happening. you know, it is all happening, this is great. even if he didn't plan the violence himself, he was exploiting, it and taking advantage of it. >> i was going to, say the demeanor of jared kushner and ivanka, you know, they acted so tough in the public for the last four years. then you kind of see their demeanor in those hearings. >> it's because you are under oath, honey. they are watching you. you have the fbi watching. it is very different. >> symone sanders, david corn, glenn kirschner, cynthia alksne, we learned something about norwegians, they're always linear, always all-time. we very much appreciated. our special coverage of the first public hearing of the january six committee continues, and we now want to turn our focus to the human toll of the riot. as we heard it from capitol police officers, caroline edwards who is at the capitol complex when it was breached by the trump mob. video footage that was played during the hearing showed the moment that officer edwards was attacked. and this is how she described it. >> i felt the bike rack come on

top of my head. i was pushed backwards, and my foot caught this terrible hind me, and my chin hit the handrail, and then at that point i had blacked out. >> she was knocked unconscious, even though she was bleeding, and days from the traumatic brain injury, she had just suffered, somehow she miraculously returned to duty on that day. thousands of protesters directed to the capitol, fine -- by donald trump himself, quickly began to overwhelm the police. and as officer edwards try to hold that line, she saw a colleague in distress. it was bryan sicknick. >> i see movement to the left of me, and i turn, and it was officer sicknick with his head in his hands. he was ghostly pale.

i look back to see would have hit him, would have happened, and that is when i got sprayed in the eyes as well. >> and officer sicknick was injured while trying to control the trump mob. he suffered two strokes, and died the next day. the assault on the capitol continued for hours. >> what i saw was just a war scene. it was something like i had seen out of movies. i could not believe my eyes. there were officers on the ground, you know, they were pleading, they were throwing up, they were -- they had, i mean, i saw friends with blood all over their faces. i was slipping in peoples blood. it was carnage, it was chaos, i can't even describe what i saw.

never in my wildest dreams did i think that as a police officer, as a law enforcement officer, i would find myself in the middle of a bottle. i am trained to detained a couple of subjects, and handle a crowd, but i am not combat trained. that day it was just hours of hand to hand combat. hours of dealing with things that were way beyond any law enforcement officer has ever trained for. i just remember that moment of stepping behind the line, and just seeing the absolute war zone that the west front have become. >> so officer edwards and her capitol police colleagues, federal officers who found themselves in a war zone. fighting a domestic enemy that

had been radicalized and encouraged by none other than president of the united states. what would have happened that day if we did not have the brave officers like caroline edwards, and brian sicknick, defending the capitol from the trump mob. what would have happened? think about that for a moment. officer edwards is still recovering from the injury she suffered on that day. she has not yet returned to the force. joining me now is democratic congressman, mike quigley of illinois. thank you so much for joining us this evening. you were among the last members evacuated from the house chamber on january the 6th. what was it like for you to watch that presentation, to hear the words of that officer, and others? >> yes. that is tough. i agree with everyone who said that the committee did a good job setting the scene, and talking about why it mattered. but for those of us in the gallery who could hear the gunshots, who could hear the tear gas canisters going, and the screams, it is incredibly

powerful. it is almost beyond my capability of putting it into words, seeing the service, the sacrifices, and obviously as you know, the ultimate sacrifice those officers gave. i would not be here, i know that, and as you know, the insurrectionists came within feet of number two, number three, number four. we came very, very close to a successful coup. these officers under -- we're outnumbered, without proper equipment, they were extraordinary. how do you properly think them? i think that the only thing that you can do is for this committee, and the ag, to hold those accountable who were responsible. i hear a lot about why this happens to our country. i think that is right, we owe it to those, as officer edwards

said, who had to fight a battle and eight were on the capitol steps. >> you know, you said on the house committee, you are privy to a lot of information. did you learn things that you did not know before this hearing on thursday evening? >> no. i will be honest, we heard some things in the preliminary investigations, and part of this, a variety of forms, different committees, but i had never seen that video, and much of what i learned, particularly about the actions of my colleagues, that was a new one for me. but there is a lot there. and the american people are going to continue to learn as we watch these hearings. i am hoping that at least 20 million watching this, and those who occasionally watch other networks, i hopefully they wake up and recognize how important this is to their democracy. >> let me ask you about the

pardons for a moment. the vice chair liz cheney said that the committee has evidence that congressman scott, and multiple other republican congressman sought presidential pardons for their roles in attempting to overturn the 2020 election. first, do you know the identity of those other members? second, what does that say that they continue to serve, despite seeking those pardons? >> sure. people ask me if i work in a toxic environment. first, i have to go through metal detectors now. when you get on the house floor, and that is to protect me from my colleagues. the news has trickled out about the activities of my colleagues to do this. yes, it is hard to work in a line of government with colleagues who potentially tried to get me killed, and clearly wanted to overturn a lawful election. so all of the more reason. and the particular attention needs to be drawn to leader mccarthy, during the hearing on

thursday, liz cheney pointed out that both of them were scared. that is understandable. what he said only a week after january 6th, was understandable. he said the responsibility -- the president of the united states, president trump, bears responsibility. and then we later heard that he said that he should resign. what's happened since then, right? he and his party are clearly putting their party over the country. and the power that they see, over what is right. i pray to god that the american people can see through this, watch this, and learn that this investigation will continue, and the attorney general's investigation is the key to preserving our democracy. >> i don't know if you saw this, but on friday, conservative commentator bill kristol tweeted out tons of counter programming from the right, but no counter evidence. this was a bipartisan investigation. but how significant was it for the hearing that the trump

defenders made the decision not to participate? you had a massive platform, like fox, not even airing it and trying to convince that segment of the country, or at least showing that segment of the country the evidence, but rather presenting them in this alternate universe. >> yes. we grew up in a world where we used to say, i will believe it when i see it. i think the alternative reality here in this country is really scary, it is that their belief is they will see it when they believe it. if you watch these videos, and you do not see when we see, there is something, very very dangerous going on. >> all right congressman mike quigley, it is always a pleasure. thank you for making time for us this evening. we greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> still ahead, the coordinated effort from alt-right extremist groups to overthrow the american government on january the 6th. we will break that down. at down. ♪ ♪

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destroy that they. the committee also should footage of a private deposition of members discussing trump's infamous stand by and stand back comment. watch. >> my name is mark's children and i am in the investigative committee of the january six act. >> would you want to call? >> white supremacists -- >> proud boys, stand back and stand by. >> after he made this comment, enrique tarrio, then chairman of the proud boys, set in parlor, standing by sir. we learned this comment during the presidential debate led to increase in membership of the proud boys. >> would you say that proud boys numbers increased after these them back, stand by comment? >> exponentially -- i would say triple probably, with the potential for a lot more eventually. >> did you sell any stand back, then by merchandise? >> one of the vendors on my

paycheck could beat me to it. i wish i would have. i wish i made a stand back, stand by shirt. >> in 2019, president trump tweeted about the january 6th rally, telling attendees, be there, will be wild. many other witnesses that we interviewed were inspired by the presidents call and came to d.c. for january six. but the extremist took it a step further, they viewed this tweet as a call to arms. a day later, the department of justice described how the proud boys created a chant called the ministry of self-defense chat. in this chat, the problems established a command structure in anticipation of coming back to d.c. on january six. the department justice describes mr. tarrio of coming into a document called the 1776 returns. it describes individuals occupying key buildings around the capitol. the oath keepers are another group that the committee investigated. >> you better get your butt to d.c., folks, the saturday. >> if you don't, there would be no more republic. we will not let that happen.

encourage, bolstered and stick them to do what we want to do, or we will end up in a bloody fight. we know that the fight is. coming >> the oath keepers began to block the peaceful transfer of power shortly before the election. the department of justice, stewart rhodes, the oath keepers leader, said that their followers will not get through this without a civil war. in response to the december 19th, 20 2020 by 20 president trump, they wrote this -- in response to the tweet, one member, the president of the florida chapter, put on social media that the president called us to the capitol, he wants to make us wild. the goal of the oath keepers were called to duty to keep the president in power, although president trump had just lost the election. the committee learned that the oath keepers set up quick reaction forces outside of the city in virginia, where they stored arms. the goal of these quick reaction forces will be on standby in case that president trump invoked the insurrection act.

>> did the oath keepers ever provided weapons to members? >> i will answer that undue process grounds. >> in footage obtained by the committee, we learned that on the night of january 5th, enrique tarrio and stewart rhodes met in a parking lot in washington d.c.. >> there is mutual respect there. i think that we are fighting the same fight. >> the committee learned that the oath keepers went into the capitol through the east doors and to stack for missions. the doj alleges that one of the stacks went into the capitol looking for speaker pelosi, although they never found or. as the unpack was unfolding, mr. tarrio to credit. documents obtained by the department of justice said in an encrypted chat, make a mistake, we did this. later on that evening, mr. tarrio even posted a video that seemed to resemble him in front of the capitol with a black cape. the title of the video was, premonition.

the evidence developed, but the select committee and department of justice highlighted how each group participated in an attack on the capitol on january six. >> in fact, the investigation revealed that it was individuals associated with a proud boys who instigated the initial breach at the p circle at 12:53 pm. >> usa! >> within ten minutes, riders had already filled the lower west plaza. by 2:00, rioters had breached the doors on the west and east plazas. by 2:13, riders had actually broken through the senate wing door and got into the capital building. [noise] a series of breaches followed. at 2:25 pm, rioters breached the eastside stores. [noise] right after 2:40 pm, rioters breached the east side doors in the ways and means

room. >> whose house! >> once the rioters evaded the capitol, they moved to the crypt, the rotunda, the hallways leading to the house chamber and even inside the senate chambers. >> the justice department had charged the leaders of both of those groups with seditious conspiracy. for more, we are joined by the reverend al sharpton, host of the msnbc politics nation and simone sanders, still with me here on set in d.c.. rev, what struck you the most about this presentation, this particular presentation that we played? >> i think what struck me the most was the documentarian was very methodical in being able to come with things that some of us had suspected. i have organized big march is the last 2025 years in washington. there is no such thing as a

spontaneous spin off the weight that they were trying to tell us. it does not have been. you sometimes have people that cause trouble at your marches, but people even had the instruments there, that had the tools that they needed, this had to be well-planned. any of us that had ever to marches knew the. the pieces did not fit in terms of having first person testimony until these people that had done the documentary could actually show the footage, show the people and show how this was methodically done. i don't think we are finished. it could not have happened without some intelligence prior to the day. and some cooperation by people working in the capital, because remember, under covid, you could not get into the capitol, that helped them to plan and lay out what they did. this was a well planned, attempted insurrection.

it was an attempted coup. this was not some spontaneous troublemakers that got angry at a gathering. we have had too many of them, and we know the difference. >> you bring up an interesting point about basically where this investigation goes from here. what do you want to see laid out in the coming days and hearings from the committee? >> i want them to lay out not only the proud boys and other groups that were involved, but who they had help from. who was the once that gave them the ability to tore a closed capital building the day before, when they were visitors. you can already get there with members of congress or their staff brought un. who corroborated this? and, what's direct involvement did they have with people around presidential hump and those people talking directly to president trump? >> i think that just to get the people at the end of the line

of the insurrectionists and not deal with all of those involved in the conspiracy, would be a disservice. i think that we are clearly where we can get the actors, we need to get those that roped the act and helped to conspire to put the act into effect. >> simone, from a communication standpoint, how would you rate the messaging and narrative that was presented by the committee with these particular witnesses, both the officer who was suffering the attack and and during the attack and this documentary filmmaker who's able to reveal this very important connect the dots moment between the proud boys and oath keepers. >> i thought that was the most compelling part of the thursday january six hearings. going into this, folks like myself are saying, this needs to be great television. i think it is compelling but not great. i think 20 million watched, that is great.

over 30 million people watched the state of the union in february. i do think that it is on the committee going forward to think about what makes ktv. what makes great tv is telling a story, giving visuals, allow people to see and feel it. i do think, again, that the officer and documentary filmmaker very compelling in that manner, because it made the point that régis laid out. many of us have been saying for months that obviously this was coordinated. come on. it is one thing to say, but it is another thing for people to believe the big lie and see people like oath keepers, like the proud boys leadership, lay out just how coordinated and orchestrated it really was. this is not some crazy accusation. the truth was right before people to see with their own eyes and here with their own ears. >> it was cornered, orchestrated and extremely violent, even if you have members of congress saying that this was a dustup, or tourists on an ordinary day in capitol

hill, or peaceful purpose. let me play both of you at this moment of exchange. it shows both the verbal and physical attack. i will get your reactions to it on the other side. watch. >> we are coming in, if you don't bring her out! [inaudible] you back up! you back up! >> [noise] >> rev, first you, we talk a lot about police violence against black people, i can tell you with a lot of confidence, if i said that to a police officer on capitol hill, i may not sitting in front of you today. yet, here was this woman and a lot of other white folk on the hill that they are attacking the police, beating the police and yet, as you saw, in some cases, they just melted away, backed away. in other cases, they put up a fight, yet, we did not see the kind of reaction we knew it

would have been if it was a people of a difference in tone. >> if it had been you or any of us, we would never have gone as far as they got physically. we would not have had these kind of encounters. i think that the real contradiction here is that these are the same people that when we marched around police proudly that set blue lives matter, and they did not matter to them at all that they. when we get past the drama, when we get past the theater, these people were there to overthrow an election. i think that the more this is traumatized and brought home, people need to understand that this is not about whether biden's president or trump's president, or democrats are up, republicans down. this is about whether we are going to allow people to overthrow the united states electoral process and, therefore, become a banana republic.

i think that we began to start moving toward having merck is understand that night. if they can continue to go down a path, which is why i think of congresswoman liz cheney statement was so important, it goes from one against the other two what this country is going to stand for. because if you let this happen, it is a matter of time that somebody will successfully overthrow the election. that is what's at stake here. that is what you have to drive home. >> simone, your thoughts on this, seeing a mostly exclusive white mob attacking police in this angry way. >> i was on capitol hill that day, a couple blocks from the capitol at the democratic national committee with vice president. when the bomb threat was called in, secret service evacuated everyone in that building, including the vice president elect, harris. when i came home and watched on tv, i was terrified. i was so sure, oh my goodness,

all these cameras are on and what happens -- i did not even think -- what happens when they start shooting people on the steps of the united states capitol? praise the lord, it did not happen. there was not that level -- there was violence, but mass numbers of people were not shot on the steps of the united states capitol. i'm not saying that is what i wanted to happen. that is what my mind immediately went to because what we had seen over the last couple of months, honestly, and over the last year leading up to that moment on january six. reverend sharpton is absolutely correct. i hope people at home are listening to rev. this is not about democrats versus republicans. this is about our democracy. this is about the united states of america, we're a tenant of our democracy, a free open election, transfer of power peacefully, that is apparently not who we are anymore. -- >> the attempted coup is not

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but bikes president pence that each of those things. here is what's chairman melanie, testified to the committee. >> two or three calls with vice president pence. he was very animated. he was very explicit, very direct, unambiguous orders. there was no question about that. he was very animated, very direct, very firm to secretary milley. get the military, get the car down here, put down the situation. >> by contrast, here is general milley's description of his conversation with president trump's chief of staff, mark meadows, on january six. >> he said, we have to kill the narrative that the vice president is making all the decisions. we need to establish the

narrative that the president is still in charge and that things are steady or stable. i interpret that as, politics politics, politics. that is a red flag for me personally, no action. >> you will hear that president trump was yelling, in quote, really angry at advisers who told him that he needed to be do something more. aware of the rioters chants to hang mike pence, the president responded with the sentiment, quote, maybe our supporters have the right idea. mike pence, quote, deserves it. >> donald trump disowned mike pence after january the six because pence did put trump should have done, he tried to stop the mob from overthrowing our government. we will have more on the after the break. the break. ... it's hot! and wayfair's got just what you need. we need a rug.

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public hearing showed just how close we can do having our democracy basically destroyed forever. the thing is that the threat still remains. trump might very well win the 2024 republican nomination. even if he doesn't win, hearing how deeply infected the republican party had become. if dozens of republican and neighbors who voted to overturn the election. what happens if the numbers continue to grow in 2022 and beyond? what can we do to stop this cycle? joining me now are daniel weiner and joshua perry, who works for the brooklyn is a two and just call roe a guide to the hearings called, trump on trial. gentlemen, it is great that both of you with us. let me start with you if i can getting straight to the study that you cowrote, saying trump is on trial here. lay out the case for viewers as to how he is on trial at this moment. >> sure, the key question here

is, can donald trump be held criminally accountable for his actions and inaction surrounding january six. more broadly, for everything that he did to try to overturn the results of a popular election. we looked at two federal statutes that we saw were probably most really applicable here. that is 18 u.s. three 71, which forbids defrauding the united states government and 18 usc, 15 12, which stops obstructing an official proceeding. we believe that a fair minded prosecutor could indict. we believe that a fair minded jury might well convict, based on what the public record says. now we have seen more that has come out there in the hearings, i think the case skinny stronger. >> daniel, you also a study on a hearing saying that it is imperative for congress to facilitate a thorough public reckoning. with all that happened on

jenner six, do you see that from the first hearing that we saw on thursday. >> it is a pleasure to be here tonight. i think we do see the. if you look at the great congressional hearings of the past, this is in that tradition. they filled multiple purposes, obviously, examining the possibility that violations is important. there is a larger public reckoning that also needs to take place. that is what happened in watergate. that is what happened in other hearings. i do think that the committee did an excellent job, in particular, the chair men and congresswoman cheney laid out the full truth and what they are going to show about the effect really that this was a known attempt by people that knew they lost the election -- this is critical, they knew they lost to know there are the less divide the will of the american people. i think he needs to repudiate that.

we need to make sure that our future elections are safeguarded and that american democracy continues. i think they are on the way to doing that. it was an excellent first hearing. i think that is what we will hear from subsequent hearings. >> i want to get both of your reaction to the next point, that is about the future of our democracy. can congress stop january six from happening again? i don't mean that in the physical sense, in terms of preventing crowds to get to the capital, but preventing the overthrow or the change of the electoral process. a lot of the people who were there on that day on january six, they are now running for office in various states across this country, ready for school boards, running for local government positions and in some cases, seeing state elections. the question begs, does this have the chance of happening again but in a different shape and form? josh? >> yeah, absolutely. that is part as why these

hearings are critical. i would say an answer specific question, yes, congress has a role to play here. there certainly are reforms to the electoral count that can help prevent some strategies that we saw donald trump and his inner circle, and the insurrectionists, used to try to overturn the election. more broadly, the responsibility of preventing this from happening is going to be incumbent on every elected official and every voter at every level of our government. what we are going to find increasingly necessary is to fight this fight in every secretary of state race that is happening in every state across the country, in every state legislator, because we are now seeing, as i am sure you know, the threat of the independent state legislator doctrine. the idea that states can unilaterally overturn the popular will of voters in their state. this is going to trickle down

to every level of our government, and it is going to be incumbent on voters and officials of all kind, and law enforcement to, at every level to be pushing back hard against the insurrectionists who are now embedded in our political system. we need to be rooted out. >> danny, your thoughts? >> i am really grateful to you for making clear that the attack on the capitol ungenerous excess was terrible, but this is a much broader problem. it began before january six. it began before the 2020 election, when you had misinformation and distrust about the voting process spread far and wide, including by the president of the united states. he is continuing it today. i completely agree. you see attacks on election officials. you see efforts to interfere with machinery in the elections. you see efforts to interfere

and prevent the right to vote. particularly, targeting black and brown americans and other communities of color. what do we do? i think there are two ports here. the attack on our democracy needs to be repudiated, and it needs to be repudiated with a shared understanding that this is not acceptable. then, we need to take the steps to safeguard, a straw said the 2022 midterms and the 2024 reelection. but i think over the long term, it will be incumbent on congress to also enact guardrails that this will not happen again. which includes national standards to protect the right to vote and other measures to respect the integrity of the process. i think that is important. >> i am concerned that congress has not risen to this moment in the first two years that has had the ability to get some things done, to make sure things don't happen again. daniel weiner, joshua perry, thank you very much, appreciate your insights. still ahead, trump's behavior

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of the trump cabinet discussing the possibility of invoking the 25th amendment and replacing the president of the united states. multiple members of president trump's own cabinet resigned immediately after january six. one member of the cabinet suggested that the remaining cabinet officers needed to take a more active role in running the white house and the administration. some in the white house took responsible steps to try to prevent january six. others egg at the president on. others, who could have acted, refused to do so. in this case, the white house counsel was so concerned about potentially lawless activity, that he threatened to resign multiple times. that is exceedingly rare and exceedingly serious. it requires immediate attention, especially when the entire team there into resign. however, in the trump white house, it was not exceedingly

rare, and it was not as treated seriously. this is a clip of jared kushner, addressing multiple threats by white house counsel, mike cipollone, and his team lawyers to resign in the weeks before january six. >> jarred, are you aware of instances where pets baloney threatened to resign? >> like i said, my interest was trying to get things of importance don. i know that he and the team are always like, we will resign, we will not be here, if the subpoenas, if that happens. i took it up to be wanting, to be honest with you. >> whining? there is a reason that people in our government take an oath for the constitution. as our founding fathers recognized, our democracy is fragile. people in public doesn't positions are duty bound to defend it, to step forward when action is required. in our country, we don't swear and to an individual or

political party. we take our oath to defend the united states constitution. that oath must mean something. >> basically, resignations in the trump white house, they basically want together like in a butter and jelly. symone sanders and david corn are back with us. i never worked at the white house, so i don't have the experience that you have. this was next-level crazy, right? it is not normal for a white house, even in the white house that is made up of a team of rivals, to have competition, to have these kinds of threats of vaccination and people trying to backstop each other and say that you cross this line, the whole team is out of here. another guy saying that they are all whining, i would not listen to them anymore. >> it is insane would jarred kushner said in the clip. because, the white house counsel, whenever you need to do anything at the white house, if you want to host a luncheon or speak somewhere, you run it through the council office, because the white house counsel office is the arbiter of anyone

that works inside the executive office of the president can and should, should not be doing. they help set the rules. if the white house counsel is saying that what you are doing is so egregious that i cannot be here, and i will leave if you do this, and take all my people with me, red flag, red flag emoji. that is callous to say that he is wanting, this is serious. then remain, the current white house counsel, when she speaks, people listen. >> betsy davos, the former education secretary, talked to usa today apparently about possibly some plan, i want to get this right, she spoke with the vice president about invoking the 25th amendment but pence made it clear that he would not go in that direction. again, for me, it is mind-blowing that the sitting cabinet member would discuss with the vice president about the 25th amendment to remove the president because of his -- >> and his ability and

unwillingness to do the job, as we talked about early, not coming to the rescue of the u.s. government one it was under assault. all of this, whether it is the council threatening to resign over and over again, or members of the cabinet talking about the 25th amendment, i can guarantee you, none of that happened india bomb a minister shun. it did not happen in a george w. bush administration. it did not happen now. she can tell you that. the thing that gets me is that, okay, this is all related to what happened on january six. between november and january six, those two months, trump was out there lying every single day to try to subvert the election and the u.s. government. as the committee has shown, bill barr and others have said this publicly, also internally, that there was no fraud. they all stood by trump, while he was trying to basically delegitimized the election and the incoming biden administration. betsy devos stood by him.

no one said, i am out of here. ivanka, jarred, who now tell us that they don't believe this, they did not leave. they did not go public. >> for four years, the argument we heard was that everyone wanted to be the adult in the room because this guy was crazy. what are you saying, why do you think they stayed in those final weeks of did not bail on this guy when he was crazy and accepting the truth? >> they did not have the guts to do it. they did not have the guts to do it. >> these are not profiles encouraged -- >> they are not profile in courage. they stood by trump through all sorts of craziness and lies and the management of the covid response, the stuff with russia. they stood by him because it served their purposes. now, they're trying to get out quietly. it is over, we will get out of here, they did not think that generous is cutting. exit stage right, very quietly. but they never stood up while he was attacking democracy before generous six. >> betsy the boss, before the

general six committee, come on, these articles coming out trying to make everybody saying that they're doing their due diligence and are part, i am calling bs. >> i was about to call it, they are not good faith actors. every one of these people had a chance to come forward with what they knew, when they knew it, but they saw, and yet they chose not to participate in the january six hearing. >> okay, fine, maybe they say that we don't want to participate in the hearing. why now? why are we hearing about these profiles encouraged now? because the january six committee is not coming out with their presentation to the american people, and you want to make sure that your tale is covered in that story. what dana said is absolutely right, there is a war happening in ukraine right now because russia has unnecessarily invaded another sovereign nation. let's not forget that donald trump, way back when he was president, we will give you the javelins if you do not investigate my political opponent. where will the people there? there was a pattern here. donald trump's conduct, he did not just wake up on january six and become -- >> donald trump.

>> there was a pattern here. >> this is not part of the general six investigation, but look, there was this moment, a couple nanoseconds after january six, where mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy said that he had to go. they said that this was too far, it was impeachable, he should resign. within weeks or days -- >> mccarthy went down to florida and basically had [inaudible] >> symone sanders, david corn, it's symone, polling double duty, appreciate it. i will return the favor anytime you need it. thank you so much. thank you for watching our special on the first public hearing from the january six committee. don't go anywhere, we will be back, yes believe it, a third hour of the panel. we will break down the other major news stories from the week. don't go anywhere.

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