have new episodes on the msnbc hub every monday and tuesday. also, hit me up on social media, y'all. you can find highlights and news about exciting things in the works for the show on instagram, twitter and tiktok. right now, i would like to hand things over to my good friend reverend sharp. reverend, i'm very much so looking forward to senior story today. so looking forward to senior stor today. thank you as always come out, happy father's day to sean, from reverend. all good evening, welcome to politics nation. on this father's day and this juneteenth weekend, tonight's lead freedoms struggle. ♪ ♪ ♪

right now, the nations in the midst of reflection, the second federal observation of the black freedom struggle, expressed by the holiday known as juneteenth. it comes at the start of a potentially dizzying news cycle. starting this week, as the senate holds out hope that a tenuous bipartisan deal, on guns cannot get a quick vote. while the momentum is there after weeks of mass shootings. and one bracing for the supreme courts spending public to take decision on the future of the federal abortion rights, to come down within days. as the white house weighs its options to protect those rights, possibly through executive order. and then there's what will be the third week of public hearings in the congressional probe into january six. the next round, centering on

donald trump's pressure campaign put it election officials in georgia. to overturn the 2020 election results in that. state and we're also waiting a hard confirmation that ginni thomas, wife of supreme court justice, clarence thomas, will indeed testify before the house select committee for her own efforts to undermine that election results. lots to cover, let's get started. joining me now, congresswoman sheila jackson lee, democrat of texas and a member of the house judiciary committee. congresswoman, thanks for being with us tonight. happy juneteenth to you in your constituents in houston, of course, i want to get to this national observance of our freedom struggle, but i have to start with january six, the next hearing on tuesday, will

center on the testimony of georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, his top deputy gabriel sterling, raffensperger of course has been pressured by former president donald trump to quote, find the additional votes he needed to win the state in 2020. from your view, as a member of the house judiciary committee, what do you expect to hear congresswoman? >> happy juneteenth, reverend, and happy father's day. as a veteran of three impeachments, i believe that what the american people lot is accountability. and what i have heard, is a block by block presentation, of the certain major actions of one person, who led others, donald j trump, to stop the peaceful transfer of power, to perpetrate potential threats to

his life, of the vice president of the united states. never had it done before in least in 20th century. and to lead others, even though they are being prosecuted, many have testified in video, in their own trials, that they came to washington, at the encouragement and direction of the van existing president, to in essence, overthrow, stop, and injure members of congress to avoid the peaceful transition of government. they need to have accountability. >> let me bring this up, congresswoman, the senate's bipartisan deal on guns, we've had mass shootings here in texas, where you represent. they crafted disagreement after the shootings in buffalo, and in uvalde right there in texas, and it appears to be a question democrats and republicans at odds, largely over the question

of gun rights for those with histories of domestic abuse. then in the house, i've read some house democrats, progressives, are disheartened not but just by one bully be in this compromise bill, but focus on walls -- bolstering school security, with some progressives think may have negative consequences, with more policing in minority and low income schools. where do you come down on all of this, congresswoman? >> reverend, i believe we need to start the carnage, all that i have in the back of my mind is a visit i made to uvalde, to be able to give comfort but also to talk about what the next steps are, and spending time hugging families, children that were nine, ten, 11 year olds that were crying. and then of course, to hear about those innocent souls in buffalo, new york, going to the grocery store, targeted because

they were black. and the misinformation of the replacement theory, mother emmanuel, sandy hook, here is what i think is important. we did pass in the house very effective bill, i was the lead sponsor, it's a bill that i helped write, along with many other members -- to protect arcades. we have the raising the age to purchase a weapon, we couldn't get that in the senate. we had regulation magazines, and-ing of bonds, among four stops, and we had the extreme risk orders among other important matters, and storage loss. simple. it just asked people to store their guns, save people from suicide attempts, and children getting guns, and children getting guns and doing evil things by taking those guns to school. i believe, one start, once tap is important, we'll have to see will what they come out. with the boyfriend loophole was in -- violence against women. act i implore those who are trying to make sure that the

violence that happens against law enforcement and against [inaudible] does not happen. i think we're gonna have to see what the return product is, reverend, then we're gonna have to be able to determine whether this amounts to the first step to begin stopping the violence of guns. if that's what the case is, i will interact with my progressive colleagues, my democratic caucus colleagues, and will come to decision in the house and how we should move forward. >> now, congresswoman, i can imagine the pride you must feel -- of juneteenth, federally recognized as a holiday. in fact, last year you served as speaker pro temp of the u.s. house of representatives, on the historic day the juneteenth holiday bill passed the house of representatives. on his way to the presidents desk for signing. but now, i need to wonder if any part of you is conflicted, about where the nation is at

this time, after the racist massacre in buffalo last month, and the lgbtq pride event canceled this weekend after the aborted extremist attack and idaho. -- how do you make sense of the progress represented by this holiday, and what feels like social regression, with regards to race and identity? >> the nation cries out for healing. it cries out for repair, we cannot keep going like this, or persons who deserve dignity, whether it's the lgbtq community, whether it's african americans, or hispanic children in uvalde. we cannot continue, so i celebrate juneteenth, in fact the idea of juneteenth was exactly this. to get the nation to pause for a moment, understand the mentality of slavery, slavery's been silenced, it's been not spoken about, and frankly that is not gonna cure america,

that's not gonna heal america, that won't bring americans together. so, this gives a channel for discussion and education, i did this for a decade, -- with my colleagues who i applaud and thank. i'm glad to be the chair, had the leadership to do their support, and then of course president of united states and our beloved -- in the state of texas. who started this state law. but this is a statement that america has a race problem. when a young boy takes an automatic weapon and says that he is born into the replacement theory, then we must begin to put -- irreverent, begin to put the commission to study slavery, reparation proposals understanding or acknowledging will bring about understanding. we cannot continue this past way, i hope with juneteenth lava pathway forward to do the healing of this nation. and >> yeah, and i definitely see you and i both were at the right house for the executive

order on policing. we were talking to members in the west wing and the president about that commission on reparations, we must keep pushing forward. let me raise this, we're waiting on the supreme court public decision on the future of roe v. wade, and with that federal abortion right, i wonder what you've heard from your constituents, women in texas, already living under strict abortion law. and now poised to watch the court, likely overturn abortion rights nationally. what are they saying, congresswoman? >> this is a tragedy. it's catastrophic. they're frightened, they're outraged, african american women in particular, are the most boarded by the inability to seek reproductive rights, reproductive health, in a way that will save their lives. many of them, in times past,

where the victims of maternal mortality, higher in black women, but just the care that comes through having abortion rights, and the choice of deciding what happens to your own body. and they are stunned, that the united states supreme court, might i add -- that these recent appointees, i would have the audacity to ignore the ninth amendment. they don't ask for anything other than the right to privacy, isn't that conservative, isn't that what conservatives believe, that you individually have your own rights, and yet they want to intrude on the bodies of women, they are frightened, and i think that's the most dangerous position to be in, and we will see health care cut off that's been given by planned parenthood and others, literally cut off. i don't know with the insanity of this point is, i have no reason to attack any one of the jurors. i want nothing but safety and security for them. but i think that this is, a truly political decision, it

came from nowhere, there was no harm or injury that they needed to care, there are cases that they're looking at, the atrocious case of mississippi, that followed the most strict and strict law in texas, and they'll be more of those coming up, just like governor desantis is outlined vaccines, this is a dangerous pathway. and the federal government has always been the last bastion of freedom and justice and equality for all, where we're gonna go next, the legislature and votes, voting, and empowering people to change those who are in the elective office, to be able to being rights back to people in the american people. >> that is why i said this is a day of reflection, as we go to juneteenth. because the story of juneteenth is, yes, are those in texas were finally told they were free. we also must reflect on, is the

two years because of states rights against the union, they were kept enslaved while others had already been free. thank you for being with us, congresswoman sheila jackson lee, now for an update on the war in ukraine, joining me now is nbc's ali a ruse-y, out of kyiv, ukraine. ali, what is the latest there? >> good evening, reverend, the battle on ukraine's eastern front continues to rage as the russians make steady gains in their bid to capture severe don't ask, the captain of the luhansk region. the governor of little hands region said -- that the russians moving in a normal reserve that they've taken from around the country. in an attempt to capture that region, in the coming days or weeks. but the ukrainians are also putting up a ferocious fight,

-- there are out numbers, and outgunned by the russians -- now they're constantly being hit by missiles artillery strikes, ukraine saying -- they're enormously grateful to the united states and great britain for the weapons that they're supplying. it's simply not enough, the will call the biden administration pledged at a billion dollars worth of military aid in that a package was 36,000 rounds of 150 millilitre ammunition, ukrainians are saying 36,000 rounds are only gonna last a week, the russians are pounding them by 60,000 rounds incredible latza that they're using between 100 to her man on that front line. every day. today, we had an opportunity to speak to one of those front line of what's going on there.

take a listen to what he had to say. >> the fighting is bearing down, -- state a couple days a couple weeks it's not -- [inaudible] [inaudible] of the city itself. >> reverend, this is sharing all the signs of being a grinding war that the russians taking these methods to just wear down to brutality the head of nato said today the world must prepare itself for years of war, with the russians, but it's really important

[inaudible] >> ali arouzi in ukraine, thank you for that report. still to come. the principle of freedom is the foundation of june teeth. but beyond that, there is the lessons of truth and justice. i will explain how we can apply those lessons in today's political climate. and later, a new study sheds new light on america's love affair with guns. our panel will discuss how it could shoot down on any chance of real gun reform. first, my colleague gigi stonewood with today's other top news stories. gigi? >> thanks rev. here's some stories we're watching at this hour. there were three people injured

after a 70 foot yacht burned and sank in new hampshire. that's according to local authorities. they got heading toward a marina in newcastle, when a passenger noticed black smoke below deck. three passengers and two dogs jumped overboard as the boat was engulfed in flames. people and the dogs were rescued by nearby boats. swimming's international governing body today released a new rule effectively restricting transgender athletes from competing in women's events. the new policy only prevents swimmers who transitioned before h 12 to participate in the women's category. a new policy also calls for the creation of an open competition category that could include transgender athletes. and yellowstone national park is set to partially reopen wednesday after record flooding led the park to -- close for the first time in 34 years. visitors had to be evacuated at the height of this tourist season as high waters washed out homes, roads and bridges, parts of wyoming and montana and idaho.

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didn't come from the trope -- stroke of a pen, but the barrel of a union gun. some whites simply lie to the black people they held captive as property about was happening. or refused to release them until they were forced to. outside of confederacy, slavery persisted legally, even after juneteenth and states such as kentucky, delaware, and even new jersey, until the 13th amendment abolishing the practice nationwide was ratified later that year. ultimately justice could be delayed but not the night. when i think about that history, i'm inspired by how far we've come, but also troubled by how familiar it all feels. i hear echoes of that passed in the hearings of january 6th

committee. which tell the story of a new generation of americans willing to embrace a big lie and trample on the rights of countless fellow citizens in order to empower a select self interest and if you. it's no wonder that the insurrectionists carried confederate flags as they -- on the united states capitol. or that some in the republican party and the right wing media would incite a moral panic over the mere mention of race in the classroom, but if the lesson of juneteenth was merely about our country's races routes it would only be half a holiday the true moral of the juneteenth story is a righteous dream kept and can only be deferred and never died. the enslaved people of gavel stun lived under a regime of unspeakable brutality. they're in straw in airy feet

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involved in efforts to overturn the 2020 election. the panel has asked ginni thomas to testify, and she says she looks forward to speaking with the committee. what potential impact could her testimony have? >> reverend it should have huge impact but it probably won't. how horrible that the wife of a united states supreme court justice's innocence and insurrectionist? and that should be huge news. that should be troubling news but i'll, you and i know the former president of the united states is an insurrectionist and that's what these hearings have made clear so far. everybody around trump knew the big lie was all a bunch of bull. but trump knew that. and yet he continued to spread it. my hope is is that these hearings will have an impact,

but talking to republicans every day they're not paying attention. they don't seem to care, sadly. >> michael, with inflation at a 40 year high, there is a lot of concern right now about the health of the economy. president biden is urging americans to stay optimistic. he told the associated press that a recession is, quote, not inevitable. this is as a new nbc report shows voters democrats need to turn out in the election. are really being the ones hardest hit by this. those with lower incomes, blacks, hispanics and those under 40 are the ones that i'm referring to that are being hit the hardest. what should democrats be saying to those -- >> rev, i would tell you that democrats have failed to tell their story. obviously inflation is a problem in america, but across the world.

major economies are dealing with this. if we're going to have the conversation about this presidents economic record, let's have the full conversation. you've got a 0.7 million jobs created by this president. he's cut child poverty in half during his first year in office, and he has historically low unemployment, along with the fact that he's the first president in about 70 years to pass an infrastructure bill, and so we have to have a full conversation about what is being delivered by this white house. i think they should do a better job and could do a better job and telling that story, but they have delivered, but they must address inflation and i think they're doing the right thing. >> you think, michael, that the problem is messaging? they're not getting their message out? or the problem is they don't have a message? >> the problem is they need a stronger message. the problem is they need to simplify and articulate the things they have delivered for the american public. no one knows that president biden created a 0.7 million jobs. nobody knows that under this

president, every job loss to the pandemic has been recovered. that matters to people. they've failed to tell that story. >> the question is, is it too late to tell it now when you've got gas prices that $5? as anyone really going to hear that? but you've got to really come up with a strategy. let me go back to a minute, joe. senators are hoping to pass a bill before the scheduled of july 4th recess. this comes as a new report by the washington post shows there are more guns than people in the united states. according to a new study of the global firearm ownership, this as gun manufacturers are encouraging more people to purchase firearms. how optimistic are you that new legislation will be passed to help address the country's gun violence crisis? >> i'm not, because i think these republican senators went

home and, a very vocal minority of their base has gotten in their ears. we saw what happened to john cornyn down in texas. he's leading the republican efforts on which really should be, and they say this as a proud gun owner and gun rights advocate, i mean, expanding background checks and red flag laws, those should be basics. i mean, most gun owners support these reforms, but john cornyn was booed down in texas for leading these talks. i think republicans are going to get cold feet here. >> he was holding the line on several things that they would have wanted him to hold the line on. they don't even want him in the conversation. >> exactly. >> it's not a healthy look to me toward trying to resolve this matter the way we must. in terms of gun violence. michael tomorrow we are

celebrating juneteenth, as i've been talking about the whole show. as for the entire month we've been recognizing pride month, which i also brought up in this show. amid the celebration of diversity and inclusion, there is also fear. many see would happened in buffalo in recent arrests of militia members allegedly intent on disrupting a pride parade in idaho. they wonder whether their own festivities could be disrupted. what is your take on this mood of nervousness that seems to be gripping the country? >> the truth is, america has come a long way, but we still have a long way to go. as it relates to sort of the issues in buffalo with the racially targeted killings there in south carolina and others, it all comes back to one thing. a cancer black suit -- white supremacy in america, which must be eradicated by

this justice department. i would say that given the rule of black democrats that have played in the recent democratic party in the past decade or so, i would say that this tends to be at the top of the list for the attorney general, to address white supremacy and those organizations in law enforcement and outside of law enforcement around the country that are targeting black and brown people and gay people, and others who are just trying to live their lives. >> joe, i want to bring up something that caught my eye. politico is reporting that governor desantis has already raised more than $100 million for his november gubernatorial race. this is in thanks, and large part to some of donald trump's biggest benefactor's. you ran against trump in 2020. what do these donations suggest about the party's willingness to move away from trump, and possibly support a desantis

candidacy in 2024? >> all, i actually don't think much. i think privately, most of the big republican donors don't want trump to run again. and trump knows that, which is why i think trump will come out within two months and announced that he is running for reelection, because he wants to put the santa send everybody else in their spot. he wants to freeze the field. i think that is what is you going to do. i'll, this is still his party. he is just going to reassert himself. that is bad for the country. >> all right, joe walsh and michael hardaway, thank you both for being on. coming up, we celebrate this juneteenth on father's day. we sit down with an award-winning children's musician to discuss black fatherhood. and tonight on msnbc at 8 pm. olivia troye, ex aide to vice president -- ex vice president mike pence,

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special day, i want to send out shout outs to fathers everywhere. and certainly black fathers. and father figures. and for all the hats i worn in my career none has ever brought me more joy and satisfaction and being a father to my daughters. which is why i was so pleased when i looked up to see that a friend of the show, recording artist -- a true renaissance that had sent me a copy of his latest children's book. daddy daughter day. a tribute to the bond between a father and his little girl as they spend a very special afternoon together. just the two of them. joining me now is grammy nominated recording artist and author of daddy daughter today, pierce freeland. pierce, happy juneteenth, and thanks for coming back to the show. and of course, i'm thinking back to father's day last year

when you and your children were kind enough to perform for us. you've got some talent in that house. frankly, it's senior jeans. your mother nina, herself a grammy award winning jazz singer. your father, the late phil freeland who designed the smithsonian's african american history in washington, and then there is you, a former city council member in durham, north carolina. and activist, a musician. and now a children's author. tell us about daddy daughter day. >> yes, thank you so much for having me on, reverend sharpton. i'm honored to be here. daddy daughter day is a celebration of all girl dads out there. you know what that's all about? you know, as special day. just me and my daughter still less spending time together. kicking it at the house. building a fort at the crib. making smoothies.

meditating. we go outside. we use our imagination. we play. we go to a protest, where there's a political piece in there. making sure our kids are conscious and aware in this country -- as we know from watching your show. and coming home, cooking a meal and laying her down to bed. it's just a wonderful exploration of the day and a life of a girl dad, and that special bond between father and daughter that i care so deeply. >> pierce, my producer tells me that ear daughter and i somehow connected, and you have a photo to prove it. give me the lowdown. >> yes. yes! my daughters great grandfather's reverend dr. samuel do it proctor. a wonderful preacher, reverend coming from a wonderful tradition. my wife was like, you've got to

tell arrive! you've got to tell him that! stella's grandfather is how they call him dewitt. >> he was one of the most prolific, respected -- of the black church in history. that's great. that's a picture of him, and reverend willie barrow was one of the leading female ministers and civil rights leaders at that time when i started at 12 or 13 under operation bread basket. there was jesse jackson who is the head of operation of britain basket. ironically, dr. proctor, your daughter's great grandfather, was the president of the college that jesse jackson went to. that was their bond. >> yes! >> let me ask you this. while i have you. the nation is observing juneteenth for the first time. i find myself reflecting on how

history, as a parent and pleased to say, a grandparent. i have one grandchild now. as a black father, what are you thinking about on this juneteenth? >> this juneteenth coincides with father's day. i'm thinking about my dad. i'm thinking about my dad. you mentioned he was an architect. he designed the smithsonian national museum of african american historian culture. juneteenth is about celebrating that history. about cherishing that legacy of black struggles and black resiliency at is so -- such an important part of our story. if we don't tell our own story, then somebody else will. frederick douglass who said, what is the fourth of july to the negro? we need to have our own opportunities to celebrate our legacies, history and culture. i think god that my father and

people like my daughter's great grandfather, samuel dewitt proctor. it's adam -- such important work to tell our stories, to raise up our ancestors and preserve our legacies through their important work. those are the two dads in my mind today. my dad and my wife's grandfather. >> i've got to ask you this, pierce. do you have any plans at all to ever run for office again? >> yes, i'm keeping the door open. i get that question a lot. you know, there are a lot of important things that i want to do in this life. right now, i'm writing books, working on a podcast, writing for television. i think that's a really important role for me as a black dad, now that my children are young. i'm absolutely open to getting involved in politics again. it was the privilege of my life to serve on city council. i'm definitely open. >> all right, piers freeland, thank you for being with us.

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issues are there. and it may not be as controversial in some circles votes in others yes. the story of in the focal point of -- [interpreter] the stories where we've gone and not gone in race in america. it was a great night. am robert de niro was there. spike lee, oscar winner, film maker in his own right. we grew up in brooklyn new york. spike and i go way back. i've been to a couple of his films. john legend is the executive producer and here he is chatting with lee, the fashion designer, about his hopes and dreams of the message he wants and we must continue to keep fighting.

a diverse team de welcomed robert de niro. standing with robert de niro is the president of msnbc. i was on that when rashida jones came. she saw the documentary herself. the whole team standing with her and robert de niro and jane rosenthal. i think if we are going to do anything about juneteenth, we should reflect about what happened about then in 1865. what's happening now, and talk about things that we talked about in that documentary. how from the racial attacks in 86 to george floyd, to buffalo is still there. what can we do about it? how do we protect it?

how do we deal with states rights, which was wet texas used to prolong slavery and the 18 hundreds. let's make juneteenth juneteenth -- let's turn it on and keep fighting and those aspects of white supremacy that is still plaguing us. also, on father's day, think of the fathers who did do the right thing. and not only their homes, but in their communities. let's have yelling among us to realize that we all have flaws. my father left when i was young. i was in it for many years. i'm so happy i reconciled with him. i saw the strength and him. my father was an entrepreneur. a businessman. even in the 50s, when it wasn't popular to be. so let's have a happy father's day. to my father and always on father's day, i have to think the man who became like my

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