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good morning. it is saturday june 18th. it is 9 am in the east and 6 am in the west. i am michael steele filling in for michael velshi. we begin with another week of stunning revelations from the january 6th committee doing a pair of public meetings on capitol hill this week. investigators share the fine details of their investigation. they showed panel clips of the trump administration to explore origins of the big lie. one of the key figures that emerged from the hearing was a
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bill barr. during his deposition, the former attorney general told the committee that he repeatedly told trump that there was no credible evidence of election fraud. >> i made it clear that i did not agree with the idea of saying that the election was stolen. i told the president this was dumb. i did not want to be a part of it. this is what led me to decide to leave when i did. >> even though a number of his own top administration officials debunked election fraud conspiracies, trump hospice persisted. weeks following the election, he lashed onto the idea that pence would be able to overturn the results of the election by choosing to certify the votes of certain states. this was an illegal plan that was spearheaded by john eastman, who also played a role in the pressure campaign to get the vice president to delay the
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certification of the 2020 presidential election. this pressure campaign and intense focus on what the vice president would do on january 6th, resulted in the violence at the capitol, led by a mob that was chanting, hang mike pence. during the hearing on thursday, pence's former white house counsel, greg jacob, testified live that eastman was aware that his plan was a legally dubious at best. >> we had an extended discussion an hour and a half to two hours on january 5th when i pressed him on the point, i said, john, if the vice president did what you are asking him to do we would lose nine to nothing in the supreme court, wouldn't we? >> he initially started saying i think you would initially lose some of the two but after further discussion acknowledge that we would lose a nine nothing. >> joining me now is jacqueline,
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a congressional investigations reporter for the washington post and she is also. on msnbc and nbc contributor. >> joining me is john hilliard, an msnbc correspondent. >> among things we learned on thursday was that john eastman is sought to be part of a pardons a list. how bad was thursday's hearing for john eastman? >> that was the bombshell of the week. john eastman put in an email to rudy giuliani that he was wondering if it was still a possibility for him to get on that part insist. we do not know what's the rest of the pardons list entailed. that being said, i think he is going to continue to be a central character, core conspirator, going forward for the rest of these hearings. eastman who was key to creating this legal life, the legal idea,
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that argued that vice president pence had the power to unilaterally overturn the results of the election. the other part that that we will see next week is the part of the plan that implemented and utilized these states to apply the pressure on state legislators to offer up different lines of electors. in order for this time to be successful, there were two parts to it. this is what we are going to hear about on tuesday. i'm curious as to see if we actually see more emails from johnny smith, since last week, a federal judge in california ruled that eastman had to turn over 400 more emails to the committee, some of which have been described to us as extremely incriminating and relevant to the committee's investigation right now. >> clearly, these hearings are having an impact. the former president a trump made on camera remarks for the first time since the january
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6th committee hearings began. let's listen to what he had to say. >> as to what happened on january 6th was a simple protest that got out of hand. most people should not be treated the way that they are being treated. if i become president a someday, if i decide to do it, i will be looking at them very seriously for pardons. >> vaughn, you have been following his reactions to these hearings. what has his demeanor been like anyone else did he say during his speech yesterday? >> these were his first on camera comments since the first public hearing more than a week ago. initially, leading up to the first public hearing where we are talking about the defense that trump would have around him. this is including gop leadership and other allies. but we are seeing over the last week is a lot of silence when we are coming to the january
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6th hearings because of the evidence in the photos that have been put forward in this committee. these are his own aides and family members out of the west wing who were there on the pivotal day that are on record and camera for everyone to hear. what you heard was and 95 minutes of exasperations by the former president. there was little denial. that is the issue. they are hard claims to deny because that are on camera. the number of people that they used to testify made it difficult for him to push back. there is a denial yesterday where they called the former vice president a win. the issues that the individual who noted to the committee was his body man, nick luna. he is the personal aid in the west wing listening to the phone call. a majority of his speech yesterday, michael, was focus on the former vice president. they called him a human conveyor belt. they argued that he did have
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the right to send back to the state legislators. this is where his arguments are difficult to ma'am. he said he never told him to overturn the reaction election. in a statement, in his own writing, donald trump wrote, quote, he could have overturned the election. that is where the meetings are so difficult. >> jacqui, the ripple effect from these hearings continues. the committee is formally asking the wife of the supreme court justice justice clarence thomas to speak. you reported that they are unlikely to ask her to cooperate in this investigation. what caused a change of heart here? >> the sudden change of heart, i believe, is the latest batch from johnny that i previously answered. david carter, who is the same federal judge, that essentially stays back there are
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coconspirator tours and say that they committed multiple crimes including to firing the american people and trying to saw halt a proceeding. emails were only turned over to the committee last week. there was about 400 of them. carter said that around ton of them were especially relevant and communications with the heart profile leader. we know that some of the emails that have been reviewed revealed jenny thomas's efforts in overturning the election. they are wider than previously known. because of that the committee is now discussing whether or not to explore the role that she played. this has to become to begin with an issue about a voluntary request. previously, i think there was a number of issues at play. there is a come meal and of -- it did not cause the majority of lawmakers to say yes, we need to bring her in.
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those were the minority. there was a fear that there could be a distraction and that because it was not enough evidence, and because jenny thomas is such a fire brain, especially at this moment in time because of who she is married to. it could trump the trump story. the evidence is really undeniable. you saw the country quickly pile in the middle of the public hearings. it is still investigation. you asked for her to come in voluntarily to speak to them. >> jacqui and von, dynamic duo this early in the morning. thank you for being with us. joining me is democratic congressman from set rhode island. he's a member of the judiciary and foreign affairs committees. he served as an impeachment manager during the second impeachment of trump. good morning, congressman. good to see you. >> good morning, good to see you. >> the committee appear to be
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laying down the groundwork that shows that at the center of the insurrection plot is donald trump himself. going forward, what element are you looking for the community to explore. i think the committee has done an extraordinary plan to lay out the set of conditions that allowed for january 16th. i love at the beginning where people were suggesting that this is a group of enthusiastic trump supporters who got out of hand. we now know that this was a financed, planned, and executed with the assistance of -- >> the committee is that this on very clear terms. both the presidents conduct and those around him devised a scheme to keep office, even though they knew it was illegal and that he had lost the election fair and square. they developed a very sophisticated scheme to keep
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power overrule the will of the american people. there's nothing as apathetic to our democracy system as this. >> during the hearings, we heard about the electoral count act and how the bill became central to eastman's plan to overthrow the election. are you planning to make that a priority we will of course mole the full report of the january six committee. we also passed a number of pro-form interviews in the bill that was passed. -- >> i hope our republican colleagues will join us in this effort. it should not matter whether you are a democrat, republican, independent, everyone has an interest in preserving our democrats to see and make sure that votes count.
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we've a part of our country that is making it hard to make it possible to vote. they are trying to have people from the secretary of state's to feel they can. -- this is why today is so critical. >> my focus and reaction to the new reporting this week. it has come to election day 2020 and january 6th. you tweeted, quote, this is completely unacceptable behavior of a spouse on the supreme court justice. justice thomas's failure to recoup cues is inexplicable. it's also worth noting that eastman climate for justice thomas. what concerns you have about this news. >> we know that the chief architect of this game to keep the president empower this not exist. >> we know that this is john eastman. there's an ongoing dialogue
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about john eastman and tell us. there is a person who led a facebook group and led to the january six committee and what they have disclosed. she is in the middle of this. what is particularly disturbing is that grace thomas was the only justice who descended from a you otherwise unanimous supreme court decision at a critical moment that require daca must be turnover to the january six committee. there is no basis to oppose this. he was the lone justice. while his wife is engaged in an effort with john eastman, he should not have been able to participate in this decision. he -- it rarely reads about the justice. we need ongoing work from the court. we need to know that they sent
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a letter to salads. i hope she takes advantage of that. ours gives all the information that they need. >> which now to the work that congress is going to pass a bipartisan lost? senators are close to a final agreement. you have another active shooter alert act that is heading to the house floor. tell us about your bill. do you believe that some people will continue to get -- >> the active shooter alert is a public thank you bill it created an amber alert system like we have for amber alerts or missing a lot from seeing seniors now we get a warning on our eyes are on our cell phone to not go into an area that will help protect law enforcement. they will have to protect committees those divisive.
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the district attorneys association which is a good public safety bill. the average rate of reduced gun violence has a lot of provisions i. hope that the senate comes to agreement that includes as much. we have to respond to the epidemic of gun violence in this country. we banned ghost guns, provide for safe storage, trafficking, high capacity magazines are illegal. we understand that we,. more our communities expect us to do something that is going to make a real difference. ifference. thank you so much for being.
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with us the war rages on in ukraine. that three americans have gone missing. president biden has been, briefed we are on the ground in kyiv with the latest. then somber juneteenth in buffalo new york. the community is still reeling after ten people were gunned down by a local at a local supermarket. the city's 47th annual june teeth and vent will honor those lives lost. and right after the break, inflation is not just hitting you and me, it is crushing small businesses across the country, as well. more on how it is affecting their bottom line. you are watching velshi, on msnbc. ...because you're crazy... ...and you like it. you get bigger... ...badder... ...faster. ♪ you can never have too much of a good thing... and power is a very good thing. ♪ you're pretty particular about keeping a healthy body.
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made an aggressive work move to cut interest rates by three quarters of a perfect santa to. point that's the biggest hike in nearly 30 years. it comes as the americans all over the country are facing the rising cost of everything from gasoline to groceries. but it's not just consumers feeling the squeeze. businesses large and small are feeling, it as well. joining me now is nbc's jesse kurdish who is live outside giant eagle grocery store in cleveland ohio. jesse, good to see you, bro. you spoke with the supermarket chief merchandiser about how in-flight felicia is affecting their business. tell us about that. >> yeah, good morning. michael they are getting pressured on two sides. so you obviously have producers of the goods that they are selling here who have had to adjust to prices.
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we know that the cost of gas has gone up. that's not just the air every day driver but it's also if you're driving a truck with all the squads. we also see consumer spending differently. he was part of what giant eagle told us. >> consumers are having to decide whether they can afford to make the trip to the grocery store in general, and that change has been the most drastic over the just the last month or two. people are moving out of buying seafood, and either going on too much more affordable categories or, for example they're moving out of before moving into chicken or pork that might be more affordable. so we are seeing migration like that. >> those are things that were echoed by a shopper our team spoke with. a woman who said she is looking at the generic items more than two with those name brands. so brand loyalty seems to be dissipating, and people making fewer trips and buying less because of this economic situation. and of course, that recent consumer price index numbers
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shows us the numbers went up, again over the last month. more than 8%. so this inflationary pressure is not going away, michael. >> nbc's jesse kirk, thank you very much. appreciate it. right after the break we are on the ground in kyiv, ukraine. americans who volunteered to fight a long time ukrainian forces have been reported missing. when we know about their whereabouts, next. know about their whereabouts, next. whereabouts, next. ♪ i'm way ahead of schedule with my trusty team ♪ ♪ there's heather on the hedges ♪ ♪ and kenny on the koi ♪ ♪ and your truck's been demolished by the peterson boy ♪ ♪ yes -- ♪ wait, what was that? timber... [ sighs heavily ] when owning a small business gets real, progressive helps protect what you've built with affordable coverage.
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confirmed that it is aware of at least three americans have been reported missing after heading to ukraine to volunteer in the war effort. new video that aired on russian tv, purports to show two of the missing men. military veterans alexandra drew key, and andy when. these are still images from the footage. nbc news has not independently verified where and when these videos were taken. the state department has confirmed that has seen the
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images but maintains that there has been no intelligence that the two men are in rustic rushing custody. on friday the president was asked about the status of the three missing americans. here is what he had to say. >> i have been briefed. we don't know where they are, but i wanted to reiterate. americans should not be going to ukraine now. i will say it again, americans should not be going to ukraine now. >> back in march, nbc news reported that an unknown number of american veterans had volunteered to fight the ukraine war despite the u.s. government asking americans to avoid the area. nbc's alice barber is in kyiv, ukraine. and has been following the story. alison, what more do we know about the status of mr. drueke and mr. when, in that third american, who is believed to be missing? >> so after the third american, the state department has not confirmed the identity of that individual.
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they will only say that they are aware that an american citizen was reported missing in recent weeks, and that that individual had come to ukraine to take up arms. russian state media, as you said, has published photos and the video allegedly showing alex tricky, and andy when in captivity. the state department has told us that they are aware of the photos and the video, and they say they are in contact with ukrainian authorities, the international red cross, as well as the families. but due to privacy considerations, they say that they are not commenting further. a couple of days ago this top spokesperson for the state department said, that they had not gotten any sort of concrete evidence, or seen anything from russian forces, to indicate these two men are in captivity. but again, he had also reiterated what we heard president biden say there, that they want any american citizen, who is in ukraine to leave if it is safe to do so. because they say it is not safe
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to be in this country right now. there are constant reminders of the war that is going on in ukraine, and in keith this morning. outside of this church, we saw yet another reminder here. 25 year old roman wrote to ski was laid to rest. or it's the start of him being laid to rest. his funeral is inside this church, he is a well name known activist from kyiv. as a 15 year old, he was involved in the revolution of dignity. so when his casket left to this church, it went to my don, independent square. the same place where as a teen, he and other students were beaten by police for protesting, then president yanukovych's decision to back away from a deal that would have brought the country closer to the eu. he made the decision to join ukrainian armed forces as soon as this latest large-scale invasion was launched. his friend say he was a freedom fighter, and that ukraine has lost a lot in his death. listen to what some of his friends told us.
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>> its main value was freedom. and i want the world to know, that ukrainians died for freedom. and they died for western values. for the values of western civilization. >> thousands of people came to pay their respects to roman rushed to sydney, he would have been 25 next. month people we spoke to, you they say this is yet another reminder of just the toll of this war. that is taking some of this the younger ukrainians and some who were there brightest hopes for the future. michael. >> thank you very much, alison. appreciate it. joining us right now is an msnbc international affairs analyst, michael. good morning.
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the three americans missing in ukraine were all volunteering in the resistance against moscow now two of them be appear to be captives by russia. how does the biden administration go back to getting them back. how do you get these soldiers home. >> it will not be easy with or vladimir putin's machine. soldiers who are fighting on behalf of the ukrainian army might have rights as a result of that. to remind everybody, there are other americans being held right now by the russian government unjustly. paul whelan, brittney griner, the wnba superstar has been held for supper several months. yesterday, mark fogle, a teacher used to teach at the anglo american school was convicted for 14 years for possessing marijuana.
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the negotiations have gone on for a year. in the case of paul whelan, it has been unresolved. the russians are not playing by normal rules of the game but with these exchanges. >> the european commission recommended that the ukraine be granted eu candidates status. the question at the top is how likely is this to happen? it will not happen overnight. how long can i take? >> first, it was incredibly important that they brought the message to kyiv. it would've been a disaster they made a different decision. formally, in needs to be ratified later in the month. all the leaders said that it is an important state to all ukrainians. they belong in europe. as you are just reporting, they fought the revolution of dignity into thousand 14 because ukrainians protested
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the decision of yanukovych to not sign a succession agreement, or association agreement with the european union. this said to your point, these things can take years or decades. it's not a done deal. it helps the government of ukraine do the necessary market reforms, democratic reforms, anti corruption reforms. it ties their hands. because they need to do in order to qualify for the eu i think it is a win-win for everyone. >> just a follow-up on that, michael, how does that, in addition to the market reforms and other things that will be on the table for change, how does this impact the war? how does this affect the position of our european hours and relevant to other managers. -- >> not directly. the war effort is separate. the war effort and president zelenskyy has sent time time
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again in his government that they need to stop putin's army from marching forward. putin's army is marching forward incrementally. they are making progress. there can be no peace negotiations instead -- until they stopped the march of that army. that is why they need more weapons, effective weapons, and they need them to be delivered more quickly to stop the advance of putin's army i want to get something that a lot of folks are scratching their hair at. today, they announced an additional billion dollars in military aid for ukraine. over the last several months, we have seen this process. it is a slow roll of support from the west that they are putting in place for ukraine. why has a take in the west so long to do this? just put it on the table. give them what they need so i think it propped protest this war as opposed to letting russia regain their footing and take the advantage.
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>> i agree. i think it is to deliver the i stop putin to be all. and we want to stop them as fast as possible. there are two factors i pay, maybe three factors. number one, up until recently, the west including the united states and the allies, have been providing old soviet material. now that has been exhausted, they are moving new kind of weapon systems. there's only so much to have open material from the world impact. number two, they are concerned about escalation. they do not want to give ukrainian weapons that could attack russia. there are other ways to achieve that fire strength needing weapons. this is a consideration the biden team has had. >> thank you very much, michael. as the country prepares to celebrate juneteenth tomorrow,
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seventh annual juneteenth festival. it will be the first one to be in person in two years. the holidays, especially for the black community in buffalo, following the gruesome mass shooting at a local grocery store just over a month ago in which ten black people were killed in a racist attack. joining me now is msnbc antonio hilton for yeah. where the juneteenth celebration will be held in just over a celebration -- an hour. what is the mood there this morning, tony. >> good morning, michael. the mood is a mix of celebration and merchants here. there's been two years since they've been able to have this festival. is also coming days after the government has been charged with a crime. this community is still reeling
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weeks after the people who have those in these kind of these. we are getting -- >> this is for community remembrance and sort of a recognition for the strength that this community, in the face of forces, like what we saw in the shooting here. this was the racist shooting that happen in buffalo. for anyone who does not have a lot of familiarity in the celebration of juneteenth, june 19th black or some -- matters to black americans united states because it represents a freedom. it represents that in 1865, enslaved people and gavel student bay and texas found out, two years after the emancipation proclamation went into effect, that they would be free. because of that, the holiday has always been a mix of
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parties, barbecues, a celebration because a freedom. there's also a status in the united states that have been fighting for freedom long past what they should have had to. there's going to be mix of celebrations in buffalo and many other parts of the united states. this is still here and very present today, as people are going to be paying respects to the ten community members who they lost, but also trying to celebrate the strength of the community and the future that they have. >> msnbc's antonia hylton. thank you so much this morning. coming up, we are awaiting the supreme court's official decision on the mississippi abortion case that is supposed to overturn roe v. wade. the fight will not end there. that is why abortion rights activists are looking for support in an unlikely place
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fight to preserve abortion rights. and as part of those efforts, they are reaching out to one group in particular we, and asking them to be more vocal act of supporters, men. for father's day this year, the abortion rights group, abortion friend produced a video, the produced that highlights why the fight for abortion rights should be left just up to. women take a listen. >> dad does so much for the family, this father's day given what he really needs. not a home brewing kit, not socks, give him safe and legal access to abortion. we hello i am neil feminist w. kamau. do you know how much i have spent on birth control my? life $213. most of them condoms that expired in my wallet. do you know much my wife spent? we >> $17,530. >> dads, if you have ever had
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sex and not have a kid, it is like birth it's likely birth control or where she played a role. we used to not have to worry about it, but nobody got pregnant from a vibrator. for that you need, a sperm in an egg. >> a sperm and an. egg >> that's right. you see, the majority of people speak seeking abortions are already parents. they know what's right for their families. they would know if having another kid would send them spiralling into poverty. >> that was comedian and award-winning host, w. kamau bell featured in that clip. when we come back, i'm going to stop to him and the founder of the abortion access front liz winsted about dads for choice, and the role of men in the fight for abortion rights. in the fight for abortion rights. you try crazy things... ...because you're crazy... ...and you like it. you get bigger... ...badder... ...faster. ♪ you can never have too much of a good thing...
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comedian and host of the award winning series united states of america. and liz winds dead, the founder and chief creative officer of an abortion advocacy group. she is also the co-creator of the daily show and host of the podcast, feminist bug skills live. welcome to you both. it is great to have you. so liz, let's start with you. why was it important for you important to produce this videoing campaign for men to become more involved in the fight for abortion rights? >> well, i have to say, i give
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credit all around because, i was approached by an incredible person jean shealy ahmaud spa and kamau who wanted to do this video but we have been doing a campaign because truth be told, when you look at historically how patriarchy a white supremacy has played a role, you know think about the fact that women couldn't have a credit card. husbands could make medical decisions, could commit women to asylum's, you know, and so for years i think we just rejected men weighing in. and i think with this video just so beautifully is, a uses humor to show dads and sussman, how much they have benefited from both birth control abortion, but also to change the narrative of control and intervention to a narrative of men having solidarity with us. men saying we are invested in your life and your full
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potential, and i just love that they want to do it and they came to us without us having to ask. so thank you kamau, and josh, and adam >> you know come out, that raises a very interesting point for me. because if somebody stands on the other side of this conversation, i have always believed that the piece it was missing was man. it always seems to put the weight, the burden, whether it's the pro-life side of the pro-choice side, on women. and so prior to working with abortion access and making this video, was there ever a time when you thought this wasn't your fight, this wasn't your battle, and what is your message to other men now who may still have that apprehension about engaging in the subject. >> i mean, i do think that the apprehension for men's normally on my side, as you say on your side i think men often do you weigh in and tell women what to do with their bodies. so i would say on the side of the aisle, men often feel like
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they don't need to get into conversation because there are activists, there are women doing the battle. and i learned a long time ago from my wife, and from my, mom and friends of mine. i live in a place called the bay area of california, that we all have to battle for everybody's rights. that we don't let one group battle for their, rates and another group battle for their rights. there's good work to be done, and we all have to get involved in that good trouble, as a very wise man once. that >> yeah, liz the point made in the video is the huge discrepancy between how much women spend over control compared to white men spend. what else do you think mentioned know about the burdens that women face in terms of reproductive health ? >> i mean, i think that there is, it is not just even with the doctor's appointments, it is the constant weight of what it means to be an emancipated person in this country. we have to carry that every day. and as we wait for roe v. wade
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to, which is 99.9% sure going to be overturned, sharing the solidarity around defending the humanity of what we go through. just because we have the ability to bear children, doesn't mean that we have the means, or even though walter desire to do so. or if people already have kids, as the video also points out. so really, most people who are seeking abortions are already parents. and so, when people look at the scope and totality of their lives, and look at their own capacities, and people want to be the best parents they can be. and we should honor that, and the problem i think so much in this country as that we don't value pregnancy outcomes at all. if there is a 16 year old that is pregnant, and says my value system says i want to have this kid, we don't provide resources for that person to thrive and
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raise a child in a healthy environment. and conversely, a 35-year-old says, i have kids, i can't afford another one. we don't value that person's decision to have an abortion so that they can have and raise the healthy family that they know they can with their capacities. and so, we need to look at this holistically, and in a larger picture. and i feel like we never do. it is like, we center on pregnancies as though they are whole people, and we never center the people who are going through the experience and harm. and i'm just so thankful that camel, and so many men, are coming forward now and saying you know what we need to stand with you. because just like white folks need to fight racism, because they started it, dues that have been controlling within this whole time, need to step up and say yeah we kind of messed up and we allowed all these monster men on the other side to control your bodies and we want to stand with you and say that it is a fight that will
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prioritize. >> well, it is interesting kamal, liz touches on an interesting idea around the misconceptions that exist in the space. as you said earlier in the clip, the majority of people seeking abortions are already parents. and a lot of people don't realize that. do you think people still have the reasons that they need, and understanding those reasons really are that individuals have when they seek out an abortion, and they're seeking the help that they desire at that moment? we >> i mean let's be clear, the majority of the country supports reproductive rights. the majority of the country supports roe v. wade. the majority of the country, especially in the left side, isn't engaged in the. fight i've been very privileged in my life where i have been to jackson mississippi, i met i went to the jackson women's health center to see these stories are close. and it virtually in america, so many times, and that's an issue
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touches you think you know all about it even if you know nothing about it. so for me, it is about sharing information. i didn't know this stat about that people who are pregnant were seeking abortions i -- don't know that either. and i would just say men, if you believe in a person's right to choose, and reproductive rights, then you have to get to the fight or you can just do like me, have some kids and then get up a sack to me in the needed to worry about it anymore. that is the choice that my wife presented to me. >> well, there is that. there are always options, right. liz winds dead, and w kamau all, thank you both and happy father's day to you come. all appreciate. you before we go, a quick programming. note tonight be sure to watch an encore presentation of four seasons, total documentary. a film that delves into rudy giuliani's infamous press conference at four seasons total landscaping delivered just as the 2020 election was being called for joe biden. that is tonight, at 10 pm
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