue the fight which they intend to do. we have seen that the ukrainians have fought very hard in mariupol, as ellison just described. there is big problems there for the russians who have now taken over mariupol. the russians are trying very hard, they're focusing everything they have got on these two cities that you just described. severodonetsk and luhansk, and that's -- there they are, and that is a demonstration of the russians' desperation to have something, something there for vladimir putin to say he has
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are expected to attend rallies and marches across the country, organized by march for our lives, in response to the recent string of mass shootings. nearly 50,000 people are expected to attend the main rally in washington, d.c. demonstrators will be calling on lawmakers to pass new gun laws. joining any now is david hogg, co-founder of march for our lives, a student at marjory stoneman douglas high in parkland when the gunman killed 17 people in february 2018. david, good to see you. leaders from march for our lives recently held over 60 meetings on capitol hill with lawmakers. how do you feel about any possibilities of anything happening on capitol hill regarding guns? >> i think it is more possible than it has been in the past 10 to 15 years but the reality is the only reason it is possible is because of the work that groups like march for our lives and so many others at the state level and local level have done
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with everyday people including people like nea and aft, teachers across the country keeping up the pressure on the senate. >> you wrote an op-ed for fox news, you say, quote, i love this country, and for it to function we need to balance responsibility with freedom. is this what a reasonable goner believes too? i'm asking that you stand up and say this truth. how do you bridge the divide when it comes to guns and why was it important to reach out to that particular audience? >> i think the reality is, look, jose, we all agree, we may have different ways of resolving this issue, but as americans we agree, we want to help protect our kids, our grandparents and everyone that we love in their communities on a daily basis and balance the responsibility of gun ownership with the freedom to not be shot, the freedom not to be shot in our country. and that's why we're marching with republicans across the country, you know.
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we have many republicans, including even people like joe walsh, michael steele and others who are going to be out there, with us, either in person, or in solidarity with us that have publicly spoken out about that. if you're an american, if you're an american that believes in that right not to be shot and believes in gun safety, i'm not saying if you're a democrat or a republican, but believes we need action and not debate, march with us tomorrow on june 11th in over 450 cities and washington, d.c. across the country. if you would like to join us text march to 954, march to 954954. we need everybody with us. >> and, david, what feels different about this year versus 2018? >> i think right now what is different about this time is americans across the country are more fed up now than honestly ever. i have never gotten so many messages from people who say, david, i called you a crisis actor in 2018 and gun-grabbing communist, for example. i was wrong. and i may not agree with you on
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everything, but i do agree we need to do something because this madness needs to end. when i was outside of senator john cornyn's office, who i encourage everyone listening to please call and ask for him to do something about gun safety in this country, because he's really the key to all of this happening, i never protested in texas before and not had over a dozen counterprotesters with ar-15s outside yelling at us. the counterprotests had more people outside the nra convention than inside, even with the former president of the united states speaking there. change is coming, but the reason why is coming isn't because senators had a change of heart, so we're marching on june 11th for the beginning and not the end, but showing up every single month after that, leading up to the election as well and with we need to stay engaged. march with us and help support us. we don't have the same funding as the other national organizations, we're young people and survivors.
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if you would like to donate, go to march for our lives.com. >> thank you for being with us. i appreciate it. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. reach me on twitter and instagram. follow the show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. up next, special coverage of the january 6th hearing. andrea mitchell will be joined by katy tur and hallie jackson to analyze what happened and what's next. ze what happened and what's next. he can't live in a world where the incumbent administration stays in power based on its view, unsupported by specific evidence, that the election -- that there was fraud in the election. >> it affected my perspective. i respect attorney general

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