live. we will be talking about the georgia's governor's race and so much more. later tonight at 7 pm eastern, i'll be back for msnbc's special coverage with my good friend a moon -- and my good friend with rev. al sharpton who is coming up next. >> thank you symone and good evening and welcome to politicsnation. i'm coming to you live from my home. i just tested positive for covid. but so much was happening, i want to be with us all to talk about it tonight in no uncertain way. so let's start with the show. tonight's lead, truths without reconciliation. this week, the house select committee investigating the

january six insurrection took direct aim at former president donald trump for his role in inciting the events of the day. the prime time televised hearing paid into a picture of a president who at best was unmoved by the chaos he helped create. at worst, was intent on capitalizing on the arrest we, unrest, to overturn the 2020 election. [inaudible] multiple members of congress requested pardons from trump after the sixth. i was one of the first to call after that day a coup. the house select committee has only confirmed my suspicions.

unfortunately, many of the americans who most need to hear the truth about what happened in the tumultuous final days of the trump presidency, remain in the dark. many of the largest conservative media outlets have chosen to play down or completely ignore the select committee's important work. joining me now, congresswoman robbyn kelly, democrat of illinois, who sits on the house oversight and reform committee. congresswoman, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having. me hope you feel better. >> i have no symptoms. i feel great. i just wanted to make sure i follow all precautions and don't put anyone else in danger of infection. thank you for your wishes. after this tough week for the nation, leading us off tonight, i read your account of being in the house gallery, on january

6th of last year, you're fear there that you might be killed by the insurrectionists who stormed the capitol. watching this week's public hearing, with the news that proud boys, an extremist group had been indicted for seditious conspiracy just days before, what went through your mind congresswoman from your fear that you might die that day till watching this hearing and knowing that just a few days before these indictments that come down? >> first of all, thanks for having me on the show. i think my colleagues did a fantastic job. they've had over 1000 interviews, 140,000 documents that they've reviewed. i think i am okay. but then when i see the film in the video they had, it does bring it back again.

what we went through that day. really, it's still on our minds. there's a group of, us we color selves the gallery group, or the balcony group, that touch base with each other almost every single day about this, just to make sure people are okay. the american people deserve the truth. i think that they are bound to hear it. yes people we are not going to effect, with 20 million people watch the other, night which is fantastic. >> at the core of these hearings, is president trump, who, to my ear was exactly what i knew him to be after tonight's after that night's presentation. i was struck by the theme that we -- does not seem to move in to respond. as lawmakers lives were in danger. what are your thoughts about that? >> well, i'm very disappointed

in my colleagues for still covering up, just saying it was a regular touristy day. very disappointing. it makes me angry to be honest about it. it makes me not want to work with them. i have no respect for the former president and what he was a part of in my mind, putting us through. we could've lost our lives that day or gotten hurt. a people did lose their lives. police officer didn't shoot oh did shoot a woman, that's one reason they paused and could get us out of the gallery. this was because of that. >> congresswoman, right now you have [inaudible] in large part as a response for the mass shootings in uvalde and buffalo last month. a lot of young people are out there. i couldn't go out without we --

[inaudible] we are awaiting a senate vote. at the end of the day we need to change laws. we are waiting on a senate vote on a gun control package that the house passed last week, including your own bill to curb gun trafficking. current wisdom suggests that the package won't pass the senate, at the same time you have a small bipartisan group in the senate working on a much stronger package. that's something may have the books to past. without touching items like assault weapons, will this time be different congresswoman? >> you know, it's, interesting more people are saying they feel that it is different and i credit the public for that feeling. they are hearing from so many people that we need to make changes. they are hearing from democrats, republicans, independents, they're hearing from, there was

a group of republican donors that set something to the senators that change needs to happen. this is happening all over. you are not safe in schools, in the hospital, even at a cemetery. every day, going to the park, walking to the store, it's affecting more and more people. i think that it finally, you would think after -- it's finally affecting people more and more. i have hope, and your senator murphy is working so hard along with senator -- they're working so hard, so hopefully we will be able to get something through. i have a little more hope this time, but hopefully it is not going to be dashed. we >> all right. thank you congresswoman robyn tillie of illinois. joining me now is mayor -- of louisville kentucky. he's the former president of the --

nice to see you again mister mayor. >> reverend al, it's a pleasure. >> in the wake of another series of mass shootings in the nation, hundreds and thousands of one gathered in washington d.c. and many sister marches and people of people around the country. you spoke to the local march in louisville, and you've encouraged your citizens to attend the event downtown today. why was the issue of gun violence so important for you to address as a merv your city? >> it's gun violence is tearing our country apart. the mass shootings get most of the publicity, but the fact is, 100 people are killed every day in cities and rural areas every day, and 200 are shot. we are all sworn to serve and protect lives, and that includes the republican senate. here's the irony of this.

today, millions of people around the country are saying, we need common sense gun reform. but there is one person that could make it all happen, and he's a senior senator from kentucky, the leader of the senator minority mitch mcconnell, so we marched from city hall over to the federal building, and just asked him to use his awesome power that he has to change gun laws. just common sense gun laws that 80% of the people support and the nra member support as well. so it's just baffling why is this is taking place. that that somebody can buy an assault rifle at age 18, when they're not even old enough to buy a beer, or they can buy of the can't buy a handgun and 18, it makes no. since we are demanding action. we need more than president thoughts. we need more than president thoughts. we need action. we need action. people are there from 14-month-old to 87 year old reverend charles elliott, who

whispered in my ear, -- i was marching with dr. martin luther king, he said, and restore marching. >> mitch mcconnell is one of your two senators right there in kentucky, you cannot buy alcoholic beverages or beer at 18, but can buy an assault weapon and this does not touch the senator there who has family there? i mean, this is almost unthinkable. this week the u.s. conference of mayors held their annual meeting in reno, nevada, upon fill filing in the conference room, more than 170 of america 's we [inaudible] call the mass shooting protocol guy. [inaudible] you express your frustration with lawmakers on the issue of gun violence, telling the new

york times that mayors are [inaudible] as a member of a blue city in a red state, can you elaborate more on that sentiment and also explain what's mares around the country can do at the local level to compensate for state politics and refused to take any action on gun violence at all. we >> were always gonna keep pushing. when your blue city mayor, you go to a red state legislatures and they laugh at us when we asked for help with gun reform. it's a sad day. here's the reality rev. our streets are being flooded with guns. are people, people think anyone should be able to have guns. this is a political issue. a try to be b.a.r.t. partisan. we have the republican legislators and the u.s. senate blaming cities for all this gun violence. to me, there are the arsonist pretending to be firefighters.

they flood our streets with guns and yet want to complain about it. listen, the rural areas, gun violence was a 25% year over year as well. this is not just a city issue. you have to ask yourself, on the second amendment, which of course i support, but the framers of the constitution, if they saw our children being massacred, if they saw 100 deaths in our country every day from guns, they would be aghast and they would say this has gone terribly wrong. we need to get this fixed. >> i want to move to another point affecting your city. two neighbors of breonna taylor testified against the officers who shot into the apartment. -- fatigue has biased public in favor of police --

it's been over two years since the police unjustly shot and killed breonna taylor, and the lawsuit holding the police accountable still remains. what changes have been made in the wake of breonna taylor's death? are they affective? just about three weeks ago, i saw that happen to be sitting next to breonna taylor's mother when president biden signed an executive order that included [inaudible] >> thank you for bringing that up. i was pleased to see you there and breonna's mom and president biden's executive order signing. but the only way you could hide the pain when, a tragedy like that takes place, is that significant reform. that's what you've seen us here in louisville, and that's why he invited me to the white house for that signing. whether it's a civilian review board, no knock warrants, --

these are all many of the dozens of reform activities that we have taken place. i think the reality is that police [inaudible] is that a very tenuous point in our country right now. what we are aiming to do in louisville is redefining what that relationship is all about. it starts with trust. the biggest asset of a police department should have is the community. but there must be seen as legitimate. they must be seen as accountable. and constantly improving. we've been on the track now for two years. i want to give a big shout out to breonna's mom, she has been a class act. working with us. we report to her they count ability measures that are being taking place. >> a lot of that. who, well i have, you a lot of that and other mayors have to deal with is the public outcry.

a lot of people criticize people like [inaudible] if these issues were not race, like today the tens of thousands that have marched around gun control, is does not set the climate for people like you to even try to get change. martin luther king used to say there are two types of leaders, those that are transactional and those that are transformative. i think that is the transformative masses that have changed deployment to try to make something move forward, even if it's an incremental steps. >> that's. right i can tell you the police officers i spoke to today appreciated these marches taking place, certainly here in our city and around the country as well. the situation is dangerous for police officers on the streets right now. and police officers also know that they have to be seen as legitimate. that means everything needs to be transparent, there needs to be accountability.

good police officers appreciate that. i wish the strategy would never happen. we have to honor the pain by resetting the model what's great policing looks like, in conjunction with the community. >> all right. thank you mayor greg fisher for being with us. now for an update on the war on ukraine, joining me now is ali arouzi, out of kyiv hollywood is the latest there? >> good evening reverend. well today the european commission president made a surprise visit to kyiv had a meeting with president zelenskyy and she said membership status to the council is probably gonna be grounded to the next week. that's a very important step for full membership for ukraine to join the european union. president zelenskyy said the future of europe hinges on that

decision. this is something, as we've been talking about before, that ukraine really wants. they want to join the european union. a very important step for that country taking place today. on the eastern front, reverent, pounding of severe donna's continues. the ukrainians say that they are hitting the russians, they are causing losses for the russians, but that they are taking about 100 to 200 casualties a day. a senior adviser to president zelenskyy today said, in a rare admission, ukrainian troops have lost around 10,000 troops since the beginning of this conflict. today reverend, we attended the funeral of one of the soldiers who died in severodonetsk. at st. michaels compete will just behind me. let's take a listen to what one of the friends of the soldiers told us this morning. >> he was such a great it's -- to have the freedom to make our own choices and to live a life that we want to live.

i don't know. but this is the sacrifice we may. >> you, know it's these funerals reverent that face put a face on those figures that we're talking about. the ukrainians here are digging in for more losses as a pro for this were to go into the long haul. they are taking a lot of loss losses on the eastern front. they are determined to push the russians back because as they always tell, us they're fighting for their sovereign tree for their homes for their families. reverent. >> ali, thank you for being with us tonight from ukraine. coming up, the january six committee goes primetime with new details about what happened the day of the insurrection. my panel joins me later to talk about what we learned and what's political political impact will be. first my colleague melissa with the today's top news stories. >> hi. today stories that we're

watching this. hours demonstrators and hundreds of locations across the country march today in support of gun control legislation in the wake of recent mass shootings in buffalo, new york, and uvalde, texas. the march in washington, d.c., drew thousands of participants. the events were coordinated by march for our lives. that is the student-led movement that arose after the parkland florida school shooting in 2018. the average price for regular in the u.s. has topped $5 a gallon. for the first time ever, according to aaa. the national average price just 19 cents this past weekend is up nearly $2 over the past year. and voters in alaska are choosing between former vice president sarah palin and santa claus, or any one or nearly four dozen candidates in today's open primary for the states loan seat in congress. it is the first election alaska

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responders, not as a favor but a obligation. i think we have a responsibility as a government to deal with the communities that were put in such jeopardy. today, i am announcing that the federal government will cover 100 percent of the costs. [applause] a bridge he protective measures for the next critical months around the recovery. there will be a strong bridge until we pass the fire assistance act introduced by the senators -- to fully compensate survivors for their total loss. [applause] we will also provide loans for small businesses and farmers and ranchers, and make sure that this will not happen again --

>> that is president biden speaking from new mexico where a wildfire continues to burn talking about the future of the state. meanwhile, politics nation with reverend al sharpton will be back in a moment. first, here is ayman mohyeldin with a look at a special show tonight featuring the reverend. >> hey there, tonight a very special addition of a men starting at 7 pm, what we have learned from the first public hearing of the january six committee. our special report on the trump lies, gop cover-up and a lot more. i will be joined by lawrence tribe, the harvard law professor, all of that tonight at a special time of 7 pm eastern right here on msnbc. c.

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senior adviser for the republican women for progress and -- columnist for the washington post. rhea, the january six committee said that they have a mountain of information to be shared over the next couple of weeks, detailing how donald trump was at the center of a seven-part plan to overturn the 2020 election. the panel promises to directly implicate trump and now they have to deliver the facts. what challenges does the committee face to get their points across? >> first and foremost, the select committee must keep america's attention the way it captivated it the other night. that visual evidence that had never been seen before was so damning, but most of all, it was something that made me feel as if i was watching a movie, as if i was watching television

that was created for me, instead of actual footage of a day that i have become intimately familiar with. i remember the aerial shots of that day for months and weeks at their. we saw the shots and said, okay, fine, there were not that many people. there were naysayers saying that these were just tourists, it wasn't that bad, there weren't that many. but what we saw from the committee footage and the unseen footage was on the ground. that was truly telling of the exact carnage that happened that day. the witnesses, of course, told us some things that we have never heard before >>. officer edwards said that she was flipping in the blood of her colleagues, a line i was not prepared for. let's not forget the opening statement that the chairman and chairwoman ranking member, congresswoman liz cheney, her words, they will go down in history. she said something to the effect that donald trump will no longer be here one day, but to my republican colleagues, your this honor will remain.

that, reverend al sharpton, that is a line for the history books. >> i certainly concur with that. dana, in your latest article for the washington post, you write that it's beyond the january six committee's mandate to explain how so many people who began with honorable instincts ultimately retreated to join trump. and there is probably no convincing him, nor the tens of millions they have deceived, to correct course now. but the committees were gives hope that the dishonourable will, at least, earn histories rebuke. how will the house panel's final report safeguard future elections? are we doomed to repeat another january six like this attack? >> reverend, we may be doomed to repeat it regardless of what this committee is doing. but, what they are doing is

extraordinarily valuable, regardless, because in their hundreds of hours of testimony, thousands of documents, they are providing the evidence. they are providing the evidence in their own words of trump's former aides. we saw a little bit of a taste of that on thursday night. we will see and hear a lot more of that, people who were close to trump, actually saying that he knew, they knew that he had lost the election, and yet they went through this, fomented the violent riot, anyway. it is one thing for a member of congress to say that, even if it is liz cheney. it is entirely different thing to have the people standing there with the president, threatening to resign. i think we now know that there were more people in the white house administration that were confronting president donald trump in realtime. we will hear more about that -- >> including his own --

including his own attorney general that he selected. the justice department, we saw the video tape of the testimony saying that it was nonsense. staying with you a minute, dana, let's talk about new developments with jenny thomas, the wife of judge clarence thomas. as the washington post reports, jeanne pressed 29 lawmakers in arizona to set aside joe biden's popular vote victory and choose presidential electors, choose them now, according to emails. nbc has not confirmed the documents, but how do you see the latest revelations playing into the final days of the trump presidency?

>> reverend, it is not surprising in the sense that we already knew that she had been lobbying mark meadows, the presidential chief of staff. we already knew that she reached out to a couple of lawmakers and arizona. now, it looks like she was spamming them. it raises the level of the activism that we saw. she was doing everything except breaking windows with a flagpole. of course, this is not surprising given what we know so far, but it does increase the pressure on the supreme court. clarence thomas has shown no interest in refusing himself from potentially related cases. but, his colleagues on the court have to know that this whole situation is compromising even further the reputation and the legitimacy of the court. hopefully, some uncomfortable discussions will be going on there to make clarence thomas do the right thing, even if he wanted himself. >> reena, let's turn now to the issue of abortion rights, a

president biden saying that he is looking at ways to shore up abortion rights if the supreme court overturns roe v. wade in the coming weeks. this as biden is receiving pressure from senate democrats for a national plan to defend a person's right to an abortion. well options does the president have for addressing the concern of abortion rights and the advocates that warned before the midterm? >> certainly, this issue coming up this close to the midterms presents a real big quagmire for the white house. there is a childcare. it is purely political. that does not have as much to do with the supreme court as we think it does. the average american can think that this can be settled in the judicial branch, the executive branch, but the reality is that there are state houses across the country that are putting in jeopardy the lives of american women and their ability to have

safe access to abortion. reproductive rights for american women are on the line in a way to i have never seen in my lifetime. the reality is this, that if joe biden chooses to do something when it comes to protecting access to safe abortions, then he really will put himself in danger of the backlash that could ensue right at the midterms. republicans, we don't know, are they mobilizing in a way that says that we are not happy with what the white house is choosing to do? or will democrats feel super energized and say, let's push back and fight for the president in a way that we ought to? despite inflation, the economy looming large, and let's not forget, gun violence being so hot right now, the issue endangering the lives of so many americans around the country that want to see action from every level of government. i think that this is unfortunately a situation that the white house may be better off choosing to not act before the midterms. it brings me no happiness to

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capitol hill over than next weeks for the january 6th hearings, all remind my viewers that along with the law enforcement, when the capitol was breached, we also had federal workers. a sector with a large minority presence. some still dealing with the trauma of that day. joining me now is the -- national president of the american federation of government employees. mr. kelly, thank you for being with us tonight. >> governor. thank you for having us today. i am here at the philadelphia -- convention and we are having a lot of discussion about this very same topic. >> let me ask you about that topic. i've seen your leadership and how you fought for your member's. are you worried about the security of federal workers and general at the after last year's attack on the capitol?

and now the series of public hearings on that attack? are you concerned about your members? >> i certainly am. you gotta remember, i represent the va hospital. i represent social security workers. i represent b.o.p. employees. i represent i.c.e. employees. you know the people that are really upset, they're upset because maybe acclaim didn't go the way they wanted to go. these are the people on the front lines. -- i am very concerned about the people that i represent. >> now, i would imagine a lot of union presidents right now are hearing from their members about our nation's rising inflation. that is now at a 40 year high, according to the bureau of labor statistics yesterday. what are you hearing from your

members? >> reverend al, people have to understand that federal employees make on an average of about $50,000 a year. if you are a tsa worker, if you are worker in va, you don't even make that much. i'm very grateful to this president to make sure that no one makes under $15 an hour in the federal government. thanks for that. however, that's just not enough. we have to really do something about this. when you have a rising prices on gas, gases over $6 a gallon now. you have the landlords that is taking advantage of the people. you have consumers that are [inaudible] the price gouging epidemic. that's the problem. i think if we can get behind the deal that senator warren has, and make sure the

corporate greed is no more, and make sure that this bill is passed and that consumers finally get a rebate for being ripped off through this price gouging. i think that's where the problem really is. not on all of the iran career, but the price gouging. that's a major problem i think. >> up with yesterday's news that the biden administration will no longer require [inaudible] for international travelers coming into the country, up [inaudible] i really grateful for tsa workforce. they have been right there on the front lines every single day along with others like the

va, like the border patrol, all those guys. my objective is this. i want to make sure that the employees are safe. that is one of the things that we have always advocated for. we understand that the vaccine 's health issue, and we want to make sure that our employees are healthy and are in a healthy situation. but we also want to make sure that the employees are safe, when those people are coming through that, line we want to make sure our employees are safe. -- not only mask-wearing but the employees for the employees but also for the public. that's also a health measure for the employees that i represent. >> that's sort of where, i'm out of, time but that's sort of the threat you have to threat to the needle, where one level of politics of your union members are one, thing but another, level you have to also challenge the administration and others to remember the

membership in terms of their health, their life, and their earnings. you've been one of the few union leaders that i've known -- that has been able to thread that needle pretty well. >> well thank you sir. i'm trying hard. >> all right. thank you for coming. on i really wanted to talk to about a couple of important things. thank you. stay safe. still to come up, an update on charges in the police shooting death of patrick -- plus my final thoughts. you're watching politics nation. we'll be right back. right back.

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american voices, i am julian castro, in four of the sherman undoes. we begin tonight with the big lie and two of the lawyers that pushed it. the washington post has learned that ginni thomas has pressured more than two dozen lawmakers in arizona to overturn the election. not only is she married to one of the most conservative justices on the supreme court, she is an attorney in her own right. meanwhile, former trump lawyer rudy giuliani faces an ethics investigation in d.c.. charges filed after the january six committee mentioned his role in the insurrection. the committees first hearing