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washington, and welcome to a special saturday addition of andrea mitchell reports. we begin with breaking news. you are looking live at the supreme court, protesters have been gathering, there -- for the second day while row opponents are separating. public outrage is growing over the court's decision to repeal roe v. wade, which over a half century, guaranteed the right to an abortion. as of today, abortion is banned in at least nine states, with trigger bans in many more sets to take effect soon. last hour, i spoke with
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democratic congresswoman jackie speier about the impact this could have on americas women. >> the constitution, when i went to law school, is a living, breathing document. now, they want to take us back. it is the greatest step back in women's rights in this country in our history, and we can't allow this to be retained. there's many steps we have to take. >> and also today, president biden signing that landmark gun bill into law. the first major legislation addressing gun legislation in decades. this morning, the president enjoying a rare break in the partisan gridlock in capitol hill. >> today, we say more than enough. we say, more than enough. it's time when it's seems to get anything done in washington, we can do something consequential. we can reach compromise on guns.
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we will be able to reach compromise on other critical issues. and after signing that bill, the president immediately was boarding air force one to fly to germany for a g7 summit of world leaders. his top domestic priority is to fight inflation here at home, and it is a global issue, global rise in energy prices, partially because of the war in ukraine. that's at the top of his agenda as he meets with his fellow leaders. and as mr. biden travels overseas, bloomberg is now reporting that germany is going to push for a g7 nation walked back on a key climate change commitment that would stop the financing of overseas fossil fuel projects by the end of the gear. this, according to people familiar with the matter. that draft text shared with bloomberg remains under -- it could change during this week's summit. joining us is ali outside the supreme court, kyle perry in st. louis, and kathy park in jackson, mississippi. ali, let's start with you at the court. what's going on now? >> [noise] andrea, we've been
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out here since about 6:00 in the morning. really, it's just been other members of the media, some early morning joggers, and that's definitely not the case anymore. there are roughly 400 people out here chanting, making sure their voices are heard on both sides of this issue. this nine foot tall fencing outside the supreme court release serving as the frontline of this battle over women's reproductive rights out here. these demonstrators have been largely peaceful today. really, just chanting, sometimes getting in each other's face. they're really remaining nonviolent, so they've ramped up here outside the supreme court. as you could see, there are some going into circles. counter demonstrating against each other. some tears, but the court's decision yesterday to overturn roe v. wade, and some wondering
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how it's even possible that the supreme court could strip away a right on, a nearly 50 year old, right for the first time in this country's history? we talked to so many people out here, people who say that they're frustrated this is even possible, that it opens the door for even more roy writes, supreme court decisions to be stripped away, and you hear from the other side saying they've been waiting years for this. since the beginning that rights to abortion were granted by the constitution. i've spoken to a married couple here today earlier, they actually drove her all the way to cleveland after learning about this decision to strike roe v. wade. listen to their reaction. >> this disproportionately affects women of color, poor women, it's a direct attack on socioeconomic groups that are disparaged already. >> it's disheartening. as time goes on, it's just sad to watch our country devolve. it's like we're supposed to be better as people.
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we're supposed to make this a better country. just to see this happen, it's disheartening. >> that woman there actually told me that the only chance she thinks things could change is through the ballot box in november. the midterm elections, she said, the will to drive friends and families to the polls to make sure they get their vote that. that's really effective. -- we're seeing a reaction to the supreme court decision yesterday to overturn roe v. wade. >> thanks so much. ali roiphe, obviously, hard to work there in that noisy end very loud crowd there. kyle perry in st. louis, missouri, one of nine states with trigger laws that have -- after roe is overturned. >> hi, andrea. we understand that, at least, according to the attorney general, was the first of those nine to make providing a woman
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and abortion illegal here. it was the provider, the doctor, who could face those felony charges. 5 to 15 years is the penalty that could be handed down here. i'm outside the planned parenthood in st. louis, which was the only location which women could receive an abortion in mystery. they notified the department of health about 20 minutes after that decision came down that after the attorney general sign that trigger law that was passed in 2019, they were notifying the department of health that they were seizing operations, or at least, providing that procedure for the first time in 50 years. we saw protests last night outside this location. representative cori bush helped lead those protests. i know she was on your show yesterday, sharing her personal story about being raped at a young age, at the age of 17, and coming here to this location to receive an abortion, talking about how her life was forever difference because of that procedure. after the protest, i had a chance to speak to some of the demonstrators, asking them what they would do now. we heard so many of them say it was important to get out and be
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a part of the political process. take a listen. >> right now, there's so many people who have moved either back home or two states that are traditionally red, and now is the time where there is more, i would say, blue people in red states, and that's why it's so important, i think all of us agree that voting is our number one issue right now. >> women should have the right regardless. it doesn't matter if it's a horrible, horrible reason or just somebody wants to do it, every single person's right to do what they want to do with their bodies. >> and andrea, representative bush making the point to people in the crowd that if people in missouri had an appointment either yesterday or this weekend, they could go to illinois. obviously, the governor there is making it a priority to preserve the right to an abortion in that state, but there's a limited number of places in illinois as well, and regionally, as this plays out. some of these trigger laws go into effect. of course, those sites are going to go -- it's going to get harder and
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harder to make in the appointments, and as you have been talking about, the travel. it could be very difficult. andrea? >> thank you very much, kyle perry in missouri. and two senators today, in a new op-ed in the new york times, are calling for the president to declare a public health emergency to try to protect abortion access for americans. joining us now is one of those senators, democrat tina smith of minnesota. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, andrea. >> thank you. how would you declare -- how declaring a health emergency continue access for abortions, now that so many states are making it a felony? >> what we want to do is to urge the president and the administration, to use all the executive powers they have to protect access to abortion care wherever abortion care remains legal. the supreme court has spoken, but they do not get the last word. that is what elizabeth and i were focusing on in our commentary. here's one example of something
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the administration has already done. yesterday, they made it clear that's fda rules around the safety and effectiveness and the guidelines for using medication for abortion, that those rules preempt rules states might ask. so, in states where abortion is still legal, medication abortion still needs to be available. i introduce legislation to make sure that's put into law. that's an example of the things that the white house can do to protect all of the ways that's women have access to abortion care. but it's only going to be in those states where abortion is legal, and that's the tragedy of this supreme court decision. >> so, it's there anything that you as a senator can do? you, elizabeth warren, and others who are advocating for some way to ameliorate this for women who need and want to have an abortion for medical reasons and other reasons? what else can be done, given the fact that you can't seem to
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break that 60 vote filibuster requirements? >> that is exactly right. that's exactly right, and. forget in the united states senate, because of our rules, which i think should be changed. you are only able to pass legislation if you can get an agreement among 60 senators. that's not happening because republicans blockade so many important pieces of legislation. what we need to do is we need to look. and a full throttle approach across the board, what executive action can retake, and what can individuals do to support planned parenthood and other clinics around the country, where abortion is still legal to help people get to those places and to help them protect that access? then, as we saw people, citizens out there across the country are saying you need to use your vote. roe v. wade will be on the ballot, and in just a few months, in november of 2022 and -- our strong if we use them, and so much of our effort is going to be focused on getting people
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out to vote and making sure their voices are heard. >> i want to talk to you about the confirmation process, because the new york times is reporting today that its notes taken by staff during republican susan collins 2018 meeting with supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh, these notes indicate that kavanaugh said, roe is 45 years old, it has been reaffirmed many times, lots of people care about is a great deal, and i try to demonstrate i understand real world consequences. i am and, i am a don't rock about kind of judge. i believe in stability and in the team of nine we know that we at msnbc have verified this notes, but susan collins separately has put out a statement saying that justice kavanaugh this slide her vote in her sworn testimony in a private meeting. do you think this will affect public attitudes towards the court, respect for the court? >> well, i have a lot of
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thoughts about this. i have served in the senate when justice kavanaugh's nomination was going through. i never had any doubt that he would be a vote to overturn roe. all you had to do was look at what the president, then president of the united states, had said. he was intent on appointing anti choice judges. justice kavanaugh and justice coney barrett were vetted by the federalist society, whose mission is to put conservatives extreme judge on the united states supreme court. i think it is a politicization of the court. we first are meant to understand that -- i think it's one of the reasons that we see such low credibility for the supreme court right now. this is why the doctrine -- is a legal term, but it basically means you don't change the direction of the supreme court based on the political or policy choices of the supreme court. the past presidents -- rule.
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it's why it's so important, and why the actions of this court and the alito opinion just go and undermine that. i think it dramatically damages the credibility of this court. >> your colleague, your mocratic colleague, jo mahin, says he's a lawrence that justices kavanaugh and gorsuch voted to overturn roe. after testifying, they believe the case was settled legal precedent. manchin said he would support legislation to codify roe, but i don't think he's changed his position on the filibuster. your colleague, nancy klobuchar told me yesterday that without the filibuster, that's not codifying roe. that's not gonna happen. >> that's exactly right. amy, that's exactly right. the filibuster rule basically says you have to have 60 members of the senate in order to pass a piece of legislation. mind you, understand that when mitch mcconnell change the filibuster rule so it doesn't apply to supreme court
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justices. it's certainly okay, in their, mind to put a lifetime appointment on the supreme court with a simple majority, but not to codify the basic protections of roe v. wade into law. so, i think that is inconsistent. i think after two debates, the majority should. rule that have state legislatures and city councils and most governing bodies around the world function. and if the senate doesn't function that way, it means we're unable to take action to put into law what the vast majority of americans want. in this case, to protect roe v. wade. this isn't some sort of out in the world, i think something like two thirds of americans say they believe abortion should be legal in most or all circumstances. >> senator tina smith from minnesota, thank you so much. >> thanks, andrea. >> and abortion in the midterms, the political impact. how much effect to the supreme court decision half on races in pennsylvania, michigan, georgia,
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news on the protests of over the supreme court decision to overturn roe v. wade. demonstrators are gathering in boston and other cities at this hour to make sure that their voices are heard. those for and against the ruling are showing up in washington, d.c.. the interactions initiated a debate over women's rights across the country. the only abortion clinic that is preparing to start down. mississippi is one of several states with a trigger law in place, that forces the senate to close in less than two. weeks mississippi is where the decision started. the case that led to yesterday's ruling overturning rural roe v. wade. kathy's in front of that clinic in jackson, mississippi. kathy, how are people reacting? there is the clinic shut down now? >> no, actually, andrea, the
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days are numbered here at this clinic. as you mentioned, this is a trigger law state. essentially, there is a ten-day window for the attorney general to certify the ruling that came down by the supreme court. the clinic is still open. we are seeing a lot of folks going in and out of this facility today. tensions are certainly running high. in fact, we are told that protesters were out as early as 4:00 this morning. there is more police activity this afternoon as well. they want to make sure that things are staying calm and peaceful. for the most part, it has been. earlier today, we had moments where it got a little heated. we had a chance to speak with individuals on both sides of this debate. let's take a listen. >> obviously, we are happy about it. we are still killing babies in. there it is still going on. >> there was a lot of tension yesterday. we have a lot of them out there. we have a lot of warnings.
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we do not have ladders every day. there are a lot more over here. >> volunteers at this clinic are letting folks know that this clinic is still open for business. however, as i mentioned earlier, andrea, their days are numbered. they have a ten-day window. then they will be officially closed. they knew the state would would close. they are working behind the scenes to open up another clinic at another location in new mexico. they have been raising money to help women seeking abortions legally and safely beyond the borders of mississippi. looking ahead, the big concern now, especially among doctors at this clinic, they said earlier that they fear that there will be more miscarriages in this community and that we should point out that they might disproportionately impact women of color in the state of mississippi. the women who seek abortions
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around 70% are black and brown women. there is that concern there. there is growing fear that women will take these abortions into their own hands and engage with their own lives, andrea. >> a serious concern. thank you so much, cathy clark, in jackson, mississippi. the supreme court decision is raising stakes in competitive midterms across the country. pennsylvania, for example. the candidate for governor, the current attorney general, shapiro, is facing mastriano. mastriano is against the abortion ban. no exception. he is a republican legislator ready to go along. in georgia, trump backed republican and football icon, herschel walker, is now attacking the current georgia senator for supporting abortion rights. democratic governor for senate tim ryan is running against j.d. vance in that state. they are protesting outside the high court yesterday. >> we have to have a big election this year. it cannot be one of.
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it has to be a sustained movement of americans expanding rights. same sex marriage, you have a kid that is married, they are coming after your kid next. everyone needs to be aware of that. >> that was tim ryan with my colleague. joining us now is adrienne and rob. democratic -- to the biden harris campaign. and kurt bardella, adviser to the dnc and dccc. kurt, talk about the impact that this decision is going to have on the state races for states like pennsylvania, georgia, ohio, michigan, you have states with republican legislators who have been trying to stop abortion procedures and have been stuffed by democratic incumbents. >> andrea, we saw in 2018 and in 2020, the power of mobilization when the suburban women come out to vote for democrats. here are the way that extremely -- extreme republicans have handled it --
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this is for issues for them to show up and vote for. there is a rule in politics, never do anything that incites and activate your opponents base. with their dramatic overreach here, republicans have done just that. for all the prognostication about the midterm is going to be a disaster for democrats, historically things are against us, here we have time and again republicans acting in a way to repeat what we saw in the early part of the 2010s. they're giving away races because they are going so far out the mainstream of america. they are giving voters no alternative to vote to return to sanity. it is going to be for democrats. >> let me play devils advocate for a moment here. this is on the politics of this, adrian. a u.s. today poll shows that even the americans whose oppose striking down the landmark roe v. wade decision say that, 59% to 20% of the economy is more important to their vote in november. seven in ten say that the high courts action will not affect who they choose or where they choose to vote.
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it is roe v. wade going to motivate voters more than what they are feeling on the economy and inflation, and how angry they are with the presidents low poll ratings? >> i think, we have to see what polling looks like now that roe has been overturned. i think some of those polls were taken when americans were thinking, maybe this will not happen. it actually has happened now. we see the anger in the streets. we see, in particular, younger voters who are motivated and upset. you just showed a clip of young women at the supreme court saying that their tops are priority is voting and getting their friends to vote. one of the columns -- or the palms we have had with the democratic party is getting younger voters to come out and vote, especially in the general election. obviously, inflation, the economy, these are going to be factors that voters are going to consider going to the polls. in some of these key states, with key races on the ballot, as you just mentioned in
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michigan, georgia, wisconsin, pennsylvania, these are states where a lot of suburban women who flipped seats for democratic in 2018 will come out in 2022. i'm not sure, andrea, what will happen with the house, but i think on a large scale we will mitigate some of the losses that we would've had if this had not been an issue. >> kurt, let's listen for a moment with the president had to say in response to the ruling yesterday. >> this fall, roe is on the ballot. personal freedoms are on the ballot. the right to privacy, liberty, equality, they are all on the ballot. until then, i will do all of my power to protect the women's rights in states where they will face the consequences of today's decision. >> kurt, what do you expect? what do you want to see from the white house in terms of mobilizing on this response? >> well, i would like to see
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the administration utilize and deploy every resource that the federal government level. they need to make sure that the women get the health care that they need, that they have the opportunity to have the privacy that they need. that doctors who treat them are protected. i think they need to get creative, whether it is issuing executive orders. we found a way to get covid test to every american who signed up on a website. maybe there's a way to do that with an fda a portion pill. whatever it takes. we need to show the american people and show our voters that we are willing to step up, we are meant for this moment, we are ready for this fight, and we are going to do everything that we can to incentivize them to keep us in power. and it's not enough to say vote for us. i think that the democratic base needs to see action from the federal government, from their leadership, from democrats. we need to get creative. and more long term, adrian, you know how there is a super majority conservative on the court, there was a gun decision on thursday, then friday have the roe v. wade. there is just greater impact in terms of overturning precedents. what do you expect going
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forward in terms of the nomination process and how the judiciary handles these confirmations? >> andrea, i have certainly seen here that we cannot take someone's word, even if they are under oath of how they are going to act under a certain issue. this is if they are confirmed to supreme court justice. they are taking heed of this and learning a lesson. secondly, andrea, we are looking at the notion of expanding the supreme court that is going to be more and more of a potential issue. it takes an act of congress to do that. we are running out of options. we cannot rely on a supreme court. we are now looking at a lot of decisions that are going to be 63, conservatives six, liberals three. there is going to be no insight there. i think there will be a lot of pressure by lawmakers to expand the courts. we are going to have more progressives on there and we can have a supreme court that acts in favor of the majority of the american people. acts in favor of twhat about th?
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>> i think, andrea, the only way that you're going to be to get more supreme court justices to eliminate the filibuster. there will certainly be more calls for that. there's already a lot of intensive pressure on congress to do that with joe manchin and kristen sinema. they made it very clear. it's a supreme court continues to act in a radical manner on some of these mainstream american issues that will significantly -- there could be a greater pressure on congress and certain senators to ed lemonade the filibuster. let's be clear, if mitch mcconnell gets a hold of the power in the senate, he will let me limit the filibuster immediately. he will pass any legislation he wants to get through. >> adrian, occurred, it's great to see you guys. thank you very much. the new video of former president trump, his family, and other members of the inner circle. what could it mean for the january six committee?
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heading to germany as he boards the plane a couple of hours ago. he is headed to germany for the annual g7 meeting after signing a compromise gun safety law at the white house this morning. this is the day after the supreme court historical reversal the roe v. wade. this is as the seven leading democratic countries face unprecedented global challenges. kelly o'donnell joins us now from austria. she is across the border from germany. last, year covid was among the dominant things. this year there's a lot of other things including a war in ukraine. >> as you know, these kinds of meetings of important leaders tends to spend what is the pulse of the world at the
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moment. president biden will be coming here to talk about ukraine, or to talk about the food insecurity that has been caused by that war, but he comes at a time where there's a lot of unrest at home. there is a lot of emotional turmoil. also, the issues that you have been discussing through the program this morning, and at the country is grappling with, what's stands out is from this day presidents departure is the quietness of that signing ceremony in the white house in the roosevelt room. it was just the first lady at his side for what is a historic legislation. typically, that would be a huge east room advance with advocates, lawmakers who are part of passing a gun related legislation, mental health legislation. something that we have not seen done in a generation. because of the urgency of the moment, also the overwhelming use of what happened with the supreme and all of what is on the presidents plate, he needed to sign the legislation, make a law right, now get on the plane to come here, and could not
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wait for the more traditional larger event. he said it will happen in july. the president is talking about how meaningful this is, after tragedies, advocacy, and how important it was to make what is bipartisan work over many years and then a very intense period of time with his advocacy, even mitch mcconnell's blessing, to make it happen. here is a moment of what the president said earlier today. >> we are about to sign into law a bipartisan gun safety legislation. time is of the essence. lives will be saved. when we return from, europe jill and i will host an event at the white house on july 11th to mark this historic event. many people get killed every day in the streets. the message to us was do strung thing. how many times did you hear that? just do something. for god sake, just do something! today, we did! this bill does not do
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everything that i want. it does include actions that i have long called for that are going to save lives. >> as the president indicated, this is more modest and some had wanted. it is still very significant. the fact that you had 15 republican senators are voting for it and about that many republican house members also supporting it, is a real shift culturally. it will do things like increase background checks for younger gun buyers. it will invest in mental health. it will deal with the issue of gun ownership when there has been domestic violence in a relationship among the many provisions. it is a start on some of the ideas that advocates and lawmakers would have said could believe that they make a difference in some of the kinds of circumstances that we have seen play out in the most tragic and violent ways in the country. a start. more work to do, the president
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would say. this is something that he now brings to europe. he will bring this to meet with the other g7 leaders. with this bipartisan accomplishment, at his back. at the same time, a lot of turmoil is at home based on where the supreme court has done and one other political issues the president faces at home, andrea. >> kelly, i was also struck, having watched so many of those bill signings. it was just the first lady. there was no one to give a pen to, let's say, as i usually pass out those pens. i thought also, in the day after roe v. wade, she might be playing a more significant role in the midterms symbolically that she was there on guns. she traveled to texas and some of these other horrible locations, where these tragedies occurred. we might be seeing more of her as they try to appeal to suburban women to motivate the base. we also point out as you know, jean-pierre, the press
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secretary, was briefing reporters on air force one. this was transmitted for the traveling reporters, that the president, she says, it's against court packing. it is something that some democratic advocates say he should have been against. you still against increasing number of justices. there are so many youthful justices who are going to spend decades more among these conservative supermajority justices. >> the president had a commission to look at this issue. he had not made a firm statement as a president. he was not in favor of it. it is not surprised that he was beyond going nine members of the court. he now has his one placement with a new term that will come this fall with ketanji brown jackson who will now be ascending to the court as she has been confirmed.
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justice breyer is finishing his work as a turn comes to an end. the white house is now saying that the president's position is that he does not support expanding the court. that is an important message at a time when as advocates, as democrats, as people who are engaged on the issue of the supreme court are looking for next steps and what power does the president have, this congress have. expanding the court would be one arguable way to try to change the balance. the white house is saying that it is not in the presidents intention to do that or support that. also, a long shot in terms of the number of votes required to do it. it is quieting that conversation in saying that there will not be support from the white house on that in the wake of all of the upset that has come from the supreme court ruling on roe v. wade for overturning that on a nearly 50-year-old constitutional protection that has now been
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wiped away. what is left? the president is urging congress to codify those reproductive rights and, also, urging states to take action. that will be a way that we will see the battle plan play out politically, and for the president, he has a federal have words to try to protect women to seek those services. >> the beautiful bavarian apps. they do not codify roe v. wade without doing the filibuster rule. the center say that they cannot get 60 votes. that is to be determined. thank you, kelly. safe travels. big meeting is coming up. and now to the january 6th investigation, with chairman bennie thomas delaying more hearings for a couple of weeks until after the congress july 4th recess. we are talking about mid july more likely, after a week of explosive testimony. the update comes as the panel has received new evidence, including hours of evidence from a british filmmaker who'd
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followed president trump and his family in the weeks before and after the 2020 election. before and after the riot and the insurrection on capitol hill. here is a brief look at that docuseries being publicly released later this summer. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ my father, he is very honest. he is who he is. >> he believes everything is doing is right. >> you have to treat people wellness they do not treat me well. and that this case, you have to do more. >> can we talk from in about january six? >> yeah. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> joining us now from capitol hill is ali vitali. that is a highly produced teas. so far, when i've seen, as an insider, very flattering account that you would imagine ivanka, don junior, jarred kushner, and they brought this filmmaker in and this is what they want.
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there could be some news, something that would be an unintended revelation from the president. that has to be seen. . it's a lot publicity, isn't it? >> it was a highly produced easier as you said. i do think that the teaser speaks to why the committee wants to hear from the sky in the first place. it is because he had this kind of access at the pivotal moments that the committee is trying to get as much information as they can. if this documentarian, which he clearly did, have conversations in realtime with ivanka trump, his sons, as well as the former president, that is material that the committee thinks it is worth seeing. that is why they subpoenaed the documentarian last week. it is part of why, as they continue to fact find, they are still getting more information. they are pushing their hearing. they have the time to incorporate the material as they get it. i do think that the thing that was notable was as the documentarian left his demolition with the committee last week, he and his lawyer talked about the fact that
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there could've been inconsistencies between what ivanka trump said to the committee under oath, and what she said to the documentary filmmaker in realtime. it is something that the committee could be exploring. i do think that the larger landscape in congress is that lawmakers, many of whom were in this building, many of whom who have told me, you, in the aftermath, that they feared for their lives on january 6th. there is a really old desire to get to the bottom of what happened here. i know that is what one democratic lawmaker said to you recently. we can play a little bit of that. . i would like to know who was involved in the threat to overturn our democracy. i want to know who almost got me killed on january 6th. i want to know who helped lead or coordinate the insurrection. there's a lot more work that needs to be done. we will be made aware this week about the parallel investigation that is taking place in the justice department. it'll be on a jeffrey plot car lark.
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i hope that this investigation it includes. those among my colleagues who were involved in the insurrection or the attempt to overthrow our country. . >> of course, andrea one of the big revelations out of these hearings is that republican lawmakers asked for pardons from the white house preemptively and in a blackened fashion. you see them on the screen. i've been told by betty thompson, this is not the last that we will hear of these lawmakers. it is entirely possible that there could be more of them. we do not know all of the names yet. again, it also presents the challenge for this committee that there is so much going on in washington right now. you they have had days where the news has dominated the news cycle. they also have days, like the past few, where other things have overtaken the narrative of what the community is doing. this is always a challenge. they need to tease out information while also staying true to their fact finding mission. >> absolutely. ali vitali, thank you for being
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there. a new day of outrage on one side and celebration on the other following the supreme court position overturning roe v. wade. next, we will take you to taste affected by the ruling. you are watching a special saturday and mission of andrea mitchell reports. this is msnbc. is is msnbc. and our ancestors had ambition. born in 1847, formally enslaved, started buying land, was in the house of representatives. we didn't know our family was part of black reconstruction. exactly. okay, seriously. finding out this family history, these things become anchors for your soul. i recommend nature made vitamins because i trust their quality. they were the first to be verified by usp... ...an independent organization that sets strict quality and purity standards. nature made. the number one pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand.
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coverage of the reaction to the supreme court ruling of overturning roe v. wade. we want to go now to tennessee where an abortion ban triggered goes into effect in 20 days. the state attorney general wants to speed it up. let's mclaughlin is joining me now outside the clinic in memphis. liz, what are they up to their to shorten the timeframe? >> andrea, we are outside a clinic in memphis on popular avenue. it is called choices. it serves on underserved community here. most of the women that they
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treat our uninsured and women of color. this will disproportionately affect this group. in 20, days a total ban on abortion is going to go into place. that goes from the start of fertilization with no exception for rape, incest, between general harper. it is trying to get a six-week ban to go in effect sooner. it could happen as soon as monday. it is likely within the next week. now, currently, as it stands, there are already some barriers around abortion. there are requirements for counseling. it includes information that deters women from getting an abortion. and a feet 48 hour waiting period. noted, there is no period of waiting to purchase a firearm in tennessee but requires two appointments for women. this means that they have to get childcare for two days, all that kind of stuff. this clinic, choices, says that they received demands from other states like texas, oklahoma, that said two years ago was one week. now it is more like three weeks.
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the demand is only expected to increase. they are starting at across the border in illinois to start sending patients to. there is a concern that it will not be able to serve everyone that needs it. let's let's sent to jennifer pepper the ceo of choices. this is what she had to say. >> we are prepping patients with the reality that they may not be able to be seen. we are trying to work with them to identify other clinics that they can go to. it is really -- i choices, we have always said take everybody and we will figure out how to serve them. we are not able to say that. now this thing is happening and now we have to figure out how to get our patient served at other places. >> that clinic in carbondale, illinois, is expected to open in august. women who cannot get an abortion in tennessee will have to go to green is false, illinois, which is four hours of driving. in public transit is nine hours. it is more than nine hours to
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get there which includes two trains and three buses. it is not realistic for many folks seeking abortion. >> no, hardly. they are making it very difficult. thank you so much, liz. now we go to stephanie stanton in austin, texas, one of the states with the trigger law. stephanie, how are people reacting their? who is going to affect? >> andrea, texas, as you said, is one of about a dozen red states that have the trigger laws. here in texas it is going to be a little bit of time before they can take effect. the texas trigger law goes into effect or 30 days after the supreme court enters its official judgment. right now, it is just an opinion. that judgment we will be implemented and that the trigger law clock starts ticking. protests here at the state capital have been ongoing. last night, thousands marched on the capitol. there is another rally scheduled for 5:00 this
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evening. there is another pro-choice rally tomorrow. we have a government hole -- we have a very small life rally here. we have supporters with signs. they gave opinions on the recent supreme court ruling. we got some reaction from the crowd. as you might imagine, the reaction remains heavily divided. reacti>> of course i support the overturning of over v wade. i acknowledge that many women are scared right now. >> i am shocked and amazed that we are taking so many steps backwards right now. i am in fear for every woman in this country. >> again, the protests continue here in the state of texas. there is a protest at 5 pm local time this evening and again tomorrow in downtown austin. the -- he is siding with those on the
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side of pro-choice, andrea. >> thank, you stephanie stand-in in austin. the iconic shot of the texas capital. how life changes overnight, for those who live in the trigger long law states like texas, mississippi, alabama. why those who perform abortions in louisiana can now be facing prison time. you are watching andrea mitchell reports. this is msnbc. is msnbc. ly. and in it. mostly. here to meet those high standards is the walgreens health and wellness brand. over 2000 high quality products. rigorously tested by us. real world tested by you. and delivered to your door in as little as one hour. when alaska airlines needed a partner for the complex an operations of travel -r they made the switch to t-mobile. our 5g has alaska airlines and their customers covered,
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abortion in the state is a criminal act. a trigger law that went into effect once a roe v. wade was overturned immediately. in addition to banning most abortions of for rape, or incest victims. the lines the law signed earlier this week also makes the doctors who perform abortions a subject to a prison terms of up to ten years. joining me now is the louisiana state representative mandy landry. representative landry, thank
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you for being here. as an attorney, you represented one of louisiana's last three abortion clinics. you still represent the women in need of procedures. what is the situation now? do women in your state now have to go out of state? are there any options? >> yes, so, at the louisiana department of health sent notices to the last three clinics that the law was kicking in, our trigger law was killing him. they would have to close. the concern is immediate that it women who were lined up to receive the abortion pill and have a certified abortion could fly out of state. our larger concern is legal personhood and what that will mean from a criminal aspect. >> what options do they have? would help do they have? are you represented these providers. is the concern about this aspect, that doctors will be criminally subject to criminal prosecution and imprisonment.
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is that an added threat level? >> absolutely, physicians are scared about this. they could face ten years in prison or 200,000 dollar fine. what we are concerned about is when there is a life of the mother situation, or a futile pregnancy. they will hesitate. they will withhold care. the result will be in depth or extreme harm who -- for the person who is pregnant. we also concern for when happen to have someone in texas where a woman who had an abortion in texas was arrested. we are worried about that. here -- we are very concerned that for women it especially black and brown women will be disproportionately targeted when they go to an er and end up in jail. louisiana has the incarceration capital of the world. these concerns are very valid. >> what about the medicated
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abortion, the morning after pill? is that legal in louisiana? any type of abortion is illegal here. this year, one of our female senators passed a bill that would make prescription of the abortion pill through telehealth illegal. i do not know if that is constitutional. i'm not sure how when the state can prohibit their residents from buying a product from another state. louisiana is trying to do that. they are trying to close every avenue to abortion for women in the state that they possibly can. we also have a constitutional amendment that says that there is no right to abortion. as many of you know, louisiana has been ground zero for this fight for a long time. we have a more abortion restrictions than any state in the country. we are so concerned now about women's who are going to be arrested for just taking care of themselves. >> there are so many potential complications to that, moral, medical, physical, emotional.
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thank you very much, attorney mandy landry from louisiana. we will obviously be staying in touch. that will do it for me on this saturday edition of andrea mitchell reports. thank you for being with us. i will see you again on monday at noon. up next is yasmin vossoughian who continues our live coverage on the supreme court, right here, on msnbc. hy. we exercise. i noticed i wasn't as sharp as i used to be. my wife introduced me to prevagen and so i said "yeah, i'll try it out." i noticed that i felt sharper, i felt like i was able to respond to things quicker. and i thought, yeah, it works for me. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. it's still the eat fresh refresh, and subway's refreshing everything, like the baja steak and jack. piled high with tender shaved steak, topped with delicious pepper jack cheese, and kicking it up a notch with smoky- baja chipotle sauce?
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what a day. when the last couple of days. a moment really in american history. i'm yasmin vossoughian coming alive from outside the supreme court where it is all happening at the epicenter of the political world. we are changing america forever with one ruling that overturned roe v. wade. the response is immediate. it is angry among abortion rights advocates. they are protesting here in front of the court and around the country, really. this is over a decision that immediately made this to separate america's. one where abortion is safe, at one word as a legal, and one where it is now banned or will be very shortly. we talk to one protester a short time ago. >> i am a 51 year old grandmother. i have three daughters. i have seven granddaughters. i have been an advocate for over 20 plus years for sexual assault and domestic violence. i retired from being the

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