good morning. you're watching "chris jansing reports" live from new york city. and just about a half an hour from where i'm standing, investors on wall street are watching as the market crumbles. the dow, take a look at these numbers, off more than 800 points right now. we are teetering on the edge of a bear market. it's at its lowest level in more than a year after the fed announced the biggest rate hike in almost 30 years. what will it mean for you? but we have a start in washington, where the third january 6th committee public hearing is just a few hours away. today, the spotlight is on the danger former vice president mike pence faced that day. and the pressure campaign to convince him to overturn the election results. this morning, nbc news has obtained a clip of the interview with pence's chief of staff who detailed the weeks long pressure

before the 6th. pence pushing back every time. >> was it your impression that the vice president had directly conveyed his position on these issues to the president, not just to the world through a dear colleague letter, but directly to president trump? >> many times. >> and he had been consistent in conveying his position to the president? >> very consistent. >> and then the new memos show ing pence's legal and political advisers spending weeks whether pence could block or delay the electoral vote count. their conclusion -- doing that would break multiple laws. the author of that second memo, former counsel to the vice president, greg jacob, will testify today. so will federal judge jay michael ludig, who rejected a theory by trump adviser john'sman that pence could

unilaterally reject lectors. and if he tried any way, the "new york times" reports that emails from eastman predicted a "heated fight in the supreme court." much more on that, and the connection to justice thomas' wife later in the program. but where did all of this lead mike pence on january 6th? these pictures provide some answers. during trump's second impeachment trial, they show pence hustled out of the capitol, while rioters chanted for him to be hanged. former president trump, the man pence had been loyal to for well over four years, saying "maybe our supporters have the right idea. mike pence deserves it." in a clip released by the committee on wednesday, we hear a man who was taking pictures of security checkpoints inside the capitol on january 6th, threatening the lawmakers in that building the very next day. >> we're coming in like white on

rice for pelosi, nadler, schumer, even you, aoc! we're coming to take you out! >> i want to bring in nbc contributors. jim, i wonder if that last video doesn't just get to the heart of what this committee is trying to show to the american people. democracy was under attack on january 6th. and by the way, so were, in a very real way, the people who have leadership roles in that democracy. >> you're exactly right. i mean, to have people say they're going to hang mike pence, say they're going to go after aoc and drag her by her

hair, those are physical threats. they were trying to overthrow the government of the united states of america. this is an absolute imperative, the committee makes this case that our democracy was under real threats. so we have learned from this and have real repercussions. the committee is highlighting these things and continuing to remind people that our democracy is fragile. it's incredibly fragile from moments like this and we have to learn from it and grow from it and heal our country. >> charles, the committee is suggesting that congressman loudermilk is complicit, because he gave this man a day before. but he says he didn't know that. do we need to see proof of that? >> i do think we would need to see some sort of connection to pursue anything of substance against the congressman. however, there's a broader message that needs to be

undertoday. republicans and politicians cannot continue to play this trick bag which they invest and double down and engage rhetoric for the purposes of fund-raising and energizing their vote, that incites violence or hey dread and vitriol against their political enemies. then when something does happen, sort of wash their hands of things. when that happens, what they're trying to do is absolve themselves from the actions that put their colleagues in danger. so even if nothing can be pursued of substance against him, there has to be a larger conversation about the sort of like, i'm going to hit you and then act like i did not do anything, when i know you're going to respond or i know there's going to be repercussions around my actions that congress people and different legislators continue to engage in, in a very polarized, political space. >> allie, tell us what we're going to see and hear today. >> that's going to be the entire

focus today. and i'm so glad that you pointed out that we have seen some of the images we are going to see today, the harrowing moments of the former vice president being shuttled out of the house chamber, when they thought it was too unsafe for him there. the committee will highlight just how dangerous january 6th was for the former vice president. but they're also tasked at this point with putting more meat on the bone. despite the fact that this is one of the key pieces of trump's second impeachment, it's a moment to show what more they have learned over the intervening year and a half, including things that will have light shed on by greg jacob, who was with the former vice president on january 6th. and then from his former chief of staff marschwart. the tape shows and tells the

committee that pence told trump repeatedly that he was rejecting the idea that he had the ability to cast out the election results and effectively overturn the election. but i think that this hearing specifically does present the pressure and the challenge for the committee. both in terms of showing what's new here on something that we knew already, the idea that pence was in danger. they're now tasked with showcasing something new here for the american public. and then there's what congressman jamie raskin said this morning, what happens when new information comes out? listen. >> new evidence is breaking every single day now. you know, suddenly a lot of people want to tell the truth and try to distance themselves from this outrageous plan to overthrow the 2020 presidential election. >> reporter: so look, raskin speaking to the fact that the committee clearly still fact finding. reporters still doing their

work. as much as they're setting the narrative right now, their pen is still on the paper of writing that narrative, as all of this new information comes out, chris. >> we know the goal of these hear sgs to show this was this multilayered conscious effort to overturn the election. this seems to be the day where that message gets driven home or some of the pieces start to come together in a different way. you got a copy of the memo from pence's counsel, greg jacob, whi he says john eastman acknowledges that his proposal violates several provisions of statutory law. talk about how that provides background for today's hearing. >> this memo appears to have been written for a morning meeting on january 6th, that pence had with his team. in the 48 hours before the electoral college certification, his lawyering were scrambling to present as much information to him as possible in a clear way

that he would be able to share with others. so he would be able to explain to the american public why he was doing what he was doing. remember these legal issues have never really been hot topics before, because nothing like this has ever happened. so greg jacob and the other folks working directly under pence were processing complex, legal and historical precedence, and trying to package them in a way that would make sense to people who were major law nerds. this memo is the product of that work, and it very much lays out in a final case that greg jacob and other folks in the vice president's legal team made against john eastman's argument that pence, of course, should try to overturn the election results by sending these electors back to the state. there's perhaps a cherry on top to this memo. greg jacob says first, it would be illegal as eastman concedes.

it would be unconstitutional. he also says even if pence were to play ball with eastman's proposal, it wouldn't have worked. because the judiciary wasn't on board with that. the state legislatures that -- they weren't even on board with it at that point in the process. so what greg jacob says is all this would have done is pitted mike pence against the rest of the country, setting off a crazy stand-up with no guarantee whatsoever of success. you can see how it's an easy decision on pence's part not to play ball, even though there were arguments made on behalf of president trump himself. >> i want to read the way you wrote it. because i have a question about it, betsy. you wrote, if the vice president implemented professor eastman's proposal, he would likely lose in court. in a best case scenario, the vice president would find himself in an isolated standoff against both houses of congress,

as well as most or all of the applicable state legislatures with no neutral arbiter available to break the impasse. that almost sounds like the deaf -- definition of a constitutional crisis. >> no question. courts don't like getting involved in political issues. to the greatest extent possible, they do not want to come in, these judges don't want to be referees on the outcomes of elections. so what jacob is saying, if the courts magically changed their time to bail out eastman and trump, you would have this standoff. the vice president on an island by himself with the president facing down state legislatures and congress. it would have been a crazy, unprecedented, unsustainable legal fight. it wasn't something that made sense. it wasn't something that was rational. that's the case that greg jacob was making. we expect him to flesh that out in this hearing later today.

>> jim, i think this hearing puts a spotlight on people that the average american doesn't hear much about. john eastman, even mark schwart, who were driving the decision making here. as someone who knows about internal debates inside a white house, how do you read what unfolded inside the trump administration in those weeks? >> chaos. just unbelievable fighting between the president and the vice president about serious constitutional issues. and to the earlier point, one of the things cited today is judge ludig, who is a hero of the american conservative movement. he was absolutely opposed to this. helped draft this memo. we were worried he would be named to the supreme court. and i spent a year going after him because he's such a conservative. but he too helped fight this eastman idea. in the middle of this, you have a president who was unhinged, talking about hanging his

sitting vice president. we have just never seen these kind of moments in american government. it's unprecedented. i can promise you, the white house i worked in was not that chaotic. >> it's going to be interesting, a year from now, to see how mike pence defending the constitution plays to folks out there in the electorate. >> he's clearly thinking about running for president of the united states. the question is, is there any appetite for people who stood up and said this was the wrong thing to do? liz cheney is another one. she currently trails in her primary 28 points in the last polls, because she did the right thing. the question is, can we be sensible in the modern republican party and not pay a price for it? that's what we are going to find out the next elections. >> i think paying a price also works, obviously, charles, in the legal sense. a lot of people are asking is there legal culpability for the former president. what are you looking for to

learn today? whether it is a criminal case potentially against the former president himself, people in his inner circle. what do we need to hear today? >> well, the committee continues to isolate the actual intentional acts of the president and many people close to him during this time. so what i'm expecting is they're going to continue to go down that path. they're going to be taking away any potential defenses that might come up by his legal team, were the doj to take this forward and prosecute. the other thing i'm going to be looking for, chris, is there's more than one way to skin a cat. when you saw the last hearings, there was this notion of the trump administration churning the big lie into this cash cow to grip the american public. that's a whole other level of corruption and fraud, and potential charges that don't have anything to do necessarily with the violence that we saw take place on january 6th. the significance of that is that now they have given the department of justice multiple

avs through which they can potentially prosecute and look to convict president trump of a number of different things. so it would not surprise me to see them try to give the doj even more avs to go after donald trump in different ways. so i'm going to be looking for all of those things, as well as a continuation of trying to isolate the intentional acts directly through president trump in a way that establishes criminal culpability. >> thanks to all of you. betsy, you're going to stick around. as these hearings delve deeper into january 6th, more of the people at the capitol that day are paying the price. a federal judge appointed by donald trump convicted a man who carried a confederate flag into the capitol. convicted of felony obstruction of an official proceeding. prosecutors said they ran through police lines and they were among the first team to enter the capitol through a shattered window. at last count, 865 people have

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almost two hours into trading this morning, and the dow is down. now 729 points, on the heels of the fed announcing that interest rate hike, three quarters of a percent, the highest jump since 1994. that means higher mortgage rates, bigger credit car payments, more expensive car loans. many already feeling the pain are wondering when will it end? >> we're already spending like $300, $400 extra a month than what we used to before. it's overwhelming. like how much worse is it going to get? >> cnbc's christina is at the nasdaq for us and joined by josh. so christina, what is your read on why this rate increase isn't being greeted well on wall street?

>> it's because of the tone that the federal reserve and our central bank is setting right now. this is no longer a one-off. the fed said they're going to get aggressive because inflation is so high. we have inflation numbers just last friday, levels that we haven't seen since 1981. so you had the fed chair yesterday said they are willing to hike again, just in another month or so. that's concerning for markets. if interest rates keep climbing, debt will be more expensive, especially for corporations that are high growth, like technology companies. the nasdaq, the worst performer for that reason alone. there is concern that the volatility is going to continue, because we have had such easy monetary policy for so long. this is something that a lot of people in the market, myself included, those that are millennials, have never seen such a downdownturn. >> mortgages, credit cards,

loans, what does it mean? and concerns that people have just about spending money? >> that's sort of the point of the interest rate increases. we have this inflation. there's too much money in the economy because of all of the payments made in the covid relief packages. that's part of why we have had this inflation, until the reports in the last few weeks, you saw people going out and continuing to spend in spite of higher prices. so higher interest rates, it's of 6% in a 30-year mortgage. similarly, the car sales have been cooling off somewhat because it pushes up the cost of a car loan. that's unpleasant at the household level, but that's the objective that the fed is pursuing here. if you're going to have reduced inflation, you need reduced consumer enthusiasm.

that's working through the interest rate channel and because it affects the stock market, one thing that happens is, people look at their retirement account balances and say, that's a lot lower than it was a few months ago, maybe i won't take that vacation. it's a channel to get cooling on inflation. >> let's talk about the folks that are close to retirement or maybe even in retirement. this is the kind of thing that keeps you up at night, right? and we always hear, hang tight, the market always comes back. but if you need to be living off of your savings right now, or you're close to having to live off your savings, this is not good. >> no, unfortunately not. at cnbc, we have a survey that goes out called the millionaire survey. according to the ones we polled, they believe we are headed for a loss worse in the next one to two years with inflation and possibly a recession.

so for those that are nearing retirement, yes, it is concerning. you have to think maybe i should be rebalancing my portfolio. i know home sales are cooling, so consider selling your home right now. consider having more cash on the sidelines. don't pay attention to the headlines that markets are selling off today. and then maybe consider securing that job as the labor market starts to cool. we're seeing it ever so slightly in the technology world as people are laying off employees. so could be very volatile for the next 6 to 12 months. >> and 6 to 12 months, josh, puts us squarely in decision time for folks who think they want to run for president. >> absolutely. and i think as joe biden and democrats look at this, inflation is the number one political problem. at this point, inflation is still going to be a terrible

problem by the time the midterm elections roll around. i don't think there's any hope of having material improvement by then. they need to focus on material improvement for 2024. we still have this moratorium on student loan debt repayment, which is equivalent to $60 billion fiscal stimulus. all the other covid stimulus is over, for good reason. the pandemic is over, and we are no longer -- the economy is overstimulated, so the administration needs to deal with that. and there are other steps that biden can take to reduce inflation. he could lift some of the tariffs. they're not issuing all the immigration visas that they could issue that's part of the problem in the labor markets. it's hard to hire workers. that's something that would take pressure off of inflation. joe biden put out a letter to oil refineries saying what can

we do to put more capacity online. a letter came back from exxon saying please waive the jones act. and approve more pipelines, approve more oil leases. that's not going to get more gas out in the next six months, but some of that could affects for the 2024 election. if i were biden, i would look at what levers do i have to get this inflation coming down in 2023, like the fed is forecasting it will. that's what he needs to do if he wants to be re-elected. >> thank you both. meantime, millions of americans now under extreme heat advisories. we're seeing historic flooding, tornadoes, power outages from the midwest to the great plains. we'll tell you all about that, plus, kevin spacey in a british courtroom facing accusations of sexual assault. what happens next for the academy award winning actor? you're watching "chris jansing

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extreme weather across the u.s. in wisconsin, several tornadoes knocked over powerlines and ripped roofs off buildings. in montana, massive flooding forced the gofr author to declare a state of emergency. parks supervisors say it's too early to fully assess the damage or to know when they'll reopen. in kansas, twisters touched down as temperatures mixed with storms. and in ohio, crews are rushing to restore power to thousands of people after severe storms knocked them out. listen to climate scientist zeke housefather. >> so you can think of climate like steroids for weather. it's climate change that is making these extreme events and extreme heat events much more likely. >> morgan chesky is live in texas. texas is in the middle of a punishing heat wave. i see you're in front of a fire

truck. i would not have to fight a fire in these temperatures. >> reporter: yeah, hi, chris. you're right. firefighters here really on the frontlines of seeing the impact of this heat wave. we had a chance to speak with some of them. they say when they compared from may to mid june, from this year to last year, they have responded to triple the number of heat-related hauls. that shows the impact this heat is already having as we enter this summer, summertime with records already being broken. not just here in texas but across the country. i should point out, it's not just the heat proving to be such a big problem. severe weather up north proving to be a significant issue. we know there were multiple tornadoes reported overnight in wisconsin, and severe weather in michigan caused avid manufacturing, that company behind the production of formula, to postpone some activity there while that severe weather moved through. so multiple impacts in multiple areas. meantime, you take that heat and

combine it with the humidity. in northern florida, that temperature could feel as hot as 110 degrees today. that is why we are seeing heat alerts impacting about 62 million americans from florida to the midwest. officials encouraging everyone to be aware about your exposure to the sun, to the heat and humidity. because if you look annually, chris, there are about 600 people who die from extreme heat in the united states every year. the sad part is the majority of those deaths are preventable. >> always a good reminder, if you know folks that don't have air conditioning, the heat is extreme, check in on them. morgan, thank you for being out for us. also this morning, a facial recognize, making a rare public appearance in a london court. our cameras captured kevin spacey. charges include four counts of sexual assault against three

men, all related to incidents that span from 2005 to 2013. spacey says he's confident he can prove his innocence. his attorney telling the court today "he strenuously denies those allegations." nbc's matt bradley has the latest. i know there are no cameras inside the courtroom, but what do we know about what did happen inside? >> reporter: yeah, chris. even by the standards of like a pretrial hearing, this was very short and very perfunctory. kevin spacey walked into the court, gave his name, confirmed his name and address. the charges were read out, but he did not plead, he did not say whether he was not guilty or guilty. that's something that will go to another court. you mentioned four charges by three men against this famous actor. there's actually a fifth charge, and that is that he caused a man to engage in penetrating sexual activity without his concept.

-- consent that. is the most serious charge and why this is being moved to a crown court. almost all criminal cases start here at magistrate court where is they've seen by judges -- or adjudicated by judges of the peace rather than judges. but this one in the crown court means it's a more serious charge. it carries a penalty of far more than ten years. this charge i mentioned could be as much as life in prison for kevin spacey, if he's convicted. but what also is important is that he was granted unconditional bail that. means the court believes and has confidence he will show up in four weeks to that other crown court down the street from where i am now. the reason why they believe that is partly because he showed up today. that is what is so important today, kevin spacey didn't wait to be arrested in the united states to go through the whole extradition procedure.

his lawyers told the court, he was charged on monday, he will fly to the uk, cross an ocean, and face the charges on his own in person. and that's yet sounds like, that's why the judge decided to give him unconditional bail. he can travel and go back to the states before he has to come back to court here in four weeks. that's because as the defense attorney said, all of his work and family are in the states. and he's complied with the court orders so far. chris? >> matt bradley, thank you so much for that. still to come here, an update, many parents will be ecstatic to hear. we are one step closer to vaccines for kids younger than 5. and the shots will be on the way soon. unless you live in florida. why they're the outlier among all 50 states, next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. nly on mc no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's...

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children may be breathing a sigh of relief. an fda panel voted wednesday to recommend both the moderna and pfizer vaccines for little kids. that's the only group still ineligible for the shot. moderna's shot is for kids ages 6 months to 5 years. pfizer's for kids up to 4 years old. there are still a few more rounds of review, and then the cdc director has to sign off. but that should all happen by tuesday. and we could start seeing shots in arms by the middle of the week. in most places that is. but not likely florida. that is the only state that has not put in an order with the federal court for vaccines for kids under 5. nbc's shannon pettypiece joins me now with more on this. so shannon, what reason has the florida department of health given for not ordering any vaccines? >> reporter: well, they're saying that they're not recommending vaccines for children under 5, and that's despite the recommendations we mentioned this week from this panel of fda advisers, and in

anticipated recommendation coming from the cdc. they say they -- the state health department and the governor who made these comments a few moments ago said they don't believe the potential risks outweigh the benefit. the governor said that there's -- in his words, practically zero risk in this age group, even though the fda pointed out there's more than 400 kids in the age group who died from covid. and that they don't want to be involved in the federal efforts to get this vaccine to the youngest kids. desantis said parents can still get the vaccine, but they will have to be ordered directly from a doctor or hospital. the state is not going to be involved in distributing them, which has been the case in every state and in the past in florida, where the federal government, who is the main buyer of vaccines, the only buyer of vaccines in the u.s., gets the vooe vaccines and allo them to the states.

and the states decide two should get them. florida saying they are not participating in that process at all. they will not be helping doctor's offices and states get these vaccines. if they want those, they'll have to order them directly. because the state does not believe these youngest children should get the vaccine. >> shannon, thank you for that update. with the january 6th hearings about to reconvene in a little more than an hour, we're getting brand new reporting right now from capitol hill. what the chairman of the january 6th committee just said about talking to jenny thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. we've got that after the break. k what drives you? what do you want to leave behind? what do you want to give back? what do you want to be remembered for? that's your why. it's your purpose, and we will work with you every step of the way to achieve it.

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to overturn the election may have been more extensive than previously known. my panel is back with me. aly, what did we just learn in the past few minutes? >> the chairman of this committee, leaving us some bread crumbs in light of this new news about her having emails between herself and john eastman. eastman is a name we'll hear a lot today as the committy details the pressure campaign on former vanderbilt mike pence. but thompson saying, we think it's time to invite her to talk to the committee. he declined to say when that some time would be, but of course, he makes reference to the fact that this is due to information that the committee has come upon. again, it's a trail of bread crumbs, because it's quite vague. this is the challenge of the

committee, as we were talking about at the beginning of the hour. there is still more fact finding being done on the part of the committee. they have referenced the fact that they have people continually coming forward. this was always going to be the parallel track process for the committee committee that wanted to start publically laying out its narrative while also still leaving no stone unturned and continuing to follow the facts where they lead them as it pertains to ginni thomas, this could be a new escalation. it's not just thompson saying this. liz cheney agrees that ginni thomas should come in and talk to the committee. >> barbara, give me your thought process. this just broke, but what do you think the committee might do here? what would you advise them to do? do you talk to her while hearings are going on as you try to build this case? what do they need to know or what kind of information do they

have to have to call her in the next couple of weeks? >> it seems apparent that we have information that she was in communication with john eastman. we don't know what the content of the email messages were. based on the things we know, we know he was at the tip of the speer on this plan this thwart the election results. at the least, they need to examine the emails. the first step is to take her deposition behind closed doors. we don't know what she's going to say. everyone has the obligation to share information in this country with legitimate government fact finders. this is one of them. the fact her husband is on the supreme court does not inoculate her from sharing this information. >> betsy, you report on not just the committee but the conservative movement. how significant do you think it is to think about the wife of the supreme court justice being called in by the committee? >> it's significant, but it's not the most aggressive step the committee has taken thus far in its investigation.

what we are seeing today is the conclusion of one of the stranger subplots of the select committee probe. if we are talking about some of the most aggressive steps that this panel has taken, i think without question the top of the list, you are going to have subpoenas to other members of congress. that's something that was very much a line nobody wanted to cross until the committee decided it needed to. ginni thomas is not a member of the u.s. government. she's married to, of course, a prominent u.s. government official. she and her allies have said her activism work is separate from the work her husband does. if that's correct, then, of course, there wouldn't be any reason she should receive preferential treatment compared to the thousands -- literally thousands of other people who the select committee has interviewed. they have interviewed people farther away from the conversations about the president's efforts to overturn the election results than ginni thomas. it was always a head scratcher

why the committee didn't want to at least politely ask ginni thomas to answer some questions. "the washington post" reported recently that liz cheney particularly had reservations or opposition to trying to bring in ginni thomas. john eastman clerked for justice thomas, one of liz cheney's top staffers, a conservative lawyer, also at one point clerked for clarence thomas. the conservative legal community in washington, d.c. is small. many of these people have known each other a long time. the community of clarence thomas' clerks is also small and speaking broadly, not talking about any individual, not specifically talking about john wood or john eastman but about the community of clarence thomas' clerks, this is a tight knit group of people. the fact that the dam is broken

perhaps says more about some of the tensions within the committee itself than it does about what they have about thomas given we already know they had so much information about her efforts to support the president's efforts. >> "the new york times" is reporting on what they say is some of the content of some of the emails from eastman around the time there were discussions about whether to take this fight to the supreme court. according to two people briefed, eastman wrote, the odds are not based on the legal merits but an assessment of the justices' spines. i understand there's a fight under way. we are told they are part of the emails. they are in the possession of the january 6th committee. i know as betsy reports, this is a small group. but you have eastman, who we know is in contact with ginni thomas. we know he was a clerk for clarence thomas. does this speak not just potentially to the case the

committee is trying to build but also what's going on in terms of how much, i guess, is getting out there on private discussions held among supreme court justices? >> yes. here is where a conversation with ginni thomas could be essential. it's different -- the committee's mission is different from a criminal prosecution. here where the goal is to identify all the facts that happened and put them out there in the interest of transparency and documenting history, there's a suggestion from what you just read that there's a leak at the supreme court. one possibility of how john eastman got information about what was going on at the supreme court is linked by ginni thomas, a person we know they are talking to. or is it that eastman is talking to his former boss himself? these are legitimate questions. the reason we need to know is to determine whether clarence thomas is fit to serve and decide these cases. we know he declined to recuse himself in a decision involving

the turnover of these very documents. messages that could have exposed the involvement of his wife. for that reason, i think the committee is well within its rights to identify what kind of internal communications are occurring from the supreme court. maybe eastman has a pipeline to clarence thomas. >> barbara, betsy, ali, thanks to all of you for talking to us about this breaking news. that's going to do it for this hour. join us every weekday at our usual hour, 1:00 eastern time, right here on msnbc. special coverage of the third round of january 6th hearings begins with andrea mitchell and hallie jackson right after this. hallie jackson right after this. no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. you're pretty particular about keeping a healthy body.

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