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duty that day under the constitution and the laws of country." one lawman said if given the chance, members of the proud boys were willing to kill pence on january 6th. in just a few minutes we're expected to hear from former president trump speaking to the faith and freedom coalition in nashville, tennis is. earlier he released a statement that said in part "i never suggested to vice president pence that he overturn the election." all this coming, as we said, the latest hearing that provided vivid new details about the former president's pressure campaign on pence to overturn the election and pence's consistent refusal to go along with that. luke is a congressional reporter, elise jordan worked in the george bush administration, and barbara mcquade is a former u.s. attorney and law professor and vaughn hillyard is with me. he will be watching the former

president's remarks. >> he's about an hour late in is the faith and freedom coalition, the ralph reed-led organization that works to mobilize evangelical republicans. i got off the phone with ralph reed and i was asking him about january 6th and he was insisting the focus of the conference are the issues from roe v. wade to inflation, prices, yet we know what happens when donald trump takes the stage here. this is the first time we're going to hear from the former president since that first public hearing a week ago yesterday. so we have seen some of you, you saw that statement where he said after that hearing yesterday that he never told mike pence -- >> all those people were lying. >> he never told them to overturn the election. there's two important parts to that statement. number one, he was urging mike pence to reject the slate of electors, to send them back to

the states. there's nowhere in the constitution where mike pence has the sport to do that. as donald trump goes out on stage, he is handing investigators at the d.o.j. new content because he may have not overtly told mike pence ahead of january 6th to overturn the election but just four months ago he said that's exactly what he wanted mike pence to do. he said at the time, "mike pence did have the right to change the outcome and they now want to take that right away. unfortunately he didn't exercise that power, he could have overturned the election." donald trump has spoken a lot of words over the last 18 months and he may only be adding to that with everybody public appearance he makes here out. >> it's important to talk why about luke, you point out that judge loony said trump and his supporters remain a clear and

danger to american democracy because the former president and aides are executing a blueprint in open and plain view of the american public. are we paying a little too much attention about what has gone behind and not enough to fixing it, to laying the groundwork to make sure it doesn't happen in the mid terms, to make sure it doesn't happen in 2024? >> i think it's important to know exactly what happened so it could be prevented in the future. it's very clear from watching the january 6th committee hearings how close americans democracy came to veering into something else, into something that was not a democratic peaceful transition of power. and what you saw there was there were the guardrails of democracy were tested, whether it was tested interfering with the justice department or pressuring state officials or putting

forward false slates of electors or even talk of seizing voting machines and finally pressuring his own vice president, mike pence. there were different attempts at meddling with the democratic process. it's important to learn and it's important to have people in positions of power who respect the rule of law. donald trump said in that statement he was not trying to overturn the election, he was encouraging mike pence to reject the electoral votes for joe biden, which then would have overturned the election. it's a distinction without a difference. the vice president did not have that authority. the legal experts have made that quite clear and it's important to have people in those positions who will respect democracy. >> barbara, if trump wants to argue i was doing the right things by ensuring basically he

was acting in good faith, based on what we've heard, the testimony that's already been given to the committee and we know there's more to come, does that argument have any merit? >> i think what we heard this week really defeats that argument. until monday and yesterday's hearings, we have seen some reporting that insider have told trump that the legal theory was bad but i think we heard so much more evidence this week than i ever imagined. i think it was quite devastating to donald trump. even if he never said the words out loud i know i lost, there is this theory in loss called willful blindness. juries get these instructions all the time and are told because you cannot read another person's line, you may draw reasonable inferences and you cannot turn a blind eye to the high probability that a fact is

true. i think they've done quite a good job of establishing his fraudulent intent, certainly it would be important to know whether there was any evidence to negate that but we haven't seen it so far. >> the focus of yesterday's hearing was mike pence, who is plotting his own run for president in 2024. he actually in ohio during the hearing. he was talking about energy. he did not answer repeated questions by reporters there about january 6th. in fact, reporters were escorted out of the room. do you think that pence can run a campaign and talk about other issues or is he going to be widely defined good or bad depending on the audience by what happened that day and what he did? >> well, chris, it's certainly not going to help him with the republican base voters that he's going to meet in the primary that he has been at the forefront of not allowing donald trump to overthrow a fair

election. so that is actually not a plus when it comes to republican-based voters. on the other side, mike pence is having a redemptive moment right now. what he did, the country now know how close the democracy came, how his own life was threatened and how he showed personal courage. you can disagree with many, many things he did during the trump administration but when it was time of making a big call, he held the line for democracy. so is that going to be something that is going to age well as these hearings go forward? this is a conversation keep in mind that republican leadership doesn't want to have. the same republicans and they might go along with trump public live but behind closed doors they want to get rid of him, too. they do not want to deal with this reckoning right now. all he's doing is strengthening

the fringe characters. you look at what's happening in pennsylvania when the governor is a huge denier and would appoint the secretary of state. so candidates like that are gaining strength from this from the truth coming out in a way that the base doesn't want to hear it. it's forcing a reckoning that many republicans just don't want to happen. >> and that base exactly the people that the former president is talking to, right? >> exactly. it's important to know what is important to people is winning elections. i'm hearing from voters and i was talking to another evangelical leader who will be at the conference, when i asked him about trump and pence, he said there's one individual who has proven an ability to win in the past and that's donald trump. we've got three conservative supreme court justices, more than a hundred other federal judges and ultimately one can be

displeased and condemn what happened on january 6th but when it comes to the totality of four years and what the white house and the presidency means, it means a heck of a lot to conservatives. >> abortion, lbgtq rights, what they consider to be wrong with the system, on and on and on. >> ralph reed said these folks have been knocking on the doors for what moment? this moment. january 6th, it's a distraction and may be important but all these other issues are what conservative activists have been fighting for for decades now. >> which is probably why, elise, mike pence, told the wall street journal, and i'm going to quote him here, the president and i have very different styles, we were working shoulder to shoulder and we delivered for the american people. that's a fine line and a tough one for him to walk, especially in the primaries.

>> is he that good of a politician where he's going to be able to thread that needle? you see these races just over -- you've seen nancy mace and how she managed to condemn trump yet she still managed to eke it out in a primary. it's going to be that level of political savvy that mike pence is going to have to harness if he's going to still be able to take all the achievements that he was talking about that evangelicals was so excited about, number one being first and foremost the judges that were appointed to the supreme court in the roe decision that is probably going to be overturned and is he going to be able to glom on to that enough that some of his -- that he didn't overthrow the election, that he can separate from that a bit. >> i think what we're not quite halfway or maybe around halfway through the primaries, to what extent do you think the question of where you stand on the issue of trump or pence becomes a

litmus test in these primaries and then ultimately in the election? >> well, i think it's very much a litmus test in the candidate does not have their own brand that is strong enough to pull away from national trends. if you are not as strong a brand as nancy mace was able to develop for herself, you could easily be taken down by a trump endorsement. we have seen those candidates who are big names in their states, people like brian kemp, even brad raffensperger and donald trump seems to be doing his endorsements based on one standard and that is do you agree with him that the election was stolen through widespread fraud? and if you don't, then he's going to oppose. >> you know, the panel has not

heard from mike pence himself. we did learn a lot from the people around him in the days leading up, on that day. do you think ultimately there are things we will never learn unless we hear from mike pence directly? >> i think in a perfect world we would hear from mike pence because i think there are some conversations that only he and donald trump know the content of, when they were talking on the phone, for example. i think this is probably strategically the committee is going to get. if they went toe to toe with mike pence to get this information, he would be less than a friendly witness. he might be a bit of a hostile witness. he is in a politically frustrate position. i think using his close aides was about the closest they were going to get. they knew the things that mattered, about the pressure that was being applied to mike pence and how wrong it was. at the end of the day, that's all you really need. so i think they were able to achieve what they needed to achieve even without mike pence and maybe in a way that didn't

alienate others. >> we just got some breaking news from the hill. garrett haake is reporting that right after this letter came from d.o.j. to the committee and it said listen, we need transcripts, here's what the committee is saying. they are going to cooperate with the department of justice. quote, the select committee is engaged in a cooperative process to address the needs of the department of justice. we are not inclined to share the details of that publicly. we believe accountability is important and we will not be an obstacle to the department's prosecutions. how significant do you see that, barbara? >> i think that's really important. the justice department has discovery obligations. they need to be able to produce to the defense certain documents. they also want to see for themselves whether they are people who claim to are cooperated with the committee were cooperative, whether they're telling the committee the same thing they're telling the justice department. it really is important they see

those things and they probably don't need all 1,000 transcripts right now but if they can give them what they need as they need it, i think that will be very helpful to the justice department so they don't hit national in the prosecution considering not only what the justice department is doing overtly but the kind of cooperation they're trying to achieve with defendants who may be under indictment or under investigation who have not yet entered guilty pleas. >> we should say, luke broadwater, you and your colleague, glen thrush, were the ones who broke this story. anything you want to add to that? >> yeah, thanks. we posted that just before i got on the air. the negotiations have been ongoing. i think that letter from the justice department really brought a lot of attention to this issue and we do now know that the committee says they will cooperate. we could see the transcripts as soon as next month, i'm told. not we could see them but the justice department will see them. and that's important because the

justice department believes they are -- could be integral to their investigation. there had been talk earlier about the committee not releasing them till september, but it does seem like negotiations have sped up, i think in part because of that public letter that the justice department released on wednesday. >> let me ask you to fill out one of the details that you report and, again, this article was here as we went on the air for 2:00, so i'm just reading it for the first time to luke, but it says that u.s. attorneys for the district of columbia were grossing increasingly impatient which they see as a central source of information needed to guide their own interviews with former president trump's allies, according to people familiar with the negotiations. any more of a deep dive on who that might be and in particular what they're hoping to find? >> you know, i don't know. the justice department's request was very broad. they literally asked for every

transcript. so it's hard to know exactly what they're looking for. i think they did give us a couple hints in that letter that they're specifically looking at some other prosecutions with the rioters that some of the rioter video that you saw that were played in some of the court hearings made it clear that people who were under criminal prosecution had also talked to the justice department. but -- i'm sorry, had talked to the committee. but the request is so broad, it really could go anywhere. we know there are several grand juries right now looking into all the events of january 6th and looking beyond just the rioters themselves. they know there are investigations into the fake electors scheme, subpoenas asking questions for the rally organizers and political actors in both the executive branch and the legislative branch, meaning

congress. so i don't know exactly where the justice department investigation will go but they're asking for a pretty wide net of transcripts as they conduct it. >> they may find things they don't even know they were looking for. luke broadwater. if the president starts speaking, come back and let us know. inflation surging, stocks down, gas prices reaching new highs. why is president biden saying a recession is not inevitable? then growing fears that a third u.s. veteran may be missing in ukraine. what we know so far about the americans who joined the fight against russia's invasion and then vanished. and what the president just said about it today. plus, shots in all arms. the fda approving covid vaccines for kid 5 and under. why some parents are both relieved and angry. you're watching msnbc. c. with merrill.

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right now there's a huge question looming over the economy. are we headed toward a recession? "the wall street journal" reports a survey found more than 60% of ceos see a recessionary period in the next 12 to 18 months. president biden was asked about the potential for a recession and he said, quote, it is not

inevitable. still, there are signs the economy is slowing down, a key indicator, housing starts are at their lowest level in more than a year. inflation is still raging, the cost of groceries now up nearly 12% from last year. joining me is the editor at large with the intelligence times. great to see you, lillian. i spoke with gene sperling about the possibility of a recession. here's what he told me. >> what we are saying is that having so many americans working, back in the workforce with less household debt service, with stronger checking accounts, all of those things mean that more americans have a degree of resilience. we're not trying to put out a crystal ball and say we can predict all the risks in the economy, in the global economy, but we are saying when you look at the united states, when you look at the impact that the american rescue plan has had on employment, on household economic security, we do think

we are better positioned than any other nation to make that transition to more balanced, stable growth, even in light of some of the tough steps that the federal reserve is likely to take to tame inflation. >> many of the ceos say with interest rates going up, that means we're going to be able to hire less, maybe even stop layoffs. is there sort of a preponderance of thought out there among economists, among people you're talking to about the possibility of a recession is. >> the president is not just a commander in chief, he is a cheerleader in chief. he knows it's very easy for a country to talk itself into recession. if you look at all the consumer surveys and business surveys, it's table. if you look at more data, the was in is mixed. you have mortgage rates, you

have retail sales but spending on services is looking like it going to go up this summer because all the things people haven't been able to do on covid like go on holiday and stuff like that is starting to come back and at the same time you're seeing unemployment still at pretty low levels historically. so the picture is mixed. but what everyone is really concerned about of course is what's going to happen as higher interest rates begin to bite and the reality is there may be a slowdown in demand and unfortunately on the supply side in terms of the goods and services being supplied, you've still got a lot of bottlenecks which can't be fixed without much bigger structural reform and intelligent government policy. one thing i agree with gene sperling on very strongly, if you look at america, it's pretty easy to feel down beat about the economic outlook given the rising interest rate and

inflation rate. we're not seeing anything like this in 40 years. if you look at it internationally, america is kind of in the middle of the pack in terms of the inflation rate and its economy is probably better placed to weather some of the strains than some of the many others in europe. you have not so much a beauty parade but an ugly parade. >> let's talk about some of the strains and one of the ones felt by americans, the housing market. it's been booming because of loaf inventory but mortgage rates are rising at the fastest rate in 35 years. is the expectation it will have an effect on home prices? what's going to be the real world impact, particularly if those rates keep going up? >> the reality is that the last two years you have had an incredible amount of ultra cheap money swirling around the economy. the federal reserve, let's remember, doubled the size of its balance sheet, which equates to the amount of liquidity in

the system. it doubled the size of its balance sheet during covid. and what it's trying to do now is shrink it back. if there weren't signs of strains in the housing market, that would be a surprise. the big question right now is are are you going to have a smooth, steady landing or crash? back in the days when people were trying to organize the first withdrawal from all that excess monetary easing after the 2008 financial crisis, a lot of central bankers talked as if they were trying to land a plane, they wanted to come in at a steady glide ratio, put foam on the run way and make sure the passengers didn't feel too much of a jolt. unfortunately, history shows it doesn't end up in a smooth glide path, you have some turbulence.

>> thank you for taking time to talk to us. the surging gas prices and prices overall are forcing some businesses to make decisions they've never had to make before. shaquille brewster is in chicago for us. i think a lot of businesses are past the point of being able to absorb these rising costs, they have to raise prices. i wonder what you're finding there in illinois. >> reporter: it's exactly what you're saying, chris. i had a discussion with the head of shoreline sightseeing, they operate the tours along the chicago river and they're saying they have to add a fuel surcharge for the tickets. now, it's a dollar extra for a $45 ticket but it's an example of how consumers and tourists are seeing prices increase for just another item. when you talk to the companies and hear what they have to say, they don't want to do this but

feel like they have no choice. >> our fuel prices are up 54% from where they were a year ago at this time. it's not just fuel, it's all the lubricants, all the maintenance and parts that go into it and the supplies for the concession stands, all of that is up across the board. do we park boats and sit them and save money on fuel and labor or do we have that additional service through more departures that our customers want? >> chris, you hear the company saying they're seeing higher prices so they have no choice but to pass at least some of that on to consumers. consumers seeing the higher prices are adjusting their own behavior, some people not taking that summer road trip to chicago, for example, and that only hurts the company. that's the cycle that we get caught in and that's the frustration that you're hearing and the concern in the conversation that you were just having that if more people are constraining and making those adjustments, it will only lead

to a tougher economic condition for many people. >> so interesting but also so obviously difficult for so many small business owners. i will say i have no investment or horse in this race but i've taken the architecture cruise in chicago, fantastic. did you get a chance to do it, shaq? it's good. >> reporter: i've done it before, a couple of times. it's amazing. >> thank you. so many parents have been waiting months for this, the fda finally approving covid vaccines for america's youngest. we'll get into why. >> and reports of another u.s. veteran missing after their family said they volunteered to fight in ukraine. the latest on what the state department is saying about it. you're watching msnbc. neighborhoods "open". businesses "open". fields "open". who doesn't love "open"? offices.

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a representative told "the washington post" a third missing american is marine veteran grady kerpasi. according to the state news agency, a russian foreign ministry spokes person said they have not been contacted about americans. >> during an operation they got separated and they did not make their rendezvous point. >> what did you do then is this. >> my mom has this big pillow on her bed. i kind of fell on it and cried into it a lot. >> president biden said just this morning he is being kept in the loop. >> i have been briefed. we don't know where they are but i want to reiterate americans should not be going to ukraine now. i'll say it again. americans should not be going to ukraine now. >> let's bring in jason

beardsley, who serves as executive director of the association of the u.s. navy. what's your take on the missing americans and what happens if we find out they are in fact american prisoners of war there? what does the u.s. government do? >> first, my heart goes out to the families, the relatives, the fiancee. that's heart breaking news. you heard from the president, it's a very clear statement from the united states government that there is a sanction, a prohibition from the u.s. government, u.s. forces going in or u.s. members or volunteers to fight for ukraine and there are plenty that are doing that but what you heard the president say was the united states government is not going to back you which means the process is going to be long and americans that do get in trouble.

the united states doesn't have relations, diplomatic relations with the dnr so the soviets it use the blame game to lay off any sort of responsibilities here. this is a tough situation. americans that are traveling and i know some that do and have, they know the consequences and they understand the responsibilities. it does make it tough. >> tough -- it sounds almost from what you're saying that it sounds nearly impossible. one of the missing veterans, alexander, told his mother that he would be going dark just before he went missing. what does that indicate to you and can you assess the level of how difficult this situation is? >> well, a comment like that can be very tactical. they may have been, as the fiancee reports, on the eve of an operation, in which case they're going to black their cell phones and they might plan a mission to go dark so to

speak. but really what it means, as you said, this is difficult, the russians have an interest here in utilizing as much leverage as possible to get zelenskyy to back off and to really gain at the diplomatic table when they're ready. so more than likely there is a form of protection the americans have in that they are very valuable in that process. this is not to paint all hope is gone. it's rather to say that americans who undertake the responsibility to do this must do it with a grave and sober sort of mindset understanding what they're about to get into, which is a war and we do not have control inside the ukraine. so this is a very difficult situation that we just recommend americans pray, understand why they went there and know how to lift them up in support. >> and in our last minute, i want to ask you about what your assessment is of what's happening on the ground. for example, vladimir putin today brushed off sanctions and said the previous world order is

finished. he's obviously still defiant. is that bluster or does putin have reason to be confident at this stage of the invasion of ukraine? >> his confidence is really how they've gone since the 2014, the early invasions of the donbas region. they've established certainly financial measures to deal with the sanctions the united states placed on them. so there's some long-term play they have there. in addition, the ukrainians are in a very desperate position right now. we've sent weapons and initiated the movement of money and there as a lot of bureaucracy in the middle of that. this is going to be a tough summer for the ukrainian. russia has empire power and the administration must do everything it can to expedite and facilitate the fast movement of weapons into the hands of ukrainians now. that's not easy to do during a war. >> jason beardsley, it is always

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excited. i probably let out a few curse words in my office loudly to myself. it is just a relief. i want to bring in daniel, a digital reporter for today and msnbc medical contributor dr. vin gupta. we read a few excited reactions but you got a lot of varied responses to news about the vaccine. what kind of stuck out to the most in those conversations? >> absolutely, chris. thanks so much for having me. the majority of the parents i spoke to are very excited, anxious to make appointments for vaccines for their children. what stuck out the most was every single parent i spoke to also expressed anger and frustration that it took so long for these vaccines to be made available in the first place. one mom told me, and i quote, that we felt utterly abandoned by the institutions that are supposed to prioritize the health of everyone.

and another mom said she felt a level of anger that makes me want to come bust with rage. another mom told me she is not going to celebrate this moment until her child has had the vaccine because of the back and forth. yes, these parents are excited, listening to their pediatricians who are telling them this vaccine is safe but they're not quick to forget what they've had to endure and how low on the priority list they feel they are and the children of the u.s. to protect people from this virus. >> the folks in that category didn't do a lot of stuff with their families because they didn't want the possibility of bringing it home. for the other folks there's a lot of skepticism. if you look at the vaccination rates for kid in the age group just above this, 5 to 11, just 36% says the cdc have gotten one

dose, 29% have gotten two doses. so whatever anger people may have aside, what do you say to people who are skeptical or why do you think those numbers are so low? >> chris, good to see you. good afternoon. i will say as a parent to two young kids under 5, my boy just turned 5, this is -- >> two assume cute little boys, if i might say. but that's an aside. go ahead. >> thanks, chris. what i'll say is these are all really related considerations here. the reason it took longer is because pfizer and moderna were trying to find that magic dose for kids where tolerablity was not an issue or side effects was not an issue, and you had issues like myocarditis.

finding the dose for children less than 5 was tougher. it's harder to enroll children under 5 because you have to get parental consent. parents have to consent to kids getting the vaccine in the first place. it's a lot harder to do these clinical trials in children under 5 than adults over 18. and finding that magic dose, we've now found it. here we are. it's great news. to the criticism, i do think this is where our public officials have to be accountable and have to acknowledge this anger. i was critical they should have done a rolling approval. pfizer will likely be a three-shot regimen for kids under five. why not allow parents to work towards doses one and two a few months ago and now they've approved three. was there a delay that could have been avoidable? absolutely there was. it's really key to your first point just quickly, these vaccines are going to keep kids out of the hospital, chris. see, that's the key point here. it will keep them out of the hospital and we know that covid,

omicron especially, is landing kids in the hospital six times the rate relative to flu. so that's a really high rate. >> we only have a minute left but i do want to ask you about the reporting that parents in florida will have to wait longer for access than in other states because the miami herald is reporting that doctors there were outraged when governor ron desantis decided not to preorder vaccines for kids under 5, the only state, by the way, to make that call. are these the kinds of things that happen that potentially make some parents have even more of a pause before they decide to get their kids vaccinated? >> absolutely, chris. this will make people, parents in florida wonder is there something wrong with the vaccine in terms of the side effects, effectiveness and to all those parents out there right now watching in the state of florida, these vaccines are incredibly safe. they cause less side effects than most other pediatric

vaccines. don't pay attention to the headlines saying effectiveness of the vaccine less than 50%. that's talking about things that don't matter. these vaccines are 100% effective at keeping your kids out of hospital. covid is landing kids in times the rate relative to flu. you readily get your kids vaccinated for flu. you should do the same with covid. that's what matters. ignore the politics. >> daniel, thank you for your reporting. dr. vin gupta, thank. happy father's day, good to see you again. and another record number of crossings at american's southern border. there is something in this month's data that we've never seen before. we'll share that reporting, next. seen before. we'll share that reporting, next no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. (woman vo) sailing a great river past extraordinary landscapes into the heart of iconic cities

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