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msnbc world headquarters, here in new york. welcome everyone to alex with reports. developing this, our the generates committee is preparing for two more public hearings in the coming. week georgia secretary of state, binds raffensperger, and his top deputy gabriel sterling will testify today the committee focuses on donald trump's effort to overturn joe biden's 2020 victories, in georgia, and other swing states. earlier today, u.s. capitol police officer harry dunn, described to msnbc his feelings on wet has been revealed so far. >> the hearings and everything, they are bringing out a lot of what emotions, but it also is bringing out a lot of facts. so we had our opinions about what happened, everybody thought oh we know at this is about, we know it happened. but being able to actually have this confirmed through these hearings, it is like i feel a

little bit vindicated from the way that i don't. >> meanwhile, former president trump showing very little remorse over the events of january 6th, as he gave his first remarks since the hearings began. donald trump doubling down on his defense of the capital rioters. >> as to what happened on january 6th, it was a simple protest that got out of hand. most people should not be treated the way they are being treated. and if i become president someday, if i decide to do it, i will be looking at them very seriously for pardons. very very seriously. with >> a new reaction today, as president biden prepares to visit saudi arabia next month. the president downplaying reports in the meeting with crown prince mohammed bin salman, saying it he is not going to be meeting with him. but that he will be part of the meeting he is attending. next last hour, democratic congressman -- he told me how he wants to see president biden approach. this >> but he ought to do is,

he should make it clear that mbs needs to lift the blockade, he needs to understand that the saudis have lost that war. he needs to and that were before the president meets with. him but he shouldn't meet with and boston anyway, even in a conference, without that commitment. >> joining us right now, missy's ali raphael, with the new developments on the january 6th committee's request for testimony from ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. okay, this is big news. so why, ali, is the committee asking her to speak to them now? >> yeah, alex, well the washington post was versus reported on thursday that the january 6th committee had evidence that ginni thomas, and former trump attorney john eastman, were exchanging emails. eastman being the man that that committee really laid out damning evidence against during thursday's hearing. saying that he was the creator of the conspiracy to use pence to overturn the results of the 2020 election. saying that he had acknowledged

that it would be unconstitutional, illegal, saying he even requested a presidential pardon. after january 6th. so committee chairman, benny thompson, said after thursday's hearing, that the committee has sent a letter to jim eaten since expressing the committees interesting with her. she later reacted to that issuing a statement to the conservative outlet, the daily caller, saying that she quote, is looking forward to speaking to them, and quote can't wait to clear up misconceptions. and alex, they're likely interested in figuring out like what her level of kim connection to eastman was, and his efforts to overturn the election, and whether her husband, justice clarence thomas, was it all aware or involved in this. remember, he was the lone dissenting opinion in a supreme court case about whether to give trump white house documents to the committee for this investigation. congressman david cicilline, had a little bit to say about this, on our air last. our listen here.

>> we know that the chief architect of this illegal scheme to keep the president in power, and give some sort of legal basis which of course didn't exist, was john eastman. and we know that, there was an ongoing dialogue between john eastman and ginni thomas, who was a strong advocate for overturning the election, and was the person who was -- that was john eastman. and that series of text messages that the january 6th committee has already disclosed, she is right in the middle of this. >> now we know ginni thomas has really been a fixture in conservative politics for decades. we know that she advised president trump, during his four years in office. but her role between election day and january 6th, it's still pretty vague. we have just seen some leaked text messages, evidence and part of the committee's investigation, between her and former white house chief of staff mark meadows. urging him to continue pushing their election results, but

really nothing that leads to a certain level of culpability. meanwhile, eastman also issuing a statement on thursday, saying he can quote, confirmed that at no time did i discuss with mrs. thomas, or justice thomas, any matters pending or likely to come before the court. we have never engaged in such discussions, would not engage in such discussions, and did not do so in december 2020 or anytime else. he added that his emails with her were in regards to a quote, update about election litigation, to a group she met with periodically. so there is a lot still to learn here. one thing we are still trying to figure out is when exactly ginni thomas, and the committee, will meet. and this kind of adds to what we talked about last hour, how the committee is still meeting with witnesses. she could possibly have a missing piece to the puzzle, here in the committee's investigation. >> yeah, i guess they're going to dig in and find. out ali graph, and thank you so. much for joining me right, now harry lippman. he is a former u.s. attorney and was deputy assistant attorney general in the committee clinton

administration. he is our host of the talking beds podcast. harriet, welcome back. we had the last, weekend so here we go. again if ginni thomas does in fact testify, as she had suggested that she might, what kind of information do you think she could provide specific to this investigation? >> they were treating her very gingerly before a couple of days ago, but what happens as, they keep turning over rocks and there is ginni thomas again. ginni thomas, in the campaign with arizona, ginni thomas talking to mark meadows, ginni thomas talking to eastman. i don't think it has anything to do anymore with justice thomas, and in any event, she won't be forthcoming about those conversations. but they want to know about her in her own right, and also that she can get them information, especially about eastman and meadows and the overall efforts, including but they are going to turn to tuesday about the pressure campaign on the states. >> harry, does this mean the

clarence thomas has to recuse himself of any kind of issues related to what has come before the supreme court? >> hasse too is always in quotes, because he decides for himself, and it is under the standard of would a reasonable person think that he couldn't be impartial. they have been, as we have just heard, she has been a cultural warrior sort of picture on the right. he has been with her too. but i don't think we will see him recusing from anything having to do with january 6th. and his reasoning will be, i can still be fair, and nobody could take issue. unless there is something that directly involves her, evidence involving her, et cetera. then i think he would step aside, but a blanket refusal for january six, we won't see. it >> okay, so these are hearings as you know, they shed some light on how rioters view the former vice president's decision not to overturn the election results in general sixth. let's take a look at this.

>> i'm telling you what, i'm hearing that pence, i'm hearing that pence just caved. >> no. >> is that true? i'm hearing reports that pence caved. and i'm telling you, if pence caved, we are going to drag mother backers through the street. you -- politicians are going to get drunk through the streets. we i guess the hope is that there is such a show of force here, that pence will decide to do the right thing according to trump. we >> hang him. out >> hang out. pence >> hang him out. >> hang out. pence >> so let's connect the dots here, because clearly the crowd is angry that pence did not heed trump's calls. but the committee showed the former president and his lawyer, john eastman, knew their theory that pence had the authority to overthrow the election, wouldn't stand up in court. it was rejected by white house attorneys, completely rejected, and yet they still pressured pence to do trump's bidding. does this rise to criminal behavior? >> yeah, i think so.

and i think it is part of the overall one series of crimes that they could charge him with. but i do want to connect these dots. because, check this out, against the ivanka trump and the call with trump. so in the morning, they have this, when everyone calls a heated call. he is furious, he calls him a wimp. he calls him worse, he's at that made a mistake four days ago. they pence absolutely tells him i to do this, then trump goes out to the crowd in pretense. he's as well, it is all up to pence. if he does it, then we are okay. otherwise, i will be very disappointed. he knows that pence has already decided, but keeping it open like that is designed to induce the murderous rage in the crowd, when they do you find out. and then it is as a surprise that absolutely inflames them. and we have testimony that we have heard from the doj, that

it was no joke. they were ready to tear him limb from limb. so trump placed this dishonestly in such a way to wrap the crowd up, to its maximum level of violence. really sinister. >> yeah, it's like he was setting up his own vice presidents. i mean it is sinister to say the least. >> that's exactly what he. was >> doing exactly, you're. right >> not for mayhem, but determined from. limits no joke, it's as dark as it gets. >> well we saw the gallows that were constructed, meaning this is. where >> but we still don't know who constructed. those >> true. here is something else that was really interesting. this is from white house lawyer lawyer eric herschmann who testified that he warned john eastman that his plot to overturn this election, it was illegal, it was dangerous, and here is what he recounted of that conversation. listen to this. >> i said you are gonna turn around until 78 plus million

people in this country that you your theory is that this is how you are going to validate their votes, because you think the election was stolen? so you are going to cause riots in the streets. and he said, words to the effect of, there has been violence in the history of our country in order to protect the democracy or pack protect the republic. >> so does this tell you that eastman knew his plot to overturn the election could lead to violence, and if so, what could the legal ramifications be of this particular testimony? >> it does, and it could. this could get as far as a conspiracy. but, eastman is a obscure guy in california. this is going to be the same story that we hear on thursday with jeff clark. trump, everybody around him, the people are still with him saying you can't do this, there is no legal basis, or at the big lie is a big lie. and he finds some sort of

nonentity as his classic file c and barman. eastman gets to go out and give a big speech, and grabs the crowd, and you know he is someone who all the sudden is in front of the president of the united states, and leading the charge. and of course it is trump, just manipulating his ambition, as trump's want to do. and of course, trump makes the steel but now is, as herschmann said at the, and you better get a damn good criminal before vance lawyer. he is absolutely looking at criminal liability, and we know he knows it because a, he asked for a pardon and be, he took the fifth 150 times. it is almost pathetic how trump manipulates these two guys, you know mediocrity, i'm sorry to use the term, ambition to do his bidding when nobody else. well he latches on to them, finds them, makes them we and they are both looking at jail. time >> trump totally played, then that's the bottom.

len >> yes. >> so harry, litman thank you so. much always good to talk. to you and having these hearings been absolutely -- on tv, and to all of you tomorrow at this time we are going to re-air three days hearing and its entirety. they'll begin at 1 pm eastern, right here on msnbc. they're now to tell whether alert. 20 million americans are under heat alerts this weekend, as dangerous temperatures are starting in from the northern plains, to the southeast. let's go to nbc squad been agus who is joining us from los angeles. so lots of heat to talk about. do you see where they're actually intensifying. >> alex, we saw the effects of the heat wave that took place during the week, as you said it is intensifying. so we now have that number you just gave out. about 28 million people this morning under this extreme heat alert. that goes if you look at the map from the north plains all the way across the midwest, as far south as florida. this is the area where people are going to be experiencing the hottest temperatures.

in some places they can hear the heat index at about 100 degrees. it for people who are used, to that every degree after hundred agrees feels extremely. hot now we cite earlier in the week but it cost in kansas. there is the video of ranchers that lost cattle, millions of dollars in the office, and this horrific video of cows that had died because of that extreme heat. meanwhile, we had a week with stream storms as well. in yellowstone we had a combination of that storms, and the snow melt, creating all of this flooding. that flooding also being seen in other parts of the country. in michigan, and ohio, some of the flooding damaged power lines. this class people in places and ohio to be without power, as the heat came after those storms. 150, 200 customers in ohio throughout the week at some point were affected by these outages. and of course it creates a lot of frustration, because it is during the heat that people need to use their power. we are going to hear from a climate scientist who is explain exactly why we see these outages, during the

waves. >> one of the great challenges that we have one of the great challenges is we have widespread nationwide here waves is that what no region is going untouched. it is across cities who are home to hunch hundred are tens of thousands of people. the need for air conditioning and fueling in these waves is real, to prevent a severe health outcomes. >> when you think about the health outcomes, it is not just people who need air conditioning. this is something that we have seen in the past in california, in the west part of the country, where we deal with a lot of heat waves. there's also a lot of people who need machines for medical reasons we cannot use them during heat waves. of course, public health officials will always tell people to be careful under these results. for people who live under places like in california or arizona, they are used to these temperatures.

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inflation worldwide, threatening vulnerable countries with a severe food shortages, we have to work together to mitigate the fallout from this crisis. and the united states, i am using every lever lever available to me to bring down prices for the american people. >> president biden on friday addressing concerns from u.s. consumers, some struggle to pay for basic necessities. inflation is hitting the country hard with prices soaring on everything from gas to groceries. msnbc's josie jesse is in ohio. what are you hearing from folks there about how much inflation is affecting them every day? >> yeah, alex. obviously, people are getting hit across the board. it groceries and gas are two things that people are powering paying for weekend and week out. it seems like it is something that resonated with the sharp shopper. the overall picture from the shopper side and the management

side of the grocery chain, the original grocery chain of die due eagle. they are seeing that the customers are moving away from seafood, from beef to pork or shaken. people are making changes to their habits. here is what one shopper and representatives from giant evil told us when we asked them to talk to us about it. >> i think twice before i pick up anything nowadays. we are on a budget, more than i used to. it hurts the wallet, just my everyday routine. >> fuel inflation became painful for our consumers. now we have to decide if they can make the process story in general >> of course that ties in with gas prices, alex. we are at $5 for national gas leader at nationwide.

-- >> this is not just something that factors into the customer coming here. we have to get the produce here. we have to get the goods here to sell them. we know that diesel costs have been going up as well. this is pressure on all sides of the equation. people are certainly making different choices when they may get to the grocery store weekend and week out. people are shopping for a barbecue and they are going to do something different to cook this year. >> dads don't deserve to be short changed. this is a bummer. you have to do what you gotta do. all right, jesse, thank you for that. let's bring in linette lopez a columnist for business insider. let's get right into it. during the interview with the associated press on thursday, the president assured the public that this does not mean a recession is inevitable, despite warnings from economists. what are the tangible effects of a recession. what would it mean to the average american? >> there is a technical

definition of a recession. gdp shrinks two quarters in a row. that is for the scientists and the economist. americans are already feeling the fact that there is a lot of pressure on their spending. what wall street is really worried about right now is in the future the inflation has spread to the services sector, not just in the gaps you put in your car that gets your food to the destination, or the guys that is in a flight you decide to take because you are stuck at home and stuck there for two years, but people are afraid that this has corrupted wages. whatever happened, going forward in the economy, costs are going up. wages are going up. this is a wage spiral. this does not have to happen. it may not have happened. we do not know yet. we have to look more at the data for a few more quarters or a few more months.

while biden is trying to say is we are slowing the economy, not to the point that it gets deep in there and really into wages and driving costs up for consumers and businesses. it could happen, it could not happen. we do not know yet. >> you agree with the president that a recession is not inevitable? >> no, it is not inevitable. americans, when you look at the consumer feeling indicators, we feel awful. i totally understand why americans feel awful. we have had a pretty rough time. i think this is something that biden needs to communicate more. we are in hard times. we are still in hard times, even though the pandemic is over. even though it is not necessarily our fault, these are the times that we write about in history books. this is when things are scarce and we need to pull together. i know he is trying to do everything that he can, but at a certain point you have to

tell the american people straight. this is going to be tough. it is going to be tough for a minute before we clear out. there is, hope in certain sectors of the economy, that we are impacted by the economy. auto sales, we are trying to get those supply chains on track. part of the problem there is that china is still getting shut down. this is because they have not vaccinated or getting their arms around the pandemic. there are a lot of factors that are outside the presidents control. we are just living through some real interesting times. >> yeah, for sure. let me ask you about the housing market. it has grabbed a lot of headlines. these may be fueling recession concerns. some of these headlines, let's hear about forbes housing market in free fall. bloomberg, mortgage surge towards 6% and slams brakes on red house housing market. cbs, the housing market is in a downturn. the red hot housing market line,

was the housing market in a need of adjustment and what does this mean for homeowners and home buyers? >> i am a millennial. i do not own anything. i think that the red hot housing market needed to cool down. if you are in a boomer and a different position -- >> you get is going to retirement. >> exactly. different markets benefited different people at different stages of the economy. there is something certain, inflation does not necessarily help anyone. wage increases, a price increases, it definitely hurts the poorest in our communities. as a millennial, i have been looking for to the housing crash. understood. i totally get why. i want to go to stock market and go over a recent article you wrote. you said wall street is facing a sour pell that could just be started. you said that and lest you are a seasoned practitioner you

avoid looking at your 401k until next year. we do not know where the bottom is. we do not know what's going to happen next. if this is just the beginning, linette, how long does this last? >> we need to separate what is going on on wall street and what is going on on main street. sometimes they reflect each other but not all the time. wall street is now paying the piper for years of low interest rates and the funding of a lot of dumb businesses that mid to the stock market. a lot of them, especially in the tech sector, a lot of them in the tech center are dragging us down. we have to add on top of that the uncertainties about the market, war in russia, rising cost of fuel. all of this is mixed in. when you really look at what has been going down on the stock market, you have to really consider that rising interest rates are the most important driver right now. they are a force of gravity pulling the stock market up and

down. this is for as long as interest rates are going up. >> linette lopez with business insider. thank you so much for joining us. we are going to bring up this breaking use as they have approved a pfizer and moderna vaccines for children under the age of five. this is the last age group to become eligible. it makes up roughly 18 million or so americans. moderna shot, that is two doses. they are one month apart. pfizer's vaccine will be three doses, the first two are three weeks apart, with the third dose administered two months later. they could be available as soon as tuesday. this confession comes 13 -- one day after the fda's resulted in a similar function. we are standing by on this speak news. we have a rheumatologist from the center. natalie, it has been a long process.

it has taken months to get agencies to sign off on vaccines for younger kids. how critical is this in the battle to contain covid? well, it is historic and it certainly is critical, alex. the last two days, the cdc, and before that the fda's advisory committee, went through a slew of data. really, so that they can feel comfortable pending this authorization. and the data is just definitely striking. we have had tens of thousands of hospitalizations in this age group, and hundreds of deaths in this age group, alex. from what they say now, and they are categorizing as a vaccine preventable illness. they were very clear that they were emphasizing that they are recommending this vaccine. they took a little bit of an issue with fda's wording that said that parents now have a choice. of course parents to have a choice, this isn't mandatory. but they were very clear that they wanted to send the message that they are recommending this as one of many primary series

of vaccines. they affirmed the safety, efficacy, and taller ability, and they made a special point, alex, to make sure that this is communicated effectively to parents. in many surveys, parents have stated that they aren't sure about the safety and efficacy, and so they're really calling on the child's health care provider durr's, pediatricians, to be that point person to have a conversation with parents so that they feel good about having their kids vaccinated. >> give me what you are going to tell apparent to its hesitant about getting a young child vaccinated. we >> i am going to, and i have been counseling. we have been down to age five with pfizer for a long time, and parents are concerned. and i speak to them both as a provider and it's apparent, and i say to them i understand. that you calibrate your risk very differently when it comes to something you do for yourself, versus something to do with your child. and i think the data really speaks for itself.

covid-19 illness, in children, can be devastating. even if they don't die, alex, they can suffer significant consequences. for multi system inflammatory syndrome, to even the trauma of being hospitalized. and you know, especially for this young, particularly vulnerable age group where rsv is a significant concern, as well as influenza, these young kids don't have to kind of immunity that even we get as we get older. because they just haven't lived quite as long. so i usually council, in that regard. but it really is about listening, and taking the time to have that conversation, and i know i am a busy provider. it is not always easy to find that time, but you really do need to do it. >> okay. doctor natalie azar, i'm glad you are on the case. thank you my friend, appreciate. that meantime, ivanka and january 6th. did she have a bad feeling about it? even before the rally started? trump's biographer joins me. nexttrump's biographer joins me. next

more now on the january six committee hearings, and the questions about donald trump's fundraising tactics. >> as the select committee has demonstrated, the trump campaign knew this climb claims of voter fraud were false, yet they continue to barrage small donors emails encouraging them to devote donate to something called the official election defense fund. the select committee discovered no such fund existed. >> i don't believe there is actually a fund called the election committee defense. but >> claims that the election was stolen were so successful, president trump and his allies raise $250 million. nearly 100 million dollars in the first week after the election. >> stunning numbers there. joining me right, now timothy o'brien, senior columnist with bloomberg opinion an msnbc political analyst. also author of the book, trump nation, the art of being the donald. which he calls the definitive biography of the former president. tim, welcome back to the broadcast. good to see you.

so what have you learned about this, where did this money come from, and where does it go? >> what we know where it came from, it came out of the wallets of small donors. it came out of i think individuals who were buying the trump grift that the election was fraudulent, that the election had been stolen from him, and although he is a purported billionaire, he knew that their help in order to afford to pay lawyers and contest that election in the courts. and i think that he was probably as surprised as anybody that he raised as much money asieh did, as quickly as he did. i think that was a learning process for him, as well. but of course wants donald trump discovers you can make cash quickly, of a grift, he is not want to step away from him. and i think the question now is less about where the money came from, although if it came from foreign sources that should be looked at. it is, how has it been dispersed? and he is not free to just

spend that money on non campaign, and non-electoral expenses. and people should remember, donald trump and his business life, has an enormous amount of debt hanging over his business. around about a billion dollars. and he has been in businesses that have been really pummeled by covid-19, particularly urban commercial real estate. and travel and leisure. you know results and golf courses. >> so hang out a second time, are you saying that donald trump took that money, under the guise of campaign, or stop the steal, or however he encouraged small donors to give it to him, and he can do anything he wants with it, or maybe not can but has done anything he wants with it? >> well, we don't know. it would be legal if he used it to say, retire or all of, to partially retire some of the doubt that is hanging over his business. he can't use it for things like that. and we don't know how he is using it, because the ftc

apparently, hasn't bother to dig into this take a close look. so perhaps, they suggested that security general that she's gonna look at it. but we just don't. now >> here's a, question if he has yet to officially declare his candidacy, i mean, once it's official obviously all of the bells and whistles, all the rules and everything applies. are you saying that this has applied, with nearly intimating that he is going to run again? >> yeah, i mean he just cannot. that money has to be used for the purposes around which it was rates. and if he is going to use it in other arenas, it has to be used for political, slash campaign, slash electoral uses. you can't use of business purposes. and i think that we need to know how the money has been used. right now, only a very tiny portion of it has been accounted for. >> yeah, okay. i want to talk to you about the phone call between trump and

pence on the morning of january 6th. and specifically the concerns expressed by ivanka trump. let's take a look. >> when i entered the office, the second time, he was on the telephone with who i later found out to be the vice president. it was a different tone than i had heard him take with the vice president before. >> did miss trump share with you any more details about what had happened or any details about what have happened in the oval office that morning? >> that her dad had just had an upsetting conversation with the vice president. >> i apologize for being in polite, but you remember what she said her father called him. >> the p-word. >> actually stunning, when you reflect on this. this was a conversation between a president and vice president of the united states. however, a question to you, do you get a sense from her testimony that ivanka had a bad feeling about january 6th, even before the rally at the ellipse? >> absolutely.

we know from other accounts of what she did that day that she honored the fact that mike pence was resisting donald trump's pressure to decertify the electoral results on january 6th at the capitol. and then she obviously was in the oval office with several other campaign advisers, including lawyers, who heard him swearing at mike pence, who heard him grow increasingly angry at mike pence, because mike pence wouldn't do a donald trump wanted him to do, which was to break the law. and what is significant to, that we have learned in the hearings thus far, is that donald trump at that point knew it was illegal. eastman had told him it was illegal. they had also, there are other people in the white house who said that the play was couldn't quite muddy. it was crazy. so it was not only lacking in visibility, it was illegal. and yet he continues to pressure mike. mike pence, to break the law. and he did so in front of a

number of witnesses. including his daughter. >> so, i want to get your latest column for bloomberg, tim. in which you say that trump and his allies will be january 6th if necessary. citing the warning that donald trump and his allies are clear present injure to american democracy. house of the 2024? threat >> because i think as judge let it correctly surmised, donald trump's allies have used a tissue of lies and illegalities and degrees to try to overturn the 2020 election results. they were not successful. but as he said, he has no doubt that they are going to try to get in 2024, and that that is a threat to democracy, and to the republic. and i think judge lennox testimony a significant because,

he has blue chip conservative bona fee days, he was a mentor to ten cruise, and to eastman. donald trump's own lawyer. he was an appointee, he was a bush appointee to the court. he is how they are regarded, and he has someone during assassin money who is clearly i think almost pained jumped off of the testimony he did. but what he said was significant. that this group of people are a clear and present danger, and that we have been warrant. if we don't do it we need to do to secure democracy, we are going to have problems. >> yeah, i will suggest everyone read your article. your commentary there, because you give an extraordinary example of the 1993 world trade center bombing, and that which happens later. i was stunned actually, that's the end of. it folks should read. that very quickly, a yes no answer here. have you seen any evidence of crimes that links donald trump to that action, criminal action? >> absolutely, yes. >> okay, well thank you for ending just on that note.

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happening. last hour i was smiling. there is a level of joy being expressed even in the face of concerns about their safety today. >> of course, alex. this is a community that is still in mourning. we had families with second thoughts about whether they would feel safe coming here today. they thought that a large number of black people in public would be a large target for a gunman. it is a celebration of life, celebration of strength, people have been dancing, cooking food, sororities, fraternities performing, young kids who have been out with their families celebrating all day. as you can see, it feels a lot like a party right now. people say to me, alex, is that it was important for them to still come. they wanted to show that he would not wind. this gunman, who is facing hate crime charges, who is facing murder charges, has lost. what he wrote in his manifesto

is not going to make this community cower in fear. take a look at this. take a listen to one of the conversations i had with a family and a group of friends who are here today. >> i think we are healing. it is going to be a process. the one thing that the community has been doing is pulling together. we are taking one day at a time. we are hoping where assistance is needed. we are doing things as we see the need, basically. >> has it changed the meaning of juneteenth for you at all? >> i think so. this year means a lot to people more than ever. again, as i said earlier, it is a coming together. we have not been able to for obvious reasons. with all of these things happening, absolutely. it is almost like a statement.

>> and now, alex, governor kathy hochul, who is part of the parade a little while ago, and the mayor of buffalo, have announced a 50 million dollar investment on the east side. measures to help people who are in a food desert situation now that the top's, the grocery store where the shooting took place, is not functional for the community. they also announced a memorial commission. it will not only memorialize and celebrate the ten lives that were lost that they, but also memorialize the hard work that the community has done to come together and to show strength in the gray face of a racist and violence. >> antonia hylton, thank you so much, of from buffalo. would have been to a leading republican yesterday showed why a bipartisan agreement on gun restrictions may be nearly impossible. uh, how come we don't call ourselves bikers anymore? i mean, "riders" is cool, but "bikers"...is really cool.

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on the other side saying goes too far. what is important is this is a bill. this package is all about policies that do not affect constitutional rights and will save lives. this is about the joining of the two. i am less interested in the extremes and more interested in protecting everyone, which i think is something that we can all agree on. >> you would think so. let's take a look at the potential sticking points. this include, due process for red flag laws, addressing juvenile records for background checks, and then clause closing the boyfriend loophole. how critical are these two gun advocates? are they dealbreakers? >> i think some are dealbreakers if they are not included. closing the boyfriend loophole has been something that we included for a number of years that to ensure that domestic partners or boyfriend girlfriends are treated the same way as married couples. this will help with domestic violence and domestic violence by firearm. the extreme risk protection orders are significant in terms

of temporarily restricting access to firearms of those who aren't crisis who is considering suicide, or harm to others. there is judicial due process for that. in return, they can have the firearms returned when they are not in a crisis. again, this is about saving lives. i think if we do not have elements of both gun safety and mental health in their, then we would not have a bill that we could all agree with. this is a complex problem. it is a multi faceted package. it needs everything in there in order to be agreed on and to be passed into law. >> sandy hook promise, your organization, says it is taking steps that stopped nine potential school shootings. what steps can schools take right now, even before gun reforms are passed? >> there's a lot we can do in our schools and communities that do not require federal legislation. we teach students and adults around them on how to recognize signs of someone who might be

going into crisis, who is a threat to themselves. it is similar to the extremist protection orders but it is really around education by using the trust an adult or a reported system. by this alone, we have been -- students are hearing and seeing what is around them and alerting on social media, they could tell someone and alert our system so we could take action. >> are you confident this will pass and when? >> i'm always more confident than not. i believe that this is something that we all want to happen and all we -- and we need to happen. we need to make this pass. every time it does not get done, more people die. we need to take the step now. i know there are people out there who are going to boo senator cornyn. he is a strong leader and knows that this is something that will save lives. to not listen to the noisy side of one argument who tend to be noise or than the others.

it is to focus on what is best for his constituents and the people of america. between him, as senator murphy, senator blooming fall, it is going to pass. i am hopeful that it will go to a vote next week before they go to recess. i think this is a critical timing that we are looking at right now. can we get the verbiage that everyone can agree with before next week? >> always a pleasure, nicole. thank you so much. according to the gun violence archive, the number of mass shootings has reached 271 this year. another 15 with the deadly toll since last week. 39 mass shootings this month. it steals a 49 lives. for the year, 309 people have been killed with mass shootings. this is going to do it for my addition on alex witt reports. i will see you again tomorrow at noon eastern. my friend yasmin continues this coverage. what do you want to give back? what do you want to be remembered for?

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hey everybody, good afternoon. it is good to see you, i'm yasmin vossoughian. at this hour we are taking a special look at this week's dramatic january six committee hearings. in the spotlight, jim john eastman, a lawyer paneling legal theory that mike pence could see single-handedly overturn the results of a presidential election. a theory rejected outright by the vice president, and everybody around him. >> there