okay. ahhh! wa-hoo! ha ha! no! no ha ha! tonight on "the reidout" -- >> he said more people voted in philadelphia than there were voters, and that absolutely rubbish. >> and i said something to the effect of, circumstances we've done dozen of investigations, hundreds of interviews, the major allegations are not supported by the evidence developed. >> lie, cheat and steal. testimony today at the second

january 6th hearing reveals that trump knew he lost but tried to steal the election anyway while cheating his maga supporters out of their hard-earned money. plus, some are calling the gun reform framework a good first step. that suggests more is coming. color me skeptical. we'll talk about all that have and more with karine jeanpierre in her first live primetime interview since she made history, become the new white house press secretary. but we begin with day two of public hearings by the house january 6th committee today showing how donald trump deliberately launched the big lie to convince his own voters that he won an election he lost using claims of nonexistent fraud and then seeking to corrupt the justice department, his own campaign team, his donors and our court system in an effort to cling to power. if you think he cooked up that plan after the election as a hail mary simply because he couldn't accept defeat understand that donald trump

went into the election already planning to lie about the outcome having laid the groundwork for months. >> mail ballots are very dangerous thick for this country because they're cheaters. when you do all mail-in voting ballots, you're asking for fraud. the only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged. remember that. i've been complaining very strongly about the ballots, and the ballots are a disaster. get rid of the ballots and we'll have a very peaceful -- there won't be a transfer frankly. there will be a continuation. this is going to be a fraud like you've never seen. >> and then on election night despite being told by numerous advisers, all diehard republicans whose testimony we heard that it was too early to declare victory since votes were still being count and the predicted outcome frankly didn't look favorable for him, trump did it anyway falsely claiming that the election was stolen. today we learned more about who was advising him to make that claim from former campaign

adviser jason miller including this revelation about that individual's condition at the time. >> definitely intoxicated, but i do know that his level intoxication when he spoke with the president, for example. effectively giuliani was saying we won it. we're stealing this from us. where did all the votes come from? we need to go say that we won, and essentially nip who didn't agree with that position was being weak. >> an attorney for rudy giuliani denied he was drinking that night, but we heard giuliani on tape telling the committee he did speak to the former president several times on election night and in the days that followed. the increasingly far cy cal claims took center stage despite being told the troupe by his

campaign manager, bill stepien and his own white house lawyers. >> i didn't mind being categorized. there were two groups, we called them my team and rudy's team. i didn't mind being characterized as being part of team normal as reporters, you know, kind of started to do around that point in time. i didn't think what was happening was necessarily very professional at that point in time. >> what they were propose i thought was nuts. the theory was also completely nuts. >> even his extravagantly loyal attorney general william barr told trump that there was no fraud, specifically asking false claims with dominion investigate systems which have gotten giuliani and powell sued were ludicrous. >> i told them that the stuff that his people were shuttling out to the public was bull [ bleep ], that the claims of fraud were bull [ bleep ]. i thought, boy if he really believes this stuff, know, he has lost contact with -- with --

he's become detached from reality if he really believes this stuff. when i went into this and would, you know, tell him how crazy some of these allegations were, there was never -- there was never an indication of interest nor what the actual facts were. >> in fact, trump's claims in the immediate aftermath of the election were so bizarre. former fox news political editor chris stirewalt put it this way. >> after the election as of november 7th, in your judgment what were the chances of president trump winning the election? >> after that point? >> yes. >> none. the idea that through any normal process in any of these states, remember, he had to do it thrice, he needed three of these states to change and in order to do that, i mean, you're -- you're better off to play the powerball. >> despite knowing full way that his claims were a lie trump

still began marking the snake oil of a stolen election starting from his first post-election interview, an interview bill barr referenced in his testimony. >> everybody said this is over. i'm telling you 10:00, everybody thought it was over, and then -- then the phony mail-in started coming in, maria, but just so you understand. i get 74 million votes. it was over, and then mail-ins started happening, glitches started happening. this election was rigged. this election is a total fraud. >> after months of those lies by january 6th the train had left the station and millions of trump support hers been infected by the big lie with a mob primed and ready to march on the capitol. >> 200,000 people that weren't registered 4. 30,000 -- 430,000 vote just

appeared. you can't tell me that's right. if the election is being stolen what, is it going to take? >> joining me now is the anchor and moderator of "washington week on" pbs and msnbc washington correspondent. jill winebanks former assistant watergate prosecutor and kurt bardella adviser to the dnc. >> merrick garland is paying attention what's going on. capitol hill republicans are paying attention to this. we know fox news did carry that today and we know that's what plays in their tvs in their offices. if significant numbers of republicans were watching, what's been the reaction? >> well, from my conversations with republicans today people are watching. this was really a black box being opened into the white house with people really hearing from the people that were

closest to president trump who were warning him that his lie could not metastasize and then watching it metastasize. you also heard from people this, shrinking inner circle that basically said i can no longer be part of this. i was texting with one trump aide who literally traveled to different states trying to convince people that the election was rigged. this real looked like president trump was, quote, extremely coupleable and made him seem as he's someone who is now chasing a fool's dream, that anybody going down this road with president trump is continuing to really just believe in things that are not going to happen at all and that it's actually pretty dangerous. i also want to note really quickly that this was also a fund raising aspect of this. trump has become a fund raysing giant and this is still politically viable for president trump and the people sticking with him to support this lie. that being said, there are a lot of lies but i don't know if there will be a lot of minds changed, joy. >> of course, because they are also using it as an excuse to

pass restrictive voting laws that have been helpful for all republicans up and down the aisle, the ballot. jill winebanks, the other thing that's important to note and we sort of got into that a little bit in the open, it's not as if trump woke up after the november 3rd election and started to believe the big lie. he was setting up to do the big lie. in fact, that's his history. he says any election that he doesn't like the outcome is stolen. he claimed it was undocumented immigrants that elected barack obama, and with hillary clinton he was already setting up to say that this election was going to be stolen. he even said that the election in iowa when he lost to ted cruz was stolen. he said ted cruz, that was stolen, that was fraud, so it -- it is a pattern, so there's no way that any republican or anybody other that inguess his voters could say that this was something new, right? >> you can not say it's something new, and i think what was shown today was very compelling evidence that proves that he knew that it was a big

lie. he knew the truth, and he can't use his lack of knowledge as a defense this case. the jury, if there were a criminal case, would be instructed that willful ignorance of the facts is not a defense, and especially when the only person or persons who whether giving him the information that it was okay that he hnlt lost was an inebriated rudy giuliani and kraken lawyer sidney powell whereas everybody else from his campaign, his attorney general, all of those surrounding women who had a reason to be vision him, who were actual employees, all said you lost and there is no fraud. so it's not a defense, and that's very important what they did today >> you know, kurt, you know, listen, donald trump was not listened to the people who whether were tip lipping on the ripple allegedly because he no choice and he was desperate. he was doing this because he

wanted to. let's go to bill steppian. his testimony to me was very important because he came into the campaign when they were already worried they were going to lose. they already had problems. he wasn't the original campaign manager. here's what he said today. >> i inherited a campaign that was the day i was hired i believe president trump's low point in the 2020 daily average polling against president biden. it was a campaign at a low point in the polls. it was structurally and fiscally deficient. you know, there was a great deal wrong with the campaign in both of those -- in both of those areas. most of my time spent fixing the things that could be fixed. >> and by the way, this is also the same campaign manager, kurt, you and i are both very familiar with campaigns, who said it would be a bad idea to downplay

and get his voters to hate mail-in balloting because usually mail-in balloting is good for republicans. he dug his own grave by doing that. your thought on the way that this played out today and what we learned? >> well, i think that the key headline here is that the big lie was nothing but exaggerated click bait nonsense designed to drive up profit and donations for donald trump to grifting his own supporters, you know. the last thing that we saw in this hearing today when zoe lofgren articulated what the committee had found in terms of where the money that they raised, $250 million and none of it went to an election defense fund or any type of voter fraud investigative unit, it tells us that the motive of all of this, day one, the minute that the polls closed in november of 2020 was making money from his supporters, gifting the diehard supporters the same way steve bannon gristed his supporters for the build the wall fund and

that was also found to be a crime. that's what this was all about, that donald trump profited from the big lie. that everything we saw to listening to drunk giuliani to ignoring all of his advisers and ignoring his attorney general was all about grifting, keeping the grist going forward, and, you know, it's mind-numbing to me, joy, that even now all this time removed from the election, there are still republicans who are bending over backwards to try to get this guy support, following his lead, keeping him at the top of the republican party despite all the things we need. for any republican that is still following this guy, you're following drunk rudy at this time. >> let's not leave out bill barr and i'll going to you on this, jill. bill barr is doing a laundry deal. he told trumpet truth and he did an ap interview when he said

this was all craze, it was not true, it was crazy stuff, it was bs. this is what he was saying before the election about mail-in balloting. >> mailing out universally of ballots, what you've said that opens the floodgate to potential fraud and coercion. >> we're very closely divided country here, and if people have to have confidence in the results of the election and the legitimacy of the government, and people trying to change the rules to this methodology which as a matter of logic is very open to fraud and coercion. >> you know, liberals project, you know, the support going to stay in office and seize power and that you will. i've never heard any of that cram. i'm the attorney general. >> oak the europe, jill. this is the guy who lied about the mueller report works did a fake investigation that is still going on about the origins of the russia gate investigation, attack voting by mail, called

covid lockdowns the greatest intrusion on civil american lib sis and promoted the theory of the deep state. i could go on but we don't have the time, jill winebanks. what do you make of the idea that he now becomes the number one witness so far as used by the committee against his former boss, donald trump? >> i'm very happy that he's telling the truth now. i think he towed to the country to tell the truth when it mattered. there's something that could be done that will prevent trump were running for office again. he failed and he didn't do his diet as a public servant. he was obligated to do that so better late than never, i guess, but it's -- and, again, it would have been even more powerful if he had testified in person. i would hike to see more live testimony because i know from

the watergate trial that a live witness just has much more impact on a jury. >> yeah. >> than recordings, even the recordings of the president saying, committing crimes on tape is not as effective as hearing a witness say this is what i heard. this is what i did, so we need more of that. >> very quickly, yamiche, this was republicans against republicans. no one on capitol hill can say this was partisan attacks on trump, right? >> well, of course, kevin mccarthy is saying that. at the end of the day you have something that no other president in history has try to do, and i have to note that president trump put out a 12-page statement tonight saying that the hearing is made up and the committee is unfair. that tells you he's watching and sitting and stewing pause he's worried that people on

television with him and the fact that he decided to listen to a drunk giuliani doing this for date sglarks where did he put that on truth social? today wasn't bipartisan. these are republicans hard core mag, a. bill stepien is looking now to unseat liz cheney. your thoughts? from day, the star of these tartd, were going to be the reap chance who testified, republicans who gave depositions, republicans in their own records. >> this was a departmentic -- >> the big lie was also a big grist. how much do you think trump gristed out of his supporters

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ever. donald trump spread the big lie to cling to power and the presidency, but it was also a

grift, prague on the wallets of small dollar maga donors. according to the january 6th committee the trump campaign sent millions of e-mails to supporters about how they needed to step up and protect election integrity raising more than $250 million, and while they claimed that money was going to the official election defense fund, two trump campaign staffers testified that the fund did not actually exist. instead, most of the money went to trump's new superp. a c. and some of that money was funneled to the trump hotel collection. here's what congresswoman sew love friend who took center stage at today's hearing said about the big grift. >> we'll also show that the trump campaign used these false claims of election fraud to raise hundreds of millions of dollars from supporters who were told their donations were for the legal fight in the courts, but the truffle campaign didn't use the money for that. the big lie was also a big

rip-off. >> joining me now is charles coleman, msnbc legal analyst and a civil rights attorney and the president and ceo of media matters. thank you both for being here. i want to start with you, charles. let me play you a woman named amanda wit, senior executive council for the house select commit and she provided this clip where she described the money grift. >> the committee discovered that the save america act made contributions to several organizations including $1 million to mark meados charitable foundation and $11 million to a conservative organization which employs several former trump administration officials, $204,857 to the trump hotel collection, and over $5 million to event strategies, inc, the company that ran president trump's january 6th rally on the ellipse. >> they collected all of that money, chief of staff meadows

got some taste and some staffers got a job, they fund the ellipse rally. how is any of that legal? >> well, it's not. and the simple answer is it's important to understand that there are a variety of different audiences that the committee is talking to in terms of these hearings, and obviously no audience is less important than the department of justice. what they are doing here, and i'm speaking as a former prosecutor, is they are trying to give this -- the results of the hearings as much low hanging fruit to the doj as possible. they want to take away any potential defenses that might scare the doj off from a prosecution against trump. sometimes even though the headline is insurrection and even though the headline is the capitol riot, sometimes it's the low-hang fruit that you end up prosecuting someone on. capone was convicted of tax evasion. in this case it may be the low-hanging fruit of actual felonious fraud that we're seeing here on earth with

respect to the money grab, multi-million dollar money grab that the trump organization benefited from so they are pursuing multiple vaefs through the haefrgs what's being unearthed that they are handing over to the -- there was nefarious intemp and people stood to make a lot of money and it was very intentional. >> trump's entire presidency was a money-making grift. every time someone swiped at his hotel. he constantly made money off being president and some of the things he did was dangerous. did forment. sfurks. this is worse than scamming his supporters off build the wall. let me may a guy named al schmidt, the lone republican member of the philadelphia commission that was overseeing

the vote count in 2020. this is what he said today. >> ever at president tweeted at me by name, call me out the way that he did, the threats became much more specific, much more sk and included me by name, members of my family my name, their names and address, pic pictures of our home, just every bit of detail that you could imagine. that's what changed with that tweet. >> and those kinds of attacks were amplified by owl of right wing media, "noust on twitter. there's a whole -- that turned out to be not just violence on january 620, 21 but also violent threats against again who stood in trump's ability to stay in

office. >> keep in mind that the seeds of doubt in the election were sown effort before stop the steal. 6 the of donald trump's posts in 2020 were about the election stolen and almost all of those were before election. cat carding doubt often -- they were billing the foe daungs will and whether you're identifying a target like donald trump did in this. what you create is our knew needback -- in the only -- once you sort of build the muscle memory and for people who tame number, there were sill of 46 separate organizations and ent

days, many of which have were republican cans died. many all buys 1 on the election. either to high an amplifyies in office or operation allied that-ins information. charles coleman is how is any of this heel? it's a lot of ways it's not, no. >> what we've seen previously toll this administration and the. if you look back this, was a plausible deniability that i didn't know it was. so when they are sort of trying to hand over this panning am

offest to it dov, that this xin and anyone neshted with this. they really hammering home it. that thanks away the question of how intentional this was or was not? tax news is cull -- you do have a network that is named, named in thisp. >> there were a couple of days that fox news didn't challenge the results and on, after november 20, they spent the next self-weeks doing 774 seg about the election being stolen.

idea that joe biden was paying kick brac to people. they took every lie from the right well. january 6th would have been very different if fox news did not spend those two weeks actively promoting misinformation and flat out lies about the election being stolen hand legitimatizing at least for the audience the right wing. >> hand let's not forget an entire documentary produced by their biggest host lying about january 6th. thank you very much. senators hammer out a framework for a new bipartisan gun reform bill. what's in and what's out, and will it actually prevent more mass shootings? stay with us. t actually prevent mass shootings stay with us announcer: type 2 diabetes?

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across the country to push lawmakers to take action on gun violence in the wake of recent mass shootings in places like uvalde, texas and buffalo, new york. almost fittingly for a country with an average of a mass shooting a dlarks was even a moment of panic at the march in the nation's capital where a gun scare caused people to momentarily run for safety and over the weekend there were 12 more mass shootings across the u.s. however, there's news that this bipartisan group of senators have negotiated a framework of new gun legislation. it includes incentives for states to implement red flag laws, enhances background cheques on gun buyers under 21 years old, closes the boyfriend loophole on domestic violence and provides more funding for mental health services and school safety provisions. what's not in the framework, a ban on semiautomatic weapons or high capacity magazines, raising the age from 18 to 21 to buy an assault weapon and universal background check, all overwhelmingly popular ideas. the framework has already received the support of the ten

senate republicans needed to bypass any filibuster. it should not be surprising that none of them are facing voters this year. in fact, four are retiring. in other words, no republicans are taking political risk, no, no republicans are doing so to save your kids from gun violence. there was been some positive reaction from groups like every town for gun safety which is a positive suggests which suggests more is coming but it probably isn't. joining me is the press secretary for equality flor falah and a pulse nightclub shooting survivor in orlando which happened six years ago yesterday, and i know that anniversary is still raw for you, brandon, so thank you for being here, and i want to get your take as a survivor of a massacre, the thing we're trying to prevent. what do you make of this framework? >> well, it is a difficult day, but i appreciate you continuing to have this kfrmgs i think a few things can be true at the same time here. it is true that for the first

time in decades a sizable group of bipartisan u.s. senators have signal that had they might be open to doing something after the mass murder of innocent children. that is true, and it is thanks to advocates and activists who have relentlessly organized in their communities. you heard from david hogg there, and that they have assured politicians that they are not going anywhere. it's thanks to parents of gun violence victims who bravely bared their soul over and over again and thanks to survivors like my friends and others who have courageously shared the stories of worst days of their lives. those have been organizing and mobilizing are to thank that we have a framework to discuss at all, but it's also true that this framework is entirely insufficient and not even close to a finish line. forgive me if i take the assurances of republican politicians with a bit of a grain of salt, but i just want to see the receipts. i want to see a bill, and i want to see the yes votes to go along with that bill and also forgive

me because i am not a republican member of congress which means it's not my job to carry water for their proposals that fail to address a majority of what americans broadly support this. framework does not solve our swiss cheese approach to background cheques. it doesn't rage the age of purchase to 21. it doesn't implement a national red flag law. if this framework becomes law, it will save lives but it won't solve the crisis. i'm an advocate so it's my job first and foremost to fight for poll statehouse will make our lives better and safer and that's why i'm still here and still fighting for us to do much more than this framework. >> right. i think about the fact, that you know, as you said, none of the republicans who are involved in there are taking any risks and a framework -- we've seen frameworks before that never became legislation and that people bailed on when came down to actually voting, so as you said we need to seat proof is in the votes, but like some of the solutions they want are to do with schools, hardening schools and in some states giving

teachers access to having weapons in school. we had that just pass in ohio. you and i both know in my former home state and your home state of florida you just had a charter school in parkland -- the principal had guns in the parkland charter school, same town that the parkland massacre took place, left the guns around and thank god they weren't found by students but they could have been and there's no training really involved in the ohio law, so are we taking this seriously enough legislatively in your view? >> well, the answer is no, and we've none that for a long time. congress has for a very long time coasted from crisis to crisis. they have sort of waited us out, tell us it's too soon to talk about it and then proposing sort of an suffered solutions to the crisis that aren't going to do anything ant probably won't go anywhere waiting for the news cycle to move on to something else. arming teachers is a terrible idea and it's also an experiment that i'm just not interested in

testing on young chirp. we don't know that it would solve any of these crises. we do know it would make gun manufacturers extremely wealthy by pumping more guns into the system and i'll say this again. if we continue to double down on this idea that the only answer to the gun violence crisis in the country is to harden our environments, put more police officers on more street corners, more guns in more hallways and classrooms, then we've resigned ourselves to the fact that gun violence is unavoidable and that's simply not true. we can solve this crisis. we know what we have to do to get there. have the tools to do it. we're lacking political will power. >> one of the most powerful voices for gun reform in this country. brandon wolf, always appreciate you taking the time. really appreciate you. cheers: up next, karine jeanpierre joins me in her first live interview since becoming white house press secretary. do not miss it. g

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thank you. and it's so great to see you. >> we both have different hairstyles. >> since the last time we were together. i love the spring/summer do. >> i love yours as well. the january 6th hearings took place today and i'm quite sure that the white house was watching. what is is the administration's take on what should be done afterwards because obviously this is not -- you know, this is not a legal proceeding. this is really something that's going to perhaps result in ideas for changing the way our system is to make sure that it doesn't happen again. is there a white house official position on what should be done to stop this happening again? >> well, joy, let me just first say the president has been very clear of his support for this vital work of this bipartisan select committee on january 6th. he's said over and over again and we have said that day was one of the darkest day of our democracy. our democracy was attacked. our law enforcement officers were attacked, and so he thinks

it's really important to make sure that the american people remembers what happened and also i would reiterate what kevin mccarthy said a few days after that attack that we cannot speech this under the rug. as far as what happens next, that is up to the department of justice. as you know, joy, one of the things, one of the major issues that we saw during the last presidency, as you covered very closely and watched very closely, is how much the department of justice was politicized, and that is what is we saw from the last president. this is a president, president biden has opinion very clear about making sure that we give back the independence of the department of justice. that is one of the reasons he selected attorney general merrick garland because of his loyalty to the constitution and to the law, and so that is what is important here. we leave that to the department of justice.

>> but we know that one of the reasons that president biden said he ran for president was the charlottesville racist march and attack there, you know, and the violence that broke out there. we've just recently seen in the state of idaho a group of white nationalists arrest who had were i mean, this is pride month around the country. there is still an extreme threat of white nationalism, and white nationalist rhetoric, domestic terrorism, in the country. does the administration feel that the justice department has been proactive enough, and that enough is being done, including by the doj and by lawmakers to protect the country against this threat? >> so, joy, you know, he has complete confidence in merrick garland and the work that he's doing at the department of justice. again, it's an independent agency. and we have to leave that to continue to be independent. and you're right. we have seen an increase of

domestic terrorism, white supremacy in this country. it's been reported. we have heard that from the department of justice. and when the president, to your point, when the president decided to run, he talked about the soul of the nation. he wrote an article around charlottesville, and i know we talked about it many times on your show, which i love and miss, am joy. and those days, afterwards, we talked about how devastating that was he talked about how devastating it was to see what we saw, marching on the streets of charlottesville. so, we understand there's still a lot of work to do. we still have a long way to go. he has talked about that. and so, is gonna continue to fight the fight. but as it comes to the doj, they're independent, and we're going to leave it as that. we are not going to do, again, what the last president did, by politicizing it. >> i want to note just reporting there's reporting now that a lot of the violent

intent is shifting from the maga cause and the quote unquote stop the steal cost to attacks on lgbtq americans. that has become a fixation. so i know that something that is of concern around this country. but i want to talk about another concern. it kind of relates to also what we saw happened in buffalo, that mass shooting. these anti-women, sort of, you know, iterations that we're seeing, not just on the violent side, but on the legislative side, roe v. wade is about to fall. let me play for you with elizabeth warren said about what she like to see the administration to about that. >> it starts with making sure that there is more access to medication abortions. right now, there are no restrictions on the availability, that are not medically necessary, but politically necessary. okay, let's get rid of this. another part that we can make sure is that people who receive medicaid for their medical care get the full range of services that bylaw, are supposed to be available to them, including

the choice of provider and. that means, enough of these states dividing to play on parenthood, they can't operate within their borders. we want the administration to explore what can be done with federal probably within the states that are hostile. how about if the federal government looks into the possibility, can they have clinics there? >> legislative on the supreme court's tied, i met them. any support inside the white house to do any of the things you just heard? >> i don't have anything right now to preview or talk about, specifically, as senator warren just laid out. she is someone we truly respect here, and we worked closely on many issues this past year and a half. this is an issue, when it comes to women's right to choose, a woman's right to decide when she can start a family, it is an important issue to this white house. it's an important issue to this president. it's an important issue that the vice president. and we're taking this very seriously. we you know clearly, we all saw

the leaked document that came from scotus. and so, it's something that we are watching very closely. and the president has, as it relates to women's health care, and things that can be done, the president has hhs agency assets to look at different things that can be done. i can't speak to the specifics of what the senator laid out, but the president believes in codify roe v. wade. he has constantly, asked the congress to act. and he's gonna continue to speak about that. >> the supreme court decision is coming out, on not just abortion, but guns, religion, climate change. and we know that the wife of one supreme court justice clarence thomas was deeply, intimately involved in the insurrection. does the white house believe that the supreme court still has credibility? >> look, i can't speak to those reportings about supreme court

justice and their spouse. that is something that scotus, the supreme court justice, has to sort of speak to directly. that's something that i can't speak to from here. what i can say is that the president is going to continue to speak out and speak up, as it comes to roe v. wade. he's gonna continue to speak out, as it comes to making sure that we really deal with a public health epidemic, as we look at gun violence, which is a very, it's staring up our communities. it's staring up our schools. it's tearing up, you know, in the situation that happened in buffalo, the grocery store there, it's unbelievable, unfathomable to think about when people are doing things that we do every weekend, going to the grocery store. and so, these are the things that the president is making a priority. we have to remember one last thing is that the president has taken more executive action on dealing with gun violence and gun reforms, but any other president at this time of his presidency. and that shows you how mice how

much he's made this a priority -- >> we will have to have you back. karine jean-pierre, congratulations again on the new job. and happy pride, and great to see you. hope i'll see you soon. >> thank you, joy. appreciate you. hopefully i seen person x time. >> absolutely. don't go anywhere everybody. we'll be back in a moment with my colleagues rachel maddow, nicole wallace, chris hayes, lawrence o'donnell, ari melber, for a full team recap of today's dramatic generous expiring. stay with us. stay with us waxed. natural. sensitive.

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