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it is the fifth hearing. the committee says trump was trying to corrupt the department so it would do his bidding and help overturn the 2020 election. witnesses will include former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen, former acting deputy a.g. richard donahue and former assistant a.j. steve engel. a documentary filmmaker will also speak to the committee tomorrow deposed separately. the committee says they have hours of video alex holder shot of donald trump, his family and his inner circle on or around january 6th. the video has not yet been seen publicly. it's reported that ivanka told the film crew that people were questioning the sanctity of our elections and that her father should continue to fight until
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every legal recommend dip is exhausted, a tone different than she reported in her interview before the january 6th panel. >> and the temperature yesterday underscored how ugly and scary it was to be an elections worker or public official who either came under donald trump's scrutiny or refused to bow to his pressure to overturn the results. arizona house speaker republican rusty bowers described the hoards of people, some with weapon, who would show up at his home. and pole workers shea moss and her mother ruby freeman gave gut wrenching accounts of the threats so unrelenting that they were forced into hiding. >> yes, a lot of threats wishing
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death upon me, telling me that i'll be in jail with my mother and saying things like be glad it's 2020 and not 1920. >> there is no where i feel safe, nowhere. do you know how it feels to have the president of the united states to target you, the president of the united states is supposed to represent every american, not to target one. >> with the slow burn of testimony there is new word today that the committee is now considering more hearings further into the summer with member jamie raskin pointing to new evidence and more witnesses emerging every day. joining me now is capital punishment correspondent ali
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vitale. everybody, the president is going to speak in a moment on gas prices and a federal gas tax holiday so we're going to go there when he comes in. ali, i want to sneak in a question on the january 6th hearings. a bit of news on tomorrow and this filmmaker. i wonder if we're going to see any of that video despite him not appearing publicly and also what's the deal with the hearings now going into july? >> reporter: those are all really good questions. i imagine when it comes to that documentary footage, if we don't see it tomorrow, we could likely see it in july. the fact that they're pushing into july tells us they're still gathering things they think will be materially important enough that -- we were counting to seven -- >> if you can stick around,
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please do. let us dip into the president. we're going to come back. don't worry. >> every time you go to the gas station and fill your tank the federal government charges an 18 cents per gallon of gas that you purchase and 24 cents tax for diesel. we use it for the highway trust fund to keep our highways going. but what i'm proposing is suspending the federal gas tax without affecting the highway trust fund. here's how we do that. with the tax revenues up this year and our deficit down over $1.6 trillion this year alone, we'll still be able to fix our highways and bring down prices of gas. we can do both at the same time. but suspending the 18 cents federal gas tax for the next 90 days, we can bring down the price of gas and give families just a little bit of relief. i call on the companies to pass
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this along, every penny of this 18 cent reduction to the consumers. there's no time now for profiteering. there are a number of other proposals by democrats in the house and the senate and i hope my call for action can help move those proposals forward as well. but we can also cut gas prices even more in another way. that's why the second action i'm taking is calling on states to either suspend the state gas tax as well or find other ways to deliver some relief. state gas taxes average 30 cents per gallon. already some states have acted. in connecticut and new york, the governors have temporarily suspended their gas tax as well. in illinois and colorado, governors delayed theirs to give families a bit more breathing room as well.
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in minnesota governor walsh proposes to give rebates to help. and that's to our historic economic recovery that fortified state budgets and states are now in a strong position to be able to afford to take some of these ambassadors. i fully understand a gas tax holiday alone is not going to fix the problem but it will provide families some immediate relief as woe. >> third, i'm calling on the industry to refine more oil into gasoline and bring down gas prices. let me explain. i know my republican friend claim we're not producing enough oil and i'm limiting oil production. quite frankly that's nonsense. here's the truth. just this month america produced
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12 million barrels of oil per day. that's the highest -- that's higher than average under my predecessor and we're on track to set a new record for production next year. plus i've added to that supply of oil by releasing a record 1 million barrels per day from what's called the strategic petroleum reserves. in total it's 240 million barrels to boost global supply. republicans falsely claim i'm blocking production on federal lands. again, that's nonsense. the industry has more approved permits for production on federal lands than they can possibly use. that's a fact. my administration also directed the sale of gasoline using home
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grown biofuels, ethanol, e-15, which will boost gasoline supplies and lower the price at thousands of gas stations across america. i welcome a group of nearly two dozen ols toing the ot om line is we are setting records in terms of american energy production, supplementing with the oil reserves. the isn't production alone. the problem is the refining of that oil into gas at the pump. during last week i sent a letter to the ceo of the largest oil refining companies asking them to work with my administration to bring refineries back on the
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secretary i hope they'll come up to the table with some real ideas and practical steps in the near term. and i'm prepared to act quickly and decisively on the recommendations if they make sense to address the immediate challenge in front of us and the american people. finally, when the cost of oil does come down, we need the price at the gas stations, what they charge at the pump, to come down as well. for example, in the last two weeks of price of oil has fallen by more than $10 a barrel. normally this will reduce the cost at the pump about 25 cents a gallon. yet so far gas stations have only reduced prices by a few cents a gallon. some haven't reduced prices at
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all. the price of a barrel of oil goes up, it doesn't take much time for the price at the pump to go up. so let's be honest with one another. my message is simple. to the companies running gas stations and setting those prices at the pump, this is a time of war, global peril, ukraine, these are not normal times. bring down the price you are charging at the pump to reflect the cost you are paying for the product. do it now. do it today. your customers, the american people, they need relief now. so let me summarize. today i'm calling for a federal gas tax holiday, state gas tax holiday for the equivalent relief to customers. oil companies that use their profits to increase refining
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capacity rather than buy back their own stock, gas stations that pass along the decree -- the decrease in oil prices to lower prices at the pump and together these actions could help drop the price at the pump by up to $1 a gallon or more. it doesn't reduce all the pain but it would be a big help. i'm doing my part. i want the congress,s state and industry to do their part as well. let's remember how we got here. putin invaded ukraine since the start of the war in you gas prices have risen by almost $2 a gallon in the united states and sometimes more around the world. it wasn't just putin's invasion
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of ukraine. it was the refusal of the united states and the rest of the free world to let putin get away with something we haven't seen since world war ii. i said at the time siding with ukraine during the most serious aggression in europe since world war ii, defending freedom, defending democracy was not going to go without cost for the person people and the rest of the he in the cost of military equipment, economic assistance, hume taurn russia is also one of the largest oil producers in the world. we cut off russian oil into the united states and our part nrs we could have turned a blind eye to putin's i believed then and i
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believe now that the free world had no choice. america could not stand by and the west could not have stood by, although some suggested at the time and just watch putin's tanks roll into ukraine and seize a sovereign country. if we did stand by, putin wouldn't have stopped. putin would have kept going and we'd face an even steeper price. and it wasn't just me. the american people understood. the american people rose to the moment. the american people did what they always have done, defend freedom around the world. they chose to stand with the people of ukraine. we had near unanimous in the congress, democrats, republicans and independents for supporting ukraine, knowing full well the cost. so for all those republicans in congress criticizing me today for high gas prices in america,
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are you now saying we were wrong to support u are you saying we would rather have lower gas prices in america than putin's iron fist in europe in. >> i don't believe that. i but the simple truth is gas prices are up bm because of a ruth lus fj we need to grow and harness more energy here at home. let's lower the price of electric vehicles so we never have to pay at the pump in the first place. major auto companies are preparing for a 50% future sales to be electric vehicles by 2030.
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100% by 2035. we're already building secure supply chains to build these electric vehicles here in america. and we're investing almost $100 billion in public transit and rail. all the studies so that it will take millions of cars off the road, significantly reduce pollution if there's a serious transportation system available. let's keep accelerating our deployment of home grown resources, sources of energy like solar and wind and nuclear and hydrogen and carbon capture stories and keep developing battery technology so we can store that power we need when the sun doesn't shine or the wind doesn't blow. folks, let's make sure we're never again forced to pay the price of a menacing dictator halfway around the world. >> we can deal with this issue.
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even as we lead the world in defending democracy and standing up to a brutal auto democrat, -- autocrat, there are actions we it take to help mention now. we are taking them, a federal gas tax holiday, state gas tax holiday, bringing back refineries, getting them back online. we just have to keep going. i promise you i'm doing everything possible to bring price of energy down, gas prices down. i want to make sure we all work on this together. may god bless you all and may god protect our troops. thank you very much. you heard him call for a three-month pause on the gas tax. he readily admitted that this isn't, you know, a big solution to it all but he does say it
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will bring some relief, a little breathing room for families, it should. he tried to instruct the oil companies to make sure that it's passed down to the consumer, that the oil companies don't just use that themselves he tried to shame them a little bit, saying this is a time of war, not a normal time, help people out, people are suffering. joining me are mike memoli. it seems like to me, mike, he understand that people are going to be happy about the gas tax holiday but they know it's not going to make a huge deal. i was intrigued at the way that he went after oil companies so publicly. >> yeah, katy. i think it's really important to note this is the most fulsome effort that i can see to date by this president to try to diagnose what the problem is here, what caused gas prices to increase so rapidly, so high, to also respond to a number of the
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republican but also the oil industry criticisms of his administration trying to pass the blame on to him. and to really level with the american people about the fact that, yes, some of this is a direct result of his decision, of the west's decision to stand on the side of ukraine here and it's a decision that he does stand by. this is a president who i heard so often say in the past citing one of those familial expressions that i don't need government to solve every problem, i need them to understand it. he also wants people to understand the causes of it. you heard him talk about the oil companies who are making record profits at a time that americans are increasingly concerned about record costs. you heard him talking about potential steps that could make a difference here. and i emphasize could, katy because it's important to note as the president is asking congress to act here, we can talk about republican criticism all day but democrats
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criticizing the plan, steny hoyer saying there may not be the votes in the house, pete defazio calling this an insufficient response. this could very well be dead on arrival in congress but this president in an election year needs to be seen as taking a kitchen sink approach, doing just about everything he can to try to deal with this problem while also leveling with the fact that there are no easy fixes here. >> heard maybe this is not the best way to go about this. that being said these are crazy times we're living in to put it mildly, robin. who is to blame for the cost of oil being so oil right now. is it because of president biden's policies or are there other effects going on? >> did you see this back and forth between biden and the ceo
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of chevron? back and forth, touchy feely. the executives would be ♪ quit playing games with my heart, with my heart ♪ biden in one breath is telling you you have to be patriotic and do more. in the other breath he wants to decarbonize. you can't just say let's flood the market with all of these refined markets. this takes years of visibility and years of guidance that the white house is pretty loath to give. >> all right. so what's going to happen now? i like your singing, i was a bit thrown by the singing, even though you warned me you were going to do it. i think a lot of americans will look at the gas companies and say i don't feel bad for you, i don't feel bad for your plans for opening refineries, i don't feel bad for this idea in the
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future that there might be electric cars that would wipe out your business model. if you really want to get into it and exxon and why we are so dependent on oil, you can make a strong argument that exxon is the reason. they changed their corporate model. >> their shareholders are probably -- it's not a state-owned oil company. stephanie would tell you the same thing. they're doing what their shareholders want them to do. >> agreed. so if you are an american right now, what do you take from what the president -- i know you're an american but if you're looking and you're paying $100 $70 at the pump, more than you were paying before, what do you take from what the president just said? >> i mean, demand destruction. you need the economy to fall and for people to consume less for
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the price to fall. we don't see a deluge of refined products and refinery capacity coming online anywhere in the near future. if you look back to 2008 and the gulf war, the economy collapsing is what brought down oil prices and there's very little comfort in that. >> robin, thank you as always for bringing levity in tough times. >> i am sorry. i tried to bring it but it was tough today. >> i'm going to get mem to sing next. that's going to be my goal. let's turn back to the january 6th committee. the panel will hold one more hearing this week. tomorrow it's going to being focusing on donald trump bending his justice department to his will. joining me former federal prosecutor scythia axney.
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>> i can't sing the back street boys to you. but the committee saying they're going to be pushing their remaining hearings into july. chairman thompson just off the floor with reporters explaining a little bit behind that saying they've gotten some additional information from a documentarian that they want to review as well as documents from the national archives. he was also asked about additional hearings. he left open the doors that always the possibility. and congresswoman cheney ended with the big request for cippollone was asked to testify and he was asked if ginni thomas had responded.
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i was told last week that she was sent an invitation to appear and said yes to responding. we said to a conservative outlet that she looked forward to clearing things up with the committee but, again, all of this simply underscores the fact that as things are changing and moving in realtime, this committee is adapting its hearing schedule and this was always the challenge, laying out the fact while fact finding means that ultimately you could have to pivot and that's what we're seeing right now. >> so i was peaked today but something i read in pump bowls. expand on that. >> there were two things that preceded this, katy. number one, nancy pelosi and democrats and republicans did a commission. they negotiated a commission together on which republicans and democrats would basically have equal say. that bill passed the house. they blocked it in the senate. republicans blocked it in the
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senate and kevin mccarthy turned against it after one of his negotiators negotiated with that man on the screen, bennie thompson, for that commission. so then pelosi, nancy pelosi, the speaker, blocked jim jordan and jim banks and mccarthy said we're not going to participate. now across the board everyone realizes the historic nature of these hearings and republicans are saying and most notably former president trump who i spoke to yesterday are saying we should have been a part of this, we should have been at the table, we should have had some push back, but there is a level of anger that i think i didn't anticipate but we kind of saw it coming down the pike because democrats and liz cheney and adam kinzinger both seated by nancy pelosi, important to say that, are laying out a clear set
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of facts with an amazing array of videos and testimony that is just almost airtight, katy. it's absolutely amazing. by the way, these are republicans who are testifying to these things, people who worked for the president of the united states, donald trump, people who advised him, his lawyers, his counsel, his advisers. so republicans are having a little i guess buyer's or seller's remorse in this case for not being a part of this. >> carol, what do you make of that? >> i think what's interesting on jake's roaring is it follows on donald trump's own complaints. i feel like i know donald trump is peeved and annoyed with this hearing and feels like it being successful when he says i need equal time, which he said recently in a tweet. he also has been complaining to allies and friends that this presentation is starting to get a little close to the skin for
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him. his daughter now on record as having said she believed the and then of course to see a slew of rebs, all of the witness essex september for maybe one or two are republican officials who say, a, donald trump pressured me to do something i knew was illegal, two, i'm now in fear for my life and my family is, too, and increasingly we've lawmakers and witnesses are starting to realize they may need to amp up their own security protection in the wake of donald trump and his allies trying to target them for disputing donald trump's account of what actually happened january 6th and what happened with the election, uniformly electing joe biden president.
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>> that's what i was going to linger on there because just going back to the day of the insurrection, the moments after it, i remember saying he's done. he's out. he's done. being so disgusted at the time by what was happening and what what and a few hours later, he was accosted at the airport and so was mitt romney. and after that it seemed like all of the republicans started to fall in line behind the president again. i wonder if there is a direct correlation of them supporting him again and fear for their own lives. i talked to lind he said i'm not going to watch them, these are part i san hearings, i'm going
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to go to dinner instead. >> that's what republicans were hoping for. unfortunately, as. there's a dus tint difference in what we've seen the january 6th committee do in terps of traditional storying. the people are suggesting that trump asked them to do things that was not proper, not legal, not honest and that is very not not honest and that is ver . if you are in the minority, you have sfab i mean, that's what the minorities' prerogative is in most congressional hearings. they don't have the opportunity now and that's kind rng in their
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draw concede that their presence wouldn't necessarily be productive, it would be to push back in what this mccarthy made his decision here and then the question is does this matter in the elections? i don't know. nobody knows. but the reality is it matters for history, number one. and, number two, people will be voting on gas prices and inflation. that seems logical. but there might also be people interested in democracy and polls are beginning to show that. >> i think you're right. you can care about both things at the same time and who knows how this is going to play out. cynthia, let's talk about what we're going to see tomorrow, the
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pressure campaign at the d.o.j. we're will personal an environmental lawyer. at some point there was pushback and jeffrey says why don't you just go home. who was behind him and who else can he have frfrm you're essentially seeing the prosecution of trump without defense lawyers and without the rules of evidence. who gets to do that in a trial? nobody. that's what's going on here. everything is coming in. i would expect tomorrow will be blockbuster and also o i hope
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that sip lonie will a in many of these meetings there were people outside the white house that were there angd it and he doesn't really have an executive privilege argument. i which he would let the american people know what's happened. >>. >> let's bring in a member of the january 6th select committee right now, democratic congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida. thank you very much for being with us. so tomorrow what should we expect? >> well, tomorrow's hearing will follow look. >> to get the department of justice to say that there was
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fraud in so you'll hear more about that as we lay out the evidence. >> what about the moving of the hearings in july? can you tell me who is. >> >> this is an investigation that is online going so we are if he frp you know as the documentarian has could ford to a snrm so it just makes sense for to us take a nochl and to be sure we were able to lay out all the facts as we have found them. >> ginny thomas. will there be a subpoena? >> i believe she said she looks forward to speaking with the
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committee and we look forward to speaking with her. >> have you reached out with her through the committee? >> i'm not going to talk about the specifics that the committee has done and what about pat pollone, any movement on that or what are the questions you'd want to ask him? >> he was present for a lot of the conversations where legal advice was dispensed to the president. as we heard from other people who were a party to those meetings, oftentimes the advice that the president was been was that the things he wanted to do didn't comport with the constitution or with the law. i think it really important that we do hear directly from mr. cipollone and the american people get to hear from him as to what husband advice to the
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president was in a variety of meetings that led up to the efforts to overturn the election and what happened on january 6. >> the video that you have ahold of from alex. is it video of donald trump discussing trying to overturn the election? is it video of him talking about january 6? >> i haven't had a chance to view all of the many hours of the video yet, but i think that it is video that is relevant and on the tay of january 6th, well some coverage of the after math and the response of people within the trump circle. >> and will we see any of it tomorrow? >> no, i don't think you will. we'll be focused on the pressure campaign to the department of justice. as i said, you know, we're receiving lots of different information as we continue this
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investigation and just need some time to process some of it. but we'll have our hearing on thursday and then we will resume hearings after the july 4th district work week and break. >> just one last question, are you worried about the gap between the last hearing on thursday and the next hearing? are you worried that people will forget what they had heard before? >> no, i'm not worried about that at all. in fact, i think it's important that we allow the american people to process the information they have seen to date in all of these hearings. we have put out quite a bit of information to the american people laying out a narrative of what happened and all of these different efforts pi the former president and then we'll come back and ensure that our future hearings ties into the story that we have told to date and to the facts that we've already laid out. >> congresswoman murphy, thank
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i hope we'll be able to move forward. obviously that will be determined by the membership of how long we spend on the bill. but regardless, i hope we'll be able to pass it. i think it's a significant step in the right direction to deal with the two issues that i think it focusses on, school safety and mental health. >> you heard it, the republican minority leader in the senate saying he supports gun reform legislation, the most significant gun reform legislation in 30 years. as you heard right there, it could get to the president's desk. overnight 14 republican senators joined democrats to formally begin debate on the bill which negotiators hope to pass this week before lawmakers go on a two-week recess for july 4th. the bill would expand child and health and mental health services, offer red flag grants to every state and close the
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boyfriend loophole. joining me now is capitol hill news correspondent ali raffa. what are you hearing? >> we know this bill is being reviewed by the congressional budget office. we're expecting a vote in the senate on this tomorrow or friday before the senators leave on this two. week, 4th of july recess. right now that's something that senate majority leader chuck schumer says he's planning for and despite the gop support that we saw this bill garner during this vote last night, we saw 14 senate leaders, and what was
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said. >> i don't know. we worked with the nra to listen to their concerns. in the end i think they simply -- they have a membership and a business model that will not allow them to support any legislation. and so i understand where they're coming from, but i think most people will not allow any outside group to veto good public policy. >> reporter: so, katy, once this goes to the senate, it gets kicked to the house. not pelosi hasn't said whether we should expect a weekend vote to get this done. the reality is this could pass in the house with just democrats falling in line, all of them supporting this bill and we do expect some republicans, around ten or 15 to vote with democrats when this have eventually taken
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up, katy. >> what they really need is the republicans in the senate. allie raffa, thank you very much. >> and it could have been over in three minutes. an investigation into the uvalde police response revealed the officers who responded were equipped to confront the gunman. they carried long guns and ballistics shields and despite earlier claims, the doors to the classroom were unlocked. instead officers waited more than an hour. the head of the texas department of public safety called the response an abject failure. 19 school kids and two teachers were killed. joining me now from austin is nbc news correspondent sam brock. that is haunting. they could have stopped it in three minutes. >> reporter: it's a lot for anybody to process, katy. we have had some developments in the name of searching for truth. roland gutierrez is suing the
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state of texas demanding documentation, whether it's communication between law enforcement agencies, body camera footage, anything that will give lawmakers and the public insight into what happened. we found out that dps will be blaming the embattled police chief in the city of uvalde. they said, wait a minute, there are eight law enforcement agencies. still we're getting conflicting information about the painful 74 minutes. >> using posters, maps. the head of the department of public safety called the police response an abject failure. >> the only thing stopping the dedicated officers from entering the classrooms was the on-site
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demander. >> the police chief said he never considered himself the incident commander. >> you were wrong in the moment. >> reporter: after five hours of closed doors testimony before the texas house. but during an open senate session, pressure evidence from unside robb elementary's hallways, cultivated from surveillance footage, body camera video and audio recording appears to contradict concerns about armor. by 11:35, three uvalde police officers enter with two rifles followed by by arredondo. i need some more fire power. we have pistols and this guy's
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got a rifle. at 11:32, more ballistic shields arrive. >> it could have been used immediately. >> none of the school radios worked in the hallways, only those belonging to border control. and the classroom doors were unlocked, even as they spent 40 minutes to locate a key. >> so the teacher could not lock the door from the inside? >> that's correct. there's no way to lock the door from the inside. >> vest, helmets, anything you can think of, they had it. >> reporter: more than a half dozen agencies responded, not just uvalde police. >> it's the perfect storm of what not to do happened in uvalde, texas. >> reporter: katy, as for what's going on today, the mental health services appears to be at the center of today's hearings. governor abbott got somewhere in the neighborhood of $200 million
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last year from mental health services in the state of texas. the texas medical association just testified on these hearings, they're short about a thousand psychiatrists. >> if i was not on tv right now and just talking with my friends, would be saying what the heck. but not with that word. sam brock, thank you. tony, thanks for being with us. what the heck. what's going on here? >> i mean, i think in the minds of many people there is hopefully a search for the truth, but i think there's also an effort by some people at some moments to obfuscate the truth and try to bury it. i think that's one of the imagine issues that we're confronting here is how much truth is going to get out and when that's going to happen and i can tell you the people of uvalde desperately want and need that truth. there is a first for as much
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knowledge as possible in this case. >> you know, i keep going back to those first days, even the day after when there was that glowing news conference inside the theater with the governor and all the state officials saying they did everything they could and if not for the actions of law enforcement, more lives would have been lost. and it seems that every time people poke holes in an explanation, that they were lying. >> i mean, i think that in the most charitable way that you could think that, well, maybe they were just acting on some sort of misinformation, i mean, we have spent some time deconstructing exactly what happened and why the governor made those comments that you were referring to and our reporting here on the ground in texas is that much of the information was based on
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statements that the police chief gave the texas department of public safety. it's striking that in that room right before that news conference on the second day, the day after the shooting, that he and other officials who knew so much more about this response apparently did not say anything, did not pipe up based on a number of people inside that room that we had talked to. charitably you could say there was just confusion and this was the fog of war but on the other end of the spectrum, there is that very idea that there were forces working from the word go to try to bury this information, which we're now seeing seep out and painfully. >> i think what we're going to find out next is who exactly was trying to bury it. i don't know who the person was who was trying to keep everything under wraps, though
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looking at arendondo, there will be some attention there. there already is. i can't imagine the pain of the parent and the loved ones here knowing it could have been stopped in three lives would have likely been saved. thank you so much for being with us. i appreciate it. i appreciate your reporting. coming up next, what doctors want you to know about the covid shot for kids 5 and under. covid covid shot for kids 5 and under.t. us. and in it. mostly. here to meet those high standards is the walgreens health and wellness brand. over 2000 high quality products. rigorously tested by us. real world tested by you. and delivered to your door in as little as one hour.
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our ancestors had power, our ancestors had hope and our ancestors had ambition. born in 1847, formally enslaved, started buying land, was in the house of representatives. we didn't know our family was part of black reconstruction. exactly. okay, seriously. finding out this family history, these things become anchors for your soul. after a long wait, vaccines are being rolled out for those 5 and under including in new york where there's special vaccination sites. that's where we find dr. peter ko tez.
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so what has the turnout been? >> reporter: it's been steady. not an overwhelming number of people, i bust i don't think authorities are expecting that. there are newspaper reports with the two vaccines, only something like 4 million doses have been order by states. you consider that 18 million children who are in the age group of 5 and below. what are the parents saying? listen to away one parent told me. >> we have been waiting this whole time. he has an older brother. and it's just going to give us the peace of mind to get out there and not have to worry about this as much. >> never any hesitancy on your part? sfwr zero. >> are you paying to the science? >> paying attention to the doctors, reading a all the information, reading all the articles that come out from public health. my understanding the risk from covid is much higher than any risk from the vaccine, which i
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understand are minimal. and just complete faith in all the public health officials that have guided us through this pandemic. >> reporter: one of things that the health commissioner of new york city department of health said to us here today is there are no long-term negative effects that they have been able to detect of any children who have gotten the vaccine so far. so they insist that if participants are having concerns and worries, talk to your doctor or you can call the city health hotline for more information. >> always talk to your doctor about all of this. we're going to talk to one of our resident doctors. there's some parent who is are nervous. they want to wait to see how this goes. can you understand that thinking? >> i can. i wish all fathers and parents, he was terrific, but that looks like he's going to be the exception. if you look at the 5 to
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11-year-old vaccinations only about 30% of americans have accepted vaccinating 5 to 11-year-olds. down here in the southern part of the united states f you look at louisiana, mississippi, others, we're looking at 11 prg. so likely the percentage of parents that's going to vaccinate 6 to 5-year-olds is going to be less than that. maybe even in the single digits in the southern part of the united states. so we have a huge amount of advocacy to do, a lot of education to do. so it's going to be a long road and take a lot of time. that's where we have to put our emphasis. >> so what are you telling parents who are saying i'm not so sure? what words are you useing? >> i think the most important point, two points one, aside from the safety of the vaccine, it's the fact that kids get really sick from covid-19. there's this buzz out there that says covid-19 is not a problem with little kids. it's not true. we have lost about 200 kids
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between the ages of 6 months and 5 years over this pandemic, which is more than our other vaccine preventable diseases. lots of hospitalizations and we still don't know the full impact of long covid. covid-19 is a bad actor and we need to etc. stress on those points. >> thank you so much for being with us. thank you. and that's going to do it for me today here from washington. hallie jackson picks up our coverage, next. e from washington hallie jackson picks up our hallie jackson picks up our coverage, next real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company.
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president biden in just the past hour calling on congress to do something it hasn't done in nearly a century. temporarily lift the federal gas tax to give all of us relief at the gas pump. he's asking states to do the same as we get a new statement from the house speaker on this. spoiler, it's not a full-throateden dorsment. we're talking with one member of senate leadership later on this hour. also watching developments in the january 6th investigation. a shakeup on the schedule. with the the chairman of the house committee is telling our team about the changes and just why they are moving things around with 24 hours to go until the next round of testimony. this time for the one-time acting attorney general and the final days of the presidency. plus with michigan's governor, what she says she will do in the state if the supreme court does overturn roe v. wade. and the nfl commissioner play
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