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hearing tomorrow, to lay out the evidence it has on trump to pressure state officials to change election results. especially in georgia, with the secretary of state and his deputy expected to testify. also on capitol hill this hour, the fast-moving developments on gun reform. sources tell nbc news that senators could release their full bill any minute now. negotiators say they're 98% of the way there. plus, we have new reaction coming in on that decision by the world's most elite swimming organization. what athletes are saying about the vote to ban transgender women from the sport and whether other sports might be next. joining me now is von hilliard in illinois and allie, and look broadwater. we'll focus on january 6th. i hear the committee has a couple new witnesses for tomorrow. what can you tell us? >> reporter: we knew that the
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focus was going to be on georgia with those two top election officials you mentioned expected to come and testify here on capitol hill. there's also another georgia election worker, shea moss, who was pressured by trump and giuliani because of the role she played in counting ballots. they placed her at the center of the ballots in a suitcase controversy they were pushing. it's something we heard details in previous hearings, but something the committee will zero in on. they're also going to hear from the arizona house speaker rusty bowers who himself resisted efforts by trump and his allies to overturn biden's victory in the state. it's another example of how the committee is going to try to paint the picture that trump and his allies were reaching into as many state legislators as they can, trying to get these false slates of electors off the ground and trying to pressure officials to overturn the
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legitimate election results. of course, even as they start introducing these state by state plots, what we can expect based on what we have seen is that these lawmakers are going to put it all back to donald trump and how that connected to what happened here on january 6th. >> so the pattern that i've seen emerging on this, luke, is that they went through the election itself. they showed that all of donald trump's aides, his lawyers, knew it was fair, that there was not fraud on a scale that was overturn any of the results. that they told donald trump it was fair and that he lost. that donald trump knew he lost, but he went out there any way and started perpetuate thing lie that he had won and that there was fraud. then in the second -- or the third committee hearing, they said hi knew it was illegal to do what he was doing yet did it any way. it was illegal to pressure mike pence to overturn a fair
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election, that mike pence did not have the authority to do so but he did so any ways. is that going to be the same format we're going to see for tomorrow's hearing, luke? >> yeah, i think that's exactly right, katy. at each of these hearings, what the committee has done is they have, one, showed donald trump knew or should have known that certain things he was doing was illegal, or were unethical or wrong. the other thing that they have done at each hearing is they have presented people that were victims because of these lies and misrepresentations. so we're going to hear really i think some gut wrenching testimony at the living hell that some of these election workers went through in georgia. the kind of death threats and hatred and being the target of far-right conspiracies that they suffered. at the same time, you'll hear testimony that the scheme of fake electors, that this scheme of pressuring officials to find
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votes, that the people involved in it knew that this was unlawful. knew it was outside the bounds of the normal election process. yet did it any way. i expect we'll hear mark meadows name, we'll hear rudy giuliani's name a fair amount, and trump himself. i think they want to show direct evidence of how personally involved trump was in both the pressure campaign. >> we heard that recording where donald trump is pressuring brad rathensberger to find the 11,000 votes that he needs to win the georgia election. i will be curious to see what led up to that call and the aftermath of that call. you mentioned death threats. he had been clear about that. he made an impassioned plea for everything to cool down in public, saying his deputies were being threatened. another person that was
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threatened on that day, and is likely still being threatened is vice president mike pence, and von, you're there, covering a political speech that he's making. i understand that he's talking right now. we're monitoring it to see if he makes any reference to donald trump's targeted attacks on him from over the weekend. the committee says it's open to subpoenaing him. somewhat are you hearing from pence world? >> reporter: right. this was new. adam schiff suggesting yesterday that they may potentially try and make an attempt to subpoena mike pence. this is his first public comments here. this is an address intended to focus on the economy in chicago. he'll then be coming here to peoria, illinois, where he will address a gop dinner. i was told by one aide, the former vice president would like to focus on, you know, this idea of the future, and the republican party looking ahead. instead of relitigating the
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past. the issue is that we are coming to understand in large part because of the january 6th's evidence just how close to harm's way he was and how close to the peaceful transfer of power came to being delayed if not ultimately obstructed. that is why, as much as the former vice president would like to look ahead to a potential own 2024 run himself, this is reality in which the former president, donald trump, is looking to bring him down. you know, it was just on friday night in a speech in nashville in which donald trump referred to him as a human conveyer belt who lacked "courage." if mike pence intends to make the years of the trump administration part of his, you know, campaign speech looking ahead over the next 18 months for a potential iowa caucus, the reality is the details are in his way. if this january 6th select committee were to try to
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subpoena him, it would be left to him whether he would -- whether he would comply. because frankly, as much as we heard in terms of the depositions from his former advisers, there are still private conversations between donald trump and mike pence, that we have yet to hear the details of, including potentially did donald trump ever concede to mike pence that their ticket lost the election? there's a lot of questions that mike pence is yet to answer, and it's not for a lack of him going to the january 6th committee and not for a lack of us putting interview requests in to him that he has yet to ever agree to. >> any information on when the committee might decide this and decide to talk to ginni thomas? she said she will voluntarily comply. we'll see if she will. any word on those? >> no. but you have to imagine they're racing against the clock, right? we've all talked about in forums like this and others, the time constraints that the committee is under. with the elections in november,
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they want the report out before that. they've tried to keep this investigation above politics as they can. it's arguable on whether or not they have succeeded, given how partisan everything is up here on the hill. but they want that report out, so it can live on its own merits. the thing we know, based on the fact that ginni thomas said she would be open to the idea of clearing things up to the committee, after she said that, chairman thompson said they invited her already. so what's clear is that they're still considering fact gathering steps like talking to her, like the potential of subpoenaing the former vice president. stunning escalations, even as they're currently lag out a public hearing strategy, trying to show what they have already found. >> we'll see how many hearings they have left. thank you very much to you all. coming up, new developments on that bipartisan deal on gun
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>> reporter: well, look, katy, there was a monumental tonal shift over the weekend, because just before the senate left town for the weekend, senator john cornyn told myself and others that he was done, he was frustrated and over the way these negotiations were progressing. fast forward to this morning, and sources were telling me that yes, they're nearing the finish line. that the two sticking points that republicans wanted the democrats to make concessions on, closing the boyfriend loophole, something 30 something states already do, something democrats wanted to expand the definitions of what an ex-boyfriend, ex-girlfriend, a non-marital domestic partner is, and pushing that a little bit further. now we're told the bill text might arrive by end of day today. right before i came on the show, i checked in again. that would put them on a glide path to securing that bill, to securing a vote on that bill before they leave town this week. >> any word that the longer this
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takes, the more pressure some republican lawmakers might feel? we saw john cornyn over the weekend at the gop convention in texas getting booed. i wonder is that the sort of thing that can, you know, kill the hopes and dreams for this bill? >> reporter: totally. but this time, everybody, including senator chris murphy, says it's different. when you saw the republican leader mitch mcconnell come out with that endorsement, that was no small feat. yes, he sort of let these talks -- blessed these talks to take place in the first place. but that indicates there will be more than a small minority of republicans to go along with this bill. we're not talking about one or two republicans we're closely watching like in prior legislative pieces. we're talking about at least 70% of the senate. that's a number that senator pat toomey and other republicans told me about weeks ago. they wanted to make sure that the nra and other gun groups couldn't pick off enough republicans to dip under that 60 will have vote threshold to pass
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this bill in a 50-50 senate. so i think this is on a good path. the signs point to yes, they will get something done before of how positive the negotiations have been going over the weekend after a rocky finish the last week. >> just to be clear, you're looking at 20 republicans right now or is it even more than 20 republicans? >> reporter: that was their goal. their goal was to have enough republicans, enough support on both sides, obviously democrats are hoping all 50 of them will support this bill. they're looking at at least 70% of the senate in total to support this. like i said, it's because they don't want one or two republicans to be picked off and dip under the threshold. >> really interesting. 20 republicans. julie, thank you so much. americans are looking for relief at the pump, hoping lawmakers can do something to bring prices down, even if it's temporary. to that point, white house officials say a federal gas tax holiday is on the table. as of today, the average cost of a gallon is hovering around $5. joining me now is nbc news white
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house correspondent mike memoli. so this would shave off 15, 16 cents a gallon. nice, but it's not going to get the price down to where it was last year, mike. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, katy. 18 cents is the magic number a tax holiday would mean. we have seen a number of states suspend state level gas taxes and a number of those states are led by democratic governors and legislators. you talk about gas prices hovering around $5 a gallon. the president's approval rating is around 40%, and his approval on the economy is lower than that. so that's driving the urgency on the part of the white house today. the white house has said that all options are on the table, the president is considering a range of actions. today, he was taking a walk on the beach and took some questions. let's hear what he had to say. t.
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>> yes, i'm considering it. i hope i have a decision based on data i'm looking for by the end of the week. >> reporter: now, there are of course some tradeoffs if you suspend the gas tax, you have to reimpose it at some point. that's one of the political tricks. if the gas price does lower enough, you have to reimpose the tax. that will raise it once again. the other bigger issue is, this federal gas tax pays for things. it pays for infrastructure. the infrastructure law that the president signed last year is one of the main accomplishments they're running on, so they don't want to rob peter to pay paul, and put some of these infrastructure projects in jeopardy. so the decision the president says by the end of the week, we know sometimes those decisions, especially in this white house,
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drag on a little longer. >> really interesting. thank you so much. coming up, new talks on letting ukraine into a new club. it's not nato, but it's still upsetting vladamir putin. first up, the other news. what is happening in israel that might make you think benjamin netanyahu could be prime minister again. prime minister again seeing my daughter have a heart attack, it shook me. aspirin helps reduce the chance of another heart attack by 31%. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. if your moderate to severe crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms are stopping you in your tracks... choose stelara® from the start... and move toward relief after the first dose... with injections every two months. stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection,
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tomorrow across the country. here they're expecting to start vaccinating kids on wednesday. but there's the question of what kind of demand we're going to be seeing. there's a recent survey suggesting that about 40% of parents with kids under 5 are going to take a wait and see approach. that's been echoed by some of the parents i have spoken to. but there are people eager to get their kids vaccinated as soon as possible. we talked with one of the top doctors here about the demand they have been seeing when they opened up appointments. here's what she told me. >> the first hour or so of opening this up, we had about 50 people schedule. >> today? >> today, yeah. it's probably equivalent to the school-age group. if you remember the last group of people who were vaccinated, 5 up to age 12, i think it's pretty similar to that. >> reporter: but that is not compared, obviously, to what we saw more than a year ago when adults started getting vaccinated. the rush of people getting those
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shots. that does not appear to be the case. that doctor told me her teenage child, if her child was in this age group, she would get that shot for her child. she said natural immunity, even if you had covid, that's not enough. she said some people are thinking about waiting for the fall or considering should i wait for the school year to get protection. she's saying don't waste time, get the shot as soon as you can. >> so doctor, as an epidemiologist, what can you tell us about the safety of these shots and the efficacy? >> well, these vaccines have been tested broadly in children. we have seen studies now really indicating that these vaccines are providing about equivalent antibody response to those in the older age groups. what's important to remember about these vaccines is that we have now given these vaccines
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to -- to millions and millions of people. they're very, very few side effects associated with this. it's important to note that there are two different vaccines. both of them were evaluated by the fda and the cdc, and they are both very safe, very effective. important also to remember, though, these vaccines, while they are protective somewhat against getting the virus, they're really most protective against severe disease, hospitalization, and death. and that's really the key here. >> there are some parents who say the vast majority of children don't get severe cases of this. i know there are been a few hundred cases that have gone badly, but the vast majority of kids don't get severe cases. so if this protects against severe cases, when most kids don't get severe cases, do i really need to rush? >> the first thing i tell people is talk to your family doctor if
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you have concerns about your child. but the answer is, covid, again, is not just about severe disease, hospitalization and death. this is a novel virus. we still don't under the full specter of the disease. we know that children are not only potentially going to get hospitalized or die, but they also could have long-term effects. it's important to take this in context. remember, we vaccinate against many viruses where we don't see thousands and thousands of deaths. but we may be preventing hundreds of deaths, but it's the longer term consequences we're concerned about. >> do we have enough supply for all the kids? >> we definitely have enough supply. there have been 10 million doses ordered. only 4 million -- 10 million available, 4 million ordered. we should have plenty of supply. i do think as jesse was just saying, there may be a lag in demand because many parents will wait and see.
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but the key is, get your kids vaccinated the sooner the better. it does several weeks to build up that immunity. you want them fully vaccinated before the fall. >> before the school year. speaking of schools, a lot of schools have mandatory vaccines. this is not one of them so far. do you -- do you envision a time where this will be on the list along with smallpox, et cetera? >> well, it could be on the list of required vaccines, you know, like measles, mumps, rubella, some of these other vaccine preventable diseases. right now, smallpox is not on that list. >> i know better as a parent. sorry about that. >> you're thinking about monkeypox. that's a different topic. on topic here, what we're really talking about is we'll see what this -- what this turns out to be in the long-term. but the bottom line is, it's a safe, effective vaccine. you can get your kid vaccinated,
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many children are a little behind on some of the regular vaccines. you can do this at the same time. and the key is, you know, remember, it's about the bigger picture. it's not just about severe disease, hospitalization and death but the long-term consequences we want to avoid. >> doctor, thank you for saving me from myself. i appreciate it. coming up next, how the president of france won and lost at the same time.
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nbc's raf sanchez is following this. how could this possibly be? they eve had so many elections over the last few years. >> reporter: that is the question a lot of israeli voters are asking themselves. here we go again, the fifth election in three years. this has basically been one long rolling political crisis. and benjamin netanyahu, the former prime minister of israel, who has been in power for 12 years, has a real spring in his step. he's been on tv here in israel, he's looking bullish. this is a real chance for him potentially to return to power when these new elections happen in october. what's so extraordinary about that is this is a man who is on trial for criminal corruption charges, and yet the polls show that if the election were held today, his likud party would be the single biggest party in
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parliament and he would be in position to form yet another government. katy, we just learned in the last couple of minutes that joe biden's trip to israel in mid july is going to go ahead as planned. that was not a total given. there was some thinking maybe the white house would not want to insert the president into yet another israeli election season. the national security council says the relationship between the united states of america and the state of israel goes beyond any one government, and so the president's trip will go ahead. one change, though, when joe biden comes off of air force one, he's going to be greeted by the foreign minister, but he's going to serve as the interim prime minister of israel for the next couple of months until after that election. he's a centrist, a liberal. he's somebody the biden administration feels that they can do business with. he's not going to embarrass the president when he arrives in israel next month.
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so that trip is going ahead as planned. this is basically the end of a one-year experiment here in israel, katy. for the last year, israel has been ruled by this very unusual coalition. they didn't agree on anything except they wanted to keep netanyahu out. but tonight, they are calling elections to break the deadlock. >> i know you said if the elections were held today, benjamin netanyahu and his party would win. but they're not being held today. and in the past few elections, we have seen that no one has gotten a majority ruling. these elections are extremely costly and weigh on the patience of the israeli people. somewhat happens if they hold another election or when they hold another election and say there isn't a majority, an easy majority? >> reporter: that's the extraordinary thing. there is actually a big
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right-wing majority in this country. right-wing candidates win over and over again. but some of those right-wing parties agree with benjamin netanyahu ideal logically, refuse to go into government with him because of these corruption allegations. so as long as benjamin netanyahu remains at the head of likud, this could keep going and going. you could have indecisive election after another. they thought they had found the ma'amic formula by forming this unusual anti-netanyahu coalition government. but the reality, is it couldn't survive its own internal contradictions. speaking to israelis tonight, there are a lot of slumped shoulders that the democratic process just does not seem to be delivering any firm results. >> oh, wow. raf sanchez, quite a story. thanks so much. now over to ukraine. russian forces are zeroing in on the key city in the east, as moscow's invasion gains ground
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across the entire region. the families of three american soldiers allegedly captured and one missing are desperately trying to get any information they can. joining me from kyiv is our correspondent. so my colleague spoke about these two americans captured. what are you hearing on the ground there? >> reporter: we don't have a lot of information. we know that these guys went missing in some intense fighting west of kharkiv. and as you saw from keer's interview, the russians are not denying or admitting that they have them, but it is a worrying development. their condition is unknown. we have only seen videos that have been released in russian state media. we don't know where they're being kept. the state department is saying they're closely following the case. they are in constant contact with ukrainian authorities.
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as we heard time and time again, they're urging americans not to come here and fight ukraine, specifically for these reasons. but if indeed it is proven that they are in russian custody, this could be very complicating development for the u.s., who have been trying to not get involved in this war beyond giving ukrainians arms. of course, we have seen what happened to other foreign fighters that have been captured here. a couple of weeks ago, the two british fighters along with the moroccan fighter were captured by the russians and put in front of a kangaroo court in severodonetsk and handed down a death sentence. it is kind of unusual that we haven't heard anything from the russians officially as to holding these americans, because the russians really do like to play this up as propaganda, to show that the americans are getting involved in this war one way or another.
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so everybody is watching here to see what the word will be from the russians. and if they do pop up in one of these courts, which could have very dire consequences. >> thank you very much. coming up next, the organization that runs the world's most elite water sports is now banning certain athletes from competition. why their president says it is not discrimination. t discriminan . i did with wayfair. sometimes i'm a homebody. can never have too many pillows. sometimes i'm all business. wooo! i'm a momma 24/7. seriously with the marker? i'm a bit of a foodie. perfect. but not much of a chef. yes! ♪ wayfair you've got just what i need. ♪ for people who are a little intense about hydration. neutrogena® hydro boost lightweight. fragrance-free. 48 hour hydration.
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if you're 45 or older, get started at missiontoscreen.com here's a look at some of the other top stories. a republican senate candidate in missouri has embraced violence in a new ad. these are screen shots. in the ad he encourages the hunting of so-called rinos, the acronym for republicans in name only. he is holding a gun, breaks into a house flanked by men in tactical gear. he resigned as governor in 2019 amid reports he tried to black hail a hairdresser he had an affair with. voters will head to polls in alabama and georgia to hetle primary races. among those to watch, the republican race for senate in
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alabama and the democrat who will take on georgia's secretary of state in the fall. and in france, president emmanuel macron's second term is a rocky one. voters denying the centrist leader an absolute majority in parliament. those new election results saw a rise in support for far left and far-right parties. joining me now is matt bradley. so matt, explain what happened to us. >> reporter: yeah, what we saw was essentially revenge of the extremes in france. it was a real rebuke to macron and macron-ism in france, which is essentially a radical centristism. it's macron and all those people around him who want to be part of europe and nato, want to be operators on the global stage. but want to see business friendly policies in france. they're part of the establishment. that whole new political elite that emmanuel macron brought
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into french politics in a big way, and basically knighted them. they are now gone. they're humiliated in front of the public stage. this election, this goes to show that the far left and far right, those populist ends of the spectrum, are getting the attention, and the votes in this current election cycle and they look like they're going to inherit a lot of political power in france. they're going to make everything that macron wants to do from here on out, particularly with regards to his ambitious domestic policy, extremely difficult. now, french politics is just as divided as american politics, but it's more fragmented. so they don't have these two big tent parties dominating the field. they have smaller parties speaking for narrower parts of the electorate. so every time he wants to do something, every time any legislator wants to do something, they have to cobble together and negotiate just with horse trading to try to fit together some sort of agreement
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from all of these disparate parties. it will make everything in french politics and government even slower and more frustrating than it was before. >> was this expected? i know the far-right party, marie le pens' party did better this time, although she did lose. was it expected that he would not get an absolute in these elections? >> well, i mean, this is the thing that emmanuel macron hadn't been so engaged. and this was the lowest turnout for french politics in a generation. so it was less than 50%. so it just goes to show that, you know, he wasn't engaged. the public didn't seem engaged. and that's why, you know, i think a lot of people who were observing this said that emmanuel macron, this was his election to lose and he lost it. even though he was expected to retain his plurality, a lot of
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people read the room pretty well, those who observe french politics closely, and were saying the electorate is not amused with emmanuel macron. one of the big things that fell flat was the way in which he seemed to almost ignore these legislative elections and the ls and the presidential elections that preceded them. even though he won both, he spent most of his time acting the diplomat, saving the day on an international level and a lot of people thought he was showing a sense of arrogance and that this was going to be a crowning glory for him and the french voters would hand him this election and this victory because he needed to do more things like solve the problems in ukraine and the voters were not happy about that and they wanted a more populist, closer political culture. >> when he won the election i'm surprised there wasn't a change
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of pace in terms of the politicking to avoid just what happened here. matt bradley. matt, thank you very much. the governing body for swimming fina, f-i-n-a voted on an effective ban on trans women competing in competitions. we'll talk about the impact this ruling will have on the sport, but first here's nbc news correspondent, erin mclachlan. >> thomas wins the ncaa champion. >> just before leah thomas became the first to win an ncaa division 1 title, the governing body is imposing new restrictions for trans women. fina which partners with the international olympic committee effective today saying trans swimmers must have completed their transition by age 12 to be able to participate in competitions and athletes would
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have to prove they've continuously suppressed their testosterone levels. >> it is a policy that we need to introduce in order to preserve the competitive fairness of our event. >> it does not impend ncaa athletes, athletes who show signs of puberty will no longer be able to compete in the championships. some olympic swimmers speaking out. >> thomas completed 34 months of hormone replacement therapy surpassing the 12-month requirement to compete on the women's team, but her participation in the pool was met with controversy saying thomas had an unfair physical advantage, an idea she refuted on nbc news. >> trans women are a minority of athletes and we haven't seen a
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massive wave of trans women dominating. >> i am devastated by this decision. >> he is the first trans athlete to compete for an ncaa division 1 mens team. >> what does this mean for leah and her future? >> knowing her, i imagine she will fight as much as she can for her right to compete just like anybody else. >> erin mclachlan, thank you very much, and joining me is caditha, thank you for being here. there are no women competing in world swimming championships, no trans women. is this a solution in search of a problem? >> i really think that's what's going on here. there is not some grand, existential threat to women's sports caused by trans women's participation. the grand existential threats is not putting women's sports on tv, basically and not supporting them. so i think we have this one woman, leah thomas who has
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unfortunately become the face of a problem that doesn't really exist. >> yeah. >> and she's being used as a peg in these culture wars that we're seeing around this country and around the world. >> it's not just for professional sports or college sports. this is also going down to elementary school sports and you know, youth sports where there are rules against trans kids playing sports. >> so fina only affects legislation. more than half of the stateses in the united states have introduced legislation to ban trans athletes at the youth level, as well and the psychological effect really can't be overstated. the fact that these are kids and athletes who are being denied their own existence while being denied competition and it's really sad to see and it's really unfortunate and we are likely to see this in other sports around the world. >> are you expecting -- i was going to ask, are you expecting to see another sport? the answer is yes. what about this new category,
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this open category that fina said it may develop in future swimming competitions. what do you make of that given that there's not very many trans athletes competing? >> i mean, you'll end up having swim meets with one or two athletes in an entirely different category and the psychological effect of categorizing trans women as not women is really devastating and this is not a conversation we're having about trans men athletes and this is going back to assumptions of physiological assumptions that don't have proper data behind it. >> what do you make of the women swimmers involved who say, listen, my body is just fundamentally different from someone who has gone through puberty as a boy? >> that's not untrue, necessarily, but there are cisgender women who also have testosterone levels. i'm someone who has poly cystic ovarian syndrome and our testosterone is above average and in the legislation barriers
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that are being passed right now would not qualify us even though we are cisgender women. it's a complicated issue and emotionally charged and the fact of the matter is this is about dignity and humanity. >> well said. appreciate your time. that's going to do it for me right now. "deadline: white house" starts right after this quick break. hs right after this quick break what do you want to leave behind? that's your why. it's your purpose, and we will work with you every step of the way to achieve it. (music) and we will work with you every step of the way who said you have to starve yourself to lose weight? who said you can't do dinner? who said only this is good? and this is bad? i'm doing it my way. meet plenity. an fda -cleared clinically proven weight management aid for adults with a bmi of 25-40 when combined with diet and exercise. plenity is not a drug - it's made from naturally derived building blocks and helps you feel fuller and eat less. it is a prescription only treatment and is not for pregnant women or people allergic to its ingredients. talk to your doctor or visit myplenity.com to learn more.
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hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. the crucial mission undertaken by the january 6th select committee to leave, no doubt, in the hearts and minds of the american people about donald trump's significant role in what amounts to a failed coup is poised to take another huge leap forward this week. whereas last week the focus centered on what amounts to the end of the story, at least for now, trump's failed effort to pressure vice president mike pence into overturning the results of a free, fair and secure election. tomorrow we'll learn more about the dark and dirty legal scheming that came before all of that. that includes a similar effort to pressure state and local officials into overturning their results. you might recall the most well-known chapter of this particular escapade, a phone call and a pressure campaign to election officials in georgia dated january 2 ndz. >> i just want to find
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