so new developments just coming in from the house january 6th committee on this friday afternoon. a spokesperson saying they will cooperate with the justice department request to share witness transcripts to help the doj with its investigations and prosecutions. coming up later this hour, we'll talk with one of the members of that january 6th committee about that development and where the hearings go from here. also, january 6th related, former trump adviser peter navarro pleading nonguilty on those contempt of court charges. what his lawyers are saying. and right now, former president trump, the man at the center of the january 6th hearings, speaking live at the faith and freedom coalition in nashville. we have a lot going on for a friday. i'm hallie jackson in washington along with our nbc news team. ali vitali is on capitol hill. and we're joined by pete williams.

talk to us about this new development as it relates to the january 6th committee and this intent to respond to this doj request for transcripts. it was something the department of justice had to ask for twice to this point. >> yeah, had to ask for twice. and you saw in the letter that came yesterday, as hearings were ongoing, that the justice department said that by not having this, it could also be hampering some of the investigations that they are already ongoing with. that's something that i posed to chairman bennie thompson yesterday after the hearings were over. he said, basically, it wasn't a question of if they were going to comply, but went. although, now, we do have a better sense that that compliance is happening. i can throw up for you on the screen there a statement from a committee spokesperson who says, the select committee is engaged in a cooperative process to address the needs of the department of justice. they're not inclined to share the details of that publicly, but they believe according to this statement that accountability is important and won't be an obstacle to the department's prosecutions. that's sort of what thompson

said to me yesterday. listen to that. >> we have one letter. there has not been any conversation with any member of the committee about what the department of justice is doing. now, we will cooperate with them, but the committee has its own timetable. we are not going to stop what we're doing to share the information that we've gotten so far. >> and so, of course, there, hallie, making the point that they're doing their work right now. telling the story of january 6th to the american public in these public hearings. thompson has also said that they're prioritizing the report that they're going to put out about what they found about january 6th. but at the same time, it's also clear, that's their timeline. after the hearings are over, that's when they'll start giving the doj what it's asking for here. >> one of the people we're hearing from today, ali, is the former attorney for donald trump, and that's rudy giuliani,

who was asked, of course, about these january 6th committee hearings at an unrelated campaign event for his son. watch. >> donald trump had nothing to do with what happened on january 6th after his speech. nothing. zero. he didn't know about it in advance. he didn't plan it, and he didn't say a darned thing to him that would make them riot. >> obviously, the committee sees it extremely differently. their whole thesis, their whole argument is that donald trump was, with in fact, with at the center of what they have described as an attempted coup. they're going to pick up their hearings next tuesday. what should we be looking for as we look ahead to that, ali? >> the way that they continue to turn the narrative back to donald trump. even as each of these hearings have their own different hmm, which is the pressure campaign against mike pence. next week, it will be the pressure campaign at the state level. you'll hear, for example, from the georgia secretary of state, brad rafnsburger. now we'll probably hear that infamous phone call between trump saying that he wants them

to find the exact number of votes that they would need plus one to overturn the election in georgia. that's what's going to be the focus there. but again, even as they detail and get into the weeds on these subplots, it all comes back to the central premise, which is, where was donald trump in all of this? the committee's findings, the exact antithesis of what rudy giuliani is saying here. >> let me turn to you, peter. navarro today entered a not guilty plea. tell us more. >> there were two orders of business today, hallie. one is the plea, not guilty, as you say. the second is the trial date. his lawyers, and by the way, he now has lawyers after representing himself at the first hearing. they say they need a lot of time. that this is a complicated case. that there are complex constitutional issues. they also say that he has a book coming out and that he wants to do a marketing campaign for it that would start in august and last through december.

so they suggested to the judge that a good time to start trial might be early next year. the government said, there's no immediate to delay the trial. that the facts are very straightforward. the judge himself said that he didn't think it was that complicated, so he set a mid-november trial date of november 17th, ali. >> we also hear from navarro's attorney general, complaining about the way that navarro was arrested, calling it outrageous. here it is. >> they put him in handcuffs, they put him in leg irons. i can tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that does not typically happen to career criminals. it was highly unusual and obviously done for the purpose of humiliating mr. navarro. >> setting aside that nvarro now does have legal representation and an attorney, does any of that hold water, pete? >> it may, but it may also not be relevant to the charge of contempt of charges. this is something that bothers mr. navarro a lot. it is true generally speaking in white collar cases, people are given the chance to turn

themselves in. instead, he was arrested as he was on the jetway of an airplane to go down south to a tv interview. he said that he was denied food and water, that the fbi wouldn't let him call a lawyer. the government says none of that is true. but in a sense, it has nothing to do, ultimately, with the question of his guilt or innocence on the charge or guilt or not guilty on the question of whether he was contemptuous of congress. haas the legal question and all of this other stuff is sort of beside the point, legally. >> pete williams live for us on that, pete. as always, good to see you. >> you bet. right now down in nashville, former president trump is speaking on camera in public for the first time since these january 6th hearings attempting to connect him to this insurrection, at the center of this plot, began. this is the faith and freedom coalition down again in tennessee. i want to bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard and nbc news digital political reporter who is in nashville for us, and msnbc political contributor is with us as well. peter, i see you in the center of my screen here. you are, i believe, at the

speech. i assume you've stepped outside to be able to chat with us. any headlines so far or not so much? >> so the president is speaking right now, in fact. and he is saying that the committee's work is a sham. he's been particularly insulting of individual members of the committee. he described adam schiff, as having a watermelon head, so that's one small headline. but he also has said that the committee, their work has been edited, selectively edited that paints him in the worst possible light. so seven, eight, nine-hour depositions according to trump have been edited down to 5, 10, 15-second little snippets that the public is seeing and not really capturing the full scope of what witnesses are saying. so he is contending that this is a one-sided process. the committee is not giving him a fair shake. and he is very angry and a lot of his speech is about him going off the teleprompter and really

venting as he sees a as the unfairness of this committee. >> that is not a new argument from former president trump. he has decried the makeup of this committee in the past, although we should note here, it was legitimately created in congress. it is a legitimately seated committee. seven democrats, two republicans who sit on it. >> that's right. it's not a new argument. he makes the argument that the two republicans are vocal critics of his. liz cheney, adam kinzinger. he described kinzinger as kind of a cry baby. he's very, very condemning of liz cheney, as well. so he doesn't think that this is really representative. jim jordan, congressman -- republican congressman from ohio, an ally of trump, spoke at this convention as well. trump had a conversation with jordan. jordan said that it was something that he said that was edited my the committee and was

unfair and was selective and trump mentioned that incident, as well. so trump is claiming that this is essentially a kangaroo court. and that people should not take this as the final word on what happened on january 6th. >> of course, the committee is trying to create what they believe is an accurate record of the historical facts based on the words of the people closest to donald trump at the time of what happened. peter, thank you. vaughn, let me turn to you. one of the interesting dynamics here, too, is we saw mike pence out on -- i don't want to call it the campaign trail, he was there in ohio at an event for the ohio governor, dewine, but he was out and about. you are well connected sourcing wise to pence world. any reaction today over what we saw unfold over the last 24 hours, of taped depositions, live witnesses from people close to the pence orbit. >> in the entire lead up, they were proud of the fact that they complied with this january 6th

investigation and i think it's not unsurprising, i know in your coverage of the former vice president, as well, over the last year and a half, he has distanced himself for not putting himself in a position where he'd have to directly take questions on this himself. and we have not seen him before the january 6th committee either. that's where yesterday multiple reporters who were at the ohio event were attempting to ask him questions as that january 6th hearings was ongoing. he chose not to answer any of those questions. he will be going to chicago and giving a speech on the economy, before making his way on monday, down to peoria, illinois, to meet with county gop activists a at a dinner there. and actually, as you and peter were talking, hallie, he directed -- still ongoing, about 25 minutes now of a monologue of january 6th. this is the first time we have heard him speak on camera since that first public hearing more than a week ago here. and mike pence is his target there.

saying that mike pence didn't have the courage. and i think the -- based off the 25 minutes that we've heard from the former president there in nashville so far, there has only been one denial. and that one denial was him claiming that he never called mike pence a wimp. he said that he doesn't even know the individual who suggested that. i think it's important, the individual that america saw in that deposition was -- >> wasn't it nick luna. >> nick luna, hallie, he was his personal aide. his body man. he very well knows who nick luna is. nick luna was in the west wing there and was the one overhearing that phone call there that morning of january 6th. but again, no other denials, hallie, here, other than calling the videos deceptive or misleading. but there's no regret from the former president about what happened, very clearly, here. >> just so i'm clear, he denied the wimp piece of it. he didn't deny the p-word comment. >> he has not addressed the p-word in front of the evangelical crowd in nashville, hallie. >> i think it is worth noting and just reminding folks that

this is the first time that we have heard from donald trump. as you note, vaughn, going after mike pence, since we have discovered just how close these rioters were to the then vice president, 40 feet away as the committee displayed in their testimony and in the hearing yesterday with that graphic showing just how much, right, mike pence and his aides had their safety on the line on the day that this happened. vaughn, thank you. greg, let me turn to you. somebody else who is set to be at this event in nashville is herschel walker. you have been doing quite a bit of reporting on herschel walker in the past week as revelation after revelation has come out. >> herschel walker has now publicly acknowledged having three children beyond the son he has always acknowledged. and this is the first time this is coming to light. daily beast broke these initial stories. and the story is not that he has children out of wedlock, it is the fact that he's been hypocritical all this time,

talking about quloub, how important it is for fathers to stay in their children's lives, particularly black fathers. so it's being looked at as yet another issue where he's either had falsehoods or lies or exaggerations or overall blunders. will this affect the outcome of the race? look, senator raphael warnock's top allies are not celebrating this news. they know it's a very long race and that herschel walker will be a very formidable foe. but will it help their narrative that he's unfit for office? it could. they have built their case piece by piece, that his history of violent behavior could render him incapable of serving in office. >> greg bluestein, thank you for that. good to have you, as always, with your perspective on the ground there in georgia. vaughn, thanks to you, too. coming up, only this hour, a member of the january 6th committee, jamie raskin, set to join us live. we'll ask about the committee's new cooperation now with the

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news break in the last few minutes, a third person has died after that shooting inside an alabama church. police have identified the victim as an 84-year-old woman. the two others shot and killed, an 84-year-old man and a 75-year-old woman. the suspected shooter, 71, is now facing capital murder charges. officials have not released his name, but they do say he was a, quote, occasional attendee of the church just outside of birmingham. that attack is only adding pressure on the bipartisan group of senators still working to try

to figure out some kind of a gun package in congress. with multiple sources telling nbc news, we could see text of the bill as soon as today. that is significant. we'll explain why. but senator chris murphy, who is, you know, leading the negotiations on the democratic side, he's saying that he thinks that they can get this to a vote next week. i want to bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali rafa. ali, listen, text of a bill is kind of like a congress nerd thing, but it is so significant here, because there are a number of republicans, specifically, and i imagine some democrats who want to see the language here, who want to see making of mitch mcconnell, for example, does the framework match what is ultimately going end to up in the bill? how close to the finish line are they? >> hallie, senators say that they're close, but really no cigar yet. and remember, that main group of senators negotiating this bipartisan deal, senators murphy, sinema, cornyn, and tillis originally set a deadline of yesterday to get a final draft to senate majority leader chuck schumer for a vote hope apply next week.

we saw them meet privately for hours yesterday, coming out of those negotiations, with no deals, saying that they're still stuck on one provision in this bipartisan deal that we've seen be a snag in past attempt at gun reform over the last real decade. and that's the language around closing the boyfriend loophole. these senators saying that there's division over how to define a domestic abuser. lots of questions as to what goes into preventing these people from being able to get guns legally. would this possibly prevent a person who was in a domestic abuse relationship years ago from getting a gun now? there are a lot of complex questions here. republicans are pushing against any sort of broad overscoping language. texas senator john cornyn even suggesting dropping this provision from the bill to get it passed on that fourth of july deadline, actually, before that fourth of july deadline. but senator murphy saying, no, there is compromise to be made here, this can actually get

done. so senators say that they are really looking at more than 30 states that already either have legislation completed or have something in the works on closing the boyfriend loophole to really be used as a model for a federal provision about this. and they say that they're going to be in touch this weekend, really working out these details. as i said, they left yesterday, but they really don't have much time to get this done. they come back on monday, likely leave on thursday for that two-week, fourth of july res. so in between that time, they have to come to a compromise, finalize the drafting of this legislation, and obviously, put it on the floor for a vote. senate majority leader chuck schumer saying that he has been waiting eagerly for that to be given to him to put on the floor for a vote. a lot more to be done here, but these senators say that they are optimistic and confident that a deal can be made. worth mentioning really quick, hallie, these senators being home with their constituents --

>> i was just going to bring this up. >> they're hearing the feedback on their participation in this deal. we actually heard just minutes ago, texas senator john cornyn getting booed while he was delivering a speech at thetexas republican party convention down in texas. we're keeping an eye on the reaction from these senators as well as what they're facing this weekend, going into next week when this vote is expected, hallie. >> so glad you mentioned that, ali. this tweet from a houston chronicle reporter who was there shows video from people in the crowd actually reporting to be heard shouting "no red flag," some of the pushback cornyn is getting. ali rafa, thank you for that and for bringing us to speed on what's happening in texas. coming up, if you are planning to travel this summer, you might be wondering, how will those higher gas prices affect your trip, even after you get there. we'll talk about that, coming up. plus, where president biden is now saying today about the americans missing in ukraine. we're live overseas. ericans mise we're live overseas.

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in ukraine. watch. >> we don't know where they are, but i want to reiterate, americans should not be going to ukraine now. say it again. americans should not be going to ukraine now. >> the families of the two men in question say they were fighting on behalf of ukraine and according to them have not been seen from or heard from last week. the state department said yesterday it was looking into the possibility of a third u.s. citizen who may have also gone missing. meantime, in st. petersburg, russian president vladimir putin speaking today and addressed the kremlin called in their view extremely important. you heard putin lashing out at the u.s. and the west, saying that their sanctions blitzkrieg have failed. and in kyiv, boris johnson fitting the capital city for the first time since the war, just a day after the leaders of france, italy, and georgia met with zelenskyy there. i want to bring in ali aruezi who is in kyiv for us. we've seen more and more of these foreign visits over the last couple of weeks.

talk more about what's behind that and anything else we know about these missing americans, especially with the new comments from president biden today? >> hey, ali, that's right. an enormous amount of solidarity being shown to ukraine by european leaders. yesterday, the three most powerful members of the european union were here. and they've fast tracked ukraine's candidacy status for the european union. that's a very important step for ukraine to join the european union, but i have to note, there's still a long way to go before they get full membership. and boris johnson made his second surprise visit to kyiv now. he's forged a very close relationship with zelenskyy and he made a lot of promises to zelenskyy that i think that he wanted to hear. he promised to help them unblock ukrainian grain, which he said is being held hostage by moscow in the black sea ports. he pledged a lot more weapons, rocket systems, artillery, that they need to fight this war, which is what zelenskyy has been

asking for all along. and he also said that this continued barbaric assault by the russians continues on entirely civilian part-time, reducing their towns and cities to rubble. and boris johnson also said that these attacks show clear signs that civilians have been targeting. and he said that that's unquestionably a war crime being committed by the russians. and today, we had an opportunity to talk to clint williamson, a former u.s. ambassador for war crimes at large. he's working with state department funding to help the ukrainians. let's take a listen to what he had to say. >> the evidence is very transparent here. these -- the scale of these crimes is incredible. what we see here is heartbreaking, senseless, but it's replicated in village after village, town after town, city after city, in ukraine. i think there will be, you know, potentially hundreds of cases

that will be brought. but this is going to be a long process. >> and hallie, he promised to do whatever is needed to help ukraine bring people to justice, that have committed these war crimes here. and just, quickly, about those americans that you messagesed. still, we don't know a lot about them, other than that they were fighting on the 9th of june in kharkiv and the reports that we're hearing that we can't dpmt confirm say that's when they may have been taken by the russians. president biden said, you know, americans mustn't come here, but i can tell you, hallie, there are at least a few hundreds americans here in ukraine, whether they're in the foreign legion or helping medics or hospitaliers get people away from the front line. there are still a lot of americans here despite president biden's warnings. >> ali arouzi thank you for being with us and for that reporting from kyiv. as we have been reporting here, the war if ukraine is having a real impact on lives of americans here at home when it comes to the costs of gas, that have been going up and up over

past few months. that economic pain is putting a dent in what is traditionally the busiest travel time of the year. and it's not just about how much it costs to get where you're going, it's the cost of doing the stuff you want to do, when you do get where you're going. nbc's shaq brewster is in chicago covering this for us. shaq, good to see you. >> hi, there, hallie. you're seeing many of these increased costs being passed down to consumers, especially in the tourism industry. we're talking about things like fuel surcharges, later start times for things like water taxis and this is multiple boat operators across the country, telling us that they're even slowing down the speed in which they're traveling, relying more on the current to help defray and help them deal with the impact of those higher fuel costs. one tour operators telling us that compared to last year, they're spending 54% more on the cost of fuel than they did just a year ago, hallie. and those cost increases are something that consumers are noticing, especially folks going -- coming to chicago for

that vacation. i want you to listen to a few specific examples of how consumers are adjusting their behavior to what they're seeing from the tourist industry. >> school just ended yesterday. we decided, let's do something, and with the gas prices and all that's going on, we felt like, let's keep it easy and do a staycation. >> a lot of it is on the cost of fuel. so choosing to go by train from milwaukee to ann arbor, not renting a car. i was here two years ago, rented a car, drove from portland. i wasn't going to do that this time around. >> reporter: you continue to hear how folks are making those modest adjustments, cutting out certain activities and then that hurts the economies that are then relying on those consumers, especially after a year of pam shutdowns and dealing with the cost of inflation and increased costs on their own. so you get this idea that there's a cycle going on, and that's the concern that you hear from many of these business owners, that they just don't know how this will break and

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forced yellowstone national park to close. his office says he left before the flooding happened and came back early. at least 10,000 people had to be evacuated from the area. early estimates say the flooding has caused millions of dollars in damages. in iowa today, the state supreme court there is ruling abortion is not protected by the state's constitution. this reverses a decision by the court just four years ago that guaranteed the right to an abortion. with that opinion coming ahead of expectations that the u.s. supreme court is likely to overturn roe v. wade some time really in the next few weeks. msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos is here now. danny, explain what this ruling means, the significance of it, and where it goes from here. >> this is a very complicated ruling. it's not as straightforward as you might think. all the iowa court is doing here is holding that the iowa constitution, not the federal constitution, the iowa court would have no control there, that the iowa constitution does not create a fundamental right to an abortion. and that's very important, because the iowa court also says

that it may still apply the casey undue burden standard. after all, that's the supreme court, that's the law of the land, so that test may still apply. but going forward, the iowa constitution provides no such right. but meanwhile, at least for the next few days or so, the federal constitution does provide that right. but, of course, that strips away one more right or one more previously held right in that particular state under its state constitution. >> danny cevallos, appreciate for your breakdown. appreciate it. the january 6th select committee now looking towards tuesday's hearing where they're going to explore former president trump's pressure campaign on the state level to try overturn election results, especially in the state of georgia. that's where the former president urged officials there to, remember, in his words, find enough votes to overturn a legitimate win for president biden. i want to bring in a member of the january 6th committee, democratic congressman from maryland, jamie raskin.

congressman raskin, thank you for being back on the show. good afternoon to you. >> let me start with some of the news that has developed this afternoon, about transcripts now that will be shared with the justice department. can you hear me okay? >> yeah. >> the justice department had to ask twice for this committee to share those transcripts. can you give us some insight into the decision to cooperate with the doj, as they move forward with their own prosecution? >> you know, all of that is really within the control of the chairman, bennie thompson, but it's been very much in the interest of everybody in the committee that the information we gather go public generally, because we're just the representatives of the people and so, you know, i don't know exactly what the internal dynamics were of that particular discussion. >> let me just ask a couple of procedural questions here before i want to get into some of the substance of the hearing. we're looking ahead to the next hearings, are all of your witnesses lined up for the remaining hearings? >> it's still a moving target.

>> and we continue to get new disclosure of information and new witnesses getting in touch with us on an almost daily beats, which is why we're often scrambling to incorporate new information in the presentations that we're giving to the american people. >> have those new witnesses gotten in touch since the hearings began. in other words, do you believe that these hearings so far have shaken loose some people who want to talk to you. is that your sense? >> i do believe that. the vast majority of the people voluntarily cooperated from the beginning. i think that others are watching and recognizing that this will become the definitive historical record and they want to be able to participate by coming forward with information they've got. and you know, we're just making sure that we're checking everything very carefully and only putting out information that is documented. >> do we know when the pressure campaign on the doj, when that hearing focusing on that topic is going to be at?

i know that is one that had to be postponed. >> i'm not certain about the exact date of it, but all of this will happen in the month of june. >> your committee has now formally asked ginny thomas to testify. as that was breaking 24 hours ago, we now know that you like to hear from her. any word from her yet? has she agreed? >> you know, i'm not certain where the state of the conversations are there. i fully expect her to agree and to come in, because probably better than 95% of the people that we've approached have decided to come forward and to voluntarily talk with us and others have complied with subpoenas. there's a small group, maybe a round of about a dozen people in the inner entourage of donald trump, who have blown us off. but the courts have repeatedly sided with us in this process. and steve bannon just actually had his motion to quash the

indictment for criminal contempt that was handed down by the u.s. attorney and the department of justice here. he just had that motion to quash the indictment rejected in the united states district court of columbia. we've been winning overwhelming in court, because we have the same powers to subpoena people that a court does. >> what is the first question that you would like to ask ginny thomas, if you were to have that opportunity from the dais there? >> you know, she would just be one of hundreds of witnesses and i -- you know, i have not been specifically involved in the whole eastman/green bay sweep effort here. the focus of the hearing that i'm going to be running is about the mobilization of the mob and the violent domestic extremist groups. so to be honest, i haven't paid

very close attention to the ginny thomas issue, but suppose we want to know everything that she knows about the effort to get vice president mike pence to, you know, abandon his constitutional responsibilities and single handedly, unilaterally, nullify electoral college votes. >> you talked about how the hearing that you're focusing on is the mobilization of the mob and that sort of moment at the insurrection there. do you expect to present evidence that directly links that mob, as you describe them, those rioters, insurrectionists to donald trump's inner circle? something that will directly connect those dots. are we going to hear that? >> all of those details we have to wait for. i'm a couple hearings away. >> but you will present that. is that what you're saying? when that hearing comes, you are going to see that direct link made? >> there will be -- all of the evidence that we've found that is material and relevant to the

assault on the capitol, the proud boys, the oathkeepers, the 3percenters, the qanon, how all of these groups were organized and brought in. the use of various political communication vehicles to propagandaize them and recruit them. so all of that will be in there. and we'll try to fill in the portrait as much as we can of how the entire attack took place from top to the bottom. >> and do you believe that lipgs those rioters to donald trump's inner circle based on the evidence that you have in front of you? >> i know people have a thousand questions and that you'll have to wait for. >> let me ask you before you go, one more question, a bit of developing news. mentioned that former president trump is speaking in nashville as you may know, for the first time in public, on camera since

these hearings began. i don't like to do this often, congressman, but he talks specifically about these rioters that have been charged with crimes. and said most people should not be treated the way they're treated. and if i become president some day, i will be looking at them very, very seriously for pardons. i wonder, congressman, given the investigation that you have undertaken now, as part of this select committee, your reaction to the idea that some of those people may end up pardoned by donald trump. what that says to you. >> the political abuse of pardons is a major form of corruption in american government. and this president has made an art form of dangling the pardons before people he is trying to incentivize to do this or do that. you know, it would be very nice if we could get back to the normal use of the pardon as an instrument of forgiveness and redemption for people who have

either been unfairly or disproportionately punished, or people who somehow were victims of the miscarriage of justice. none of that applies to any of the people who assaulted principal officers on january 6th or invaded the capitol and obstructed a principal proceeding. if they thinks that there are specific people who have been convicted of assaulting a federal officer, for example, who didn't do it, he should come forward and speak clearly about the evidence that he has. about why they somehow deserve a pardon. otherwise, this is just a gratuitous and scandalous injection of politics into the presidential pardon power. unfortunately, it's not the first time we've seen it. and in fact, the pardon power has been very much part of some of the conversations that you've heard over the last few weeks with the committee and the hearings that we've had.

>> congressman jamie raskin, i'm grateful for your time. thank you. we'll be looking on tuesday, of course, for the next hearing from your committee. appreciate you being with us on a prid afternoon. >> thanks for having me. >> of course. right-wing extremists fueling attacks against the lgbtq plus community during this pride month as nbc news is reporting. we saw the arrest of those 31 white nationalists in idaho last weekend allegedly on their way to a pride event, but online, right-wing personalities have inundecaded lgbtq allies with threats forcing hem to cancel events altogether. mentions of drag queen story hour on twitter went up 777% in the last month, according to data provided by nbc news by a social media intelligence company. since then, since all of those mentions, we've seen members of proud boys storm a local library hosting one of these events, harassing the performer, forcing the library to boost its security, and a california state senator got a bomb threat for joking about making drag queen story hour a part of school curriculum.

nbc news digital senior reporter ben collins has just dropped this piece on nbc news.com. he has got in front of a camera for us to share more about his reporting. ben, the floor is yours. >> i think a lot of people thought that was a one and done thing on saturday, where they saw those 31 masked men pull out of a u-haul in idaho. but it is just the beginning of what these people are right to pull off. like you talked about, there was that proud boys storming of a drag queen story hour in california, but they have been arranging similar things in texas and arizona, maybe not at the militia level, but at the personal level. doesn't require a whole bunch of people to do that. they're also sending a bunch of these threats to transrights rallies. one in georgia win talked to the organizers. they received one the same night as this bust and had to cancel their event for the next weekday. this is something you're seeing increasingly in these spaces. they're obsessed with this drag queen story hour thing, they are not letting go of it and right to get them canceled. >> you interviewed scott weiner,

who got that bomb threat in the introduction. he called the attacks part of his very orchestrated attack machine. how is it that that machine has managed to grow so quickly, even if the last few weeks, the last month? >> first of all, they're focuset corporations, for example, are backing lgbtq causes. however, this has been going on for months and months. this whole groomer panic. the idea that disney movies are grooming children to become gay or trans. this was a big thing in the last few months. the difference is now they are targeting very specific events because it's pride month. there are a lot of pride month events out there hosted by things like local libraries and schools and private companies, as well. so that's the issue here. they have taken this abstract concept that they were upset about in the last few months and they've made it a thing in a very real space. >> you're talking about extremism online and a link to the real world and there's a

political piece of it, too, because 300 anti-lgbtq+ bills have been introduced across the country according to the human rights campaign and we cover that on our show, and i wonder if you can speak to what we're seeing in the state capitols and how you see that connecting to what we see online, not a direct connection, but in the overall discussion? >> yeah. that's what you see. the splc, i talked to michael hayden and he talked about how it's this big machine and it operates in the same way. the infrastructure of the critical race theory panic where people would find these examples in local schools and they would blow them out of proportion or take them out of context and say this is proof that they're trying to indoctrinate your children and that's what happened, there are some accounts that have come out of that that have shifted their focus entirely to lgbtq causes. for example, there's this camp to tiktok which is a big driver

in the space and they are constantly showing what they believe to be examples of the excesses of the lgbtq community and adding sentence to we live in hell or we are in hell to the end of it and it drives these communities, these anti-trans communities to action, and now they identify very specific events. coeur d' alene was one of those events. the proud boys event at the drag queen story hour is another one of those events. they are telling people that these are real-life spaces where these things are happening. they're trying to indoctrinate or groom their children of these spaces and they want to get those things shut down. >> benecol ins, as always. i commend folks to read your piece. we are always glad to have you on the show with your reporting. thank you very much. to the latest now on the pandemic and a sentence that a lot of parents have wanted to hear that we haven't been able to say until now which is this. we may now be just days away, less than a week away from the

littlest kids being able it get shots in arms to get vaccinated and that's because the cdc panel has just wrapped up a meeting on whether to green light both pfizer and moderna shots between the agency of 6 months and 5 years old. this isn't a final step and it's not a done deal. they have to meet tomorrow and there's a final vote some time midday and rochelle walensky, point being, we could be within 24 hours right now of this thing being a total go. the white house is prepping to get those shots out to kids as early as tuesday. i want to bring in nbc news medical correspondent dr. john. we know this is an issue that we've covered a lot on the show. kids under the age of 5 on this pandemic here. we're seeing this development happen in the first months, it is a significant moment. this is a very significant moment because this is the one group that's not had access to the vaccines that have been protecting a lot of the other groups here so this step forward

is very important and like you mentioned the fda advisory committee went ahead and recommended the pfizer and moderna shots. the fda commissioner signed off on that so now the emergency use authorization for this age group, the next step, as you mentioned, the cdc advisory group is meeting as we speak and we'll do the vote tomorrow to go ahead and recommend this. if they do that it's by all expectations that dr. rochelle, the head of the cdc is recommending it to go forward. starting next week, more than likely tuesday because of the holiday on monday, and this has gone up already and the shots are already available and they've gone out to different state agencies and all states have gone ahead to order those and they have situations where private doctors are trying to ask them. florida is the only state in the country, as you know that had not pre-ordered the covid vaccine. governor desantis made some

unfounded claims suggesting that it was perhaps a risky move. please give us the gut check here. this is moving through the cdc fda process to get the greenlight here. what do you say to parents about giving a child the shot if they're on the fence. >> what i would tell parents is you need to look very hard at and this is definitely a parental choice versus what covid can do, and yes, children had a certain protection from covid and they're not being affected as much as the elderly. there have been child deaths and there have been long-term covid complications and the inflammatory syndrome that's happening in children because of covid and that could be protected with the vaccine. again, i would talk to your pediatrician and talk to your family physician and say we should probably think about doing this in florida, they're not having the vaccine access through the state health department and local health

clinics will hopefully order those in the near future and probably next week and time will tell when they can get them for their children. >> dr. john torres, thank you. i know you have a busy weekend ahead of it. thanks to you for watching this hour. you have a busy week end, too. watch us @halleonmsnbc and watch us on hallie jackson now at 5:00 eastern. deadline: white house with nicole wallace starts right after this break. nicole wallace starts right after this break it was time for a nunormal with nucala. nucala is a once monthly add-on treatment for severe eosinophilic asthma that can mean less oral steroids. not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. may cause headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. ask your asthma specialist about a nunormal with nucala.

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♪♪ ♪♪ >> hi, everyone. it is 4:00 in new york. i'm ayman mohyeldin in for nicole wallace. vital to the health and safety of our democracy here. for more than a year the justice department and the january 6th select committee have worked separately, but have shared a common goal, justice. to hold accountable those responsible for the attempted coup from rank and file insurrectionists and all of the way up to perhaps donald trump himself, but in recent days, right up until this very afternoon, in fact, there were concerns about escalating tensions, friction between the two sides. earlier this week doj officials pointedly renewed a request they made of the committee back in april, regarding its refusal to turn over