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>> hold a second. if it's 6:00 a.m. in l.a., a lot of people i know out there who don't think they should get up till 10:00 a.m. west coast time. >> or they're still up. >> or they're still up. yeah. a lot of people, mika, have we not said. a lot of people said they watch our show in l.a. when they're coming in. >> that's not healthy. >> it's a different lifestyle than old people like me. >> and me. jonathan lemire is still with us for the hour, the host of "way too early". we have a lot to get to, including tomorrow's hearing from the house committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol. which one member says they'll present new evidence tying former president trump directly to the fake elector plot. and new poll numbers that think the former president should be charged for his role in the
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insurrection. also ahead, a travel nightmare for many americans as more than 3,000 flights were cancelled over the holiday weekend. why? no pilots, no labor, no fuel. there's new reporting this morning on the police response during the uvalde massacre. why one officer armed with a rifle did not fire at the gunman. >> the news keeps getting worse. and the latest on covid as vaccines are now cleared for the youngest americans. but we start with hearing number four of the january 6, select committee. set to take place tomorrow. we're expecting to learn more new details about then president donald trump's involvement in a failed scheme to overturn the 2020 election results. including the pressure campaign he waged on state officials. georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger is scheduled to testify before the committee,
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along with his top deputy, gabe sterling. some new poll numbers are revealing what americans now think about former president trump since the january 6th public hearings first began. the abc news ipsos poll late last week finds 58% of those surveyed should be charged with a crime for the january 6th insurrection. that includes 91% of democrats and 19% of republicans. >> we talked about this before, jonathan lemire, a lot of people very concerned the overwhelming majority of americans still don't think donald trump bears responsibility for what happened on january 6th. but another way to look at this again in a closely divided electorate, especially when you get to the general election, you look at the 2016 race, the 2020 race, you see how things have gotten tighter every year. when you have one in five republicans thinking that their
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last president should be sent to jail, that's pretty significant. >> we're in an electoral right now where basically every vote counts we saw how slim the mar begins were, including the 11,000 votes that gave joe biden over trump. so if there are one in five republicans who believe he should be held criminally responsible for what happened in the insurrection, that's going to make a difference. as he mulls a potential 2024 campaign, as much as he's still the favorite, and rightly so, there's a sense he's not as invincible as he was once. there are more republicans willing is to stand up to him, willing to consider their own 2024 run and we've seen, frankly, that his track record during the primary elections pretty mixed in terms of his endorsements. he helped some but a lot of his candidates didn't win.
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this is a moment where, though he's still the 800-pound gorilla seems he's a little vulnerable. and i wouldn't be surprised to see the one in five number go up. also, though, and i've talked about it a good bit, the biden youngkin voter, they took focus groups after youngkin was elected. talked to people who voted for biden and the virginia gubernatorial winner, you have people who voted for biden, don't like the direction that he's going. you go down a list of items say, we disagree with biden on this, on that, we disagree with his leadership here, and then at the end of the polls they always ask, do you regret your vote for joe biden? no. because they're not going back to donald trump.
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and again, the anti-trump -- you know, we talk about negative partisanship, the anti-trump vote in 2020 are sticky. so if you voted against him in '16, you likely didn't vote for him in '20. if you voted against him in '20, you're not going back to him in '24. that's why these numbers where you have one in five republicans saying he should be arrested, he should be criminally charged for what happened. when you have a good number of americans saying he's responsible for it, again, if at the end of the day it's only two, three, four percent of republicans, 10, 15% of independent voters, that is enough not to swing the republican primary but certainly enough to swing any general election regardless of how bad the democrats are playing their hand right now. >> this poll also found that 60% of americans think that january 6th, the investigation, has been
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fair so far. so that's interesting. let's bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent, ali vitali and eugene daniels. adam schiff takes the lead in tomorrow's hearing, what do we expect so far? what do we know? >> adam schiff taking the lead as we saw other members of the committee play leading roles in the past few years, zoe lofgren and peter agulair are the ones that took the helm the last two years. for adam schiff, talking about the sustained pressure campaign at the state level, they'll do that using brad raffensperger and gabe sterling to talk about what the pressure campaign looked like. i imagine we'll do a lot of relistening to the phone call we heard last year where president trump pressured them to find the
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number of votes he needed to over turn the results in georgia. schiff over the weekend detailed the fact they had new information. he said, here's some of what that might be. listen. >> we'll show evidence of the president's involvement in this scheme. we'll also again show evidence about what his own lawyers came to think about this scheme. and we'll show courageous state officials who stood up and said they wouldn't go along with this plan to either call legislatures back into session or decertify the results for joe biden. >> we have a pretty good sense of the flow of these hearings so far, again using that idea of people inside the former president's orbit to detail new thing that is we may not have known before, give new facts about what the conversations were in the internal orbit. but at the same time as they're introducing players that the public knows about.
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the narratives are driving back to the focus that donald trump was at the center of this. the other thing we have to keep in mind as we go forward with the hearings is this one, of course, details the statewide efforts to overturn the election results. we're still waiting for them to reschedule the hearing going inside the department of justice and the sustained pressure campaign there and that's nothing to say of the fact they have not touched exactly what happened on january 6th. we saw some of that with former vice president mike pence last week. but at the same time they'll drill down on what was happening at the capitol juks a posed to what was happening in the white house as well. turning to the gun legislation, chris murphy says he believes the bipartisan group of senators working on the bill could have it ready for a vote this week. senators are still working on the text of the legislation,
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despite senate negotiators announcing a framework last week. and the sticking point, the boyfriend loophole. that has to do with whether unmarried partners can have guns if they were found guilty of violence against a dating partner. gene, tell us about the approach from the white house when it comes to both of these issues, gun legislation and january 6th. >> the thing that's really interesting, mika, is they're trying and hoping to stay out of both of these issues as much as possible. when it comes to gun, they know that we have a framework, we are working toward it. the vote might actually happen soon on the legislation. and they know that president biden getting involved in anything at this point it may make it worse. may make some of those ten republicans that have said they are interested in the framework, mitch mcconnell saying this
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framework, if the bill looks like the framework, he's supportive of it. that might go away if president biden gets involved. so right now they're continuing to focus on sher arring their atf nominee through, this is someone who has to handle a lot of these things. and on the january 6th committee, what they promised from the beginning to us, when we asked them what president biden was going to be doing -- what the white house was going to be doing during the hearings, that's come true they're staying out of it. they don't want anyone to be able to say that president biden or the white house was putting pressure on anyone, had any political involvement. this comes from how this very hearing -- we're going to hear how president trump was putting pressure on the doj and has put pressure on the doj at times about the election. so they don't want there to be any kind of hint of that happening with president biden, because something could come out of these hearing. they don't know, we don't know, right.
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so you have a lot of outside pressure, not from the white house but outside pressure and questions to merrick garland, the attorney general about what the department of justice is going to do. so president biden doesn't want to mess up anything when it comes to that. that can always change. we've seen president biden kind of throw an audible at times. but they don't want anyone to be able say that. i think that's what you see more people saying this has been an impartial hearing people are surprised there isn't a lot of grand standing. and the white house wants that to continue so president biden himself is staying quiet on that issue. >> ali, from the white house do no harm, let the story speak for itself especially on january 6th but on gun legislation, will anything happen? will they get something through? >> the tone and tenor of the negotiations last week ended with frustratfrustration, that'
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word that john cornyn used talking to our team. and sources we were speaking to last week said democrats came to the table on what republicans were asking for, specifically the so-called boyfriend loophole, they wanted narrower language defining what a boyfriend is. democrats wanted that legislative text to be broader. they seemed to, over the weekend, have come to a more positive place. one source familiar with the negotiations told me over the weekend, they are basically 98% done and people we're talking to inside the negotiations now this morning have a much more optimistic tone. that's not where things seemed they were last week but we weave seen ebbs and flows to the negotiations over the last several weeks. you make the important point they could do bill text at some point this week. that's what we're expecting. but that's because that's the deadline senators set for themselves. july 4th they go out of town, they want to get this done
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beforehand. so they are working against a clock. even if the clock is of their own making to get the bill text out as soon as they can. we believe it'll be this week but the two outstanding issues, red flag laws and how they're incentivizing states that have red flag laws but also states with other early intervention program. and, of course, the boyfriend loophole. the devil is in the detail, getting this on paper, we see why that's the case but a much more optimistic tone this morning from our sources on the gun package. >> ali vital and eugene daniels, thank you both very much for being on this morning. a special committee with the texas legislature will meet again today in the investigation of the school shooting in uvalde, texas. the hearing comes as we're learning more troubling details about the response by law
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enforcement at robb elementary school. chief deputy sheriff ricardo rios tells "the new york times" that a city police officer armed with an ar-15 style rifle had a brief chance to fire at the gunman before he entered the school, but the officer didn't shoot because he was reportedly afraid of hitting children who were still outside of the building. >> and that goes back really, jonathan lemire, to what the rule has been since columbine and it's been the rule that we've seen unfortunately, law enforcement officers break time and time again in the school shootings. we saw it tragically down in parkland, where you had a -- somebody outside -- a police officer outside afraid to go in. and defend and protect children. and, of course, we saw it with
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uvalde, in just the most painful way. my god. you take the gunman down and then you worry about everything else later. >> certainly law enforcement officers we've spoken to in the last month since the terrible shootings note that columbine came first, there was confusion in the response because no one had ever seen that before. that was forgivable. since then a template has been established. there's been lots of study and research and schooling done for officers as to what to do in incidents like this. as we've heard from commissioner bill bratton and others on this show, saying the officers in uvalde made the mistake of treating it like a hostage situation rather than a mass shooting. they made mistake after mistake. and it is reminiscent of parkland, not a school shooting but similar in las vegas, an officer who had a gun a floor
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below and didn't challenge the shooting until many others came. and every minute costs lives. it's heartbreaking. as outraged as we all grow each day with revolutions of how the uvalde officers messed up their response, nothing can be more tragic than the idea a couple of these kids died on their way to the hospital and if they had been reached sooner, maybe they could have survived. coming up, kids as young as 6 months can get the covid vaccine. we'll take you inside the decision impacting millions of children across the country. plus chaos at airports across the u.s. as thousands of flights were cancelled over the holiday weekend leaving travelers stranded. and more of this could be coming this summer. later, former homeland security secretary jeh johnson will be here to discuss why safety needs to be at the very
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cdc over the weekend gave the stamp of approval to the shots, both vaccines, how soon would you expect kids to actually be able to go to their doctor's office or go to the pharmacy and get it? >> it's going to start this week, savannah, we'll see the first shots going in tomorrow, wednesday, over the next few days. and then it's going to ramp up in the days and weeks ahead. >> that was white house covid response coordinator dr. ashih jha on "today." dr. rochelle walensky gave the go ahead to the vaccine for children under 5 years old. jessie kirsh has more. >> reporter: this morning hope and relief all americans 6
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months old are now eligible for the covid vaccine. pfizer's three dose for kids 6 months to 4 years old and moderna's two dose regiment 6 months old to 5 years old both getting the green light. >> we now know based on scientific review that the vaccines available here in the united states can be used safely and effectively in children under 5. >> reporter: even before the final thumbs up, carolyn was already looking for an appointment. a reminder kids like her 3-year-old son have stayed largely sidelined even as many returned to a more normal life. >> not doing travel, crowds, birthday parties have been small and mainly outside. i think he's gone to two. >> reporter: not all families are on board. nearly 40% of parents want to
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wait and see before getting their young child vaccinated. >> i would say no. he's not ready yet. >> reporter: doctors warn covid can be deadly for kids. >> we don't know everything we know about this. but we have a bottom line here, which is that this infection kills children and we have an opportunity to prevent that. >> reporter: some parents remain cautious. >> large evens and things like that we've been avoiding those. >> reporter: the vaccine still a welcome milestone many parents have been hoping for. >> is there a possibility kids younger than 6 months old will get a pfizer vaccine? >> i think there's a good possibility in the future. it may mean vaccinating those children in the first six months of life, like we do for other routine infections. >> thank you for that report, jessie kirsh. jonathan, obviously you have younger kids and you're around
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parents with younger kids all the time. this is an interesting one. we've all said over the past several years, if you're 60, 65 take the shot. and, of course, overwhelming majority of seniors, i think up to 90%, people over 65, have taken the shot. when you -- but you play the numbers. as you start looking at five and younger, i've talked to a lot of parent who is followed all of the cdc's guidelines in the past saying the numbers right now, from everything we know, the numbers, the chances of serious impact from covid so low we're not going to do it. so what are you hearing among your friends and what they're thinking about for their kids. >> my own children are older than five and they've been vaccinated. but friends who have kids under 5, most eager to get the shot.
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they've been waiting for this day and feeling frustrated, in fact, it took this long for this last subset of americans, 5 and under, to get vaccinations. but beyond the corridors of the northeast where i travel, there is reluctance elsewhere. the polling backs that up, there are americans who are nervous. but public health expert after public health expert urged americans to get the shot, they think it's worth it though cases of serious illness are rare, the vaccine provides added protection. the pandemic is in a new phase here in the united states. cases are up, deaths still too high, but certainly at a low point compare to other moments in the pandemic, hospitalizations as well. though white house officials keep pointing to the idea that there could be a new variant, a more serious one emerging this fall and winter, keeping their
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eyes on it and urging americans to get their shots and boosters. this is a big story in terms of how it disrupts american's lives and connects directly to the economy. millions of americans are trying to fly home this morning after a holiday weekend filled with delays and cancellations. more than 3,000 flights were cancelled over the weekend, including at this airport in boston with even more delays after father's day and juneteenth drove a record 2.4 million people to airports across the country. the situation was especially bad at this airport in charlotte, north carolina. all of this comes as airlines continue to grapple with bad weather, staffing shortages, supply chain delays, and high fuel prices. it's like a perfect storm for the airlines, joe, where they really have challenges from every angle in terms of trying to get people where they want to go. >> i've never seen anything like
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it. certainly not the united states where, you know -- and we've been seeing it mika obviously for the past couple of months, one cancellation after another cancellation, trying to get one of my sons up to new york. and three flights cancelled from three different airlines, all in the same day. i ended up finding a flight to get back home. >> it's not a quick fix. these are -- there are global factors here. >> they're global factors, but this is a staffing -- if you talk to the pilots, hey, what's going on here? if you talk to the flight attendants, the gate agents and sort of take them to the side and have a conversation, jonathan lemire they all say it's staffing shortages. a lot of pilots, a lot of flight attendants, a lot of staffers that were there pre-covid that just decided to not come back
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and some of them were citing just how ugly people had gotten on airplanes, how nasty things had gotten during covid with people refusing to wear masks, people being abusive, shouting at them. we're not coming back. whether it's delta, jetblue, you name the airline, we have a friend this morning who was supposed to -- they were supposed to reach their destination by 11:00, 12:00 today, they're not even taking off until 5:36 p.m., because again one cancellation after another and it seems to happen every day. >> it's a confluence of events. you mentioned a lot of staff not wanting to come back because of unruly passenger behavior, others found better paying jobs elsewhere. you have crew members going out because they test positive for covid. and you have airlines not wanting to fly half empty jets
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because of the price of fuel. across europe, dublin almost shutdown for a weekend. london is canceling 10% of the flights today because there's not enough staff and they had overflowed luggage everywhere. i speak for myself saying i have to get to europe ahead of the president's trip there and i'm deeply concerned. and thinking about booking via ship trying to get there sooner than flying. but this is an issue that's only going to get worse as the summer travel season picks up headed beyond july 4th holiday. next on "morning joe" we'll read from this morning's must read opinion page where a former homeland security secretary writes it's time we democrats fully embrace public safety as a progressive cause. jeh johnson will be here when
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whatever -- whatever your work, or if you're not working, there are ways to be active. you can tell your story. story telling is powerful. you can service others. you can work on a lobby effort. you can work on a legislative effort. you can write letters, you can make phone calls, you can be involved in elections. we need to build the power of people to defend this most intimate freedom of our lives. >> that was incredible heather booth, a 76-year-old activist who dedicated her life to speaking out about abortion rights. as part of our 50 over 50 partnership between know your value and forbes, we are shining a light on women in their 50s, 60s, 70s and beyond who are rejecting the conventional wisdom that their best years are
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behind them. some of these women may make the list. this week we're looking at women who have taken a stand at the supreme court possibly overturning roe v. wade. these women witnessed the decision firsthand. and they are not going to silently watch its demise. joining me now danielle bravo. these are forces to be reckoned with. >> especially heather there as you saw. she has been an activist, organizing well before roe v. wade has become law. and, you know, women, young women, who are being reckoned with that very right right now are looking for that playbook from heather. and cecile richard has been at the forefront of this fight for a while. she led planned parenthood for over a decade. in 2011 and 2021 she was named one of time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world. at 46 her work hasn't stopped
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she's currently co-chair of the american bridge 21st century. when i spoke to her, she gave me this call to action. >> we can support funds that help women, we can support health care providers like planned parenthood who help women. i think second we have to show that this matters to us. and whether that means being in the street or whether that means running for office or whether that means calling our legislators and the folks that represent us, it's important they know we are paying attention. >> and if not this, then what. this should become a huge rallying cry for women as we head towards the midterm elections. >> and an opportunity to galvanize young people. i talked to young women, who even if they're anti-abortion feel the government shouldn't control a woman's right to choose. an important issue. and finally we need to talk about esille known for many best
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selling novels. but the 79-year-old has been working to advance reproductive rights globally. and she worked at a feminist magazine in her native country of chile writing about subjects including abortion. her professional writing career didn't start until she was about 40 and much of her work wasn't amplified into her 50s. and her nonprofit has given hundreds of thousands of dollars towards organizations that protect reproductive rights. mika. >> thank you. don't forget nominations for the 2022 know your value and forbes 50 over 50 u.s. list are still open. if you know a woman who is actively stepping into their power in their sixth decade or well beyond, nominate them now or nominate yourself. the women who make the list will be honored at the second annual global international women's day
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summit in abu dhabi next year. this year it was remarkable we gathered generations from 30 over 30, 50 over 50 list and heard from a star studded roster. we also created cross generational mentorships that will last a lifetime. we can't wait until the next summit in march. it's on and around international women's day to celebrate the next u.s., asia and europe, middle east and africa 50 over 50 list. for more information head to know your value.com or forbes.com. let's look at some of this morning's must read opinion pages. in the latest column for the atlantic entitled cheryl sandberg and the crackling hellfire of corporate america
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writes in part this. sheryl sandberg's lean in women, work and the will to lead, was about how women can make it to the top. it was a sort of work life balance category buster because she was telling women to forget about the life part. during her 14 years at the company she's done so much damage to our society we may never recover. the simple truth is you cannot dedicate yourself to making untold fortunes for a giant corporation and to championing a social good. as the saying goes, if you're not paying for the product, then you are the product. well, there we were, suckers, lambs to the slaughter when we realized what we'd done, it was already too late. but here's the thing, ask any older person when the happiest time in their life was, they will also say, always say, it was when their children was
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young. there is no greater joy in this life than having a baby. here's a person uniquely designed to love you. and here is goldman sachs. jonathan lemire, that is the reader's digest sort of -- actually more than cliff's notes version of a remarkable column in the atlantic that caitlyn road. and caitlyn went through what's happened with sheryl sandberg, what happened at facebook. how, as she said we thought at first it was for sharing pictures of our kids and our grandparents and family members, only later did we find out, actually, that in many ways, we all, on facebook, would be helping an organization contribute to the undermining of american democracy. and then she goes on and talks about corporations in general. and really tells people coming
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up, focus on your kids. focus on the things that matter the most. corporations, they don't love you, they don't give back to you, but your children will. >> right. certainly hard to disagree with that sentiment. certainly the tech industry right now really hurting. and facebook, of course, is sort of a unique position because of the role it played, inadvertently or not, in a series of elections, a site of misinformation and disinformation in 2020, on democracy, on vaccines, on covid. it's really called into question the sort of responsibility what is a social media network and platform has in today's society. when everyone looks on their phone and they're one click away from being on that and being inundated with such false
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information. certainly there are nefarious forces that have used it, exploited it to push their message across, to erode tenants of democracy but also the ties that bind all of us, further dividing everyone. i read it after you tweeted it, joe, the column is worth reading. and the lessons beyond facebook, the corporate world as itself and how loyalty, a one way street and we all need to, as responsible citizens, keep a careful eye on them and try to keep their influence in check. still ahead this morning, a historic vote over the weekend among apple employees and what it could mean for the future of many of the tech giant's workers. we're back in a moment. we're back in a moment there's a monster problem and our hero needs solutions. so she starts a miro to brainstorm. “shoot it?” suggests the scientists. so they shoot it. hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it.
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he has a piece in usa "today" embracing a public safety platform will help democrats heal democracy for all. i also think it'll help democrats. he writes in part, quote, across the country and throughout history, democrats lose elections wherever and whenever people think we are soft on crime. it's time we democrats fully embrace public safety as a progressive cause. he goes on to write, rising levels of crime impact urban and suburban blue communities more than rural, red communities. for those of us in cities and suburbs, fear of crime is more than a paranoia, it's a tangible issue that stalks us every day. in new york city, people who are progressive on every political issue are afraid to ride the subways, they feel unsafe and want to see more police and fewer homeless people in the stations and on the trains. the desire to feel safe is not a political position. it's a basic human instinct.
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voters with varied political ideologies might agree with democrats on some progressive issues but will abandon us in droves if they feel we are failing at government's core responsibility to protect them. and joe, this actually matches perfectly with gun safety and other issues that democrats are championing already. >> it matches with gun safety, no doubt about it. but jeh johnson, it also, of course, matches up with what people like al sharpton and people like eric adams, the mayor of new york city have been saying for some time. you can't be woke if you're unaware of the suffering and shootings happening across new york city and america. democrats have to stand for safety and security. >> that's right, joe. and eric adams' election last
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year should be a lesson learned for every democrat. in round one of that primary, mayor adams ran third here in manhattan. but ran first in brooklyn, queens, and the bronx. in working class communities, principally of color, who were concerned about crime. that tells us something about the rank and file of the democratic party. one thing i learned when i was secretary of homeland security is there are national political issues and then there are issues that are intensely personal to voters. most often when i was in office, family and friends, the question they always asked me was not about our immigration policy, it was not about cyber security. it was simply, is it safe for me and my family to go to this particular public event or is it safe for me to send my kid to this country in europe during spring break?
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as the op-ed notes, we all know people who are progressive on just about every issue but they're afraid to ride the new york city subways right down stairs here at 30 rock. and want to know know they can safe in their day-to-day life. this is an intensely personal issue. crime stokes fear, and fear motivates voters. that's why i'm convinced that in '22 and '24 we, democrats, need to make public safety a central issue. and you can have robust engaged public safety and homeland security without excessive force, without stop and frisk, and without choke holds. just ask bill bratton, chuck ramsay and a whole lot of other commissioners from blue cities in this country. >> crime is up percentage wise, a similar measure in republican leaning areas as the democrat
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big cities. it's a national problem. there's a perception, there's a perception it's an urban issue. there's a perception it's a democratic issue. there's a perception that the democrats are the party of defund the police even though we know president biden and so many other democrats have rejected that outright, but that was an effective republican talking point last time around. how do democrats battle the perception of where they stand on crime? >> we have to talk more about this issue. we've got to talk about that sound, engaged public safety means in places like new york and suburbs like nassau county, westchester county, in the suburbs in maryland and southern california. one of the things i learned in washington you have to repeat yourself 18 times before anybody will listen to you. over and over and over again we need to make public safety a centerpiece of our message in this election, the next cycle,
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and ultimately voters will listen. if we don't talk about this issue history shows republicans fill the void and very often they fill the void by peddling fear, paranoia, frankly, bigotry and division. and so this is an issue that affects, in my judgment, blue communities far more than red communities. >> "the financial times" recently interviewed hillary clinton and she seems to agree with much of what you're talking about here. she told the -- >> our good friend ed. >> we are standing on the precipice of losing our democracy and everything that everybody else cares about then goes out the window. look, the most important thing is to win the next election. the alternative is so frightening that whatever does not help you win should not be a priority. wow. she also blasts the defund the
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police movement, you need accountable measures but you also need policing. politics should be the art of addition not subtraction. and, jeh, for hillary clinton at this point, i think she knows, unlike a lot of other people, just how much is at stake. i'm still very calmly saying i think it's a pretty frightening time. >> the other way to look at this, mika, is on the gun safety issue. isn't it the case that a refusal to raise the age to 21 at which someone can buy an assault weapon, isn't that the very definition of being soft on crime? there's a lot we can go after republicans on this very issue. >> i totally agree. former homeland security secretary jeh johnson, thank you very much. the new piece is in "usa today."
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and coming up, a look at some of the top stories making front page headlines across the country including recovery efforts under way in montana after historic flooding there. "morning joe" will be right back.
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although uncommon, up to 1 in 5 survivors of meningitis will have long term consequences. now as you're thinking about all the vaccines your teen might need make sure you ask your doctor if your teen is missing meningitis b vaccination. another playoff to decide another u.s. open at the country club. all of them before this have been decided that way. zalatoris for birdie to send it to that playoff. and matthew fitzpatrick is a champion again at the country club in brookline. >> will zalatoris, the u.s. open runner-up after missing that birdie putt making matt
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fitzpatrick the new champion and the first englishman to win the u.s. open in nearly a decade. also just the second man to ever win a u.s. amateur and u.s. open on the same golf course. joining the legendary jack nicklaus who accomplished the feat at pebble beach in 1961 and 1972. and finally, a look at some of the morning papers making headlines across the country. in california "the mercury news" has a front page story on the historic vote that took place over the weekend, employees at an apple store in maryland voting nearly 2-1 to unionize, becoming the first to do so. that vote could now open the door for several other apple stores to follow suit. colorado's "daily sentinel" on the recovery efforts outside yellowstone national park after historic floods ravaged the area last week. park officials are working to repair and reopen yellowstone
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within two weeks but the recovery in neighboring towns could last months. and papers across the country are honoring juneteenth on their front pages today. over the weekend in -- >> merced, california. >> residents marched in a parade in pierce, florida. hundreds gathered for a peace walk n. aurora, illinois, residents gathered downtown for a flag raising event. and in st. paul, minnesota, residents gathered sunday for a celebration that included food, music and dancing all across the country. that does it for us this morning. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage in 90 seconds. n 90 secs . they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. woah! look out! [submarine rising out of water] [minions making noise]
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good morning. 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. this morning frustrations for millions of americans coping with rising food costs, high gas prices, and now headaches at airports. is there any relief in sight? also this morning, what we can expect at tomorrow's house january 6 committee hearing and now that the cdc has recommended the covid vaccine for the youngest children, we'll ask a top doctor about what parents need to know. plus, later this hour, a major blow to french president macron who failed to win an absolute majority in the legislature after winning re-election. we'll talk to one of