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tonight on the "reid out." >> we're coming to take you out and pour you out by your hairs. >> the january 5th committee is connecting the dots. the guy you just heard making threats on january 6th is the same guy who appeared to be doing surveillance in the capitol the day before. during a highly questionable tour given by a republican congressman. plus, this week's primaries show that the beg lie is alive and well in the republican party. and a major threat to the next presidential election. and have you seen the jaw dropping video from the yellowstone extreme weather is likely changing the park forever. and we begin the reidout however with lingering questions what republican members may have
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played to the attempts to overturn the 2020 election. today the january 6th committee released new surveillance video it says it shows congressman barry loudermilk giving a tour to tunnel entrances at a time when it was still closed to the public because of covid. the hours-long tour was given on january 5th, the day before the insurrection. in a letter to loudermilk, the committee points out these so-called guests seemed very interesting in photographing unusual aspects, like stairways, hallways and security checkpoints, not your average tourist pho ops. the capitol police chief says he's reviewed and saw none of the actions are suspicious. pennsylvania congressman brendan boyle tweeted. this is the stairwell i take to my office. in my eight years here, i have
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never seen a tourist take a picture of it. he told nbc news the committee is pushing a false narrative that has already been put to bed. but according to committee, that same guy you saw on the tour taking photos in the hallways and stairwells participated in the rally the following day. while it appears he did not enter the capitol. he made a disturbing video threatening members of congress. >> there is no escape, pelosi, schumer, nadler. we're coming for you. we're coming in like white on rice for pelosi, nadler, schumer, even you, aoc. we're coming to take you out. we'll pull out by your hair. >> as for other things lawmakers
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may have done to overturn the election, we got a preview from liz cheney naj one other law maker of interest to the committee as it relates to donald trump's attempt to use the department of justice to help pull off 84 attempted coup. >> representative scott perry who was also involved in trying to get clark appointed as tomorrow has refused to testify here. as you will see, representative perry contacted the white house in the weeks after january 6th to seek a presidential pardon. multiple other republican congressmen also sought presidential pardons for their roles in attempting to overturn the 2020 election. >> why would anyone ask for a presidential pardon unless they knew they've done something criminal. who are the other members of congress that saute a pardon. the committee says those names will be made public as the hearings continue. so while congressmen like
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loudermilk and scott perry may not be the household names, they could be the most vulnerable as the investigation continues. an nyu analyst and myles taylor, co-founder of the renew america movement. myles taylor, i want to start with you on taking tours were taking pictures inside the capitol. what they were taking a picture of, i took the family with them, they wanted to see the little trains that take congressmen. so i took them to show them where the trolley was in the raven tunnel. >> reporter: why were pictures taken of the stairwell, around security? >> if you go to that stairwell, there is a golden eagle sconce on the wall. that's what he is taking a picture of. these are folks who have never
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been to washington, d.c. and they were here to visit their congressmen and they were excited. >> so why not speak to the committee? >> because the committee's never called me and asked me anything. >> we pulled that video again, myles, i ask you this question. because the video that this guy made did have stills in it. he cut it together using his iphone or whatever. i didn't see pictures of a wall sconce, an eagle. i didn't see picture of any kids. here's the video again. take a look. >> there is no escape, pelosi, schumer, nadler, we're coming for you. we're coming in like white on rice, for pelosi, nadler, schumer. even you, aoc. we're coming to take you out. and pull you out by your hair.
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>> nadler is named specifically. there is a still picture of jerry nadler's office door. then if you guys could see the little sign that was at the bottom of that picture of a group of congressmen, it said majority staff. so he got close enough to take pictures of that. that's what he took picture of. as someone who worked in the homeland security department what does that say to you? does that set off an alerts about this tour in. >> well, joy, i think you really pointed out the key fact here. forget the capitol. forget january 6th. forget politics. if this had been any other environment, it would have almost risen to the level or maybe it had for criminal referral. i worked for many years with national security and law enforcement. this is a clear threat toward real life characters. nancy pelosi is a real person. jerry nadler is a living person. these are human beings. he is saying he is coming for them to get them. it's highly threatening
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language. it's not something the committee is overreacting at all. i know barry loudermilk personally. i know scott perry personally. when i served as a staffer, i worked with them in fact very regularly. and at best i think that congressman loudermilk is being taken for a ride by the people he gave a tour to. at worst, potentially knows something he should share with the committee. i would urge him to be immensely skeptical about what happened here, evidence of just about anyone this constituent wasn't there for an innocent purpose to go see the train. this constituent was articulating a potentially violent threat against elect officials. that's serious. they should take it seriously. congressman loudermilk shouldn't wait for the committee to come to him and ask questions. she should be afirmtively going and sharing all the information he has with the committee. the fact that they released this video shows that the bipartisan select committee is taking this
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extremely seriously and that also means the justice department is taking this seriously, so the congressman should as well. >> you know, melissa, if you are giving tours especially during a time when the capitol is closed. so someone had to make a special request to get a capitol tour. you have to go to your congressman, ask for a tour. that means your staff at minimum knows who you are. they have your name, your contact information. they have to take i.d.s, et is the ra. one of them turns out to be somebody who then issues threats against specific members and takes pictures of their door and of the staff. so he knows something about the inside layout of the capitol and then the next day the capitol is stormed and every member of congress is running for their lives. if i worked in a bank and i worked in a beautiful sort of old time bank building and i had some people who asked me to give them a tour and i said sure and i gave them a tour and the next day the bank was robbed, i would feel compelled even out of self
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preservation to call the police and say, hey, i know who these people were. don't blame me. i didn't mean to give them a tour. you know the person you gave the tour to made threats. why should, to myles taylor's point, why should the committee have to come to him? shouldn't he have a yaer /* /* nid area -- owe fiduciary duty? >> i didn't know there was a more nefarious purpose, but it looks suspicious. i think i should tell you. that would be i think the thing that most individuals would do and i think it's really
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important that the select committee has decided to show this. because i think there are many audiences this plays. obviously to the court of public opinion. the public should know what was happening and there are these unusual episodes that preceded the attack on the capitol on january 6th. but more importantly, the justice department should know for that individual and who perhaps think of this in terms of premeditation given the threats he gave the next day. congress is hearing these under the auspice cease of the investigative and oversight authority and perhaps there need to be new protocols for things like congressional tours. these things have happened for years. there is always various procedures you have to go through. maybe some of the procedures need to be tightened up in certain sensitive areas need to be off limits to everyone. so there are a lot of different focuses that this hearing can serve. at the very least, i think
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someone that had this information should have been forthcoming. >> the majority staff, staff members running for their lives the next day. one of the things of this extraordinary washington post article, it talked about all the ways that trump tried to corrupt the justice department, put an environmental lawyer at the head of the doj, et cetera. there was another part where he talked about the fact he didn't want mike pence to be in the know, justice department, just issue a letter like he did with ukraine, let the members of congress i guess on his side, they'll take care of it. then after that after that sort of is shot down. he is told everybody will quit. he asked whether steve everythingle could provide what authority vice pence had when it came to opening the electoral college votes on january 6th. trump interjected he didn't want anybody attending the meeting about what to do on january 6th.
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pence is deliberately left out. now let's look at a picture of mike pence with his wife in his office after they were evacuated. she is closing the doors. i'm association that's his daughter. his wife is closing the curtains because they can see and hear per jonathan karl of abc, they could see and hear the insurrectionists outside and they were afraid. what do you make of this, the fact that it appears that everyone, including members of congress seeming to in on the scam, except the man who people were threatening to hang, the vice president of the united states? >> i think it tells you, joy, that this is so much worse than something like watergate. this is so much worse than watergate. this is a watershed moment for our democracy for basically the vice president of the united states was afraid for his life because of actions the president of the united states was taking. now, that's not you know myles
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taylor spitballing. we've seen reports now that pence's own staff the day before allegedly flagged for his secret service lead detail that they were concerned that what the president was doing was going to lead to violence against the vice president. now, fihelped oversee the u.s. service, not just the chief of staff. on the appropriations committee and authorizing committee in congress. guess what, i've never seen anything like this in the history of the secret service. we've never experienced anything like the vice president fleeing for his life because of something the president of the united states is doing. not at least in the modern era. so there is almost no historical parallel for what we are witnessing and again, that's what makes it so much more significant than any of these other episodes we've seen in the past. to your point about the justice department, that's what we will get into tomorrow with the select committee, they will drill down on what the justice department knew. that's where if there are any smoking guns in this.
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you see the way donald trump handled the justice department. you can look back to the beginning of the trump administration see him learning how to try to manipulate his justice department. he was often met with exactly what you said, there etc. to resign. at the end of the administration, trump had gone accustomed to saying i will fire people and put in people. >> the last question, we are going to see, melissa, testimony from the vice president's legal counsel with mike pence and retired judge michael luttig a former adviser to mike pence. he went to and said is any of this legal that i, mile, can change the election? you will know better than most people, i'm almost a complete super nerd. this is a luminary of conservative jurisprudence. this is a very conservative judge. what are you expecting to hear from him? what should we expect to hear when we hear him testify? >> you are exactly right.
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judge luttig is in the affirmative legal movement. he was a judge on the fourth circuit. he was widely -- contested to be in the running that chief justice john roberts holds. this is no fly by night conservative and someone that makes very clear that he was absolutely alarmed and indeed discouraged when he heard what the vice president was telling him to get advice to do. so he acted again out of conscience, out of love for country and the constitution and not about any kind of party affiliation. i think what we will see from his testimony tomorrow is exactly that threat, that this was a threat that so exceeded the scope of his own partisan leaning, this was a threat to democracy. a threat to democracy. a threat to the very constitution he swore an oath to. >> don't let anybody tell you this is some partisan attack on donald trump. this is ndi, no democrats
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involved. these are republicans who were fighting republicans in a contest over whether we were going to be a democracy or literally have our government overthrown. watch this as the great rachel mad dough would say, thank you very much. up next on the reidout, trump candidates had some wins and losses yesterday. the primary results show how deeply the deep lie is taking hold inside the party. the reidout continues after
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. the primary season continued in several states on tuesday, including nevada, where republicans who embraced the big lie emerged victorious. jim marchant who told nbc news he would not have certified the 2020 result is the republican nominee for secretary of state bringing him one step closer to being the top elected official in that crucial sping swing state. adam lacksalt won the prime aer to take on incumbent katherine cortez masso while in south carolina tom rice one of ten republicans in the house who voted to impeach trump in his role in the insurance lost making him the first pro impeachment republican to lose a primary against a trump-backed challenger. also in south clone, incumbent nancy mace who criticized trump won her primary against a
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trump-backed challenger narrowly dodging the purge by embracing trump for re-election. more in a minute then a victory four maya flores. joining me is msnbc political analyst and david pepper former chair of the ohio party and laboratories of autocracy. a book certainly timely. let's go back, circle back to south carolina for a minute. let me play nancy mace's the makeup. this is how she managed to hold her seat. take a look. >> hey, everyone, congresswoman nancy mace here. i went on trump tower today. ever since 2015 when president trump announced his run, i was one of his earliest supporters and worked for the campaign in 2016 and worked in several different state departments to help get him elected. >> donald trump tried to oust you from your republican party.
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what is your message to donald trump now? >> my message is the same to him with anyone else who is willing to work with me full stop. >> and now let's play tom rice. here a candidate who lost. this is him on election night saying he don't regret a thing. >> you can say whatever you want to. you know, i made my opinions very well known. absolutely, no, i did the right thing. i don't vote for the job. i don't vote for the man. i vote for the constitution. >> of course, by him he means trump. david pepper, do these two races say anything about the future of our country and whether democracy can hold? >> they're mixed.
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i respect what he said there is a bigger legacy in office he is trying to leave one to be proud of. i'd say bigger picture, of all the races last night, the one that should really worry us most is the canary in the coal mine is the secretary of state's race in nevada. you have all around this country election deniers, you know, the people who like jim marchant who won have heeded the five delegation, arizona, minnesota, michigan, however, they're the candidates running for secretary of state. they're also running for state houses, regardless of the federal ones, which are also important, these are folks who are mostly winning these primaries. you are looking in '24. they will write the rules of the election in '24 and will be the ones running the election. the people attacking democracy, the front line for them is states. in state houses, in secretary of state, that's where they're being aggressive, putting much more money than they ever have. that should be a real wake-up call going forward, all these
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state-level races that will shape the '24 election as much as on the federal level. >> to that very point, jim marchant is one of 23 election deniers who were running in the 2020 elections in 17 states across the country per an organization called states united action. so, that is a really good point. democrats tend to fix it a on the presidency. the republicans fixated on the states. they're doing quite well in doing that. >> that's exactly the point. joy, it's a lot like that zombie movie. you run after these zombie election demyer maga candidates. it's tough to pick them all off when they come at the same. it takes a few to get through in some of these critical states and you have democracy at the barrel of a gun that we are seeing right now. even in my home state of florida, you don't hear the secretary of state is a qanon
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supporter. he is appointed by ron desantis. this is the half of democracy we are seeing. candidly, the problem here i think still continues to come down to the justice department. until indictments start to come down on the perpetrators of criminal activity by elected office holders we are seeing. joy, this will be dismissed as political back and forth. i am seeing it in focus groups around the country. every day americans are saying well, if there was something serious, you'd see these people get arrest reasonable doubt or indicted. it's politics as usual in the mandz of many. it's becoming dangerous. right now elections cannot be a remedy to deal with criminality in the united states. that's what the rule of law and the justice department is for. >> we are in a situation where half of americans and republicans told a poll recently, a yahoo unit poll america will cease to be a democracy in the future. what's not clear is whether you are glad about that i think some
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people are not unhappy, not everyone is committed to the idea of this being a democracy. >> no, cpac wasn't hungry pe tear teel literally says democracy is in -- with freedom and is supporting all these candidates. these people are running to run elections who election deniers. once, not all republicans, but there is a chunk of people who literally are saying they don't want to see the results of our newer diverse democracy. i'll say, we have to have accountability through the doj. i completely agree for anyone who tried to undo the last election. but democrats have to start opening their eyes beyond the federal. the other side knows the key to democracy is shaping states. in state houses. until we know -- every democrat can tell you the swing senate races. right?
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>> yes. >> they need to know the secretary of state races, we are only two seats from winning the arizona state house, three from winning the michigan state house. the other side, the coke brothers and alec, they know this stuff like the back of their hand. all we do is get excited about a few senate races when they're pro democracy and states. we need accountability at the legal level. but we need to be much more satisfier politically and go to where democracy is most fiercely being attacked. which is in state after state after state. >> by the way, one person that doesn't believe is mike lee. he has a much tougher race. there are some people who do care in some states. let's talk really quickly. maya flores. this was a race in a tiny turnout, like fewer than 30,000 people voted. she flips the seat that had been traditionally democratic. 85% his spanic. the second-most hispanic congressional district in america. she picks it up. you can talk a little about
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this? democrats didn't even compete. she ran these really compelling personal ads after being born in mexico. her husband is a member of the border patrol. democrats didn't even play. there were 711,000 people in that district. only 29,000 voted. this is a problem, right? >> let me say this is an astro turf barrage victory by the republicans. they threw 8 or 9 million to capture this seat. joy, the democrats are going to regain this seat in the november election. there is no doubt about it. now, in the short term, it's good for the republicans in the sense they'll be able to say look at what we've done. we've elected the first america's can-born member of congress it's a short lie. democrats should not go into a panic and recognize the broader picture. it's about holding onto the house and the senate. i do believe based on the numbers for november with ohio turnout, this seat will reverse back to the democrats.
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>> don't wet the bed. turn out the vote. especially in state races, not just federal and presidential. thank you both very much. coming up next, the increasingly dark situation east of ukraine. what is white house is doing about that and brittney griner and others held prisoner by russia. stay with us. zbl
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the situation on the battlefield
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in ukraine becomes dire. president biden announced today that the u.s. will be giving an additional $1 billion in aid to the country. this comes as putin's attacks are relentless. many are worried it will only get worse. one of his top advisers posted that it won't exist in a few years and putin is referring to himself as the czar, peter the great, issuing alarm bells. they are preparing no ar long-term support and more weapons. officials are clearly concerned that both american public interest and the conflict in european unity might wane. european poll shows a third favor ending the conflict as soon as possible afternoon if you crane has to concede territory which comes as french president macron says they will eventual will i have to negotiate with russia. he convened in brussels,
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secretary lloyd austin stressed a pivotal moment to support ukraine as russia has been bearing down, particularly in the city of severe donetsk. nbc has the latest from you crane. ely. >> reporter: hi, joy, you know it's the industrial hotline of ukraine and the russians are burning it to the ground. the focal point in the last several weeks have been in the eastern region and they have been pounding at severe donetsk. the capitol of the luhansk area. at the moment it seems to be on the russian's side. they are pounding that place with artillery and rocks and they've pushed the ukrainians into a very small popular control. there are a lot of civilians now hiding in the bunker of this huge capital plant in that city. the russians gave them an ultimatum, surrender by 8:30 this morning, they will give them safe passage into ukrainian
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territory. they didn't do that, just likem. that aid package president biden plenld $8 billion can't come soon enough. the ukrainians say that's barely enough to defend themselves than launch an offensive against the russians. in the coming days or weeks, we will see a bloody battle there. it's so pivotal. if the russians get severe donetsk, they're going to pretty much control the eastern front. >> thank you. joining me now is a former u.s. ambassador to ukraine william taylor, now vice president for russia and europe at the u.s. institute for peace. thank you for being here. i am worried now while the world has been looking away for good reason, you know, gun massacres and you know all the rest that's happened in elections and everything that's happened in uvalde, et cetera. it feels like ukraine, which felt like it was winning might
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not be. is that an accurate assessment? how worried should we be? >> joy, you are certainly right. we need to maintain support and other things pull at that tension, just exactly as you have described. it is no less important now than it was two months ago ukrainians to win. ukrainiansed into to be able to push back on the russians, hold off the russians, greatly outnumbered. the russians have a lot more equipment, ammunition. the ukrainians have a lot more spirit, more drive, higher morale. so it's still there. still a battle. still a slugfest going back and forth either way. >> we now know the state department is confirming that, you know, they've discouraged americans from going over there. they are now aware of unconfirmed reports two u.s.
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citizens captured in ukraine. the u.s. is monitoring the situation and are in contact with ukrainian authorities. this just ratchets things up. we know brittany griener is a captive there. there is another american a captive there. what does this do to the situation with americans potentially captured? >> joy, you are exactly right. americans should not be traveling into ukraine. it's dangerous. it's dangerous just to be there in a war zone, in particular, in that part of ukraine. it's also dangerous being an american there, the relations with the russians as you've just described, it's not just the ukrainian issue. there are other issues, they're holding americans. they're holding russians they're cracking down on people trying to speak their mind. so it is not a good time to be traveling to ukraine, obviously not trying to travel. >> officer navalny and
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kara-murza, what does it say about putin's state of mind, the fact that he is holding vladmir kara-murza and brittney griner, speaking of himself as if he is a czar, stealing the food resources, the agricultural resources of ukraine, sort of looting it. he appears less and less stable to be charitable. what does that do to our calculations about how to deal with him? >> we have to be tough, joy. we have to be tough. this is a man who thinks of himself as a great russian leader. he compares himself to peter the great, who invaded nation's neighboring them, in order to take back nations, take back property, territory, land, that he says slafs own, not just russians, slavs. so this is a threat to all of his neighbors. it's obviously a big threat to ukraine. but for him to be steaming grain, stealing food from ukraine, this goes back this
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reminds ukrainians of the 4 million ukrainians that were starved to death by joseph stalin. so this is a bad precedent. >> the other issue is the you know the stick-to-ittiveness of europe, whether or not they have the temperament, oil prices through the roof across the world and in europe especially, more so than here. is there a concern that the european population and the american population will grow wary and weaken their support of ukraine because of just the pure economic need and necessity? >> there is, of course, that concern and that just encourages us all to focus on this issue to remind ourselves what's at stake here. what's at stake here is the security of europe. what's at stake here is a democracy fighting an autocracy. what's at stake is freedom that we care about. that's important. yes. all the things that you mentioned are going to pull away
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from that. we need to show leadership and so far we have. and the europeans are stock exchangeing with us. it's hard. it will get harder. we have to stick with it. >> indeed, it's hard to fight hitler and the world stuck together and did that, too. this man can be defeated as well, ambassador taylor, thank you for being here. up next on the reidout, why your gas prices are so painfully high? the news president biden and the fed chair are taking to get inflation under control. stay with us.
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restored. they said it's an aging infrastructure. a problem they faced before. hey, greg abbott f. all of that doesn't convince people a climate crisis is here. take a look at the apocalyptic scene at yellowstone national park in montana. it's facing rock slides and extremely hazardous conditions. the floods washed out bridges and roads and blocked out access to gardner, montana, the river swallowed a house and made drinking water unsafe in some areas. this popular, beautiful national park is not only indefinitely closed, but it's now forever changed. >> the landscape literally and figuratively has changed dramatically in the last 36 hours. a little bit ironic this landscape was created by violent geologic events and it's not very happy when it happens well when we are all settled on it.
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average for gas is roughly $5 a gallon, which takes a significant chunk out of your wallet if you drive. but this is not solely an american phenomenon. gas prices are high around the globe. people in hong kong are paying $10 a gallon. in norway and denmark, they are paying more than $9 a gallon. well, now there are a number of factors, of course, that are causing these soaring prices in the united states. first, prices have been high since december. second, russia's invasion of ukraine and the resulting sanctions. thirdly, u.s. oil production has been slow and has been down
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since 2019. finally, what are we driving? that means higher demand for gas. as we struggle, some of the oil giants reported record profits in the first quarter. shell, 9.1 billion. bp, 6.2 billion. exxon, 5.5 billion. the people running these companies are also raking in the big bucks. according to the guardian, 28 major oil and gas companies such a shell, exxon, bp and marathon petroleum gave out $394 million in total to their chief executives last year. this morning, president biden sent a letter to the oil companies, demanding that they increase production, and if they don't, he would use all reasonable and appropriate federal government tools and emergency authorities to increase refinery capacity and output in the near term. bloomberg is reporting that democratic senator ron wyden of oregon is crafting a plan that would hit oil companies with a new search ex if their profit margin is higher than 10%. earlier today, the federal
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reserve raised interest rates by three quarters of a point in an attempt to tame inflation. with me now is lindsey owens, executive director of the groundwork collaborative. thank you for being here, is owens. i know we were having some connection issues, so i know you may be on the phone. let's start with ron wyden. the plan, it would have to be -- what's the chance for us here tex? let's start in a certain x, in a theoretical world, which i don't think it can pass -- >> i think moving forward with an excess profit tax or a windfall profit tax like senator wyden has proposed is a really smart move. we saw the united kingdom move forward with one. these windfall profits, these really exorbitant profits that the big oil companies and the refineries have been making since the war in ukraine -- we are going to taxes at a higher level. we are going to say, look, you might want to profiteer, but it's going to be a lot less
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lucrative because we are going to ship those winnings back to the country [inaudible] and then you can deal with the revenue from a windfall profit tax -- and this is really important -- you can take it and ship it back to consumers as, effectively, rebates and help them cover those rising costs. >> if there was a republican president, republicans might be willing to do that. but if you really think they are going to be willing to do that with joe biden in the white house, when they can run -- let's move on to the next thing. president biden has gone really hard. and democrats have, against these oil companies, who truly are profit taking. here is back in april. democrats did hold a hearing on price gouging and ceos denied any responsibility. here's how that looked. y reour shareholders expect us o operate in a way that delivers a return on capital invested while providing additional value in the form of cash returns. >> no single company set the price of oil or gasoline. >> shell is not set or control the price that consumers pay.
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>> you are a global ceo, bernard loony, recently stated, and i quote -- that bp is literally -- he says, literally, a cash machine when oil prices are at this level. >> gas prices need to go down and while the rest of america is trying to make this happen, you all are trying to increase record profits. >> prices don't have to be this high. you all can make decisions today that will help our constituents tomorrow. >> oil companies are a cash machine when oil prices are at this level. that's true. what percentage of the problem are these ceos? these companies that are profit taking at the expense of the consumer? >> yeah, i think the real issue here is that companies are not willing to lift a finger to bring more production on line. the reason for that is, it cost
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money to refine more oil. it cost money to get refineries up online. it costs money to produce more oil. they are not introduced interested in spending that money if they can sit back, kick their feet up and just print money, profiting off the shortages we are seeing, because of the war in ukraine. and so what we have got our companies with no incentive to bring more oil online, no terest in investing in additional infrastructure and instead, just really enjoying these really eye-popping profits in this moment. so, it's a real pickle for the biden administration. and the president, he tried to address this head on today by sending a letter to all of the big refinery ceos, [inaudible] turned the crude oil into gas. and he said, it worked the last time that crude oil was selling at $120 a barrel in march. gas prices were about 75 cents lower and diesel prices were about 90 cents lower. so, the thing that explains that 75 cent increase in that
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90 cent increase is these refinery margins. and he is pleading with the refineries to bring more capacity online and stop prioritizing these tribal margins that we are seeing since the war in ukraine. and instead, build out more capacity to meet demand. >> is there a way -- because, people tend to blame president biden, like he is somehow making gas prices i. is there some way he can make them do it? is there some executive power he has to force more production or to force them to stop eating up all the profits and stop gouging the public? >> yeah, i think the -- are relatively limited. but he has the [inaudible] option, right, with his letter. he also has the gpa, the defense production act, to bring oil online. he has the strategic petroleum reserve. he is doing some things that need to be done here. but refineries are going to have to play along. >> they are going to have to --
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and if they don't? how much higher could they go? with prices? >> yeah, i certainly don't want to make anymore predictions, but i think we are at a really critical and dangerous period, where we have got to take the energy increases we are seeing seriously, because it could get [inaudible] out of control. >> indeed. lindsay owns, thanks so, much that's tonight's readout, along with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight on all in -- >> what you witnessed is what a coordinated and planned effort would look like. >> a blueprint for the attack on the capitol -- >> what you want to call? them give me a name, give me a name? >> [inaudible] white supremacist -- >> proud boys? stand back and stand by -- >> tonight, the new documents from the proud boys detailing their plan for january 6th. then -- >> we are coming in like white on rice, for pelosi, nadler

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