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right now, abortion rights supporters are contemplating next steps at the last week's pivotal supreme court ruling overturning roe v. wade. the ripple effects of that decision extending beyond americas streets. still filled with abortion rights supporters and opponents for the third day straight. as demand for abortion drugs skyrocket -- over fears, the fear they will lose soon to find drugs accessible to millions of americans. providers stopped newly go regime, putting many in immediate ranger -- danger. as several companies pledged

resources and support to workers who may now have to travel to a dwindling number of states where abortion is still legal. of course, the dominoes have already fallen in at least nine states. they have already banned abortions since friday's ruling. while others are just waiting for their aunts to take effect. america, we may, by rose reversal, that's politicsnation tonight. plus, another round of congressional hearings on january six approaches after the nation eyes with turn back to donald trump's pressure campaign on george's secretary of state to overturn his 2020 election results. i talked to the democratic candidate running to take the job about protecting voters of color from suppression and the big lie.

ahead of november midterms. but first, joining me now, congresswoman karen bass, democrat of california, currently running for mayor of los angeles. congresswoman, let me start as abortion rights supporters. they came out to the response of the ruling of overturning roe. some had advocacy groups. they're concerned that this was the beginning of a rollback on privacy rights overall. citing justice clans thompson's comments suggesting that same sex marriage and contraception should be, quote, reconsidered as the court, by the court, as -- positions they can go for. as you, as the potentially the next mayor, one of the nation's largest cities, how are you

preparing strategically for more court decisions that may impact your constituents? >> well, you know, i'm deeply concerned about clarence thomas's statements. but just the whole way that this court seems to be ready to implement a republican agenda, never seen it as some part of -- i think we need to be concerned. we need to be concerned about board of -- brown versus board of education. we don't know how far this court is going to go. unfortunately -- i'm fortunate that i'm in california where we are doing the exact opposite. we are prepared for a ballot initiative to enshrine a woman's right to choose within our state constitution and backing it up with funding, so women from other states can come here. i do think that we cannot take anything for granted, even in the liberal state of california. this is an opportunity for us to really scale up our organizing and education of the public on how central the courts are.

you know, we have a lot of times where democrats have not really paid a lot of attention to the judiciary and clearly, the right-wing has decided that that's the way they're going to consolidate their power in the future, which is taking over the judiciary. >> and a lot of times, i think we forget that we must really get on the ground and organized, including around judicial issues. you and i have worked together on many of these throughout the years, but we've not seen everybody as focused. congresswoman, in addition to the roe decision, there was last week's other big news story from the hill. the senate's bipartisan gun bill signed into law yesterday by president biden after passing in the house the day before. you voted in favor. what does it do for public safety in your city, in your district? >> well, again, in los angeles and california, we have very tough laws.

so if it reinforces what we've already done, but i do think we need so much more in terms of gun control, and how ironic is it? the same day that we were dealing with this issue in congress, the supreme court essentially just opens the door even more for more guns, for people to actually carry guns, or you don't need to have permits for concealed weapons. so one day the court will declare they are, quote, unquote, pro-life, and then it'll do something that compromises -- on the heels of the mass shootings that we have almost on a daily basis. >> congresswoman, the police reform efforts spearheaded by you and senators corner brook and tim scott in the aftermath of george floyd's murder failed to move forward last year, now you are running to preside over a city where crime and public

safety have emerged as dominant issues in november's election. given the failure to secure police reform at the federal level, what -- you came out leading in the numbers with the most votes, but you had the runoff, what will you do as mayor to deal with police reform and public safety at the same time? >> well, absolutely. the two are not mutually exclusive, as we very well know. as a matter of fact, to the extent that your police department is accountable and transparent, i believe that increases public safety, especially in certain communities that have historically had negative relationships with police departments. and so, when of the things that we have to do here is we really have to deal with the accountability. a few years ago, a ballot initiative was passed that i think actually undermines accountability. it is a citizen's commission, ironically, but when an officer

needs to be disciplined, the chief of police can even call for termination, and the citizen commission, with their track record has been over the last few years as they basically do not move officers accountable little. that's one of the first things that needs to be looked at. but you know, because i believe that we should invest tremendous resources in prevention and proven crime prevention, violence reduction strategies, that is where i want to put a very large focus and a lot of that went dormant during the time of the pandemic, which i believe was one of the contributed factors to an increase in crime in the los angeles area. double down, triple down on prevention and intervention. >> congresswoman, before we lose you, i've not heard much from conservatives cheering the roe decision about increased resources for state foster care systems, and i know you recently took dozens of former foster youth to visit capitol hill.

my understanding being that they will be shadowing congressional lawmakers, sharing their experiences. is it a stretch to assume that these visits have taken on an added dimension in the aftermath of the courts of decision on roe? >> well, yes, absolutely. you are talking about our most vulnerable population. children and the child welfare system. this is a tradition we have been doing for the last ten years. for what we work with with the young people, is that we tell them how to strategically tell their life story in a way that educates lawmakers, and we've been able to make significant changes in the foster care system. legislative changes. when our city, one of the issues we are dealing with is the fact that we have 50,000 people a night who are sleeping on our streets. who are homeless. children and the child welfare system is a whole category of people who are sleeping on our streets. when they turn 18 or 21, we

just cut them off. of course, after a few months, they wind up unhoused. what we do in congress's work to change the system, so that they don't fall into homelessness and the first place. that is how we work with the young people, and we've been able to make significant legislative changes over the years. >> all right. thank you, congresswoman karen bass. joining me now is georgia state representative, bill nguyn, who is also running for secretary of state in georgia. thank you for joining me, state representative knew in, let me ask you this, and again, thank you for joining us tonight. two decisions from the court wide ranging implications for the nation. and i know, i would imagine at least that there certainly are wide ranging impacts of your state. first, being of course rolls

reversal, affecting thousands of women, specifically those of color in your state of georgia, where 65% of reported abortions in 2019 were obtained by black women. according to the centers for disease control. you have also now a court decision overturning new york's hand gun law. of course, you're republican governor brian kemp signed the law allowing concealed carry of handguns without a state weapons permit. as an aspiring secretary of state, how do you pushback once in office? >> thank you, reverend, for having me on your show today. i think those are two critically important issues in georgia. in the state of georgia, now that roe v. wade is overturned, we already state that is poised to outlaw abortion. we've got a six-week abortion ban that passed in 2019. we don't have a trigger law, so that means it will go through

the court system and we will likely see in the next few months that lock being upheld and books. we are a state where black women have the highest mother mortality rate in the nation where they are 3 to 4 times likely to die from childbirth, more than their counterparts. -- half of them don't have obedience. the governor has refused to extend medicaid to half 1 million women without health insurance. this will have real implications on the state of georgia. that means more people will die. that means more black and brown women will die, and more poor women will die. it's critically important to understand how this is critically enacted -- connected and interconnected to protecting the right to vote. that will be our one weapon that we can use to elect people who represent our values. to elect someone like stacey abrams who would automatically expand medicaid if she were elected to the gubernatorial race. that means putting into place a legislature that can block further restrictions when it

comes to abortion rights. >> representative, just about all of the candidates endorsed by donald trump have lost in your state's recent primary. most notably, perhaps being former senator david perdue, nearly 40 point loss despite trump's support. do you think the former presidents attempt to manipute the 2020 election results in your state illustrated in last week's congressional hearing on january 6th, played a role in the losses with your states republican voters? >> we saw in 2020 that georgians rejected the former president. we saw in 2021 that georgians rejected the two candidates that were endorsed by the former president. we see that in a state like georgia where we are battleground states and the margins are so close. the people did speak. the people said we reject that kind of radicalism. where we need to do our jobs as democrats is to remind the

people in the state of georgia that our current governor is a conservative governor who also supports the ban to abortion, who went to legislative session last year and expanded the right to carry fire arms, even in the wake of the mass shootings with three bills that can expand access and legislature that is continued to chump away at our voting rights. our jobs is to remind georgians that with these candidates in georgia who are serving currently, they may not have been endorsed by trump, but they certainly support him and they certainly support parts of his agenda. >> representative, briefly, we are out of time, but again, congratulations on your winning era democratic primary runoff. you have to face know the city secretary of state brad raffensperger in november. doing so, the first asian a woman -- named asian american woman to

be elected in georgia. why has georgia emerged and such a battleground state in your opinion? >> georgia is a place that is home to the civil rights movement. we have a very powerful organizing infrastructure of georgians who have remained on the ground. when national media was not paying attention to, as we were doing the work here in georgia and our organizers have remained in georgia. we know that we have faced uphill battles in the state of georgia, but also in a place like georgia, we are home to powerful civil rights leaders who have required and empowered us -- we are a battleground state. in a minority population, and the people in the state of georgia want something different. we have shown that in 2020. we shall not in 2021, and we will show that in 2022. >> all right, thank you bee nguyen, thank you. this week, the supreme court

opted to take the power to control their bodies for millions of women. today, i will explain how we can begin to fight for some of that power back. later, a critical call. g7 leaders just made at their annual summit and how it might impact american voters come mid term. but first, my colleague, richard louis for today's other top news stories. richard? >> we have a good sunday. some of the stories are -- falling missiles hitting ukraine's capital for the first time in weeks. presidents ellen's key saying the war becoming tough to handle emotionally. the uk ministry of defence says russia has now moved significantly closer to full control of the donbas area with a likely capture of a key city there, and an off duty cop on rhode island, police and officer state senate candidate was arrested and charged after this scene of his alleged assault against democratic candidate, jennifer ward. she posted this video on

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important to congress and for congress to pass meaningful legislation to combat the epidemic that is gun violence. not just new york or throughout this nation. the supreme court's decision of overturning roe versus wade is a blatant attempt to bring us back to the dark ages. it will disproportionately impact black women and poor women. it will only lead to unsafe, clandestine abortions to force women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. this must be resisted aggressively. states must not -- must enact laws to protect women. i'm not just saying this is a civil rights leader as president -- i'm saying this as a loyal, concerned citizen. of this great country. you know the ability to stay involved for so many years and

social action stems from hope. the hope that things could be better. yes, moments like this we can break -- they show us nothing is taken for granted. that evening it in a struggle we want an achievement that is already hours, can be instantly taken away from us. this is a moment that raises the concern. will the struggle continue forever? the last few days i've been hearing one simple question. reverend al, what can we do? my answer is do something. do anything. don't not do. you can be angry, sad, annoyed or upset, but remember, those eight -- in favor of these rulings don't care if you are upset. in fact, they may be happy that you are. what they don't want you to do is mobilize, and so find one

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goldberg. michelle, even before this week's supreme court decision to overturn roe v. wade, in one of your very well repent op-eds, you point out that yes, most americans believe abortion should be legal. and a recent poll showed that pro-choice sentiment is at a near record high. yet, you say, after four years of donald trump, more than two years of a pandemic and an unending right-wing onslaught, a lot of people with feminine sympathies are numb and exhausted. please explain? >> i think it's possible that this can change in the aftermath of this rolling. i can tell it hit a lot of people hard, even though everybody knew it was coming. -- i think you saw this after the decision was leak. there were people in the streets, but not in any way near the people that were on the streets after donald trump

was elected. or after george floyd was killed. and when i talk to people, when i heard, was both there was a tremendous amount of burnout. a lot of the major reproductive rights organizations have been in disarray. and racked by staff turmoil. and among some younger women, there is a real disaffection with feminism after a few years. in which feminism was really vibrant and cool for, or a lack of a better word. >> with these -- abortions and gun decisions. what i was asking you before we had a hiccup is, what is justice can congee brown jackson walking into when she joins the bench -- what impact can she have, if any? >> she still will be one of nine supreme court justices. but she will be one of three liberal justices. and you see in all of the

liberal -- going forward, it will be exclusively female. which is quite a shift, historically. and it's historic in its own right. but, right now, there's so much of a republican overload on the supreme court. it's going to be difficult for the liberal justices to push their opinions forward. >> staying with you, elise, president biden signed the bipartisan gun safety bill that passed both houses of congress this week. i want to ask you, what do you say to those who say this is too little? but first, i will tell you my take. i certainly think we need to ban all military style assault weapons. i certainly think we should have background checks for everyone. but i also think that you have to start somewhere. this is a basement, not the roof. -- to build a house for gun

reform. what do you say, elise? >> rev, i was actually so interested to come on and hear your take. as someone who has worked for this legislation for so many years. and, it might disappoint a lot of the gun safety advocates who wanted more. they want bigger, they wanted bolder. but at the end of the, day it represents 14 republican senators crossing party lines and saying, there is a problem. it is the most sweeping legislation in 30 years. and while i like to see high capacity magazines bend, which car so much of the killing when a gun is in the classroom. i do believe it's a start of progress. and it's admitting that we have a problem. it's gonna be a longer background check on younger candidates -- i think that's a star. i think the mental health funding is great. not just for this area, but just overall. america needs more capacity to

handle mental health in the country. so i think this has to happen incrementally. but you do have republicans admitting there is a problem. and that's up to the can be built upon going forward. >> it can be a start if we keep pushing. if we just stop here, it becomes a major disappointment. michelle, how do you explain this week we saw the rope court ruled on gun and the supreme court doesn't do second amendment cases very often. and then congress passed major gun legislation. and that too does not happen very often. and both supreme court decisions, both guns and abortion, pretty much against public opinion. >> look, the supreme court is not necessarily supposed to follow public opinion. although these two decisions back to back, i think, underlie the fact that there's a degree to which the supreme court has been an adjunct of this rapidly tightening, rapidly escalating

crisis of minority rule. where you have again and again, presidents who are elected without the popular vote. first, george w. bush and then donald trump, who were able to put people on the supreme court who are going to for the port the -- of the match for unpopular, sectarian vision of what american freedom is supposed to look like on unwilling states. again, i think there's such an irony about how, as many people said, you're safer as a gun in this country then as a -- guns have more rights than women at this point. i think is going to reach a crisis point, the more that you have a supreme court that makes any kinds of progressive legislation impossible. we still have a big environmental case to come. and then poses a very narrow,

christian nationalists agenda on many, many people who do not want to live under it. >> marshall, i know you follow closely the january 6th hearings. in fact, you have wrote that there been so much better than you are expected. there are reports the former president trump is also watching those hearings on tv. and that he is furious that house minority leader kevin mccarthy decided to keep pro trump republicans off the january six committee. and that by not putting anyone on to defend him. was that a bad tactical move on the republican side? >> i think it's pretty clear at this point that it was a catastrophic move. it's not just that there's no one there to defend trump. it's that the entire success of these hearings is that because there are no pro trump republicans on the panel, they have been able to avoid the

really numbing, deadening back and forth drowning on -- a deliberate point missing that usually see in these bipartisan hearings. will you have senators who are -- grandstanding, trying to make a point. but not necessarily trying to get to the proof. truth. instead, this is unfolded like a netflix jockey drama. this is unfolded with such a narrative perception -- and power. enough that i think there aren't enough -- i think they're probably around the edges. >> elise, wrath of time. but briefly, and bc is reporting that president biden and g7 leaders have agreed to import -- agree to an import ban on russian gold. the president is in germany for the annual three-day summit. how much do you think that anything related to foreign affairs, ukraine, china, saudi arabia, iran. how much do you think they will

play in the coming midterms. especially with the economic situation that we are at right now? >> not much, frankly. unless there's something huge that happens in october, -- and october surprise, of sorts. if gas prices continue to rise. and inflation continues, then that is really what is going to matter the most politically to american voters. this upcoming midterm cycle. >> all right, elise jordan and michelle goldberg. thank you both very much. after the break, how community activists are adjusting their midterm tactics in response to the supreme court reversal on roe v. wade. you are watching politics nation. are watching politic nation nation e iphone 13 pro with 5g. that's the one with the amazing camera? yep! every business deserves it... like one's that re-opened!

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country. in reaction to friday's supreme court decision to overturn roe v. wade. consequentially reversing a nearly 50 year old constitutional right warren. joining me now is deval patrick. for former massachusetts governor and current coach of american bridge 24 century and shakir cherry donaldson, executive director of 1000 running strong. thank you both for joining me. >> thank you, reverend al for having me. >> let me go to first. maternal actions just a few months away. democrats are hoping to turn the anger and pain many feel have followed in the reversal of roe into a rallying cry for the a base warning that of other freedoms could also be at stake. this also comes at a time when president biden's approval rating continue to fall for a

fourth straight week. tying at a new low according to a new reuters ipsos poll published last week. you have past experience with campaigns and now through the work in your organization. you also deal with grassroots public engagement. during the time when many are losing faith and democratic leadership. in what ways can people be mobilized to turn out to vote this november? >> reverend, thank you for the question. thank you for having shakir on, who is a terrific representative of the kinds of existing -- close to people in neighborhoods and communities. more of us need to be -- more and more what comes out of the season connected to the lives of most of the rest of us league. the supreme court has just joined, that's another example

from that in particular in this decision. the same was true in gun decision the day before. it's leaving aside the bad lawyer-ing, the bad jurisprudence that comes from alito's decision. it just does not deal with the fact that number one, poor people overwhelmingly black and brown women and their families cannot just hop in the car or hop on a plane or train and go to some place where a women's full medical and health needs can be met and aren't banned by state law. secondly, it is the totally cynical notion to say well, these issues should really be decided by state legislatures when this is the same court that has looked the other way when it comes to the hyper partisan -- vote suppression, perching and other ways in which republicans

in particular engineering the outcome. i think people need to show up and over one of those barriers. they need to make a real stand in this cycle and the next several cycles for this notion that the government really belongs to us. it should reflect the best of us, of all of us, and the best of who we are. and then be showing up, registering and bringing others along to register and vote in november. >> she kia, i want to ask you the same from your perspective as executive director of 1000 women running strong. an organization dedicated organizing around the issue and the issues that impact black women. in what ways can black women be mobilized to turn out this vote this november? >> thank you for the question. it is my pleasure to be here with you tonight, reverend al, as well as you can, governor patrick. since friday, this has really

been a weekend of mourning and acknowledging the huge stakes that have really come into play for this november and beyond this election, but the reality of it is the thousand women strong have been on the ground three 65 every day. talking to voters and particularly [inaudible] about what the stakes are for this election, so [inaudible] since friday we have more in the decision and recognize that the stakes are too high to let up now. plus, and coalition with thousands of other groups are committed to speaking to voters and mobilizing folks for polls. black women particularly as the core, crux and base of the democratic party. it's important not only to show up and show out, but we are a crucial at creating with the future leadership of this country looks, like and policy to be back, systematic

oppression, racism, that we are still seeing. the legacy of this country, and honesty is the legacy of this decision that was made on friday. >> back to you, governor. in the concurring opinion to the supreme court ruling to overturn roe, conservative justice thomas called on the court on friday to overrule a past landmark decision that legalized the right to obtain contraception. right to same sex marriage, and same-sex intimacy. -- overturning roe v. wade will pave the way for other reversals. wet should americans expect out of this court? >> first of all, they shouldn't be surprised at the concurring opinion of justice thomas. it's not just his view. that has been the objective of hard right in the republican party, of the so-called

movement of the republicans for a long time. you noticed he stopped short of calling for the overturning of -- versus virginia, which was the case in the 60s that prohibited states from alone interracial marriage. on the same grounds, by the way, the same constitutional jurisprudence that is the foundation, or was the foundation for roe v. wade. look -- >> i'm glad you said that, because we are not picking on that. it's the same ground that he very clearly is saying one thing here, and avoiding dealing with we had he has been able to have the right to do. >> that's right. i am not picking on him. i am saying that this whole notion that there is invented in the constitution, a fear, if you will, of personal liberty, that there are certain things the government does not and

should not intrude on. when it comes to the most intimate decisions that we make in our lives, that is exactly where governments should not be. if that is not where the constitution stands for, i am not sure when elsa does. here's the point. the decision on friday overturning roe was not whether anybody believes that abortion is right or wrong. that is not it. it's about who gets to decide. and when it comes to personal liberties, right? we don't want any government, federal or state telling us how to make choices in our lives. >> right. >> that is with this decision opened up. that's what we've got to be focused on and as when we come up to november and beyond, for exactly the reasons that shakya said. >> i'm out of time. shakya, we said we'd have you back. we'd love to deal with the people on the ground. governor patrick, thank you.

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man was what we want to see in our community. he excelled at the saint remains high school in the

bronx and went on to even further in the basketball world star with full scholarship at the houston baptist university tomorrow, i will join reverend michael -- pastor first corinthians baptist church to funeral eyes darius. darius had come home. it was father's day. it was juneteenth. he decided to go as many in the neighborhood in harlem to some barbecue social event, some gang related activities -- something broke out that had nothing to do with him and his friend. and nine people were shot and darious died. his mother and mother joined join me yesterday because we wanted to pledge our support

for this family. it is something that keeps happening, and it keeps happening, yes, because we need to deal with the conduct of some of the young people. yes, it keeps happening because we need to deal with things if it turns a gang related, but let's get to the real primary point. ecb access to guns. young people, whether they want to be gangbangers or not, cannot shoot shoot guns they cannot get. and we must stop the distribution of guns. we must stop the accessibility of guns. we must protect the darius leaves of our community. all kids are not gangbangers. but all kids are at risk. in the name of darius lee and others around this country, we've got to stop this. that does it for me. thanks for watching.

i will see you back here next weekend at 5 pm eastern. american voices with alicia menendez. live from the pride marching in downtown in manhattan, might i add. she starts arena. miss newman studio. thank you so much, reverend sharpton. hello, i'm alicia menendez. coming to the village from new york city, home of pride. today across the city and this country, marches celebrating lgbtq rights. and how far the community has come. the writes it has secured, and the uncertain future ahead. safe to say, the pride march here in new york is unlike any other on earth. it is one of the largest pride celebrations in the world. with tens of thousands taking part in the parade. and millions spectator on the sidewalks. on the very streets where the gay liberation movement was first born more than 50 years ago following the stonewall riots in