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simone, i'm sitting down today because you all need to be sitting down. revelations from the january 6th, committee and it is not just about the violence we saw, or donald trump's disturbing insurrection y'all. never forget because the assault on democracy is real and it is still out there. we are also going to get into the march for our lives across the country that took place today. and, it is taking on a new urgency with increasing carnage from gun violence, and pressure on congress to act. we are hearing from two young activists, they are in the fight for the long haul y'all. plus, why we can't seem to hit the brakes on gas prices in spite of white house efforts. today the average reached $5 a gallon. i am symone sanders, and i have something to say.
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today we are talking january 6th, and maybe you are wondering why symone, maybe you are saying symone the capitol attack last today, sure it was, bad but everywhere they went home, right? that is just it, y'all. because we see through that sparked the insurrection are very much alive, the people from the capitol day they went home our democracy is still in danger. that is why, at least 20 million people tuned into the january 6th committee's first primetime hearing this past thursday, where they heard the testimony of capitol police officer caroline edwards, and documentary filmmaker nick quest among others. now the first people to breach the line of officers outside the capitol, they pushed edwards onto the concrete steps, knocking her unconscious. when she woke up, edwards went right back to the funding the united states capitol, only to
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be attacked again with chemical agents. yes, chemical agents. here is what she told committee members about that day. >> never in my wildest dreams did i think that as a police officer, as a law enforcement officer i wouldn't find myself in the middle of a battle. you know, i am trained to detain a couple of subjects, and handle a crowd, but i'm not combat trained. and, that day, it was just hours of hand to hand combat. >> we are going to dive much deeper into these hearings, but first, i want you to know that officer edwards was not the only one afraid for her life that day. during the riots, democratic congresswoman susan wild hit with her colleagues in the rows of the house gallery as self patriots -- let's be, clear they were not patriots. assaulted the heart of american
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democracy. they were unharmed thankfully, and now representative wild is here to talk with us today. congresswoman, thanks so much for being here. what was it like watching the hearings are somebody who experience the chaos firsthand? >> good afternoon, symone, thank you for having me. i was there in the hearing room thursday night as the hearing took place. it was very powerful, i will tell you that it also to some extent, and i'm speaking partially for the other people who were trapped in the gallery with me, because we have talked about since thursday night. it is starting to bring a sense of closure to us but it certainly did for me, it felt like a big open wound for a long time. but i will also tell you that some of the videos we saw, and we have never seen them before just like the american public has never seen them before, we quite triggering. one in particular is seen looking down into the house
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floor at the back of the gallery with three men standing there with guns facing outwards. it is a scene i remember vividly, and i think it immediately proceeded the scene that you just showed i've me on the floor of the gallery. >> this is harrowing. you say that the hearings bring a sense of closure. could you just tell the american people a little bit more about that. because congresswoman, there are so many people out there that say this is something that happened well over a year and a half, ago why are we still talking about it right now. i think your insights here are key. >> thank you so much for that question. i think it is incredibly important. this is not a political issue. this is about the foundation of our democracy, the foundation of our country, we -- what we started to see thursday night, what is starting to come together and i am quite certain will continue to over the course of these hearings is
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that this was an attempt at a coup. we have seen crews in other country, i am on the foreign affairs committee, we study goose that are occurring in totalitarian countries. the idea that that was -- a force here is really frightening. i hope that people will look at these hearings, and we'll watch them objectively and understand that the democracy that this country has had, you constitution that we are based on is far too important for us to throw away and call it political moment, or just something that happened a year and a half ago. >> i -- absolutely agree with you. we talk about the ongoing threat to our democracy and i would be remiss if i did and ask you about the fact that -- is the republican nominee for governor, in the state of pennsylvania, and he was on the scene at the capitol riot that day. though he does say he didn't
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answer the capital, or go past the barricades, he has repeatedly echoed the big lie. that is that this election was stolen, and that president biden and vice president -- of this country. what are the consequences, congresswoman, of elevating election deniers to government positions? >> it is absolutely terrifying. we heard the other night, and i suspect that the committee has proof of this, or they would not have stated in their opening statements. some of my colleagues across the aisle saw pardons from president trump. and, as i said, i think we are going to see the evidence to support that. i don't think liz cheney would have said that. having said, that i already am serving with people who are election deniers. i see firsthand the extreme level of their denial. but the idea that we would elevate somebody in the state, pennsylvania, to be governor of a state, somebody who denies
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that the 2020 election was legitimate, somebody who was present on january six 2021, somebody who has bought into a hook line -- and has perpetuated the lies that have been told. that is absolutely frightening. we cannot -- really strong candidate have certainly hope to superior texas off. >> congressman, thank you for being here this afternoon. the january six committee definitely need to capture the public's attention with this primetime hearing. now millions of, people they did tonight, but did the committee get their point across? that is -- political panel, we have democratic strategist former executive director of the new york state democratic party, kyle cheney is with us, the senior legal affairs reporter at politico and rick wilson republican strategist and cofounder of the lincoln project is also here. welcome all.
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let's get into all of the shortly, because this power packed panel who can unpack this. but, that's, you first because you heard -- and i do think the fact that it strikes me that the committee must effectively demonstrate to the american people that the assault in our democracy really didn't and on january 6th, because again, as i said, the people at the capitol went and -- do you agree? >> i absolutely, agree and that is one of the reasons i don't call it the big lie. i call it the big criminal conspiracy. you and i have been on campaigns, we understand the infrastructure that needed to move people to put talking points into folks mouths, and you can have members of congress of trump enablers, candidates for office that are talking, and using the same
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talking points that are -- the same ideas suggest to me there are much larger concerns involved that is moving financial resources and other types of resources to make sure that the infrastructure needed to continue this conspiracy does continue to exist, and it puts people in positions of power. the concern that the congresswoman has, that i have, that we all should have is that we can no longer remain apathetic for those who have been, for those who are casual observers, -- this is a much larger apparatus that has existed for years, and -- will continue to. i always key in or have been keying in on the words of officer edward. she said she was not ready for combat, that is an important point for me because the folks on the other side who are
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attacking were. they prepared themselves for this, this was not something that was just -- we have to come out with the same attention and engagement, financially and otherwise to be able to push back. >> i want to stay on this point, because i want to ask about the public, and rick, i saw you nodding your head, we have seen so many different obstacles if you will right now when it comes to the political landscape. inflation, never ending inflation, i just talked about gas prices being, high baby formula fiasco, now a tampon shortage. it doesn't apply to y'all, but it definitely applies to me. all of these things have -- since the insurrection, but a lot of americans, frankly understandably don't see this investigation as top of mind. there is a lot of talk, oftentimes, we will get to talk -- in a second about public opinion and what folks think, but -- you know, rick, how should the
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committee be considering public opinion? because oftentimes, public opinion doesn't necessarily lineup with one's duty. i think there is a duty here that demands that every member of congress, even republicans, perform oversight to really find out not just how january 6th happened, but how to prevent it from happening again in the future? am i wrong? >> symone, the committee as they profoundly important, mission and that is to fully describe to the american people the conspiracy as -- correctly pointed out was a conspiracy from top to bottom to describe that conspiracy, to illustrate how it came together, to illustrate why trump supported, proposed, it benefited from it, and to show that the violence was inevitable outgrowth of the plan they put in place. this is a vital moment for america because we can argue about gas races, and baby formula shortage is all we want,
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but if we are not a represented no moxie anymore, if the public falls to authoritarian violence, we are not going to be worrying about any of those things. we will have a much different country than we dreamed about having. so it is vitally important that the committee press forward, and, look i think public opinion will move on this. it has not been top of mind for months and months, but you have 20 million people tuning into this event. that is just on cable and broadcast. many more people online digitally. this is something the american people are going to find fascinating, i think, and it is wide of the committee continue this process no matter what the viewership looks like, they have to get to the truth. >> all right, we will take a break right, now kyle, we will compute out of the break because we have to talk about the 25th amendment conversation that was had. also, later, after my political panel, we have oscar nominated actress -- joining me live. all right? but first, before we go, my colleague melissa ray burger with today's other top news stories. melissa, what you got?
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>> well, hi, thanks simone, we are following a few stories as a matter of fact. today president biden is in new mexico as historic wildfires burn in that state. the president is facing tough questions from residents there after the federal government sanctioned the fires that are now out of control. the hermits peak fires, it is, called is currently the largest in the state. official state nearly 4000 wildfire personnel are on the ground fighting the fire which is now what we are called, 66% contained. ukrainian officials are pleading for more ammunition supplies from the west, as forces their struggle to hold off the russian military in the eastern region. finding has been ongoing for more than 100 days. and, more than 55 million americans are still under heat advisories across the southwest, residents from california to louisiana are bracing for temperatures 10 to 25 degrees
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kyle basil and -- are back with us. let's talk the 25th amendment. it allows the vice president to take over as president if a majority of cabinet agrees. in her first public interview
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about her resignation, and talking about betsy devos you all, she told usa today that following the attack on the capitol, she did have conversations with fellow cabinet members about the 25th amendment and how it can be applied. she claims she decided to step down the day then vice president mike pence made it quote clear that he was not going in that direction. take us through the likelihood of how something like this would happen. >> i think the main thing is, you heard a lot of democrats talk about we have to invoke the 25th amendment to get donald trump out of the office of three stirred up the mob. but how seriously the members of donald trump says trump scandal actually took it. it wasn't just betsy devos -- sean hannity relaying to white house staff hey, by the way, this is a real thing.
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people are actually talking about the 25th amendment here. it's unprecedented that you would've cabinet members even having these serious discussions so i think that is the most important thing. i don't think it's a roadmap of how you implement something like that, but even having these folks even coming up with the plan is really remarkable, how they view the sitting president at the time. >> it is absolutely shocking. i worked at the white house. this is no small thing for cabinet members to get together and do. that that's torture new reporting from the washington post. it's about ginni thomas. she is the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. the in an email, she pressed 29 republican lawmakers in arizona to set aside president biden's popular vote victory, and choose president trump. rick, how can republican platforms like fox news and
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people such as -- we continue to deny what is the very clear evidence of the still very active threat to undermine the law of american democracy? why not we why haven't we heard more but johnny thomas's role? here >> first of, all it's a feature -- they don't want to talk about the threat to democracy because they are the threat to democracy. they are a threat to the republic. they made a compromise with donald trump, and it's crazy base, they understand that they will be destroyed politically if they defy it. they are not gonna say a damn thing. they're gonna sit quietly with their hands floated like they're in the back row of church. as for ginni thomas, i have to say, oh my democratic friends will respond to this as well, there is a culture in washington, everybody goes to the same restaurant, everybody is nice to each other, protecting their normal people. i'm sorry. she was involved in the coup.
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now she was in a central planner and slaughter of the coup, but because of the central position she planted herself in the current servant of movement, and as a spouse of the supreme court justice, she is an enormous influence. democrats and republicans to make it clear that this is something it is disturbing. it is not part of the normative behavior. >> it is disturbing and it should be investigated. -- very quickly the next three hearings are set for monday, wednesday, and thursday. basil, what you want to see from these hearings? >> the one thing that i have seen already and i hope i will continue to see is an incredible narrative that is being told about what occurred. well i want to see, and what a lot of voters want to see, at the end of all of this, is where we go with respect to accountability. there have been many folks who have already been arrested or detained or questioned, but i think going back to this point
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about apathy, there's a sense that we are going to see good story, a good tv show, but nothing is gonna happen at the end of the day. i think that is where we need to pivot to at some point. i know that i'll get more information and really get a sense of what occurred and be shocked and appalled by it. but i really want to get to a point of accountability. >> somebody's dog also wants accountability into know what's happening. all right basil, kyle, rick, thank you all very very much. ahead, gas prices are breaking a 20-year high. which you need to know about what is going on. gun safety advocates are all over the country are pressing congress to do something. i'm gonna talk to two young leaders at the center of the movement, david hogg and yolanda rené king. next. king. next
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much every major city are marching in the streets. they are demanding an end to the epidemic of gun violence in this country in the march for our lives. that is one of the biggest rallies that is happening. it happened in the nation's capital were speakers demanded action. >> with this time is different. hold up your signs and say. it this time is different. with >> another major rally took place in parkland, florida, where the march for our lives actually began after a deadly shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school in 2018. just before the march got underway, president biden tweeted, he said congress needs to ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines, strengthen background checks, an ex safe storage laws and red flag laws, repeal gun manufacturer's immunity from liability. nbc's savannah -- is with us. she's live from washington d.c.. savannah, what were the
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speakers calling for today? >> hey simone, good to be with you. this is just right rob. but the speakers were calling for, pretty much what you just tweeted. we, for the president tweeted rather. -- david hogg leading everyone and saying, this time is different. that's what i speak to so many people in the crowd. about do you think this time is different? there was so much sentiment all these young people coming out again, even though we did this all four years ago at the first march for our lives and 28 teams. a hopefully this time it will be different. x gonzalez we her speech was directly targeted towards congress. we say children are the future but then we don't listen to them when they're old enough when they're old enough to say something. we in the last four years, i got my college degree.
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whatever you've been doing since? then said one of speaker. signs that said things like your kid could be next, with a mounted wet paint all over his shirt. a 12-year-old had a sign that, said am i next? he directly asking that question. even with the target he was looking through as he held it up. something that stood for me, i someone who is back in 2000, 18 of that time it looked like there was a lot of activists there. but this time i met students from three school shootings. >> nbc's savannah sellers. thank you so, so much. before the march for our lives this weekend, i actually had the privilege to sit down with two of the young people who were up on that washington d.c. stage today, i frankly think they are making a difference in the world. we are here from young people and that is what we did on the show today. yolanda renee king,
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granddaughter of martin luther king, she was here in studio, and so was david hogg -- just 14 and 22-year-olds respectively. i think they should inspire all of. us they deathly inspired me to stand up and say, we don't want any more of our children or our friends or loved ones to die because of gun violence. here's what they had to say. >> i'm so excited you both are here today. thank you thank you thank you. let's get right into. it you both actually have been very powerful written powerful op-eds recently. yolanda, you did one in the washington post. david you did one on june 10th on fox news. i thought you made a very clear argument. i want to read an excerpt from both of. you yolanda, you're right, thoughts and prayers are only helpful after you take action. day in and day, out people invoke my grandfather when it's convenient. we can look to his words for inspiration and guidance, but my generation must be willing to stand up. your grandfather's martin
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luther king junior. it seems to me that in that moment yolanda, you were issuing a call to action for your peers. were you? not >> i. was especially the main -- i think it's always important to get more people and action. we need action from all generations. so not just kids my age. young, and old, and people in between, i think everyone needs to take action. anyone can take action really. i was really speaking to everyone but i really want to, it was coming from the perspective of my generation if that makes sense. >> it makes perfect sense. i think every major movement in this country has been led by young people. changes not happening in america without our purchase the patient. >> david you're, quote if we agree agreed to kill children is unacceptable, then we need to either prevent people intent
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on killing them from getting their hands on their guns or stop their intent to kill in the first place. this seems like a call to action to america, but specifically elected officials who've been unwilling to do something. >> it. is even more than that, it's a call to action to americans, the reason why i said it -- the senate is even considering acting is because they had a change of heart, it's because we're close to election, and americans across the country, teachers, all people, young people have been out demanding action like never before, including some republicans. which is why decided to publish in fox, which was not a decision that was made lightly. but the reality is we have to figure out what we can to take action. the movement needs ten votes in the senate, and that's not gonna come from democrats. >> i see you agreeing. >> it's time for action. and it was time for action four
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years ago. so now it's really time for action. there is no time for playing around. we have to really talk to our politicians and make sure that action is taken. we are serious. we are committed. we are dedicated. >> young people right, we are all talking about something needs to get done. congress has to do something. at this point, i'm willing to take anything. -- incremental change does lead us to something big. but you do you think young people understand that and you think that will be something acceptable to them? >> i think a lot of young people understand, that but a lot don't. we've seen that all these movements are led by eu. just because certain pieces of legislation that have to pass doesn't mean that we're finished. a big part of activism is that you have to celebrate the small victories. so while, we have these pieces of legislation passed, we are not finished yet. we are going to keep on
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fighting until we get to our ultimate goal. so i think that, it's not one of those things where you, like well we pasta, so now we don't have to worry about this anymore. you have to stay with the, because it's a marathon. you have to divide the marathon up. you may have conquered one part of the marathon, but that doesn't mean you have to conquer the whole marathon. that's what you have to do with activism. and with this issue. i think, a lot of people may not be, a lot of people will be happy something as passed, but i don't think they're going to just totally drop the issue and i don't think uses going to drop the issue. >> divide the marathon david. maybe that's how we need to start talking about. at some of my progressive friends are out there, saying it's all or nothing. i really think they're casting unnecessary shadow on what the united states congress is gonna be able to do here. it's not gonna be --
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but it will be something. will that be good enough for the young people of america? >> i think even stopping one more parkland is something we can all agree on is a good thing, even if it doesn't stop every shooting. we have more guns and people in this country. it's gonna take a long time for us to really start to see some substantial results, even if we implemented massive gun loss today. however, i would encourage us to think back to the times like the civil rights movement and remember, it didn't just take place in the 60s. the groundwork was led by people -- who did the writing on the research in the work for years before that, and the veterans who came back from world war ii and said we just fought for intolerance and here we come back home and we face that. we need to have that freedom to vote and right to vote. and how long that is -- movements are people. movements take time. movements are marathons. almost like ultramarathons to be honest. sometimes we don't even know
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where the ending is. but i think what we need to do is figure out, let's get where we can in congress, and let's bring this to the states. that's the next steps. we have to bring it to the states, because with occurrence supreme court that we, have -- with the decision coming out with the usurping of roe v. wade. >> -- >> we have to use these states to see what laws can we get through. what can we get into the constitution. we need to also address that the communities like parkland don't have shootings on a daily basis is because we have the strongest law -- is because we have the best resources of any place in the country. -- we don't see getting on the news. we hear people talk about mental health. we don't realize that
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radicalization and white supremacy or not mental illnesses, be it on an individual or societal level. -- or individual hatred, self described fascist in buffalo. we have to address, the same way we do with cigarettes, have somebody gets a gun, the way we address how somebody gets cigarettes, but why does somebody want to pick up a gun in the first? place >> yolanda rené king, david, hawk to modern freedom fighters. thank you both so much for your time. the kids are gonna be all right you all. after the break, pain at the pump. gas prices continue to. rice a quick programming note, on monday, join msnbc for day two of the january 6th hearings. special coverage kicks off with morning joe at 9 am eastern.
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gas prices. can you tell us why? what's going on? where did it come from this latest spike? why has the average gas price gone up? >> well some symone, good to be with you. we're looking at several factors coming together to make the prices go up. first as russia's war in ukraine. that's one. that's something president biden has referred to repeatedly. the u.s. has hit russia with a number of sanctions, that's also driven the price. up all the other's demand. demanded skyrocketed here in the u.s.. we talk about how gas is $2 more than it was that this time last. year but for the past two years, americans have not done as much driving. we're talking about strong covid lockdowns, people at work, people not traveling. but now the demand has gone up with more people out on the roads, and that is driven inflation. this doesn't bode well for the future, the timing involved in this. this is happening right in the
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beginning of the summer travel season. because people reluctant for the past two years, those that can afford to, even though the prices have gone, that people are still buying gas, people are still going on those trips. that's driving the demand up and keeping the prices high. >> people want to go on vacation. so we've got a little international foreign policy issues happening, russia, but also i guess, when i hear you saying blain is that there are companies also a key part of how this is impacting folks. viola gas companies. >> yes. certainly. that's something that president boyden pointed to as well, something democrats are talking about. when you talk about gas prices, yields up to talk about inflation as a whole. that's something that really is hitting the pockets of so many american families. gas prices is really the most visible manifestation of it. but we're talking about prices going up on food, groceries, housing prices, cars, new and used, all of these costs are
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going up. in fact one, very striking number that came in mind is that the average american family are paying $460 more per month for goods and services compared to this time last year. that is a tremendous difference. we are talking about people changing how they're having to go about their daily lives. we talked to some people, who said he's been considering moving closer to work because we can't afford gas prices. other people are charging more on their credit cards, taking into savings, so it's impacting the way people go about their lives symone. >> nbc's blayne alexander thank you for breaking it down and making it make sense. coming up as pride celebrations kickoff across the country, i'm gonna speak with a special guest who recently opened up about her personal journey. i'm talking about oscar nominated ingenue. stay with us. e. stay with us a1c wasn't at goal,
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on pride month. and concerns about the growing number of anti-lgbtq bills that have been filed nationwide this year. nbc's maya egeland has the latest on those bills. take a listen. >> waves of anti lgbtq -- which bans gender affirming medical care for minors. activists say these bills are putting queer folks in danger. >> that even families who have been up unable to receive the care that they rely upon because of the introduction of these bills. >> and when you heard about discussions about proposal edges sleigh shun or bills around the country, how does that make you feel? >> it makes me feel scared. without access to gender affirming care, without access to health care providers who understood my need, and to try to even when they didn't, i wouldn't be here today.
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>> according to the human rights campaign, there've been over 300 anti lgbtq+ bills introduced this year alone, putting 2022 on track to surpass last year as the worst year in recent history for lgbtq legislative attacks. -- executive director of the national black justice coalition. -- racial equity and lgbtq equality. >> -- introduced her codify sister slip legislation, legislation targeting lgbtq plus -- this >> this week an onslaught of dangerous anti lgbtq legislation -- these unconscionable attacks have left countless lgbtq i plus families and fear and pain. but this is nothing new for people of trans people of color.
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>> there is expectation of all trans people to all be activists. the truth is, my activism is waking up every day, as i am. and surviving. >> she's the director and founder of a small independent online publication, that actively works against pervasive anti black, brown and queer -- >> identify as a changemaker an artist first. >> she is turn to our to inspire change. >> through representations and media, we are much a more able to change the conversation that push forward these anti-, black anti-trans, anti-queer narratives that ultimately lead to violence. >> -- to demonstrate the beautiful diversity that is always existed, and are significant. or at a minimum, to question some of the bases or the stigma that they might have inherited. >> how are you able to bring in
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art and representation into your work? >> when we show up in narratives, primarily of rejection, of violence, of sexual harm, economic instability, homelessness, that representation becomes the only lens through which we understand the black trans experience. i focus on capturing narratives of joy and thriving in celebration and love and acceptance and resilience. >> thanks so much to nbc's maya england for that report. all right, ingenue ellis has been looking at the stage and screen for literally decades now. just this year she was nominated for an oscar for her role in king richard, playing the mother of the williams sisters. ingenue is also sharing new details of her personal life. please welcome to the table, actress, producer, an activist ingenue ellis. how are you my friend? >> i'm.
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fine how are you? >> i'm fabulous. on fabulous. you are not very new to. this you are very true to this. you have been acting for a while now. you've had so many successful roles. 2022 just seems like it has been nothing short of amazing. >> yes. you know why? because i'm sitting here talking to you. how about that? i mean that. i mean that. i have been watching you and just saying amen to you for a long time, so yes, absolutely. it's surreal for me. >> i appreciate that. i remember back in, i mean i want to talk about your variety article, but before, that you have been when i say you are not news of this, your true to this, you have been using your platform to talk about activism and raising awareness to issues for such a very long time. i remember and we have some photos i believe of the dresses that you've worn on various carpets. at first got connected to you
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when you're from mississippi, and you talked about taking the mississippi flag down, and we have the photo up, president obama take the flag down, talking about the battle flag in this recipe. you talk to folks a little bit about the importance of using your platform, especially in this moment, when so many people are under attack. >> i'm not, red carpet is not my forte. you know what i'm saying? it's not, you know, it's not my thing. but you know you have to do it to do your job. and so i felt like i want to do my job, i want to do it in something that i do well, hopefully, and speak the truth about mississippi and the way it needs to be spoken about. in particularly needed to be spoken about that and continues to need to be connected,
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canadians need continues. it's a crucial for people to understand that that flag is not as simple. it is a tactile, tulip segregation. when queer people, black, people see that, flag they know that they can go in the other direction. the flag is come down from the state flak, but the confederate flag is still all over the state of mississippi and all over this country. >> all over this country. they told me we're out of time ingenue. but i just want to note that you had an article invariety recently really talked about growing up in mississippi as a bisexual woman, and what they called a god fearing family in the bible belt. this one quote on the screen, you say the solitude of that is so lonely, is violent, you literally have to tuck and play so many parts of you to be acceptable so people won't run from you. i want to thank you. -- there are so many people who can relate to. that you made her life a little bit shine a little bit brighter
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stacey abrams is joining me live. we will be talking about the georgia's governor's race and so much more. later tonight at 7 pm eastern, i'll be back for msnbc's special coverage with my good friend a moon -- and my good friend with rev. al sharpton who is coming up next. >> thank you symone and good evening and welcome to politicsnation. i'm coming to you live from my home. i just tested positive for covid. but so much was happening, i want to be with us all to talk about it tonight in no uncertain way. so let's start with the show. tonight's lead, truths without reconciliation. this week, the house select committee investigating

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