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times >> is that what they're saying, okay i'll go with that but. >> i say to myself, now that i work on the weekend. i just need to say really quickly, thank you so much for closing the show out on that story about vincent chan. i had no idea about it, i'm embarrassed the say that i did know the back story. i think it's a very important reminder for everyone out there. because hate crimes are on the rise. becausthank you your team for pg them in the spotlight. >> yeah, incredibly important not only to honor juneteenth today but the life of its engine. today but the life of it engine welcome to a special edition of ayman moye dean. we will be back next week with american voices. this hour we begin with the business of trumpism and evidence that the former president leaned on his supporters to fly his own plot line his own pocket books. -- how to milk the cash cow when
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it comes to presidential politics. on trump's first day in office he started raising money for his reelection campaign, and some of that donor money poured right into his businesses. in 2018, you would say today said washington hotel taken $351,000 during his first year in office. about 60% of that came from the republican national committee to host events at the hotel. trump also has a history of using charitable donations for his own benefit. in 2019 new york times, excuse, me new york judge find trump $2 million after the trump foundation misused donations meant 4chan charity. the npr reported at the time, quote, the case is tied to a televised fund-raiser for veterans held by trump in iowa when he was running for president. trump said the funds raised would beach distributed to charities, but according to two court documents, the trump
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foundation improperly use nearly $3 million it received from that fund-raiser and now a year and a half after trump's 2020 election defeat, he's depending on supporters to build his political future once again. just this past week he sent out this fund raising email to his, quote, loyal america first patriots, and believe it or not, folks, for the low price of just 75 bucks, supporters could receive this sign portrait of donald trump himself, and during last week's second january 6th hearing, we learned how trump turned lies of a stolen election to a lucrative fundraising scheme. in the scheme after the 2020 elections, the committee found that donald trump and his allies raised more than 200 and $50 million for a quote election defense fund. the thing is, there was no actual defense fund. instead, it was all just a marketing ploy to turn the big lie into big money.
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>> throughout the committee's investigation, we found evidence that the trump campaign and his surrogates misled donors as to where the funds would go and which they would be used for. not only was there the big lie, there was the big rip off and the owner deserves to know where their funds are really going and they deserve better than with president trump and his team did >> we could soon learn more about that big rip-off. the january six committee members promised the panel will release more information about the effort to raise money off of election lies. joining us to discuss this is senior editor for -- jill wine-banks, the co-host of the hashtag sisters in law and i join politics podcast, those are two separate podcast we should note, and new york times reporter david. both david angela msnbc
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contributors. david, i'd like to start with you, you've covered the subjective extensively for years, how did these new revelations from the 16 committee mere trump's history of profiteering or profiting off of politics? even carry for that matter. >> what we found throughout charity and political fundraising, even the way president trump used government money when he was president, there is always a way that the money ends up helping him either directly or indirectly. his charity used money meant for charity to pay off business debts and to buy portraits of trump himself. his political committees took donor -- paid for big events that is hotel to rent empty space at its properties. when he was president he said that his own president -- 's business than charge higher than average rates, making millions of u.s. dollars, putting millions of u.s. dollars in his pocket. i'm not surprised at all to
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hear that he would say one thing to donors. take their money, do something else. >> jill, the committee says that about $200,000 raised for the nonexistent -- was actually spent at trump's hotel tells and they mentioned, what can prosecutors learn by following this money? >> i love the idea of following the money, since this is the 50th anniversary of the watergate break in, where follow the money was a very key element. there are crimes that have been committed in their civil offenses that have been committed. this could lead to you've already referenced that there's a 2 million dollar fine for another charitable fraud. and he raised 3 million and was fined 2 million. he still came out ahead on that. finds would have to be increased for him to really hurt. you can't raise more money than you have to pay and finds. that here you might have wire
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fraud and criminal conduct. that's what happened to the wall that was supposedly being built with money that was going to 100% going to build the wall. that was not donald trump. that was bannon and others. but it's the same crime. i think there could be criminal conduct and in terms of where the money goes, it's all for ever since he has started basically in business, not just in politics, has been cheating people. taking their money and not delivering when he promises. >> there's this new abc news poll that finds 60% of americans think the january 6th committee is conducting a fair investigation. how is the committee working to make sure that their findings breakthrough with the american people so that it's not just a d.c. or inside the beltway type of event? >> aim, in their working really hard to handle the point that there's one crux to this entire
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investigation to prove that trump had been lying. the new revelations we are seeing in witness hearings are very much important, and i mean even hearing for many americans who are not aware of this big rip off, then hearing them now is changing minds. then again, as jill just mentioned, there was the build the wall campaign, not a lot of outreach after that. there was $25 million. this time it's ten times. that we're seeing now that more information is coming out and we are seeing former prosecutors speaking out saying there's enough evidence here to hopefully bring in some capacity -- it's going to be up to merrick garland to make that decision to charge, but ultimately what we are seeing is this panel hammering home to the point that hey, donald trump has lied to you. he has continued to lie to you. not only is he lying to you, but he's actually taking your money and has taken your money. now we're seeing with the base is going to respond to all of this information if it's that
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trump administration saw the space that's just loyal or whether they he saw them as lucrative. that's where we're finding our. now we are waiting right now to see the response. there has not been a lot of pushback from the revelations so far from the loyal base that sticks by trump, but hoping that with more information coming up as the panel lays out this argument, that he lied to the american people, that there might be a change of minds and hearts. >> jill that same abc poll finds that six in ten americans think that trump should face charges for his role in what happened on january the 6th. what kind of message would it send if the doj does not push forward with criminal charges with both the public sentiment as well as the overwhelming evidence that has been put forward by the gene six committee? >> it would be a horrible message. the only thing worse and prosecuting the next president, wait, let me rephrase that.
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there's nothing worse than not receiving in this case. the evidence has been obvious for a long time, but it is now being laid out in front of the american public in a way that they've never seen before. the committee has done an amazing job of narrating a story without so far a challenging to narrate with. john dean could tell you from the beginning to the end, everybody's conduct. they've managed to do it through other people using multiple narrators. it's been very effective. i think the crimes are obvious and the people will be very disappointed. i think that the only way maybe to get through to some of the people who are on the defense about whether they could continue to support someone like this. we'd be to see a criminal indictment and conviction. they saw an impeachment but they did not see a conviction. that's what i think we have to look forward to. i think there are many crimes
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that have been weighed out here and an entire crew plan set forth. it's not just the violence of january 6th. even though it's called the january 6th committee. it's much more than that. it's the attempt to undo the election to undermine our entire democracy. >> david, trump's poll says -- it really relies on him duke his own voters and his own supporters with his lies. what does this say about his quest to hang on to power by basically fleecing his supporters? >> i think as bad as it might be to tell your supporters who are contributing to a farm that doesn't exist, i think the money is the least important part of this. he's trying to convince people and still trying to convince people that an election that was conducted fairly, that was one fairly by joe biden wasn't. he is tracking at the heart of american democracy and trying to convince people that the next election if the republican
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loses, it should be thrown out. i think it's good that the january six committee is covering all these angles, but i do feel like when he told people in what he said when he was raising money is not as important as when he is continuing to tell them about the election and how they should do future elections. >> kadia, we can we expect from the committee? which would be looking out for. when you think he should be focusing on? >> absolutely hammering this point home that there was a huge plan to push pass any truth. to push pass any advice that the former president had done about the election being fair, and the election not having been a fraud, and making -- hammering the point home that all these revelations shows that it was a very calculated plan. there is a lot writing on the evidence that is coming out. we've heard it again and again, that it's compelling. it's very much clear, that it
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still has not been him hitting home with a lot of americans who say that this is repeated. they've heard this before. really making it clear that the evidence we've heard in the past year as different from what they are producing right now. we are going to very much be made aware of what it looks like when you lie to the american people, and what comes after and making sure that's very very clear. >> kadia, jill, david, thank you so much for starting us off this hour. next, how americans feel about the economy. how those feelings compared to reality and with the biden administration is doing to flip the political narrative. later, one of the little rock nine, many jean brown -- on juneteenth, and the ongoing fight for equality in america. but first, gigi stone winces here who is standing by with a look at other big stories. we are watching this hour on msnbc. hey,, gigi. >> thanks. here's the stories we're looking at at this hour. yellowstone national park will partially reopen wednesday
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after extreme flooding last week destroyed bridges and roads. the southern loop will reopen with limited capacity. the north loop is expected to remain closed during the summer. in a stunning outset, really protection shows french president, emmanuel macron will lose his ruling majority in the final round of the country's parliamentary election. macron's coalition won 224 seats compared with 149 seats for -- led by the far left in 89 seats for the far-right. national rally. this is the first time and elected president will not have a parliamentary majority since 1980. employees of an apple store in baltimore, maryland have made history, becoming the first store to unionize. 65 employees voted in favor of being represented by the apple coalition of organized retail employees. 33 voted against. other apple stores across the country are now expressing their interest and following their footsteps. i'm just on what's, we will
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for your heart. your voice. we need all of that. heart your voice we need all of that. in the war against inflation, things might get worse before they get better. the federal reserve hike interest rates last week by three quarters of a percentage point. that's the highest increase since 1994. which means many can futures -- or not have higher credit card bills, mortgage payments in addition to paying higher prices and stores and at the gas pump. inflation is nearly 9% higher than it was a year ago now at a 40 year high. but the biden administration and repeatedly that a recession is not inevitable. >> i don't think a recession is that inevitable. clearly inflation isn't set -- president biden's top priority to bring it down.
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he said his goal is to bring inflation down while maintaining a stronger economic market. i don't think recession is inevitable. >> a lot of americans across all political spectrums are blaming high prices on president biden. the latest poll puts the approval rating for his -- own economy at 29% and handling of the inflation at 23%. tom nichols, a contributing writer for the atlanta points out that this blame is largely misplaced writing in part, quote, while we are griping about the gas prices, over which biden has no control, the russians are replaying the eastern front against 40 million ukrainians and also threatening nato. it's been reassuring to have a steady hand in charge of our foreign policy. tom nichols joins me now from the washington post. tyler pager joins us to. why do you think biden is being
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blamed for inflation, even though it's not of his control. -- years before president biden got into office. the fiscal policies, and just the consumption of the trump administration obviously said this in motion. >> in part it's the way our political system is structured. we blame the president for everything and we also give credit to presidents for things that they have actually no control of either. you can see the polling data that people will change their opinion about the economy, literally the day after an election. if their guy loses people who thought the economy was doing well the next day will say boy, the american economy is really in the tank and vice versa. we really tend to identify the president with everything. and sometimes it's important to do that because it's called accountability, but in other cases where inflation would be eight or 9% around the world, it's simply the reflex of the american voter to say, i'm unhappy with something, and
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because the president does superman and can do anything. if something is going wrong, therefore it's the president that's doing something wrong. it's just moving into our system. years of americans not really understanding their own system of government really. i was going to say, to your point about inflation around the, world it's a government that is right leaning. they have inflation. germany, they have inflation. italy, a mix of everything. they have inflation. the u.s., we have inflation and i don't think it's the government, as ian pointed out. tyler, the white house blamed inflation on corporate greed and the worn ukraine when it comes to energy prices. elaborate on these arguments and how your reporting and how those each onsite the white house are working to shift the narratives ahead of the midterms. >> there's a lot of people inside the white house that are deeply frustrated by the
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problem and it starts at the top and the president has told us top aides repeatedly in meetings on every issue that rising prices, inflation is a huge problem. his administration needs to do a better job, one trying to put in policy that would lower prices, but then to, message around this issue. the two of those that you just mentioned they're focusing on putin's invasion of ukraine and framing this is a test for democracies around the world. and two, attacking corporations and saying the greed, and their drive for profit is driving up prices. i think that neither of those are necessarily really resonating with the people, in large part because prices continue to go up. i've spoken with people inside the white house who were optimistic at this last inflation report. would be much lower than it ultimately came out to be, and i think they know that when voters head to the polls in november, this is going to be weighing on their minds heavily, just because of the prevalence
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of issues every time you drive by gas station. you see those prices in the five dollar range, it's just another reminder of how much more expensive things have gotten. and whether or not the president fault or his policy's fault. it serves as a test of his leadership, and people are going to express their frustration with the economy to the leader of the white house and not just the fact that the white house knows that, and the president himself knows that as well, and that is why it is such a focus and also frustration for them. >> tom president biden and other democrats have said a recession is not inevitable. some americans think we are already in one. it raises the question about the gop and all this. what does this say to you how effective that the republicans have been in messaging around inflation and saying sorry recession basically saying that we are in one creating the perception of the minds of americans that we are already in recession?
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>> there's two things first i think it's dangerous for democrats to say a recession is not inevitable. that is pretty weak statement and a recession comes then it's going to bite them pretty hard for having said that. but the republicans are much more successful about messaging because they actually have no plan to govern. when you hear people talk about inflation and gas prices you have this discussion with people -- would is that you think that republicans are going to do? they say, i don't know. not be democrats? because again it will sort of solve that when they get to it and the republicans are perfectly happy to say whatever we are doing it will not be with the democrats, but the republicans have not put forward any plan here. they know, i mean in the sense they're being smart. they know there's nothing they can do about it either. so republican messaging by
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default is more successful. it's easier to message when you say it's the other guys fault. all you have to do is replace them. >> tyler, is the white house confident that we saw last week that the presidents signed the oil refinery, the shipping -- excuse me, at the same time hoping that oil refineries make progress. are they confident that that would actually have some impact on the price of gas at the pump? >> i don't think there is a silver bullet here that is going to fundamentally solve this problem in the near term. one of the biggest issues is russia's invasion of ukraine and the description of supply chain with the persistence of the pandemic. the administration, the white house is trying to signal that it's taking steps. we've seen the president out front trying to talk about these issues, adding there is hope that they could reduce the pressure. my colleague and i just reported last week about all the different policy options
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they're considering inside the administration. they haven't settled on any just quite, yet but i think they're trying to figure out where they could do to lower the price in any meaningful way. i don't think we're going to see prices immediately go back to a normal range, but i think they want to show that the american people that they are at least trying to do so. >> tyler pager, tom nichols, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. next, minnesota attorney general, keith ellison on the impact the big lie is having in his state and beyond, and how states can fight back to protect our democracy. don't go anywhere. ack to protect our modecracy. don't go anywhere. all night ♪ ♪ and party every day. ♪ ♪ i want to rock and roll all night ♪ applebee's late night. because half off is just more fun. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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it's a tough knowledge, it's a difficult knowledge, but everybody needs to know we almost suffered a coup, we suffered a violent insurrection on january six. >> that was january six committee, jamie raskin, laying out his hopes for the american people take away from the panels investigation into the plot to overturn president biden's election victory. on tuesday, a top georgia elections official testify before the trump -- find enough votes to reverse biden's win in the state. on the 16 committee works to educate voters about the plan to nullify votes, republicans across the nation continue to embrace trump's big lie. just this weekend, texas republicans approve a resolution claiming biden was quote, not legitimately elected by the people of united states. this false belief invented in the bedrock of the republican party. the washington post reports more than 100 election deniers have won races during the primaries this year alone. joining me now to discuss this
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threat to american democracy, minnesota attorney general, keith alice said, it's great to see you again thank you so much. so, your state minnesota -- reporting that multiple minnesota republicans running for governor, attorney general, secretary start or among a growing number of statewide candidates, nationwide, to promote false claims of the 2020 election was not legitimate. how is the big lie impacting politics in your state? >> well, it's sad but true, we do have a number of people who are uttering this falsehood that the elections were not legitimate. well, in many ways we're seeing this, a gubernatorial candidate who's threatening to lock up our secretary of state, who's our chief election official, one of my opponents isn't acolyte and chief counsel lawyer for the pillow guy, my
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pillow guy, who is one of the major big lie proponents. we see him on all fronts threatening and denying the outcome of the last election, including endorsing and saying that the insurrection is the violent insurrectionists, who took action, which led to the death of police officers, were patriots in fact. so, we have this going on in the state [inaudible] it's shocking, were organized to stop it. so, that's how it is. >> let me play this for you, this was conservative lawyer michael luttig, who testified on thursday about the future of elections, watch this. >> donald trump, and his allies and supporters are a clear and
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present danger to american democracy. they would attempt to overthrow that 2024 election, in the same way that they attempted to overturn the 2020 election. >> talk to me about that damage that these election deniers can do to our democracy if they get elected, if they get into the offices there? >> while, they can do quite a bit, damage let me tell you secretary of state, we have an outstanding steve simon and he doesn't care who you vote for he wants to make sure you can vote the folks in the party opposite, share that view. they would try to favor a trump style election we, have a gubernatorial candidate
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threatening to incarcerate the secretary of state and of course, my two attorney general opponents of both believe that the insurrection is for patriots, they can do a whole lot of damage, so what's on the line is democracy itself. we've got people, to understand simply what is at stake in this election, and that is democracy itself. the fact is all be the first to say, our country was celebrating juneteenth a day, our country had to work hard to perfect the union. to make sure that everybody has writes, we struggled years, but it's a great country, and you will miss this democracy if you let these people take it away from yale. you will. it is something that we need to stand up for we, need to organize for and i can just tell you -- we, as democratic attorney generals had to assume the united states postal service because trump's appointee, try
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to restrict a vote by mail, because of the pandemic. they knew the democrats were gonna vote by mail more, they tried to stop, it we need to sue to protect the vote that. i had to, sue people from the tennessee company, who wanted to come up with guns and stand around -- and i told them, you better not do that or you're gonna get some more. we stopped. then we expected the same tricks are gonna be around, we're organizing a plan for it right now. i would advise people all over the united states, to organize to protect your vote now. don't wait around, and remember united states only have national elections, we have state by state elections, voting is a state thing. and so, at the state level you need to get busy, you need to start planning now to make sure that no matter who they vote for, that they get to vote. >> let me ask you finally if i can, you're obviously alone, attorney general in your state. what are your thoughts on how
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january six has proceeded right now in terms of the questions that another attorney general, the attorney general, merrick garland's plays with about whether not you can bring charges against donald trump, based on what you have seen so far, if you're in a room one-on-one, what's the case you make for a charge he leveled against donald trump to merrick garland? >> well, i think there's several statutes which arguably violated by the conduct, of the former president, and i am confident that the u.s. attorney general is evaluating that right -- there is prosecutors in the state of georgia, who are very, very concerned about the pressure tactics that the president applied to the secretary of state. so, i would say that if i was a president, former president trump, i get myself some good lawyer i think he's gonna need him. >> indeed, he. well minnesota tierney general,
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>> i made a least art of searching for options to access an abortion in the state of texas. >> but just a few months earlier, in september of last year, texas seek we have a russian ban went into effect. >> -- in the local planned parenthood clinic, they let me know that based on my last menstruation cycle, i was already past the six week mark. >> i must as they referred to a clinic eight hours away, in new mexico. she made the decision to self manage her abortion with medication obtained by from a friend. >> i was watching these youtube videos, that i would able to receive care, in december food and drug administration lifted a major rig fisherman of origin. kills permanently allowing patients to receive abortion medication by mail, instead of requiring them to receive them in person. >> there are a ton of virtual clothes that popped up in the united states, ever since --
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requirement. >> the future of those clinics is in question. 19 states require clinicians to be physically present for one or more visits, effectively eliminating access by mail. then there's the supreme court draft opinion on roe v. wade -- roughly half the country will ban abortion, and -- then instantly have 35 times the amount of web tragic -- robin talk as a clinician at aid access. -- in the medical abortion by mail. >> we had an overwhelming surge, immediately in patients, and that's a being pound them and said telehealth abortion clinics, aid access and medication to patients and states with tighter restrictions. , by having the medication prescribed and shipped from overseas. >> texas has no jurisdiction over providers in europe over pharmacies in india.
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over two years after the emancipation proclamation. this is the second year americans are celebrating juneteenth a federal holiday, which president biden signed into law last year after decades of pushing -- >> i thought it was extremely important to pass a federal holiday that would give america a moment to be able to reflect not just on the jubilation of freedom, but also the brutality of slavery and what it meant to human beings. >> joining me now, so the rights activist a member of the little rock nine, the group of black students who transformed america by being the first to integrate an all-white school in little rock, arkansas back in 1957. thank you so much for joining us and making time for us this evening. i wanted to start by asking you what's juneteenth personally means to you as someone who has, as i mentioned, it transformed our nation to a more equitable
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one for black americans? >> juneteenth is a time of commemoration and celebration. i was on a program on thursday with miss cox who was the elderly activist who worked and coalition with other people to -- one of the things she said is we need to think about and learn from events such as the end of enslavement so that we don't make the same mistakes. i certainly agree with her. i have a proposal that everyone -- gordon read, because she analyzes it before and after. i think since we suffer so much from what i call profound intentional ignorance i think we have to dig deeper and not just see the party part of
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juneteenth but use it as an opportunity to educate ourselves. >> there was a report that came out earlier today detailing how juneteenth is already at risk of losing its meaning. it says, in part, juneteenth is meant to acknowledge black emancipation from enslavement, but there is a risk that it could turn into just another day off, defined by more road trips and sales on mattresses. it's something we see happening in so many times in this country. the modification of a federal holiday. is this something that you worry about? >> i kind of worry, because i keep hearing to phrases. i have a dream, and the other one is content of character. and yet, dr. king at the king center at stanford, seven volumes of work. i think we have to be really careful as a society not to
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simplify and take everything down to 25 words or less. so, that's my challenge. let's be critical thinkers. let's find out. let's pay attention. let's use these opportunities to find out names about ourselves, and how people work together to make this holiday happen, building coalitions. there's so many lessons in this process. let's pay attention to those and respond in kind. >> there has been, as i'm sure you are fully aware, there has been renewed calls for racial justice and equity following george floyd's death and the birth of the black lives matter movement. how is the state of racial affairs in this country compared to when you are integrating high school in the 1950s? what are the similarities and differences?
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>> unfortunately, i am of the imitable era, and i am horrified that we had to have a traumatic death before we start to think about what we could do and how we could change the world. i am constantly asked, what can i do? well, just look around. i think you don't have problems figuring out what to do. i'm really fascinated by young people coming forward. the climate activists. the parkland kids. i mean i feel a relationship to those young people because they're teenagers as we were teenagers. but we have to stop having the dramatic death before we act. we should have acted -- we should always have acted before now, and that is my challenge. i see activism as a life sentence. i expect to be an
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environmentalist, a social justice activist. an anti war activist. i expect to be that the rest of my life. there is no shortage of things you can do and we can be concerned with and advocate for, and join together for. so, i'm sorry we have to have it after a death or many deaths. then we say, oh, we really need to do something. we should have done it before. again, i'm saying it's time. we can't be late again. juneteenth. we can't always be late. >> it is time. i completely agree with you on that. minnijean trickey, thank you so much for your time and a pleasure speaking with you this evening. thank you. that is it for this hour. i'm ayman mohyeldin and i'll be
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