in the classrooms where the attack took place during that one hour and 70 minutes when police failed to act. nbc news however has not seen or verified that material. in his first interview, pete erin john doe, the chief of police for the uvalde to school district told texas tribune this week that he decided not to bring his radio with him when he entered robb elementary school in pursuit of a gunman. that decision may have contributed to the communication problems between the dozens of local, state, and federal officers at the scene that day. even if aaron donda had his radio, the new york times analysis found that local police radio systems did not function properly inside the school. the texas department of public safety and had previously identified him as the incident commander needing the response of the team. arredondo is disputing that now too. he told the texas tribune that he did not consider himself the incident commander at the scene,

nor did he have any issues to order. joining me now from uvalde, texas is nbc's correspondent antonia hilton. walk us through these new details and revelations. who was actually in charge at the scene that they? >> good morning michael. that is really the question, right? i think one really stuck out to me about that interview with the was that he did not know that he was the incident commander. in other words he had no idea that he would be in charge. you also mentioned that he left his radio behind, he said that was because he wanted to hands free to handle his firearm. he also described praying as he tested a key, after key, and it took him a while to find one that would actually work for the right classroom. law enforcement experts when the tribune gave them all these details, they were pretty shocked. from their perspective they say that the leader of a school

districts law enforcement, the chief of police should know that they would be incident commander in this kind of incident. they should have keys to every single one of the classrooms on the campus, like the one behind me here. they should know that they need to have the radio on to communicate with all the people who would be on the ground that day. while his answers in this interview shed some light on the length of time, on the chaos that happened on the ground that day, those answers give us just as many questions about why the team was functioning that way, if they were critical errors or lack of preparedness there. now he is speaking out after a long stretch of being essentially missing in action. there are so many more questions for the chief of police here in eovaldi, michael. >> those questions apparently have led the justice department to announce that it has began its own review. what do we know about the team heading that review and what do you think they are going to be investigating? >> that's right.

so the doj has launched this review. i should know that this is not a criminal investigation. this review is essentially a panel of about nine people, former fbi, law enforcement, security, mental health experts who are going to review law enforcement's response here in uvalde. that review is going to ultimately lead to a report and some recommendations about improvements that can be made. again, it is not criminal. at the same time here in the state, lawmakers on thursday launched their own review. this review is going to be happening behind closed doors, they're going to be bringing in witnesses for interviews, they will look at physical evidence. they are also going to producing a report. now at multiple levels the chief of police is at the center of several investigations. as of now he is not stepping out of his role, either as the chief of police for the school district or is a city council member in uvalde. >> antonio hilton in uvalde, texas, thank you very much. the house passed --

neither of which will be taken up by the senate. but there is more optimism for a building negotiated by a bipartisan group. democratic congressman chris of connecticut is leading those talks. he told nbc news yesterday that group is quote, very, very, very close to an agreement. meanwhile, people are gathering right now in a parkland, florida and elsewhere in the country for a nationwide march for our lives rally in support of gun reform. that group led by parkland school shooting survivor david hogg has also been sounding hopeful about what has been happening in congress. in a new interview he tells us that there are still a lot of work ahead. >> well i hope to come from this is for people to show up every year and realized that you need to show up because this is going to take time. don't lose hope. even just one law can save one life, that is progress. >> you can catch the rest of

that interview at 4 pm on aranesp east -- joining me now is joe walsh, he served as a congressman for the state of illinois. but he is no longer affiliated with the republican party. he's also the host of the podcast white flag with joe walsh. joe, it's good to see you my friend. welcome to the show. let's talk about david hogg and the coalition of gun rights activists that have emerged since the parkland shooting. you have even personally commended them and their work. what do you think sets them apart from others? >> michael, good to be with you. i need to start with this. this saturday morning i'm still angry. i am and angry gun owner. you know me, michael. i'm a child in hostin from my cold dead hands kind of a gut gun rights activist but i am angry that, like so many other responsible gun owners around the country, that here we are

almost three weeks after eovaldi. can 12 senate republicans still haven't done anything. i commend david hogg and all the other gun safety activists on the left because they have been carrying this fight, michael, for the past four years and then some. and years before that as well. it is time for responsible gun owners like myself to get off of our bottom and be part of this search for common ground. it has to happen. >> i want to pick up on the point that you made about being both angry and a charlton has hidden gun owner. you are talking about supporting david hogg and you quoted a tweet yesterday, though we disagree more than we

agree, i'm proud to be marching tomorrow with david hogg. it is about something bigger than us, it is about finding common ground. what do you disagree on and where have you found that common ground with him and his movement? >> it's a great question. i won't avoid it. i will answer right now. i want to say one thing first, i am marching with guttenberg and david hogg and thousands of other march for our live young people, people of all ages because, and i do disagree. think about this michael, i will be marching to today in washington, d.c. with people with whom i disagree much more than i agree. this is, i am marching because this is about something bigger than us. where do we agree? we agree on this. to me this is where the senate republicans have to get off the table and get to work. we need to move heaven and earth before a gun is brought

to make sure that someone who shouldn't have a gun doesn't have a gun. universal background checks, do it. red flag laws, do them. things like them. training, michael, before an 18 or 21 year old can walk into a dealer and grab a gun. that 18 or 21 year old should be trained in how to use that gun. everything we can do before, michael, that gun is purchased, i think that's where the common ground is. >> i want to pick up on that point. a lot of people are sounding positive about compromise. a lot of people are running around and talking about this bipartisan group, that bipartisan group, but the bills that are coming forward won't include things like universal background checks and restrictions on assault weapons, high capacity magazines. some of the things that you said that we should come together on.

just how serious should the american people think our leaders are about this and how much more do we need to pressure some of these people to, as you said, get in the game. >> the american people should believe right now that our leaders, especially our republican leaders, are not serious. they are not serious at all. nothing serious, michael, will get done. remember that i am a crazy gun at the kept saying this right now. nothing will get done, nothing serious until responsible gun owners like myself get up, get pissed off, get organized, get mobilized, and pressure republicans. until that happens we will not get serious reform. >> joe walsh, we know that you're doing all those things, bringing the pressure and you

are out there marching. we appreciate. >> you too michael. >> coming up, we will take you live to one of those march for our lives rallies in parkland, florida where the movement began. people are starting to gather at the rally to demand action on gun safety. plus, and what we still need to find out about the january 6th insurrection. i will talk to former house representative. plus, we will look at the banned book club, including give the boy a gun, a poignant and painful novel about a school shooting that is tragically all too timely. next we head to ukraine for a live report, this is velshi on msnbc. msnbc. msnbc. ets power? you try crazy things... ...because you're crazy... ...and you like it. you get bigger...

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russia's war in ukraine and in the asian which putin planned would take just three days. despite not being able to capture the entire country, putin is showing no sign of agreeing to a cease-fire. fighting continues to be focused in the eastern, in the donbas, and ukraine officials say three to shoot battles are raging in a key city in luhansk. the last major eastern ukrainian city not fully under russian control. ukrainian officials are also warning that the russian occupied city of mariupol, or rather the ruins of that city is at a serious risk of a cholera outbreak. meanwhile, russian state media reports that three volunteer fighters in ukraine's foreign legion, two british citizens, any moroccan citizen, who were captured by russian forces have been sentenced to death. joining me now in ukraine's news correspondent ellison. what more can you tell us about

these death sentences and the geopolitical reaction so far? >> hey michael, so this is something that the british government is calling an illegal sham sentencing, a sham trial for the entire process. what's happened here is that courts, so-called court in the unrecognized so-called republic, they sentence three men, two british citizens and one moroccan citizen to death, accusing them of participating in terrorist and mercenary activities. ukrainian officials, they say that these three men were all legitimate members of ukraine's armed forces here. therefore, they are not mercenaries at our but prisoners of war. in that case that means that they are entitled, under the geneva convention, to certain protections as prisoners of war. one of them being a fair trial. this trial, the charges they were announced on june six against the three men, they were sentenced to death three

days later on june 9th. a lot of western governments are coming out saying they're very concerned about what is happening here. they are also worried that this could be some sort of pattern, or the start of one with amnesty international, they have said what they're seeing here, it seems like it is potentially a war crime. i want to show you where i'm standing because russia has been accused of committing over 11,000 were crimes since they launched their first scale invasion back in february. behind me is one example. this is a cultural hub, it was a concert hall, a place where people come for events, your music, to see place. inside this area that you are looking, this used to be the main hall. this was a stage, now all of it is gone. local officials will tell us that russian forces targeted this building in particular with missiles, heavy artillery, you see evidence of shrapnel, bullets from shelling. almost everywhere you look you

see that. after this area was liberated a few weeks ago by ukrainian forces, some musicians actually came back to this place, back to the rubble and started to play. i was able to speak with the head of the city's cultural department, i asked her what she hoped people see those videos now, or seen them in the past, what do they take away from then. listen to what she told us. >> [interpreter] i want them to understand that we are still hopeful. even the bomb's, the rapes, the destruction, the death, our so-called kai never brings to us, that will not scare us. on these ruins, we are showing the whole world that we don't want to leave. [end of translation] >> if you look across the street here you see more

evidence of russian war crimes. there are civilian apartment buildings, houses, civilian areas, all that came under a vicious attacks when russian forces descended on this area in their efforts to ultimately take the city of kyiv, which as you know failed. there are these constant reminders of what happened here. when you look at this you should also remember what's still happening on the east. that is the thing we keep hearing from people as we are having conversations. they worry that the west is forgetting about what's happening here. as you said, fighting in the east, in the donbas region intensifies every day, ukrainian forces say they're losing up to 200 soldiers every day. >> ellison barber in ukraine. we thank you very much. from the threat to democracy abroad to the threat of democracy here at home. representative stacey plaskett serves as a impeachment manager during the second trial of donald trump. she is standing by with her

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about how the violence at the capitol unfolded on january 6th as donald trump tried to cling to power after losing his reelection bid. this week's first public hearing from the house select committee investigating the capitol riot was a series of bombshell revelations. here are a few things we learned according to the committee. president trump was well aware that he lost the 2020 election to joe biden. several of trump's aides, including attorney general bill barr testified that they told trump his claims were bogus but trump still intended to remain in office, a feat that would require backup. the house panel revealed that donald trump secretly met with a group of election deniers, including general michael flynn, sydney powell, rudy giuliani, and others just in over an hour between tweeting out his infamous invitation to the january 6th protests. >> we know that the group discussed a number of dramatic steps including having the

military seize voting machines and potentially re-run elections. you will also hear that president trump met with that group alone for a period of time. before white house lawyers and other staff discovered the group was there and rushed to intervene. a little more than an hour after miss powell, mr. giuliani, general flynn, and the others finally left the white house president trump sent the tweet on the screen now telling people to come to washington on january 6th. be there, he instructed them, we will be wild. >> indeed it was. it was wild how many sitting republican lawmakers found themselves significantly involved in the insurrection. the committee says scott perry and other republican members of congress asked for presidential pardons in the weeks after january 6th. those spokesman for perry will tell you quote, this is a

ludicrous as -- joining me now is democratic congressman stacey of the u.s. virgin islands who was a manager for the second impeachment of donald trump which was triggered by the insurrection. welcome representative. after living through january 6th and knowing the details of that day as a former impeachment manager, what was it like for you to experience that hearing on thursday? >> first, thank you so much for having me on and it is good to see michael. i think what was so amazing to me about the hearings was the depth of information that they were able to give. it really gave flesh to the skeleton and the bones of which, the second impeachment of donald trump. we were able to show and outline that not only was this a dereliction of duty but we allege that this was an attempted coup of our government.

an attempt by a fascist president to take control of our government. this committee has done the work, bravo to them, for showing that what we alleged was in fact true. those, that article of impeachment is being played out in realtime, and primetime for americans this week. >> i'm curious, what do you think, a key detail that was revealed, it certainly absolutely needs to be addressed. >> i think it is so important for so many who have doubted the intentions of the president to show what he intended. if you recall, during my presentation during the impeachment hearings, i showed how the president involved himself in the permitting and move the protest, remaining at the ellipses, to changing the

permit himself so that they were to walk to the capitol. knowing of course that this is january 6th and he should defecation of the election was going to take place. we now see from those within his own administration, his very circle of power that he knew that he did not win the election. he knew that he didn't have any claims and that he needed to take over the government to remain in power. he was intent on doing it. his engagement with the proud boys and all the other white supremacists, anti-american, anti-democratic groups was a means by which he could retain that power. as a means byon december 19th, 2020, president trump tweeted out, big protests in d.c. on january 6th, be there. it will be wild! knowing now what we know about that tweet and with that tweet instigated, what is the most

alarming thing, or for you, about the meeting that the president held an hour before sending out that very same tweet? >> what is alarming to me is that he knew that he needed to use americans as -- for his own malicious intent, for his own designed to take over the government. so many americans have been under this way of the president. i am so fearful, michael, that so many of them remain there. but is more insidious is that my colleagues, who remain in the house and in the senate, who know exactly who donald trump is. who know exactly what this movement is about but are so intent on power, like he is, that they are willing to give up their democracy. they're willing to use americans for their own design. we see that every day, whether it is in january six, their

unwillingness to come to the table to negotiate in good faith, their unwillingness to support sensible legislation, and their obsession with power. >> on the evening of the hearing you tweeted this. this is why we must continue to come out and vote. because trump coup attempt and january 6th was an attempt to erase the will of the people. do you think this hearing made a difference for trump supporters who believe in his message that day? what could be said in the upcoming hearings that could make a difference a difference for a lot of those folks out there who are seeing things differently? >> of course, there are some individuals who do not believe that an actual riot took place, that there was violence. the hearing the other day show that this was in fact not true. to hear the officer talk about

stepping in the blood of her colleagues and other police officers is a jarring. i think the other message that needs to be brought forward, for those individuals that believe that the election was still stolen, the lie. in clear terms, to negate that. to show that trump himself, all of the data, all of the individuals knew that this was not true. as in the will words of william barr, this is what he said about it. we also need to show the intent of the president to utilize the people who supported him and were loyal to him for his own personal design at the expense of our constitution. these are the three things that the committee needs to do. the other intention of the committee at the end is to give us a real recommendations so this can never take place again. >> democratic representative stacey, from the virgin islands, we appreciate you. thank you.

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you are looking at a live picture in parkland, florida, where dozens are gathered for a march for our lives rally. the movement is backed with the renewed anger over gun violence and the lack of action. it march for our lives started four years ago after the mass shooting at douglas high school in parkland, florida. it is a used a driven organization. the organization says, most of the staff's members of generation z, all people under 25. genesee has grown up in a world of active shooter drills at school and has come accustomed to feeling unsafe in their own classrooms. nbc's stephanie stanton is in parkland, florida, where the rally is getting underway. parkland is where this movement was born for the worst of reasons. what is the atmosphere like today? >> good morning to you, michael. the mood here can be described

as a combination of star somber and strength. thousands are gathered behind me in parkland for this march for our lives rally. this is not far from the douglas high school. this is where 17 students and staff were killed when the gunman stormed into the high school. let me set the school here -- the scene here for you. this is what we can expect here today from this tragedy that happened at the high school. protesters here are demanding that congress enacted universal background checks, red flag laws, which would allow guns to be confiscated in certain situations, as well as a raising the age limit from 21 -- to 21, rather, from 18, out first and log guns. parkland survivors, zoe weizmann, a organize the entire event. she was a 12-year-old middle school student who is outside on the field adjacent to the

high school when she heard the gunshots ring out. she says that she was devastated when she learned of the recent school shooting in uvalde. take a listen. >> i remember, i was at a rehearsal for a play when i heard about eovaldi. i stepped outside and cried. it brought back all of the emotions that i felt that day when i survived parkland. it hurts to know that there are so many kids, younger than myself, who will have to live through a life's worth of trauma that i deal with every day. this is what motivates me to keep doing this. i do not want one more kid to have to get shot, or to have to live the rest of their life with this haunting them. >> in 2018, florida lawmakers took action and change the legislation here in the state in response to the parkland shooting. at this point, protesters and lawmakers and lacey are saying if they could do it in florida,

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this weekend, but he wisely planned ahead with an all-new meeting of the velshi banned book club. this meeting centers around a painfully timely young adult novel called giveaway a gun and his author todd strasser. it is tragically relevant right now. here is ali. >> in the last meeting of the velshi banned book club we discussed 90 minutes by jody peco. i started the meeting with a content warning at the risk of sounding redundant, i want to reiterate the message before i begin the discussion of this week's book, give a boil gun by todd strasser. while the novels are vastly different they focus on events of a school shooting. last month, the nation was brought to its knees after a shooting in uvalde, texas. in many ways, we still are. the news of so many lives taken is utterly fresh. we are focusing on these books, because we believe that they can generate useful

conversation, help work through some very serious and complex feelings, and to whatever extent it is possible, aid in understanding. it might be understandably that you are not able to work through these feelings, of fears, and thoughts surrounding a topic as tragic as school shootings the. crucial point is that these of books are accessible when you are your child is interested in exploring the painful reality from the safety of this printed word. give a boil gun describes the events surrounding a fictitious school shooting at middletown high school. the story culminates on the night of a school dance where brandon and gary entered the school gym armed with homemade bombs and semi automatic guns. they torment and ravage some of the classmates and teaching staff. it is visceral. the novel is written by way of diary entries, emails, interviews with various characters and suicide notes from the two shooters. the result is eerie but it is deeply effective. the reader is on the outside but is privy to the inner

workings of the school, the town, and the two perpetrators. it provides numerous points of view, some are hostile, some more sympathetic. people buy a gun was published in the year 2000, i hear after the columbine high school massacre. it is the first work of fiction to grapple with a new reality that followed after columbine, a world in which schools can die -- students can die in their classrooms. there are similarities between the book and the columbine shooting, including the close and complex friendship between the shooters. give a boil gun was written for a young adult audience, unlike the more mature target democratic suffolk of pecos. book it is on many summer reading list and is part of english curriculums across the nation. it has faced many calls for ban, many times in the two decade since it went to print. a high school english teacher, sarah anderson, posted a blog in favor of keeping the book on her syllabus writing in part, a quote, it is one of the most successful and engaging units we teach.

todd strasser it's many big issues like bullying, violent video, games troubles at home, et cetera, and students have no choice to speak up and discuss what they are reading. almost every time they read the book in class i end up hearing from my most introverted students. it is a powerful moment when so many students in class are buzzing and engaged and asking to have a discussion. the argument of course is that not all children are ready to grapple with the realities of school shooting when the assignment comes about, especially if they have dealt with the horrors directly or indirectly by watching it on tv. it would be nice if i was able to say that the children are few and far between. it would be nice. it would be a lie. unequivocally though, like all books of the appropriate age group shouldn't be accessible to students in a library. every single child who has had a desire to explore a better understanding the complexities of this topic from the safety of to book cover should be able to do so. reading, thinking, and

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a boy a gun. todd, welcome to the velshi banned book club. >> thank you for having me. >> what's changed since you wrote this book? you literally wrote one of the first books to come after columbine which was earth shattering. it was an event that changed our entire world. now in 2022, this is all too familiar. what is different now then when you first conceptualize trying to write a story to young adults? >> i think there are two things that have changed. one is actually good, and one is not. the good thing is that we have made a tiny bit of progress. we are certainly losing the war when it comes to guns but we won a battle. when i first started bullying was a tremendous issue in schools but i still go to a lot of schools and speak, i motivate them, i motivate kids to be better readers, literacy. every school i go into these days you are going to find

posters about bullying. you are going to find classes and discussions about bullying. one place where we actually have made progress is the idea that bullying was behind school shootings. i don't think that is what is happening today. today, school shootings have become a higher level of evil. it is hard to explain but people who want to do something really bad seem to know that the worst thing you could possibly do is a school shooting. you will see that recent school shooters very often are not the students in the school, which is the way it used to be, but are outsiders. >> if you're writing this book today, the medically, what might change? the concept that there is still some notoriety behind school shootings, right? it is the worst thing that you can do, if you are somehow on the outside, weather related to boeing or otherwise, you do gained some notoriety. we in the media are trying to

change that by not making it in something -- what would you do differently? >> i would have to write a completely different book, in a sense that it would have to be about characters who did not attend the school, who formed this idea in their mind, and let's understand these are insane people. how you get this idea and how it comes to you, why you go through with it. it is just unbelievable that this happens in schools in this country. >> let's talk a little bit about the pushback that the book got. i almost think it was more understandable in 2020. i'm sorry, when you first wrote this in 2000, because it was new subject matter, it was novel, it was unusual. some people want to think of columbine as something that will never happen again, must never happen again, should never happen again. and then we had so many others. and then we had sandy hook, we said oh they killed little

children, this must never happen again. and then we had parkland and we thought this will change. nothing changes. and yet, people still don't want their kids to read this material. >> well, it actually started before columbine. in kentucky, mississippi, arkansas, there were three shootings in a period of about six months in the 1997 and 1998. my kids were in middle school at the time and that's why i immediately got interested in this. this had been going on beforehand but columbine was the event that really pulled the median. columbine was the event where we first began to understand that polling played a role. now, we have a tremendous urged to protect our kids, we all do and this has been going on forever. there are two ways you can do it, you can educate and teach kids about dangerous so that

they can protect themselves or you can pretend to hide, stick your head in the sand. in 2020, i mean 2000 people were more inclined to secure heads in the sand but now you can't. children literally know about school shootings before they know how to read. >> every few pages in your book you have these footnotes and statistics, including a number of the gun deaths in america, the descriptions of eric harris from columbine, the perpetrators. quotes from congressional representatives, tell me this about and why you chose to do it? >> i'd done a tremendous amount of research and there was so much that i wanted to convey but you can't have characters in a story just stating facts and factories constantly. it doesn't work. you need characters to be

authentic and say what these characters really should say. i had all this information that i was dying to get out so i decided to add the factoids on the bottom's of the pages as a way of doing it without interrupting the narrative. >> let me ask you about what you think. when i introduced you i read a quote from a teacher that said in my most introverted students, they respond to this. after matching that that is a little bit of a goal, it's for those people who might be slightly on the outside or on the fringes in which they might recognize themselves or see some reason to participate in the discussion. tell me about your thinking on that front. >> well, of course you want to try to reach the kids who are alienated because this is a story about alienated kids but i'll tell you something fascinating that i never expected. i have gotten emails and letters, not huge numbers of them, but from the police. kids who wrote to me and said

i'm a bully, i've pushed kids around, i never thought about how this affects the kids i bully, i never thought about how it affects them emotionally, how badly it hurts them. >> what's an amazing thing to have had that influence for your writing. todd stressor, thank you. we appreciate your time with us. todd is the author of numerous novels including give a boy a gun, today's future for the velshi banned book club. >> that was the latest meeting of the abel sheet banned book club with give a boy a gun author todd stressor, and of course velshi. keep an eye on twitter for announcements and information on the upcoming velshi banned book club meetings. that's all for me folks, thank you for watching as i fill the seat for my friend velshi. the cross connection with tiffany cross begins right now.

good morning, everybody. welcome to the cross connection. i am tiffany cross. obviously, we have a lot to get to this morning. let's get to. it on thursday night, and the first public hearing of the january six committee, we learned that the insurrection was not an impromptu tantrum but an organized coup attempt, all prompted by donald trump. the committee released never before seen footage of the attack on the capitol. just a warning, it might be too disturbing to watch. [inaudible] [noise] [inaudible] >> the house members are going

through the tunnels. >> the house panel also heard compelling testimony from a capitol hill police officer who was injured during the insurrection. take a listen. >> i can just remember my breath catching in my throat because what i saw was a war scene. it is nothing i had seen out of the movies. >> for the first time, the committee gave a timeline for the events that unfolded on january 6th and pointed out what many of us knew. trump did nothing to stop the insurrection. it was revealed that vice president mike pence was making all of the decisions that trump was supposed to make to protect the capital. scott perry sought out a presidential pardon for his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election results. perry says that this is a lie. get this, ivanka trump went against a daddy and said that