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deciding on the leagueality of that executive decision? >> right. i mean, i think what's dpra about that is, you know, this is a policy that was implemented by the trump administration and the biden administration doesn't agree with it. we then end up with a decision, you know, from the supreme court or the decision from federal courts that, you know, forcing hand of the biden administration, in other words, you must implement this, and this is a policy that actually involves, you know, getting cooperation from a foreign country. that is mexico. mexico can't just be forced to take back folks from the united states. migrants trying to enter. the result of that is that the u.s. is being, you know, forced to talk to its counterparts in mexico about taking back
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migrants that they don't really want to send back to mexico to begin with. >> complicated, indeed. miriam jordan, thank you for your time. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose. follow the show online. i thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. good morning. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. following the aftershocks of the supreme court's decision to overturn roe v. wade radling the political landscape. thousands of americans on both sides of the issue in red states and blue have been taking to the streets since friday's decision. the majority protesting against the decision. the polls show most americans do oppose it. >> i am in fear for every woman in the country. >> it's painful today. it really hurts.
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you can't believe our country has gone backwards. >> democrats control. they have the majority. if they abolish the filibuster and decide to do something about it, they can. >> new pressure on president biden to take steps to counter the decision, but democratic leaders acknowledge there is very little that they can do, that he can do by executive action or in a 50/50 senate. in moments i will be talking with the president and ceo of planned parenthood. how the fight is shaping up state by state. also this hour, president biden and his g-7 allies are meeting in germany and major focus of course the war on ukraine as vladimir putin flexes his muscles, striking ukraine's capital of kyiv sunday for the first time in weeks. the latest from the region, dig into the latest moves on the battlefield coming up. we start with our team following the impact of the supreme court's major decision on abortion. nbc justice correspondent pete williams joining us. nbc's dasha burns in grand
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rapids, michigan, a key state where there is a key battle over abortion laws. and josh lederman from the white house today. josh, starting with new reporting. white house source telling nshs news to expect relevant agency announcements to stand up for reproductive health care this week, but they do acknowledge they have very limited options. >> reporter: they do, andrea. in fact, the short list of steps that the white house rolled out on friday just hours after the supreme court ruling came out was indicative of how few options they had. the white house announcing last week they were going to move through the justice department to protect the ability from women to travel from one state to another. of course, working with fda and the health and human services department to ensure wide accessibility to abortion medications, including through the mail and telehealth. now a white house official says we should expect additional announcements from the federal agencies as they work to ensure
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continued access to abortion for as many people in the country as possible. we also expect this to be a major public messaging push with administration officials, including vice president harris and others, fanning out this week to local media, to the web and other venues to try to communicate with people about the stakes of this decision, but one of the things that they are tying to do here, anderia, is to broaden the coalition ahead of the election that feels invested in how this situation plays out. and so part of what the white house will be focusing on this week is outreach to the lgbtq community, immigrant communities, other communities that officials in the biden administration have said will be disproportionately disadvantaged by losing access to abortion in some states. now, the president, of course, he is not here in washington. he is over in germany, will be heading to spain as he does a pair of global summits. we expect that president biden, too, to the extent that he can
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will continue to weigh in from overseas where this decision is overshadowing the summit. but as you pointed out from the start. there are limited options for what the add can do. president biden acknowledging he cannot sign an executive order to restore a right that the supreme court just took away. that's why we will also see the president pointing ahead to the elections in november as the time for voters to really make a change with this. >> thanks, josh. pete, many of these states had trigger laws that immediately went into effect, nine or ten, some are delayed effect, and some have these old laws going back to the 1800s and some in michigan, 1931. so how do we see challenges and other laws taking effect in states around the country? >> well, there are some challenges. we know of at least three. one in utah, one in louisiana,
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one in florida. some of them argue that although the supreme court has said that the states can ban abortion under the fed constitution, these lawsuits argue nonetheless abortion is protected under various provisions of state constitutions and louisiana, there is a lawsuit just filed this morning by the center for reproductive rights saying that they want an immediate stay on louisiana's trigger law because they say that it's am bickious about exactly what is banned and what is allowed that it's very unclear because of various conflicting state provisions. so we are going to see that. i am sure we will see some litigation over medication abortion because in a state where abortion is banned, it's illegal for a patient seeking abortion to seek from a doctor or a pharmacist the pills that are necessary to carry out the medication. but what about getting them from another state? that is unclear at this point.
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secondly, what about a state trying to prohibit somebody from traveling to another state to seek an abortion? justice kavanaugh said he didn't think states could do that. what about corporations that want to have benefits to help their employees who want to go to another state, travel to another state to seek an abortion, would that, for example, violate the texas law that allows lawsuits against anybody who aids in an abortion? so lots of questions are opened up by this decision, andrea, and it will be months and months and months while this plays out. >> indeed. if not even years, pete. dasha burns is in minnesota where there is a 1931 law criminalizing abortion. it took effect at the overturning of roe. but there is a court injunction putting it that on hold. a state court injunction. so you spoke to four women who
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voted republican for most of their lives. what is these women tell you? >> you know, this issue is often painted red or blue, black or white, but when you sit down and have conversations with people, it becomes a lot more purple, a lot more gray. and that is what we found with these four women who grew up republican, all consider themselves religious, but have pretty different opinions on this issue. erin and colleen believe abortion should be legal. colleen vehemently so. erin with some caution. she thinks it should be safe and rare and believers outlawing it won't make go away. alysa and tricia believe life begins at conception and believes abortion should illegal, happy with the supreme court decision. there was some overlap. they believe that politicians have not done enough to support women, pregnant women, young mothers. they believe there should be more resources for women giving birth. number two, they disagreed how these decisions are being made. take a listen to some of that
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conversation. >> we should all get a vote and we are not getting a vote when we are using supreme court justices on the national level. on the state level. >> i want people to vote on it and it forces us then to have discussions with each other. >> even if you don't agree with their decision, can give you a lot of empathy. >> reporter: they also do feel like washington is disconnected from reality of woman. they feel like this issue has been politicized and weaponized by those folks on the campaign trail. there is, andrea, a referendum that some folks are trying to get on the ballot in november where folks in michigan could photon this issue and get a say that way. >> and thanks to you. i want to bring in maura barrett at the sport. we have seen the largest protests both sides protesting over the weekend.
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what about today, being a work day. is it less active than over the weekend? >> it's definitely quieter here today, andrea. a handful of people that are here on the other side of the argument, the hundreds of people we saw show up this weekend. huge crowds friday evening into the weekend people in support of abortion rights and were upset with the decision about roe v. wade being overturned. today we see again just a handful of people. i won't walk into the group here because a lot of them do have signs with a lot of graphic imagery around abortions and that's something that is obviously sensitive for a lot of viewers. polling every the weekend showed that a bulk of americans see the overturning of roe v. wade as a step backwards. that's a lot of what i heard in my conversations this weekend. we will hear some of those conversations with people i met. >> i was feeling -- i'm still feeling rage.
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i wanted to cry, but just anger first. but explaining it to my children is the only way to change things. >> concerning. you know, we could have, like, gay marriage taken away because we have this for 50 years and all of a sudden we can't have abortion any more. >> reporter: we met a lot of people that traveled from out of state to protest here. they will be going to their individual statehouses where abortion bans are on the table. a lot of what we heard is frustration. they say, yes, this is going to inspire us to turn out in november like we've heard from democrats and president biden, but they also said, hey, we did vote in to 2020, voted for the democrats and we want them to take action now. the white house talking about expecting announcements from agencies this weekend, that's something that people are looking to hold them accountable on. >> thanks to you. and pete williams, before we let you go, more supreme court decisions as we head towards the
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end of the term today and that conservative majority's impact still being felt. another decision on prayer. >> 6-3 ruling, the supreme court ruled in favor of an assistant football coach in bremerton, washington, who prayed on the 50 yard line after games. the school district said it was concerned that if he it did that, if he kept doing it it would look like the school was endorsing his religious expression and he should find a private place to do it. he said he had a private right to do do that and the supreme court today ruled in his favor. it said that he had a right under both the free expression protection of the constitution and the freedom of religion expression part of the constitution to engage in private religious expression. he was not endorsing the school's views. he was not acting in his official capacity. so it seems limited to the circumstances of this case, andrea, and doesn't open the door to, for example, prayer in the schools or teacher-led prayer in the classroom. but it is, nonetheless, another step in the court third time
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this term that is slightly reduced the wall of separation between church and state and we just got word, we'll get more decisions on wednesday. >> still to come, pete rhythms, thank you. and josh lederman, thanks to all of you. i want to turn to alexis, the president and ceo of planned parenthood. hi. so a lot of new reporting from the white house that they are going to try to do things about medication abortions, interstate travel supporting women. have to travel as much as 1,000 miles. but there are limits and the courts may step in state by state. where are your battles? >> well, look, we are greatly appreciative of the white house and the administration doing as much as they can in every agency to be as creative as possible to get people the care they need and get people to care. we have seen such extreme laws being introduced in states like missouri and louisiana,
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criminalizing not just telemedication abortion but also things like contraception, iuds, perhaps ivf, and that idea you couldn't travel across your own state boundary is just such a bizarre construct. it, obviously, harkens back to slavery. so we are incredibly concerned about what might happen, and to have the white house and the administration thinking about all of the ways to get care to people is so important. >> let's talk about trigger laws that have already made it impossible for women in mississippi. we have seen provider close down in louisiana. the last remaining provider, of course, in mississippi, which was the key to the dobbs case shutting down. some are held up. but at least ten states have already made it illegal. and you have got these old laws that are kicking in, as well. >> yeah. and, look, i mean, clearly we
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lost in the courts on friday, if not before, and we have to have hope in the people, right? that we fight. we will continue to fight state by state through litigation, through some of these trigger laws, through proactive legislation, through ballot initiatives. this is now about direct democracy in each state that is actively trying to overturn our right to abortion in those states. that's essentially when you lose the federal protection of the constitution, you have to fight your way back in state by state, and that is what our intent is, to make sure that no one can stay neutral on this. no politician, no corporation. everyone has to weigh in here because we believe, as you just demonstrated, the majority of people support having access to abortion being the law of the land, certainly the law in their states, and we are going to fight to make that the case. >> and in fact a new npr marist
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poll as well, npr news poll found that 56% of americans oppose the decision. so that support for abortion rights at large now with a lot of gradations when you start going deep into the polls as to what kind of questions. but it is a majority view. with the court now, a super majority on the court now, disregarding the politics because the language in the alito decision does not tip its hat to public opinion or to, you know, precedent. >> well, you know, what's interesting about the polling data is how are these laws that are being introduced in a state going to be enforced? you are criminalizing the process of supporting people getting access to care, corporations, as you heard, having to think about whether
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they can add these benefits and travel policies for their work force. and so when i think about, you know, what i have seen in the data, majority of americans, upwards of 80% of people, don't like the bounty hunter provision, the arresting the patient or provider or people providing care. those are the ways, again, i think lawmakers are going to have to see that not only will people demand to have this right in state, but resist any efforts to criminalize and further invade their privacy around these decisions. what are you going to do in missouri? you have to take a pregnancy test before you leave the state and come back? it's outrageous the ways in which the actual surveillance and criminalization is going to be experienced. of course, we know it will be experienced disproportionately by people who are already living at the margins and that is just unconscionable. >> thank you very much for coming on.
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welcome back. with the midterm elections less than five months away, democrats are hoping the supreme court's decision to overturn abortion could help ignite their base. we are on capitol hill. so, democratic senators were telling me on friday, and in the aftermath of this, like amy klobuchar, in a 50/50 senate they don't see anything short of changing the filibuster, which has been a non-starter with, as you know, joe manchin, to have
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any effect. on this court ruling. what say you? >> there is an enormous amount of anger through the democratic party as a result of this supreme court decision. they do have public opinion on their side, there is broad disapproval of the fact that roe v. wade was overturned. the question what democrats do about it. they are strand inside congress. they have a bill to codify roe v. wade, half the house of representatives, but doesn't have a path through the united states senate. what many democrats are doing or trying to do is channel that anger towards the midterm elections, pleading with voters to show up this fall, elect more democratic candidates and give, you know, create a new united states congress that can codify roe v. wade. there is a new cbs poll that shows a majority of democrats say there are more likely to vote in this midterm election as result of that roe v. wade decision whereas the republicans and independents say the opposite. so this does give democrats an
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issue to rally around, but in the short term there is a different opinion within the democratic party it's not enough to simply say vote harder, that voters will be, you know, not be particularly pleased with the party if they don't though they are willing to fight in the near term to get this done. to that end, there is a letter by several dozen democrats pleading with president biden to marshall the resources of the federal government to act. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez was on "meet the press" talking about this yesterday. >> we have many ideas, we have some ideas coming from senator warren, signed a letter along with 25 other democratic senators asking president biden to explore opening health care clinician on federal lands in red states in order to help people access the health care and abortion services that they need. >> reporter: she also called for expanding access to abortion through the pill. now, president biden has made very clear that his powers are limited in this regard, that he
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is asking voters to send game new congress, one willing to send him a bill to codify roe v. wade which he says he will sign into law. the theory would be democrats would need to hold the house of representatives, and get two more democratic senators who are willing to make changes to the filibuster and pass a codification of roe v. wade. it's a very, very har bar to meet. that's where democrats are in terms of finding any hope in ponce to this ruling. >> thank you very much. still ahead, while president biden is meeting with g-7 allies, russia is striking kyiv for the first time in weeks and has also hit a shopping center. the new appeal from president zelenskyy to those leaders coming up next. rs rs coming up next ♪ you know how i feel ♪ (coughing) ♪ breeze driftin' on by ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪
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weeks. volodymr zelenskyy speaking virtually from kyiv pleading for more weapons. u.s. officials confirming a major advance with a decision to send medium to long range surface missile defense -- excuse me, missile defense system to ukraine, although it would take some training. so it doesn't know when that would actually be in place. ellison in kyiv, tell us what you are learning about this mall attack. that sounds like the most egregious non-military attack so far. >> you think of the timing of this. it's the middle of the day. the videos, the information we are seeing right now, it seems clear to anyone that this is an area where perhaps a lot of people would be gathered potentially at midday, daylight hours like this. we are hearing that at least 1,000 people were inside this shopping center. that's according to ukrainian officials. and right now they say 20 people are injured, two people dead,
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but it's very likely that those numbers will rise because search and rescue efforts are still underway. this is on the heels of whating seeing, missile strikes in kyiv over the weekend. we arrived a few hours after missiles hit a residential area in kyiv ten minutes away from where we are. the first place we saw was an apartment complex with the top stories entirely collapsed. we watched as rescuers pulled pieces of what was left of the missile that flew into the building and tried to help elderly people out. we watched rescuers take a woman from that apartment building directly into an ambulance. we spoke to another man who had his head wrapped in bandage. he said he was too shaken up, in too much pain to talk. he was not far from where another missile landed in the front of a kindergarten. all of those airstrikes happened in the early hours on saturday. for a lot of people, it was what woke them up out of bed. horrifically in that residential apartment building a child, 7
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years old, was taken to the hospital, as was her mother. authorities now say they are father, who was in his late 30s, was killed in the blast. today now this other strike, which appears to also be in a heavily civilian populated area, at least based on what we know right now, unlike the one that took place overnight waking people up, this seems to have tis interrupted an entire day where people were shopping. reports say people inside were kind of just walking around, going about their business as the walls start today collapse. again, rescue efforts underway. right now at least two people are dead, 20 people injured, up to 1,000 believed to be in that building at the time of the strike. search and rescue efforts ongoing. andrea. >> thank you so much. and bringing in retired admiral
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-- and kelly o'donnell traveling with the president at the g7 summit. kelly is joining us from just across the border from germany in austria. let's talk about the weapons that the president is now planning to send. we have u.s. officials confirming this advanced surface-to-air missile defense system as well as more artillery. give us your big picture how this would help at a critical juncture in this grinding war. >> it's hard to think of anything, andrea, more vivid than report we just got on the ground, which might have been stopped if the ukrainians had better surface-to-air missile systems. these come in a variety of different types. yes, it will require some training to get the ukrainians ready to go. but, hey, here is good news. a lot of that training can now be done over the internet. you can hold up the parts, you can show your ukrainian colleagues what to do. we don't have to send troops for these things. or we can bring ukrainians out
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of ukraine, take them to base, nato bases, train them there. so i'm hopeful if the administration pushes hard, and i know they are, these kinds you have defenses could limit the ability of the russians to launch these kinds of war criminal attacks that take out a shopping mall, a kindergarten, a train station. these are unconscionable. we got to get the ukrainians the tools they need to defend themselves even as we are giving them the offensive tools like the artillery you mentioned. >> admiral, would it take a long time to do either training or towing this in from the border or, i mean, perhaps these are asem bld on site. how will to take until they have these things on the ground? >> it will be weeks. but it won't be months and months. so it will have real impact. the more we put into this, the better. and also the president has -- i
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know kelly will talk about it -- to the nato summit tomorrow. the nato allies can also be a part of this effort, and they should be. >> and to that very point, kelly, there you are. you are covering the g-7. for all the nice talk with chancellor scholz today and emanuel macron, frankly, there is concern, certainly from ukraine, that germany and france is not living up to their promises on weapons. can you address that in part? >> reporter: well, one of the concerns that president zelenskyy has said a that he would be willing to do negotiating with russia when they are in a stronger position. and so they need the weapons and really to get into a stronger position against russia as soon as possible. so the u.s. is stepping up in the ways you have been discussing. so wanting to put more pressure on other nations to do so as well. and, obviously, conflicts always
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end with some degree of diplomacy, and that day would come, but zelenskyy is saying it's not now that he would like to see this war wrapped up by the end of the current calendar year and certainly into a winter season he does not believe ukraine alone would have the kind of position it needs against russia. russia's strength would continue to grow as the weather got worse. so zelenskyy is arguing, please give the help now. do it in a unified way. president biden has been very much trying to keep that unity together, and so from g-7 going to nato where you will have 30 countries, not just seven represented, there is a chance to build on that and part of that will be what we expect to be fortifying some of the nato quick response forces as another hedge against russia. the additional military supplies and trying to do some other things financially to try to hobble russia. that has had a mixed result so far. russia did default for the first time in more than 100 years, but
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they have also still been able to finance their war. so they are looking for ways to deal with that. it gets complicated because many in europe rely on russian energy and trying to look for ways to deal with that. you have other countries like india and so forth that still buy russian energy. and so these leaders are looking for a way to put a price cap on russian oil. that is something they are talking about. it's not finalized. is that an idea that could actually work without seeing more inflation of energy prices? so these are complex issues, and it's not an easy set of facts that they are dealing with, and zelenskyy raised the issue of the fatigue over war. months and months now of war, for many who believed a russian assault on ukraine would be a much shorter enterprise. this has been a very long slog, and the g-7 is saying they are in as long as it takes. there are unity, but there are
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differing views within that umbrella of unity. >> different levels of reliance on russian energy despite oil. they are still taking the natural gas, of course. thanks to both of you. and for the first time in weeks, new video has emerged today from russia of american basketball superstar brittney griner. the 31-year-old in handcuffs as she walks to a courtroom. she has been detained in russia over four months. after being arrested at moscow airport for allegedly possessing vape cartridges with cannabis oil. her trial is set to begin in moscow this friday. and breaking news. the u.s. and iran agree to resume indirect talks in doha, qatar, this year. the first of any progress after months of stalled attempts to
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revival the nuclear accord. it's been suspended, have been suspended in march. last spring -- this past spring over iran's demands that the revolutionary garden removed from the list of foreign terrorist organizations. that designation made by president trump. and president biden signing into law the most significant gun measure to clear congress in three decades. stay with us. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. e waa e waa mitchell reports" on msnbc it's lit! don't miss red lobster's seafood summerfest. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blo discover is accepted at 99% of places in the u.s. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish]
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over shadowed by the historic supreme court decisions overturning roe and that new gun legislation. president biden though did sign that law into the most sweeping bill designed to prevent gun violence in nearly 30 years. it came two days after the supreme court voted to expand gun rights. julie is on capitol hill covering it all. so you had the supreme court decision on thursday basically saying that states don't have the right to restrict as new york state did, to restrict open carrying of handguns, and then the next day saying that the states that the decision on abortion should go to the states. so it does seem to be in contradiction, julie. >> yeah, that's right. and this legislation that president biden signed into law on saturday 48 hours before the
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supreme court ruled on that conceal carry decision based on a new york law that prohibited residents from open carrying in public, excuse me, firearms outside of their house. i spoke to senator gillibrand after that decision. she called the supreme court an activist court. you see on the screen some of what this bipartisan legislation actually does, including closing the boyfriend loophole, which prevents domestic abusers from obtaining firearms, incentivizes states to implement red flag laws and enhances background checks for juveniles 18 to 21. when democrats look at what else they can do in the face of the supreme court ruling on the conceal carry weapon state law in new york, democrats have an uphill battle. it took three decades for congress to get together and do something like you saw on the screen, which, obviously, is no
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small feat. i want to remind the viewers, the nra fiercely opposes bipartisan legislation. it got 15 republican senators to vote for it, 14 republicans in the house. of course, that includes minority leader mcconnell -- >> thank you. and up next, how local officials in red states are fighting to try to protect abortion rights in their communities. abortion s in their communities moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day, that's effective without topical steroids. many taking rinvoq
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right now local democratic officials around the country are trying to carve out areas where abortion may remain legal where the state is ruling it illegal. and of course the supreme court in seattle a councilmember wants to make it an abortion rights sanctuary. it includes a budget amendment that would make abortion free for anyone from states that have anti-abortion laws and for all seattle residents. in louisiana orleans parish district attorney jayson williams announcing his office will not be investigating or pursuing charges against women or doctors involved in abortion procedures. the only abortion clinic in new orleans has now closed. and in texas home to trigger law that includes the harshest
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criminal penalties on abortion, a austin city councilmember proposing a resolution to direct the police department to make criminal enforcement, arrests and investigation of abortions its lowest priority and to restrict city funds and city staff from being used to investigate, catalog or report suspected abortions. investigation of abortion its lowest priority and restrict city staff and funds from being used. i want to bring in that city council member as well as the orleans parrish district attorney. councilman, you're holding a special city council meeting on abortion called the grace act on july 18th within 30 days of texas's trigger law. explain your legal options here. >> our legal options are limited. we are bound by texas law and texas law, sadly, has now
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criminalized abortion. but we do control our own police department. we control our city resources. so within that, we are directing our city to make it the lowest level priority. we want the police focusing on sexual assaults and robberies, burglaries, those types of crimes. we put abortion crime at the bottom of the list. we don't want task forces or special investigation units for abortion created, nothing like that. we're doing everything we can within the limited powers that we have. >> do you expect the attorney general and the state to come after you and try to stop you from this enforcement decision? >> he has a habit of doing that and austin has had a difficult relationship with the texas legislature. but there are a number of other cities in texas that are
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considering a similar approach and there are a number of district attorneys that are also very uncomfortable with prosecuting alleged abortion crimes. we're trying to craft it in such a way that it is legal within state law. they're going to do what they're going to do, but there is urgency because texas also has pre-roe abortion laws that are still on the books. our attorney general is saying those are valid now. so abortion could technically be a crime right now even before the trigger law takes into effect. we're in a very murky area but that is what our attorney general is saying. >> to say nothing of this infamous texas civil law which people refer to as the bounty law and such, which until now at least was held up pending these
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decisions. so d.a. williams, in new orleans, abortion is banned in your state. is your reasoning that this decision about not prosecuting abortion, you said in part, it would not be wise to shift our priority from tackling senseless violence happening to our city to investigating the choices women make with regard to their own bodies. how much control will you have over those prosecutions? >> d.a.'s have broad discretion about what charges they bring and don't bring. this office will not shift its priorities in order to prosecute mothers who seek abortions or doctors who perform those. if you think about it, it's going to lead to loss of life for countless women. despite the deeply flawed logic, there's very little
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infrastructure in place or being put in place to enforce this or police this or prosecute this, very similar to what they did when they put women and children in cages because of immigration status. there was no new resources or protocol for immigration courts to handle those cases. the same thing is happening now. so despite the court's decision, this office will continue to come forward with tougher abortion laws? >> right. the governor and unfortunately legislature were working even prior to the supreme court deciding to overturn 50 years of roe. they were already putting things in place to make it illegal. the only abortion clinic in my city closed over the weekend. this is a giant step backwards.
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but we have to make sure -- and i applaud the council member for his courage and creativity, because cities have to decide how they're going to use their resources. depending on how resources are used at the state level and municipal level will dictate how this impacts the women of our cities and states. >> that wraps up this hour. next, i'll be joined by michigan's attorney general on how the fight around abortion rights is now moving to michigan and other states. stay with us. o michigan and other states and other states stay wh itus ♪ breeze driftin' on by... ♪ if you've been playing down your copd,... ♪ it's a new dawn, it's a new day,... ♪ ...it's time to mstand. start a new day with trelegy. ♪...and i'm feelin' good. ♪ no once-daily copd medicine...
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protests across the country, throughout the weekend both supporters and opponents of abortion rights taking to the streets, in some cases after the supreme court tossed aside a half century of precedent that abortion with some restrictions was legal. right now at least ten states restrict abortion access if not ban the procedure all together. with arizona, west virginia and wisconsin shutting down abortion services, but the laws there still unclear. 16 states and washington, d.c. have laws protecting the right to an abortion, leaving 21 states where the legislative battles over the issue will rage throughout the year heading towards the midterms. turning to germany where president biden is meeting with the g7 partners including president zelenskyy from kyiv which featured new bombings over the weekend and an attack on a shopping center earlier today. u.s. officials are planning to supply a new surfa
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