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good morning, everyone. i'm chris jansing in new york city. we start with the extraordinary anticipation for today's january 6th hearing, now just two hours away, with huge stakes for the committee and the former administration. we now know that the star witness will be cassidy hutchison. unless you followed every move of the committee, you're unlikely to have heard of her. up known to most americans as recently as yesterday, she's the
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former aide to then trump chief of staff mark meadows. a surprise witness at a surprise hearing that was only announce 2 wood 2 hours ago. so why is she such a big deal? as politico said, she knows a lot. what she heard and who she personally saw coming and going, all add to her value. as she told the committee in march, she had "insight into essentially all of trump's meetings." in multiple depositions, she leveled explosive allegations against trump, mark meadows, and republican lawmakers. now, we saw her on tape in the last hearing, naming names about who was seeking presidential pardons. s seeking presidential pardons.
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>> we also know that the testimony you just heard revealed only five days ago, has prompted concerns about her safety and security. here's a look at washington post said earlier. >> in the last hearing, she did reveal that margorie taylor greene, she had heard that margorie taylor greene asked the white house counsel's office for a pardon. you can only imagine what that does in terms of elevating her name and potentially causing far-right extremists to levy some of these credible threats that have come her way. >> but the pardon allegations against republican lawmakers are just a piece of what hutchison has revealed. for example, she testified that mark meadows was warned about potential violence on january 6th. that white house counsel told trump's team their plan to use alternate electors was not legally sound that. she witnessed meadows burning
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documents after a meeting with republican congressman scott perry. and she reportedly confirmed that trump told meadows he agreed with rioters who were chanting "hang mike pence." what we don't know is what more hutchison might say today or why the committee is rushing to put her out publicly other than perhaps the security concerns. we also don't know if this has anything to do with a series of grand jury subpoenas delivered last wednesday to multiple people involved in a scheme to appoint alternate electors. that was the same day that officials searched the home of jeffrey clark and seized john eastman's cell phone, all leading to the provocative question -- does she have a smoking gun? as watergate star witness john dean tweeted, better be a big deal. lots to cover. i want to bring in my guests now.
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okay. let me start with you, nicholas. what are the chances that she has a smoking gun? have you learned anything more in the last few hours about what might be different about today? >> well, the committee has kept us guessing about why they called this hearing, and somewhat exactly we're going to hear from cassidy today. the thing is, this an investigative body that has made these bombshell allegations and revelations so far in previous testimony, and when they made these, we know that they have so far shown they have the goods to back that up. for example, we've seen republican lawmakers push back rather forcefully against this testimony that they had asked for pardons. this is perhaps something that we can expect to hear from
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hutchison today. for her to be asked by committee members exactly what she heard about these pardons. and we can see other evidence that the committee lays out. besides her testimony to back up everything that they have learned so far. >> elly, one things that stands out about hutchison is she's quite young, but she rose through the ranks within the trump white house very fast. she was in the room for tons and tons of these critical meetings. what might she bring to the table that other witnesses don't? >> chris, that's sort of the story of staffing in the trump white house. many of the people on the campaign in 2016 left the white house, and it left the space for younger staffers to climb quickly through the ranks. this is someone cassidy hutchison who was in the room or briefed on key meetings, because of her proximity to the then chief of staff mark meadows. we know that meadows is not cooperating with this committee, despite the committee's best efforts. that's all tied up in court.
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having hutchison come before the committee, we know that she's testified with them. but it does provide them the insight that they would have otherwise gotten from meadows. and quite frankly, she doesn't necessarily have the ties that bind meadows to people like donald trump and others in the highest echelons of the trump orbit. this is someone who, in a lot of these meetings, maybe because she was a lower level staffer, people may not have been paying attention, but she was privy to, and reaching out to and enacting the strategy of the white house. those are things that we already know. the thing that i'm really looking at is, as the committee has done other fact finding, likes like that documentary footage they got, how and if this testimony from cassidy hutchison works or doesn't in any way that they have gotten from the documentary filmmaker. how those new pieces fit together. >> you make a good point about anybody young and in a room with powerful people knows what it's
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like to feel like wallpaper. so a number of republicans have come out and denied her testimony, or at least said she was mistaken. specifically some of the ones who said she said were seeking pardons. can they just dismiss her as someone who misunderstood what was going on? >> cassidy hutchison seems like she's approaching this in a straightforward manner. she lifted her legal counsel to a former associate of jeff sessions. and she has pursued a strategy that is coming across as honest, and being an honest broker who is responding to the committee, and is participating. and you have to wonder if today is really going to be a big boom, explosion of news or if this is actually a more ruthless con strategy on the part of the
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hearing to keep the hearings in the forefront and drive the knife in during a week when republicans are reeling politically and from the aftermath of overturning of roe v. wade. >> barbara, legally speaking, and correct me if i'm wrong because i'm not a lawyer, there are two critical pieces to proving the crime of obstructing, one, that their actions obstructing the proceeding, and two, that the people involved had corrupt intent. do you think hutchison can provide that evidence? what will you be looking for today? >> i do. it seems like that's where she might be able to deliver the most value here. she said she was treated like a fly on the war, a young person that they ignored. but she was there listening. so some of the things she might be able to say is, number one, he knew that any of these tactics were illegal, that is, the pushing of pence to throw out some of the electors and use the false slate of electors, or
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that trump knew he had lost the election. either of those admissions would be valuable in putting together a case. the grand slam home run would be a connection between trump and the mob, that he was connected and conspired with the mob to attack the capitol. that would be the explosive testimony. >> look, elise, i'm just thinking about what you said, and what she might have and might not have, the downside of today's hearing. what if it doesn't live up to the hype, right? we mentioned john dean. he tweeted this -- this -- >> so i guess that leads to the question, how big is big enough, right? >> you know, i appreciate john dean's sentiment.
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and certainly he knows how a hearing needs to be explosive to have impact. but the news cycle is just so different today. and we're going to see -- just hearing about these congressional members that wanted pardons and to hear that from cassidy hutchison is going to be explosive. and also, i've just been amazed by the committee and how they've been saying there's just so much information coming in. it's just been, you know, a fire hose of new information that they're struggling to process. so you have to wonder if there's something they want to get out there immediately so that they are defining the narrative and not allowing conspiracy theorys perhaps to take root. >> nicholas, what more do we know about the stuff that's been coming in? are there any leaks out of the committee about that? >> the committee has been very tight lipped about what exactly
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may be coming. we've only learned bits and pieces, but this is clearly not part of the whole story. for example, one piece of that being that meadows had bushed painburned papers after meeting with scott perry. >> what she will say will be revealed. but the other question is why now? she did recently change lawyers and is now about to give public system. is that a coincidence, do you think? >> i think that could be something that's going on. her prior lawyer was somebody who was part of the trump world. she now has another lawyer who was mentioned was an ally of jeff sessions. so it may be that she previously declined to talk about certain areas and has now decided to
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become more forthcoming. there are two other possibilities. one is we've seen some operational activities with the justice department recently. the search warrant of jeff clark and john eastman. it would be there is new evidence there that they want explained by cassidy hutchison. the other thing we have heard is that there are perhaps some concerns about her security. perhaps there are members of the public who are the same kind of people who took the bait to storm the capitol january 6th who might want to attack her. perhap there is is some thought they want to lock in her testimony and let her leave to go somewhere she is safe. >> this is all happening after that flurry of activity last wednesday, subpoenas and phone confiscations. what do we know about eastman and clark? and do we have any idea if the subpoenas last week are lining up with what's happening with the committee? >> chris, john eastman was a trump election law year two has been described as the chief architect of a scheme to create
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fake electors and to convince mike pence to halt the congressional vote counting january 6th. we learned last night that agents served him with a search warrant last week while she was coming out of a restaurant in albuquerque, new mexico and seized his phone. that happened on the same day that agents searched the home of jeffrey clark, former justice department lawyer, who was pushing the department to say there was fraud in the election, when they had found none. and those agents seized clark's lekelectronic devices. taken together, chris, this is a big development. these are the first significant potential targets of the justice department's january 6th criminal investigation, who have no direct nexus to the violence that happened at the capitol. experts say most people that are the subject of court ordered searches get charged with crimes. this suggests the criminal
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investigation has expanded significantly. this is a hybrid investigation that involves the justice department inspector general, the fbi and other law enforcement agent sis. clark and eastman were working closely with president trump, but we're a long way away from trump is a criminal target. in my experience, criminal investigators often coordinate at a very basic level with congressional investigations to avoid conflicts and problems. there are a lot of former federal prosecutors working for this january 6th committee, who have contacts in the justice department. >> is that how you see it, barbara, this is a big escalation, what we saw last week? >> i do. i think as ken pointed out that search of jeffrey clark's phone and his electronic devices at his home last week was a real turning point in what we know publicly about the investigation. to date, i think we knew they were publicly charging people who were physically present at the capitol january 6th. but neither clark or eastman
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were present. they were all about the false slates of electors and the plan to get mike pence to throw out electors to steal the election. and so that to me suggests that they are looking well beyond the physical attack to the plot to steal the election. >> so much more to cover. barbara, again, nicholas, thank you all. elise, you're staying with us. all of you stick around, because our special coverage of today's hearing picks up in a little less than an hour. plus, republican candidates tested for the first time in a post roe nation. steve kornacki following today's key primary races from the big board. why he's particularly interested in what's happening in colorado. but first, a tragic scene in texas. now being called the deadliest human smuggling case in modern u.s. history. the moment a bystander knew something was terribly wrong. you're watching "chris jansing reports." g "chris jansing reports.
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new polling suggests that democrats are getting a boost ahead of november's election. a sign, perhaps of voters frustration with the supreme court's abortion ruling. a new poll shows a ten-point swing since april, in voters who want to see democrats control congress in the fall. dems gaining seven points, while republicans lost three. but the question now is whether they can seize the moment. here's democratic national committee chair jaime harrison. >> we have to be more relentless in terms of protecting democracy than the republicans are in
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terms of tearing it down. and that is the charge for the democratic party over the next few weeks and months and the years to come. >> the scotus ruling bringing lawsuits and other legal moves. red states shoring up and expanding restrictions. blue states protecting the right to choose. california now has a constitutional amendment that would secure abortion and contraception rights on its november ballot. so does vermont, the first state to move on that. and anticipating an influx of patients from neighboring states, california, washington, and oregon are launching what they're calling a west coast offense to protect access to abortion and contraception, as well as protect providers and patients. a political divide already being heard on the campaign trail. i want to bring in danielle moody, a democratic strategist, and also back with me, elise jordan. so let's dig into the shift on that generic ballot toward
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democrats. what is your major takeaway? and considering your experience, how did democrats seize the moment? >> i mean, frankly, chris, democrat need to seize this moment, because we're not going to get another bite at this apple, right? what we see right now is that we have a very radicalized supreme court, that does not recognize precedent. and democrats can't just tell people to go and vote. they need to tell us what kind of numbers they need in order to codify roe into law. we knew for the past 50 years that republicans have been organizing in plain sight. so there had to have been a strategy in place to protect women. so we have a handful of months to organize and activate people. it's not just about showing up to the polls but where we need people at the state, local, and federal level. >> on the other side of the coin, this could be tricky for republicans. politico compared it to the dog
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that caught the car. so they got the ruling they wanted, but what did they do with it so as not to offend midterm voters? >> it's such an issue, chris, that it's always driven republican voters, who so many are single issue voters, voting for supreme court justices that they want to be conservative and appointed by a republican president. and to danielle's point, i think you're completely right, that democrats need to be specific about their strategies. there are a number of months before november, and there are going to be some pivotal primaries still, but you have states like pennsylvania where the republican nominee for governor has pledged to completely ban abortion in pennsylvania. that's going to have implications on the senate race too, that might have been a slam dunk for republicans if primary voters didn't go with dr. oz. so you have many races like that
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where democrats have to hold, where they have to gain, and what they're going to do to keep the senate and to have enough of a majority to do something, so that their voters aren't discouraged thinking oh, well, democrats just let this go and they aren't fighting for me right now. >> there's a -- there are 204 candidates that are trying to take a safer road like it's right to keep the decisions with the states. if you're a governor with a strongly republican legislature and they want to sign a bill with no exceptions say for rape and incest, how does that play nationally, that same poll showed 59% of women oppose the court's decision on abortion. 53% of independents. >> it doesn't play well nationally, but does it play well enough to get that candidate through a presidential primary? and getting through that primary
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is going for hard enough. so we're going to see these candidates thread the needle in a way that they're going to try to be aware of the high number of americans who do think that abortion in certain instances, and up to certain weeks of pregnancy, should be allowed, versus republican primary voters, a segment which are absolutists and want no exceptions. >> one thing you're hearing from republicans at every level, whether it's somebody running for state legislature or for president, republicans are saying the economy, the economy, the economy. these other issues that democrats believe play in their favor, including the supreme court ruling, is that enough to drown the noise of the economy? >> i mean, here's the thing. the most important thing that we need to be focused on right now is the collapse of our democracy. the fact that we have a radicalized supreme court. the fact that we no longer have codified laws that protect
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people's rights, that this is the first time that the supreme court has taken away constitutional rights. so while republicans want to play games on the economy, we're in this place because of the trump administration. we're in this place because of covid and the fact that they wanted to vote against relief packages that were going to help us not get into a stagnated place. so we can't allow this to turn into oh, we need to focus on the kitchen table. the issue of family planning, that is an issue about the economy, and forcing women out of the workplace. so that they can't krib89 in the way we need them to. so all of these issues are connected and we need to make that connection for the american people that's the job democrats have come november. >> i want to ask you about the associated press report, that more than a million voters, now, this is pre-roe, have switched to the republicans in 43 states, and they say it's a warning for democrats. r democrats.
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>> so danielle, how do you reach those voters in particular? and do you think a threat to our democracy if you're having trouble paying for food, paying for gas, and we ask this question a lot, but the messaging from the democrats does -- is that going to resonate for the average suburban voter in middle america? >> the average suburban voter in middle america needs to be able to put food on their table, to put medicine in their cabinets, to put gas in their car. they can't do that if they don't have access to a job or they're forced out of the workplace. we saw 2 million women forced out of the workplace during the covid pandemic because they were the primary caregivers for their children.
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and now they're going to be forced to birth them. so, again, this is about having the conversation with the american people and connecting the dots for them. and american voter right now, they want to see the democratic party fight for them in the way that the republicans are fighting to turn back the clock. so we have this opportunity right now to say that they are the party of regression. we are the party of progress. and this is what progress looks like. this is what we will do with the votes that you give us. this is what we will do with the power you give us. so from abortion rights to lbgtq rights and beyond, this is connected to our ability to thrive in this country. not just here but around the world. >> i've got to ask you, you've been involved with grassroots folks. you've got your finger on a lot of folks for a very long time. if we're looking at just these midterms and people are going to the polls today in seven states, is that a message that will resonate or is it always going to be the economy?
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>> maybe this week there would be immediacy with the roe v. wade decision. but it's going to be hard to sustain that drumbeat through november. that's going to be the challenge for democrats when you have inflation, rising gas prices. and when you have a lot of mothers who perhaps that's why they're switching their party registrations after dissatisfaction with how school closures were handled by democrats. so it's going to be tough for democrats to keep up the intensity and they're going to need to show a hunger for the fight. >> thank you both very much. we have a lot more to talk about this hour, including in texas. a tragedy that's being called the worst case of human smuggling in decades. we'll have the details from san antonio, next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. only on.
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in the sweltering 100 degree texas heat. 16 others,iz. the police chief describing them as hot to the touch. the biden administration is now vowing to take action against the smugglers responsible in a case that's quickly becoming heavily political. nbc's morgan chesky has more from san antonio. >> reporter: a sweltering summer day in texas, with temperatures topping 100 degrees, contributing to one of the country's deadliest human smuggling cases in history. >> quite a few of them are already deceased. >> reporter: the tragedy unfolding monday in san antonio. unfolding monday in snoan antono >> reporter: police say a local worker made the terrible discovery, after hearing cries for help. authorities found the abandoned semi truck with doors partially opened. >> we're not supposed to open up
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a truck and see stacks of bodies in there. >> reporter: officials say the likely cause of death, heat stroke. incredibly, others survived, including several children. but they were in an extremely weakened state when they were taken to area hospitals. >> the patients that we saw were hot to the touch. they were suffering from heat stroke, heat exhaustion. no signs of water in the vehicle. it was a refrigerated tractor trailer, but there was no visible working ac unit on that rig. >> this horrific scene echoing a similar tragedy in san antonio, were ten people died back in 2017. this year has seen record numbers of border encounters in the southwest. according to u.s. come toms and border protection. the governor tweeting, these deaths are on biden. they are a result of his deadly open border policies. >> the white house not responding to the comments, but
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reaffirming the statement that the smugglers will be held accountable and that joe biden is monitoring the situation. still to come, this tragedy at the border coming as joe biden's top pick to lead the customs agency is pulling his nomination. he's gone a year without senate confirmation. it's been six years since there's been any director. you have to go back to the obama administration. the harris county texas sheriff pointed to the political gridlock on twitter saying the dysfunction threatens america's heart and soul. in missouri, the second deadly amtrak crash in two days. terrifying moments when the train hit a dump truck and derailed monday. three people inside that train died. it happened about 115 miles northeast of kansas city. the intersection does not have flashing lights or barriers.
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one man described what it was like inside the train when it happened. >> i can't even begin to describe the scene of people that were injured, bleeding, trying to get out of the train. my brain said, this might be when i die. >> another amtrak train did have a fatal collision in brentwood, california on sunday. that killed three people and left two injured. coming up, what is being called one of the most daring terrorist attacks in european history after a rocket attack on a shopping mall. in court right now, jeffrey epstein confidant ghislaine maxwell. will she spend the rest of her life in prison? you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. reports" only on msnbc
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history. that is what president zelenskyy said after a rocket attack on a shopping mall in the central part of ukraine. zelenskyy says about 1,000 people were in the mall at the time of the attack. nbc correspondent ellison barber is live from the site of that missile strike. what's the latest there, and are rescue efforts continuing? >> reporter: they are, but at this point it seems ty have turned more into a recovery mission, an and evidence gathering mission. this is where two missiles reportedly went into this side of the building and the backside yesterday after afternoon. the deputy head of the president's office says at least 20 people have died in this attack. dozens are injured. 26 in one of the biggest hospitals in this area. we just spoke to the head of surgery a couple of hours ago. he said he personally was treating three patients. their hospital had 26. 40 people roughly are still said
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to be missing. look and see what is going on here. rescuers are just diligently going through every bit of debris. they dismantled about 70% of the building right now, looking for evidence, pieces of the missile. the missiles that hit this building collecting all of it to put together. because the general prosecutor of ukraine says she believes what happened here is a war crime. they are going through this bit by bit, looking for any evidence or any remains from those people who are still missing, to give closure to the families that are desperate for answers. the russian federation claims they struck a factory that was housing weapons given to ukraine by the united states and europe. they say once they struck that facility, the weapons inside of it, those then detonated and caused this fire at the shopping senter. but local officials we have spoken to say that there is a factory near here on the other backside of this part of the shopping mall. they say that factory was one
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that worked on construction related to roadways and they are adamant it had nothing to do with the military making any weapons or any cars for the military. they say this area, this strike here, that one as well, were both on civilian objects. listen to what he told us. >> russia's aim is not military. they destroy civilian infrastructure. they kill civilians to make ukrainians be threatened of their power. this is -- this act is a terrorist act against humans. >> reporter: so this part of the shopping center included an electronics department. i told you we spoke to a surgeon a little while ago. he personally operated on three different victims here. he said two were employees who
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worked at different stores in this shopping center. one was a woman who had just came here to get some cash from the atm. >> ellison barber, thank you for your reporting. appreciate that. right now, final sentencing is underway in federal court in new york city for convicted sex trafficker and jeffrey epstein confidant ghislaine maxwell. prosecutors clearly want to send a very big message, asking for 30 to 55 years for the three counts. sex trafficking, conspiracy, and enticing a minor to travel across state lines for the purpose of illegal sex. multiple victims are scheduled to give impact statements, including this woman, annie farmer. this is video of her arriving at court this morning with. the sentencing looming, her attorney said she was placed on suicide watch friday and removed from the general population of the brooklyn jail. i want to bring in a civil rights attorney, former
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prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. look, the hearings started a t the top of the hour, so we have a reporter in the courtroom. while we wait for an update, she could get the maximum 55 years. what factors will be considered? >> whenever a judge looks at sentencing an individual, they look at three main principles. the punitive element, where here there is sex abuse against a child, but with maxwell's role, the enticing, grooming and securing these girls for sex acts. but there's also a rehabilitative and deterrent process. so the judge looks into the sentencing guidelines but also the victim impact statements. how has this crime impacted eye and every one of the victims in this case? in addition, the judge will look at any presentence investigation report so that the judge can see what areas does maxwell need in order to rehabilitate her? and the judge is going to want to impose a sentence that is going to tell other enablers
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like maxwell this misconduct will not be tolerated under our laws. >> let me ask you about nose victim impact statements. seven of them have written to the judge asking that their pain be considered. one writes -- >> in your experience, how much weight, when you look at all those different factors, do these emotional and very real impact statements like these have? >> i think they carry a lot of weight. because the judge can truly see the impact that this crime had on each victim. now, you heard -- you mentioned there's seven impact statements. so generally, the judge will weigh each impact statement very differently. so the victims, where there's a conviction, may be weighed more heavily with regard to the imposition of sentence, than the victims impacted but have uncharged or unconvicted
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offenses. so the judge will take into account those factors with punitive element, rehabilitative element and deterrence but will look at the characteristics of the defendant. so for those victim impact statements uncharged, what types of behavior was seen by maxwell that led to the recruitment, that led togrooming? so the judge will give it substantial weight. >> i've been reading some of the things that maxwell's lawyers have said. one of the things they said she's been a positive influence on other inmates because she offered to teach yoga classes. another inmate wrote a letter saying she volunteered to teach english to help folks get their g.e.d. do arguments like that move a judge at all? >> i don't think they will have a substantial move. this is because of the severity of the offense. of course, any defendant is going to want to act in any and all ways to make the judge say
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hey, this person is truly rehabilitated and they are of great character. one of the main arguments that the defense is trying to set forth is that she's not likely going to do this again. so those are kind of things the judge will see. >> good to see you again. just to let people know, we do have someone in the courtroom. if we get news, we will bring it to you. there is new urgency and new political stakes this primary day. the races we're watching from colorado to new york, as voters head to the polls for the first time since roe was overturned. steve kornacki is here at the big board, after this. after th. when you have technology that's easier to control... that can scale across all your clouds... we got that right? yeah, we got that. it's easier to be an innovator.
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against incumbent democrat michael bennett. steve kornacki joins me now from his big board to break it down. we were speaking in the elevator saying, we have to get to the polls today. in the meantime, what's going on? >> you mentioned it. that colorado republican senate primary, winner gets michael bennett in november. interesting contrast in light of the supreme court ruling. joe o'dea, they think he gives them a chance at beating bennett and carrying the seat. he is running on a pro-choice platform. he has an opponent ron hanks. he is a pro life candidate. he sponsored legislation in the colorado legislature that would ban abortion, including in the cases of rape and incest. you have a steep contrast coming off that supreme court ruling the other day.
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the other x factor, again, that makes this interesting, democrats have been pouring money into an effort to prop up hanks with republican voters. why? because democrats believe hanks would be a beatable candidate in november. o'dea not so much. colorado has been trending blue. if this is the red wave republicans are hoping for, this could be in place. we will watch this tonight closely. the other theme of the day today is there are a number of house incumbents who could lose seats. two who will lose their seats today. that number could get higher. two will lose their seats because in illinois, you have this in the 6th district. casten, in a district with another incumbent, newman. two democrats here. one will lose their seat in this primary tonight. also in illinois, two incumbent republicans, miller endorsed by donald trump, davis, republican
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incumbent, pitted by redistricting in the same district. one of them will lose their seat tonight. two incumbents guaranteed to lose. we could see more than that. in mississippi, we have a runoff. this is how things went in the preliminary in the 3rd district. nobody got 50%. the republican incumbent finished in second place here. why did he run afoul? he voted for the bipartisan january 6 commission. it has become an issue. in a runoff with cassidy. could lose his seat. in the 4th district of mississippi, incumbent, 30% of the vote in the preliminary. very much in danger of losing the runoff. then you mentioned it, we will keep an eye on this. boebert in colorado. trying to beat boebert here. we will see what happens. >> it's interesting, as always. steve kornacki, thank you so much. in non-political news,
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